C'mon they saw Me-celle Obama first. Granted it was from 37,000 feet looking down on a beach in Spain. But they did see Me--celle Obama first.

How different is Bush from Obama and his "Pillars"?

No wonder the Dems are trying to restrict military absentee ballots.

How can you "miss" W? With the continued bankster bail outs, protracted overseas military entanglements and the constantly running printing presses at the mint, it's like he never left.

1) Banks are paying back money lend them in the last year of Dubya's regime and will continue until debt to the American public is paid in full.

2) “Iraq is a war of choice. Afghanistan is a war of necessity."
— Barrack Obama.

3) Dubya has not been in charge of the printing presses for 20 months.

So, Bill, do you have any other bogus points?

I didn't agree with a lot of things Bush did, like deficit budgets and Iraq should have been dealt with differently, but I have always believed him to be a man of principles and values.
Of course, Obama is also a man of principles and values, few of which I share.

Unh uh, you're all missing the point....

GWB has character unlike the current crypto communist occupying the position at the moment.

GWB is a worthless piece of sh1t...to even foster any notion that would imply otherwise is a symptom of an ignorant, delusional mind.

I'm thinking Bill regrets getting that "Hope You Can Believe In" tattoo.

Real bummer showing you were suckered by Obozo.

Hey, these guys didn't get the memo about "George Bush hates black people." I guess they don't follow Kanye West's Twitter or somethin'

Cross-posted at The Anchoress this morning:

President Bush and Laura: true patriots who really care about the troops. George W. was a real Commander in Chief, unlike Obam-bam who seems to resent this presidential role, as he peremptorily salutes his guard when emerging from the presidential helicopter and seldom “graces” the American troops with his sartorial splendour.
Obama seems to like the perks of the job but not the substance.

‘Wrong priorities, Mr. President.

Say what you will the man has honor and integrity.

Noone who reaches the office of the President of the United States can possibly have honor or integrity. Only the dirtiest, most corrupt of the corrupt would ever be allowed to win this position. Bush spent his days as a republican President tempering and compromising his Conservative principles on the altar of political correctness and corporaty toadyism. he never saw a conservative principle that he wasn't willing to abandon. Kate quotes that appeasing your enemies does not make them your friends. The Bush regeme was one of unadulterated appeasment to the left and to word bankers. As a conservative ( a defender of freedom and individual rights) he was an abject failure. As an illuninati stooge, he was a smashing success.

Former Pres. Bush takes time to greet 150 troops returning from Af-stan ... whereas sitting Pres. Obama can't even be bothered to go to Arlington Military Cemetery on Memorial Day to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers, an 85 year old annual presidential custom.

Obama went home to Chicago for a 2 week vacation instead. No commemorative activities took place their, either. (Maybe a BBQ with his terrorist friend Bill Ayers, instead.)

What that does is to encapsulate Obama's real feelings about veterans, fallen or otherwise.

Miss W do you?

Here you go...."Islam is the religion of peace and is awesome. Muslims are real straight shooters."

Feel better now?

Bush was a true friend of his Saudi brethren and spared nothing to shield Islam from criticism. Some hero you have chosen to miss.

"They should thank me!"
Obama

"Thank You!"
Bush

Bushies, Neo-Cons, Birthers, Tea Partiers, Glen Beck fans, Morons of all stripe, You didn't get mad...
You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.
You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate energy policy.
You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.
You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.
You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just 'disappeared' in Iraq.
You didn't get mad when you saw the Abu Grahib photos.
You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.
You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.
You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
You didn't get mad when we let a major US city drown.
You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.
You didn't get mad when Goldman Sachs committed massive fraud and then received billions in bailout money.

You finally got mad when.. when... wait for it... when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies,
corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all ok with you but helping other Americans... well f#@k that. That about right? You know it is.

You people have all lost your f@#king minds. You are selfish, greedy, obnoxious, narcissistic, and frankly... stupid. Your pathetic little misspelled protest signs are embarrassing. Maybe you ought to find the smart person in your midst and let them make up all the signs, cause man, you look like a bunch of idiots. Also you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.

