Hopen for somethin' bad. Hopen for somethin' bad. Hopen for somethin' bad.

Our good immigration department is going to send them all straight back, right?

The Tamil Tigers tested Canadian resolve during their demonstrations in Ottawa and Tehranto when they shut down main roads using women and children "mourning" about what was happening to the rebels back home. They and the Taliban now know what cowards our authorities are when it comes to enforcing laws against non-European "citizens". This established that we are not all equal under the law and will use it to their advantage.

in the words of one of Canada's best bands (the forgotten rebels) "Bomb the boats, feed the fish".

Can we accept the legitimate (i.e. non-terrorist) asylum seekers and send the rest, and the lawyers, back out to sea?

No we can't Ian. Remember, as soon as they're on Canadian soil they have all the same rights as a Canadian citizen.

Let's correct that G & M sentence "A handful of Toronto lawyers were en route to Vancouver Wednesday night to assist the incoming migrants..."

"A handful of [insert here: amoral, opportunistic] Toronto lawyers were en route to Vancouver Wednesday night to [delete: assist - insert: take taxpayers' money by filling the immigration legal system with as much billable activity as possible about] the incoming immigrants..."

There. That about covers it.

"A handful of Toronto lawyers were en route to Vancouver Wednesday night to assist the incoming migrants…"

....and a bus load of Dipper and Liberal party wonks are speeding to the landing site with hand bills in Tamilese on how to buy a party membership,vote for a list of open borders MPs and how to game the system for entitled entitlements.

To Hell with the Toronto lawyers. It's time to cut off their cash for life -- and the lazy-give-back-nothing lifestyles of the new immigrants -- while the rest of us foot all the bills.

Send the boat packing IMMEDIATELY.

Here's the money line from the G&M quoting Olivia Chow speaking to her existing and future Tamil constituents:

"Ms. Chow pointed out that when Canadian officials have turned away a ship with passengers seeking asylum in the past, the results have been tragic. After the Komagata Maru was turned away from Canada in 1914, British soldiers shot 26 of the vessel’s passengers upon its return to India.

And in 1939, Canada refused admission to more than 900 Jews fleeing Nazi persecution aboard the St. Louis. The ship returned to Europe and most of its passengers died in concentration camps."

Option #1: Replenish the ship at sea as a humanitarian gesture then physically prevent them from entering Canadian territorial waters if all of those on board do not have legitimate Canadian entry visas.

Option #2: There is always a need for another coral reef starter kit...

and why are Toronto lawyers heading to lotusland? Are there no lawyers in BC?

Interesting to see the vast number of commenters, almost 100%, at the Grope and Flail are against letting this boat land here even pointing out how the Liberals were against redoing the refugee legislation. Maybe there is hope when people get pissed off or frightened enough.

They should be physically barred from setting foot on Canadian soil, and everyone should be interviewed aboard ship (with no lawyers!) to determine how many of these people are legit and how many are scammers. The legit ones can stay. The rest get escorted back out to international waters and told to stay the hell out.

But since our government has no balls, by this time tomorrow I expect we'll have 500 brand new refugee claimants sponging off our tax dollars for the next 5-10 years.

Bill @ 11:04 got it exactly right....

If the US of A can't keep out illegal Mexican immigrants crossing by land, how can we hope to keep out this group? Is the ship going to dock in Vancouver?

Am wondering...do lawyers pay their fair share of taxes? I'd like to think they're paying themselves, especially after the young woman won a $6 million lost wages suit.

Tow that ship to Australia, they, at least, know how to handle the situation.

Not trying to be a cold heartless bastard here but...We, Canadians, cannot solve the problems of the rest of mankind, there is a finite limit to what we can and should do. The past immigration policy for the better part of the past fifty years should have taught us something. Canadians both native born and legal immigrants that came here in the Forties, Fifties and Sixties have worked and paid taxes to make this country what it is today. Today a refugee comming in 'illegaly' is entitled to more benefits than a senior citizen that has paid taxes for their whole life, enough is enough!! Its time to make a new start regarding refugee claims and immigration. We have reached a point in time where we are about to tip the scales on our 'culture'. WE had better wake up and realize where we are headed by being a liberal minded country as is posited in the MSM. We cannot nor should not be the saviour to the world.

Bill @ 11:04 has it right. The leeches will gather in Vancouver.

Texas Canuck, you were reading my mind. If we're gonna have some lawyers soaking off the Feds, couldn't we at least get some locals?

On topic, we all know what should happen here, as articulated by Texas Canuck in his first point, or by Ian in NS above.

It's bad enough the Canadian Supreme Court granted citizen privileges to anybody setting foot on Canadian soil (may a special place in hell be reserved for those specific justices).

But, when there is a way to honour this judgment without breaking it, by stopping the boat out at sea and addressing matters there, and our government can't or won't avail themselves of this option, it's maddening to me as a taxpayer. When we know they're coming, why in the hell do we wait to take action until they actually hit landfall?

Last I checked, Canada does not have a de jure open border policy. Once an illegal migrant sets foot on Canadian soil however, we have de facto open borders policy by court fiat.

Texas Canuck

Option #1: Replenish the ship at sea as a humanitarian gesture then physically prevent them from entering Canadian territorial waters if all of those on board do not have legitimate Canadian entry visas.

Right on!@!! I would advise too that the ones who are the best feed, dressed, & deferred to are probably terrorists put in the mix.
On a boat like this the violent ones will be the rulers.
No way should they even be allowed in Canadian waters. We can't afford the cue jumpers anymore. Enough of being the Worlds suckers! I would feel the same if they where English or Irish. Only in this case theres not even a semblance of people able to adapt to Western culture. I mean isn't Islamification enough with these idiots in Ottawa?
JMO

"Don't we any destroyers left?"
Winston Spenser Churchill

Bring the ship into a Northern POrt, arrest the Captain & crew for people trafficking, do a quick medical then fly the lot of them back to Sri Lanka.

Tell the lawyers to get stuffed back in Toronto.

Immigration is like a credit card with a high limit;

Instant gratification, then pain and misery for decades.

If you are a leftist, you have no idea what I mean.

As though we do not have a surplus of local leeches and some still wonder why lawyers have the reputation they do.

Fred, while I like your idea, the Supreme Court decision granting full protections of citizenship to illegals makes it impossible. As I suggested, the ship should be intercepted before it makes port, with both criminal and immigration matters dealt with there.

Good...send them to Toronto and send Khadr with them...just keep those terrorists out of the west.

I guess the Navy isn't suppose to protect our waters from illegal aliens who may be terrorist's supporters or terrorists. Jesus wept, two more ships allegedly on their way.

You will notice they do not head for a US Port...they are not allowed and would be turned back.

They know Canadian laws are lax and we are suckers for people that jump the que!

Load them up with fuel and food and send them on their way....let the Libranos and NDP screem!

I sent this letter today.

Dear Minister Nicholson

I'm trying to get this straight. Maybe you can help me. Marc Emory was arrested and extradited to the USA for selling seeds and Abdullah Khadr was set free and not extradited, for seeding cells. "Activists" are treated like returning heroes when they come back from supporting groups on the terrorist list and trying to undermine the efforts of our allies in keeping themselves safe. We have seen MPs march in the streets with these same extremist groups and they are not even condemned for it. The Tamil Tigers are about to dump another boatload on us and lawyers are lining up to defend them. Either we live in upsidedownland or something really stinks in our justice system.

Sincerely,

"the Supreme Court decision granting full protections of citizenship to illegals makes it impossible. "

Let's put the Supreme's on the plane and ship them overseas.

They are too stupid to be real Canadians.

. . as Trudeau rots in his grave, his rotten legacy lives on, corrupting justice and our nation.

Replenish the ship on humanitarian grounds then deny the ship and its passengers landing rights, oh and add the Toronto ambulance chasers to the ships manifest.

nick

oh and add the Toronto ambulance chasers to the ships manifest

Nice touch!!!