We appear to have a couple of trolls who are off their meds again.

Amazing how this post brings out the spittle flecked lunatics.

Go back to that bug lamp for bozos, Huffpoo, and join the circle jerk.

LEO:

What proof do you have anybody else has lost their minds?

Why do you name-call?

First one to name-call loses the debate. You do know that, don't you?

So set you free - I guess the losers of the debate would be you caused by Leo Debris.

heh - I like that last statement of 'Leo Debris' that 'you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny'. I think that sums up, in total, the mentality of Leo. And others like him on this thread.

I think that Bush's war in Iraq, which was a coalition of many nations, not just the US, was the most important act of the last decade. It acknowledged the reality of Islamic fascism, acknowledged its cause (internal tribalism) and sought to remove that cause by enabling the population to move into a middle class political and economic structure of democracy.

Acknowledging the dysfunctional tribal nations of the Middle East was a truthful analysis - miles above the ignorant sophistry of the left that 'they attacked us because they are poor, or because we were imperialists, or because we ignore their religion or..'.

Obama, of course, is harming the results of this Iraqi War (the enabling of democracy in the ME) by his ignoring the democratic demonstrations in Iran, by his enabling Iran to get a nuclear weapon and enabling its imperialist ambitions in the area.

And - Obama is destroying the capacity of the Afghan people to move out of the power of the tribes, with his hodge podge Afghan agenda.

We miss Bush. He was and is, an honest and principled man, who unlike Obama, cares deeply for Ameria.

different:

Huh?

Not sure what you're trying to say.

It seems BDS is still a major malady amongst the leftoid population. I just hope Obamacare will cover the treatment of this obviously long term affliction.

B.D.S. will endure as long as there are "the vitimized"; "the I want you to do what I want"; "the I want, I want, I want" "the people who will move to the back of a group, when things become difficult, unless money is being paid at the front; Cheers;

BTJ,

Bush only pretended to be an idiot, so he could fool all of you.

And it worked damn well.

Pretty clever of Bush don

My bad set you free. Didn't notice that you have directed that to Leo Debris brain.

I miss W, too. And Laura.

On a side note, Rush Limbaugh has taken to calling Michelle Obama, "Moochelle".........mwahahahaha!

W, for all his faults, is a class act and truly loves his country. He's not running for any office, not seeking any personal gain; he did this out of his love & respect for the soldiers he once commanded.

Obama? You'll never see him do something like this either as president or as a former president. It would take too much time away from his golf game or hobnobbing with celebrities. Even if he did, I'd bet the troops won't be smiling the way they still do for W.

Contrast ET's logical and articulate analysis of the subject with the semi-hysterical, hate-filled rant graciously provided by LEO DEBRIS.

A first-time visitor to the site would have no problem determining just who have their heads on straight and who has a couple of wires that only touch occaisionally within the cranium.

DEBRIS neglected to include the preferred labels of "racist" and "redneck" in his tantrum. These omissions, however, were probably due to forgetfulness rather than good sense.

To the leftards,

Off the top of my head,

You didn't get mad when ACORN committed massive voter fraud and when the Obam campaign refused to publish their list of contributors unlike the McCAin campaign who published it on CBS.

You don't get mad when The New York Times revealed sensitive information that helps terrorists.

You didn't get mad when Echelon was passed by Bill Clinton. ( being leftards you probably have never heard of Echelon... )

You don't get mad that Obama lied about stopping war in Afghanistan and/or Irak, his campaign was based on being the PEACE president...mad yet?

You don't get mad when Obama is still spending Billions on two wars and has recently sent 30,000 additional troops.

You don't get mad when every week a Democrat is caught stealing money. ( I could fill this page with about a hundred links )

You don't get mad when you see humanitarian workers having their heads chopped off by barbaric medieval terrorists.

You don't get mad even though you know many nation are REALLY into torturing people( North Korea, Afghanistan etc...Remember the Female CANADIAN journalist whose body was found in Afghanistan without finger nails and many other undeniable evidence of torture ?).

You didn't get mad when Clinton trough Echelon was illegally spying on regular Americans.

You DO get mad when we give the death penalty to murderous monsters.

You don't get mad when you see terrorists completely ignoring the Geneva convention or allowing the Red Cross to visit prisoners.

You didn't get mad when it took over 3 months for Obama to even blink an eye about the gulf oil spill, and when he blocked most solutions to the spill and when you learned he received massive amounts of money from BP.

You didn't get mad when UNDER A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS, SENATE AND WHITE HOUSE the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.

You didn't get mad when Goldman Sachs committed massive fraud WITH THE HELP OF POWERFUL DEMOCRATS and then received billions in bailout money THAT THEY THEN SHARED WITH DEMOCRATS SUCH AS OBAMA.

Friend:

Thanks for that list. Saved me a point-by-point response.

I was going to point out the trillion-dollar deficit is a recent phenomenon and that Wall Street was one of the main supporters of the Obama campaign. Having said that, much of the Wall Street bailout has been paid back.

Facts are the best way to uncover the truth.

One thing you missed though. Obama promised to close Guantanamo back in January, did he not?

Set you free,

You are right I forgot Obama lying about Gitmo.

the list of things Obama promised but did not deliver on is so long, who can remember everything!...

Bush will forever be known as the most hated President in US history.

A President so hated that even his own party didn't dare mention him (and largely still doesn't mention him) for fear of harming its continuing survival.

He will also be known in history as the man who turned the largest surplus in history into the largest deficit in history.

And that's about it.

Oh yeah...and choking on a pretzel while drunk. Finis.

Chuck - were you there? How do you know he was drunk? This is typical of leftards - lies and innuendo.

You conveniently forgot to mention that the Congress who ultimately decides on spending was controlled by Democrats.

AND - the most despised and incompetent President in US history is none other than Jimmy Carter. Yes - the anti-semite Jimmy Carter.
Thank God Reagan came along to rescue America's power and dignity. Oh yes - Reagan the REPUBLICAN.

An now Obama has proposed a deficit larger than the combined deficits in the entire history of the US.

Congratulations. What an alternative!

chuck wollery
[.......He will also be known in history as the man who turned the largest surplus in history into the largest deficit in history......]

OK........explain---OBOZO's stimulus doesn't count?

BDS.......

From Moe Lane @ RedState http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2010/08/12/agreed-gibbs-obama-is-not-bush/

I am forced to agree with him. Barack Obama is not like George W. Bush.

It’s important that a distinction be made between the two men, in fact. So we at RedState have put together a list - a non-exhaustive list - explaining just how the two are different.

Why the President is nothing like George W. Bush.

* George W. Bush didn’t blame his predecessor for his own failures.
* George W. Bush can throw a pitch.
* George W. Bush believes in American exceptionalism.
* George W. Bush set policy.
* George W. Bush showed respect and courtesy to the opposite party while President.
* George W. Bush didn’t let his appointments set policy.
* George W. Bush doesn’t whine.
* George W. Bush went out and did the things that he said that he’d do.
* George W. Bush has a thick skin.
* George W. Bush faced down a hostile Congress on issues that mattered to him.
* George W. Bush doesn’t give a… flying leap… what the polls say.
* George W. Bush could make, and take responsibility for, tough decisions.
* George W. Bush didn’t take credit for other people’s work.
* George W. Bush never had to remind anyone that he won.
* George W. Bush had principles.
* George W. Bush defended them.

And last, but certainly not least:

* George W. Bush doesn’t bow.

Bush never complained about the anti-right main stream media that plotted against him and lied 24/7 about him.

Obama complained numerous times about Fox news, even though 99% of the main stream media is covering is a**, not to mention the MSM lied and concealed evidence to help elect Obama.

What is even more heartening than the pictures are the comments there.

I guess it is not at all surprising that the trolls have not left messages there. The left is probably unaware that such a fine organization like the USO even exists.

Books and movies were made in which Bush was being assassinated.

The left celebrated those piece of sh**.

Bush NEVER EVER complained - not once.

Hey leftards, find me something comparable with Obama!