Apparently the ship will be escorted into Esquimault (the naval base near Victoria) when it arrives in about twelve hours. It has been dawdling along at very slow speeds (which is suspicious in itself) along the west coast of Vancouver Island, last reported near Ucluelet. I would imagine they are under naval escort already. News reports show a cluster of tents on shore (at the naval base) and so processing would happen there.

I also think we need drastic action on the flood of bogus refugees and perhaps even the real ones, from the Somali experience alone we are definitely being hosed and over-run with welfare fraud cases and links to terrorism that can't help either our country or the country of origin.

The cultural elite seem to have the attitude that their fellow hoser citizens are not good enough and need to be replaced one at a time by adoring third world slave-workers who will gratefully vote Liberal or NDP and otherwise not rock the boat while they turn the country into a socialist paradise. Of course having Harper in their way is an impediment but clearly one that can be worked around for the time being, then anoint the next Trudeau and move on with the revolution, with the millions of sheep brought in to pad the vote totals.

Also it's easier to stay at the top of the giant pyramid scheme when most of your competition has no clue and don't speak English. No wonder the lawyers are flocking to the spectacle, there are probably juicy per diems available for holding hands with a Tamil tiger (or its cub) and wiping away a few tears about how the mean Sri Lankan government shoots terrorists.

Well, it seems, America is not alone when it comes to Illegal Immigration problems. Kindof surprised Barry Soetoro didn't offer them asylum just to p-off the Arizonians.

Good Luck my Canadians Comrades.

Since there are women on board and the ship has been on sea for three months, my guess is that quite a few are pregnant by now (either willingly or unwillingly through rape). So, a lot of new Canadian citizens to drain our already overworked health care system.

My post went to spam. I'll try again.

The Liberals, in 2002, set up this new refugee system, where you don't have to apply for refugee status outside the country (as you do in the US). You can arrive here and instantly claim refugee status - having torn up your passport just as you arrived so that authorities can't send you back.

Then, again unlike in the US, your status is first 'assessed' without any requirement for supportive evidence or credibility, by an appointed refugee officer. It's obviously a totally subjective opinion for there is no need for evidence just the individual's claim of 'suffering'.

Then,the individual is set free while his claim is processed. Application to not set him free but detain him must be approved by an adjudicator. And, again unlike in the US, he is instantly given welfare, housing, medical care and legal assistance.

Why bother to go through immigration processes when you can get welfare benefits - which are not available to immigrant applicants and all kinds of assistance? And if you don't show up for your hearings - so what?

The Liberals set this up to bring in massive electoral support. These groups were locked into identity politics with the Liberals funding them to stay intact - and vote Liberal. Since most of them go to the three main cities of Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, and these are MP seat rich sites, then the Liberals want their votes.

Did you know that our electoral system requires that you are a citizen to vote? Did you know that our actual election polls don't ask for any evidence of your citizenship? If you aren't on the registration list then all that is needed is a driver's licence or medical card - neither of which require citizenship. OR, get this, two official bills, such as a telephone or hydro bill with your name and address on it. Then you can vote. Liberal.

Harper has been trying to clean up this mess. He's moving the immigration system more to requiring an acknowledgment of Canadian values, but he doesn't have the majority to deal with this highly profitable - to the Liberals - refugee system.

ET: "And, again unlike in the US, he is instantly given welfare, housing, medical care and legal assistance."

Which should come entirely from Liberal's pockets.

The SS St. Louis incident bothers me in relation to this boatload of suspect refugees. Hindsight is 20-20 but I feel there are some serious differences here. It'd take a lot more thinking on my part to articulate them fully but I don't think the Jews on the St. Louis were looking to take advantage of Canadian kindness, for starters, nor were they being sent over by the Haganah to test Canadian resolve towards potential terrorists hiding in the crowd. That's my start but I'll give it more thought, I'm sure.

Am wondering...do lawyers pay their fair share of taxes?

There is no amount of money that can ever make restitution for the damage that lawyers have done to our society over the past forty years or so.

Did the Toronto newspapers report the departure of the lawyers under the heading of Community Improvement?