The night of the Fort Hood shootings, President Bush, with the former First Lady, drove his own vehicle 75 miles to visit the wounded in the hospital. Meanwhile Obama was yucking it up a conference, giving a 'shout-out' to some fellow socialist before he briefly mentioned the atrocity. When word reached the White House that the Bushes were on the Fort Hood base, the White House asked them to leave, because it would make Obama look bad.

After the invasion of Afghanistan Bush curtailed his golfing to almost nothing as he felt that he should not be enjoying himself while American soldiers were in peril. Compare that to Obama's recent golf schedule and his 'date nights' in New York that cost taxpayers millions of dollars and shut down vital airports and traffic arteries.

One is a public servant and the other is the American Sun King.

No, a different bob

GW Bush is the most hated President in US history.

That's historical fact. Look it up.

As for the drunken pretzel choking ... hey, lots of my buddies choke on pretzels all the time while they're watching football games...

...and they pass out unconscious...and fall down and bruise their face on the floor...

...happens all the time...especially to self-admitted 'reformed' alcoholics...

. . . all the time... ;)

bob:

I guess the point chuck is trying to make is a logical consequence of our times.

Seems to me there's a lot less tolerance by the ‘enlightened' left of anybody unlike them.

That disrespect of anybody unlike them naturally leads to an intensified level of hatred.

Like my mom used to say ... when you hate somebody, you only destroy yourself.

Very true in the case of BDS.

Hatred and intolerance have destroyed any gifts of humanity the practitioners of BDS were born with.

Wollery - sounds like you might be having copious beers and pretzel right now.

keep drinking the cool-aid.

BTW - "look it up" where? On Huffington?

God bless George W. Bush: he's a class act all right.

Class acts come in all varieties, but part and parcel of Bush's integrity is his strong Christian faith. Like One before him, he's remained silent in the face of the most barbaric and mean-spirited attacks. His grace and maturity make Obama look all the more like the petulant, spolied brat-baby he is. God help the USA.

And God bless George, Laura, and America!

Hey, thanks for handing me a laugh, dudes.

"Mr. Bush's final approval rating is the lowest final rating for an outgoing president since Gallup began asking about presidential approval more than 70 years ago."

Hey, that 'BDS' things seemed to work for you guys for awhile didn't it?

But at the end of his term seems like 78% of the country had 'BDS', didn't it? Given that the guy had a 22% approval rating.

That's right: the lowest. rating. ever. in . history.

Wow! 'BDS' must be contagious huh?

Add onto that the fact that his name remains Kryponite to any Republican to this day.

But hey: congrats on being part of the 22% dead-ender True Believers! So touching that Kate set this little clubhouse up for you. Yay! :)

chuck:

It's been nearly two years since Dubya had his shot at president.

Get over it, already.

I'd hate to see you destroy yourself with unnecessary stress.

Man I can't wait tell the wee children are back in school & off of the Computer at least 6 hours a day.
Teenage mutant progressives drones.
Even their pimples match.
JMO

Hey "set you free"

Here I thought that the subject of this thread was GW Bush - given its title and the fact that you guys have spent the whole thread gushing about him.

Now you're saying I shouldn't bring him up in a thread devoted to him?

That's odd logic.

Almost as odd claiming that nealy 80% of the American public suffers from BDS
...simply because they don't share yours' and Kate's fringe whacko utterly-disconnected-from-reality ideas!

chuck:

Talk about him all you like.

Just don't get too wound up about it.

For your information, you are no better than anybody else here.

Exchange ideas, be respectful, be civil. That's the tone here.

Your last statement suggests you believe in your own superiority. Too bad.

You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.

- They had every right to do that. Oh and you did know that every recount following that by the most partisan people around never resulted in a win for Gore in Florida. You did know that right?

You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate energy policy.

- Of course not, there is nothing illegal or particularly special about it. This sort of thing is going on right now on a massive scale in the Obama White House. If you are upset by Chaney doing it why aren't you all over Obama for doing it?

You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.

- No because she wasn't a covert operative and the Democrat in the State Department who outed her never suffered a moment of prosecution, but Cheney and his staff where harressed night and day about what a Democrat who was known to be the source by the investigator, leaked. So yes I am mad about the media's false reporting and your smug false knowledge of this.