A key difference between the Jews trying to enter in WWII and the Tamils is that the Jews had no history back in Europe of terrorist activities, whereas the Tamil Tigers have a long and vicious history and were actively engaged in a civil war, again unlike the Jews, of trying to set up a separate nation for themselves in Sri Lanka.

There is therefore no comparison and Ms Chow, as usual, is making a false analogy.

hmmmm an idea.

The Government should announce, with all due piety and multi-culti sensitivity, that due to these illegal cue jumpers, that all further regular immigration processing form Tamils will be suspended until ALL these claimants cases have been adjudicated/

Further, the planned number of Tamil immigrants that Canada expected to process should be added to the number of Sinhalese immigrants expected to apply for Canadian immigration.

This policy means that as long as the Tamils continue to run their human smuggling / skanky refugee scheme, their arch enemies get the benefit.

CBC poll goes wickedly ,deliciously wrong!
Q: should the tamil ship be turned around before reaching Canadian soil?
YES:83%
No:16%
God bless all you yes voters..I do have bit of faith restored.

ET, thanks for the enlightening information. I had never given it any thought, just assuming one had to be Canadian in order to vote. How wrong I was, since you are correct that one need not present proof of citizenship in order to register to vote.

They can come, but they have to live on Hudson's Bay for a couple-five years until all the paperwork gets done.

In tents.

Now how many takers?

To add another voice, Texas Canuck at August 12, 2010 11:56 AM has put it in proper perspective.

On the other hand, it's up to the government of Canada to fix the proces and tell the supreme court that it is not their job to make laws. Of course that requires for the politicians to have some guts, though maybe that is too much to ask.

Contact Jason and tell him to send the terrorists back.

kennej@parl.gc.ca

Mark, I think you meant to headline:

"A handful of unemployed Toronto lawyers whose careers were stymied by Ezra Levant and Mark Steyn's successful gutting of Human Rights Commission lawfare, were en route to Vancouver Wednesday night to see if they can start paying the rent again from phoney refugee claims and assist the incoming migrants…"

Oh what bullsh!t when in theh istory of man has it been acceptable to just off load yourself onto other people's land and do nothing but ruin it ....this aint no british or french colonisation these useless pieces of garbage are going to cost you and me another 2,500,000.00 each this is rediculous changeo ur laws immidiatley .....here is a question if the chinease invade us or the iranians invade and they make land do they have the same right's to ?

this is garbage tell them if they don't turn away we will sink there boat and they will be an added addition to the whale watching tour's !!! Friken leaches .

Why do other peoples problem alway's and i mean alway's have to be friken CANADA'S problems . enough of the nice guy crap eh!!!

Paul in calgary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OqkMjx0XSI&feature=related

Radio reports from Ottawa today stated that health officials are concerned the boat passengers are carrying TB.
A hospital ward is being cleared to assess/treat them.
Correct me if I'm wrong but at one point didn't you have to be free of TB to get into this country?
What the hell happened to that law?

The Glengarrian: "What the hell happened to that law?"

What the hell happened to our country, period? 'Used to be a law-and-order place and now it's just catch as catch can, people, not even Canadian citizens, doing what they can get away with, which is just about anything, while the rest of us stand on the sidelines, wringing our hands and cursing under our breath.

Yup. That's what Trudeau's Marauders have done to a once honourable country. It's the Wild West all over again -- 'only without the guns and pretty girls and with no chance of the good guys winning at the OK Corral.

Damn.

Might want to take another look at that CBC poll, it doesn't look like that anymore. I guess the liberals have been busy. If you can get past going there, it looks like it needs some of our help.

well post the link you dummies !!! that poll will get flipped around again . POST THE FRIKEN LINK.

PAUL IN CLAGARY

A Mk48 torpedo is a lot cheaper than life-long welfare for another batch of economic migrants liberally sprinkled with vicious terrorists....

Ahh... there - feeling much better now. Send the friggin' buggers back home and let'em apply to immigrate properly. We've taken more than our global fair share of Tamils. Based on the recent behaviour of Tamils already here, we're over-saturated with people who have no respect for Canadian values.

...cue the usual Tamil terrorist apologists and liars in 3...2....1

S.D.A. FOLKS HERE YOU GO LET'S MAKE THIS POLL CONTINUE TO GO HORRIBLY WRONG

http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/08/question-of-the-day-170.html

Paul in calgary

"A handful of Toronto lawyers were en route to Vancouver Wednesday night to assist the incoming migrants…"

Hey. Any truth to the rumour that the Tamils are carrying a virus that is fatal to slugs, lice and other low-order parasites?

POLL UPDATE: As of 11:10 PM EST, the figures are now-

42%/767 votes Yes, stop the ship
56%/1,009 votes No, don't stop the ship
2%/30 votes Unsure

Sure turned around amazingly, didn't it...

I think that Canadian submarines could use some torpedo practice; aren't they supposed to be keeping invaders away from Canada? OTOH, I'm sure F18 pilots would be quite happy to deliver a few 1000 lb "welcome to Canadian waters" presents.

Load torpedo tubes vun and two Karl. Target at 1000 meters straight ahead. Fire vun! Fire two! (Clock ticking--tick tick tick tick)

"Ve hit it!! (Music plays--Captain Karl fills tin cup with black coffee. "Return to base--mission accomplished!"

"...same rights as a Canadian citizen"

Try more rights! You won't see these people hauled before the CHRC - Ever.

Someone mentioned the US inability to keep out Mexicans. Where do you think those Mexicans are going to end up as they get squeezed down south a little.

Yup, just one more big assed fenceless and defenseless border to cross and they are in the lap of liberal socialist luxury at it's finest.

Doing jobs Canadians won't do no doubt.

OK So these are Tamil Refugees. If they really were that desperate to leave Sri Lanka, why not take the 30 minute boat trip to India, where the state of Tamil Nadu is full of Tamils?

I suggest the immigrants go live with Chuck Woolry and BTJ.

Simeon @ 7:09 p.m., yesterday, gave Jason Kenney's email address as: kennej@parl.gc.ca

In my address book and at the government's web site, it's listed as:

Kenney.J@parl.gc.ca

India won't take them..Australia turns them away.. the Americans won't let them in..but we'll take anybody...right Bob and Igggy. Thanks to the Liberals Canada is now the destination of choice.

http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/08/question-of-the-day-170.html

I work with a number of Tamils and their views on Canada were shocking. Seems that it's common knowledge among Tamils that Canada is the only country that offers lifelong welfare. They happily told me that was why they choose Canada.

One told me that when his wife gets here, he will get her on welfare, 'So we can have more money.' Another told me that all his buddies were on welfare and had no desire to work. He said he was working now because welfare didn't pay him enough to attract a woman.

I tried (in vain) to explain that welfare was only a short-term safety net and that 'lifers' were considered total scum and looked down upon. He replied,'Only for white people.'

And they firmly believe that coming by boat and crashing the country was their right.

I tried. And I keep trying.

Steve

Hey, Steve!

Why don't you write your MP (unless it's Olivia Chow or Jack Laydown) to let him/her know what a bunch of Tamils are up to -- or, better yet, how about writing to the PM with a cc to Rob Nicholson and Jason Kenney?

Why the hell should hard-working Canadians, often with few or no dental and other benefits for them or their families, be underwriting this cash-for- life scam of these newcomer scumbags?

The poll has gone the wrong way.
No doubt the large number of tamils
living in Canada has something to do
with the results.

Declare Toronto to be the new capital of Tamil Nadu and bring 'em all over here. I am sure a couple million of us can get along with the Indian government, they have no shortage of jobs in IT that's for sure.

"Tamil Nadu -- it's for you, hosers."

If they could afford the estimated $45,000 for boat fare then they can afford paying their own lawyers. By chartering a boat they have demonstrated that they have assets and are not elgible. No to legal aid, no to welfare. No pay, no legal feeding frenzy - let the sharks collect their own fees