You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
- Many people did, but you should know that the patriot act was every wish list item of every security agency for the last 20 years. They tried to get the same stuff passed under Clinton and only failed to do so because of the Republican outrage over to it. So the security agencies not the Republicans used 9/11 as a reason to fast track it through. And even there most of it is nothing particularly bad just updating stuff, most of what I see spouted about the evils of this are actually false urban legend type myths when examined.

You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

- Guess what we can do that any time we want. The president can launch an invasion on any country he/she wants at anytime, and if congress approves it then we have an official war, if they don't then we get a police action like Vietnam. In this case Congress approved the war. So what is illegal about it?

You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.
- What illegal war, and yes people have wanted better over site of it but thems the breaks when you are at war.

You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just 'disappeared' in Iraq.
- Of course people are annoyed about it.

You didn't get mad when you saw the Abu Grahib photos.
- What of course people didn't get upset about the government why should they. It was a case of idiot people in the prison itself being stupid idiots. As soon as the proper authorities where notified they got rounded up and arrested. So what was to be upset about?

You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
- No this is special why? The entire world does it. At least we try to do it minimally and with as little physical harm as possible compared to pretty much the rest of the world.

You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.
- This has been going on since the 70's. Were have you been? Living with your head under a rock?

You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.
- No that was never a big deal and if it is a big deal why aren't you marching on Obama to insist he do it?

You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
- Not familiar with this one but figure it was spun to the most negative it could be since it is on this list.

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city drown.
- Yes I did, at the Mayor of the city who let it happen that way and at the State of Louisiana who didn't respond at all. Absolutely not at the US government and FEMA. FEMA isn't a first responder. It is their place to show up 1+ weeks after a disaster and help pick up the pieces. It isn't their place to do anything at the time. That is the place of the city and state who completely screwed up on it. Look at the rest of the area that was hit as hard or harder and they got up and recovered.

You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.
- Yes most people did, they thought Bush was an absolute idiot for listening to the advice to bailout the banks and wall street. By the same token Obama has been doubling down and tripling down on the same mistake. Complain to the current occupant for following the same bad economic theory that Bush did.

You didn't get mad when Goldman Sachs committed massive fraud and then received billions in bailout money.
- Yes people did, you clearly didn't pay attention. Public opinion was 70 - 80% against it when congress passed the bailout. That doesn't sound like people didn't get mad to me.

You finally got mad when.. when... wait for it... when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies,

- Why yes we did, because the medical screwing that Obama and the Democrats passed don't do what you just claimed. It will instead directly result in poor care, more people dieing etc. IT will do nothing to help improve medical care. Oh and in the US you have always had the right to go to the emergency room and get treated even if you have no money. Never needed it. One reason that an hour of care in the emergency room is billed at like $23,000.00 because the hospital has to recapture the money somewhere. And the private pay who can pay gets to pay for all that 'free' care.

I clearly judge that you haven't been paying attention if you believe the list you posted.

From the George Bush wisdom feed

George W Bush : Haven't we already given money to rich people? This second tax cut's gonna do it again.
Didn't we already, why are we doing it again?... shouldn’t we be giving money to the middle?
Rove "Stick to principle"

Bush -- man of wisdom Rove -- man of principle

Wollery - I just need to clarify something. You said Bush is the most "hated" President in the history of the US. How do you equate "approval rating" with "hate"?

I don't approve of Obama's job performance but I don't hate the guy.

Hate seems to be in the domain of the left. So much hate there.

I've tried to keep quiet, but I just can't hold it in any longer. I have to tell everyone that Pres. George W Bush shows a complete lack of foresight. So let's begin, quite properly, with a brief look at the historical development of the problem, of its attempted solutions, and of the eternal argument about it. Plagiarism doesn't work. So why does George cling to it? If you were to ask George that question, he'd blather on about vigilantism and pharisaism in some sort of anti-democratic attempt to confuse and bewilder his listeners and thereby avoid ever actually answering the question. And for those pompous wing nuts who want to hide behind the argument that his subordinates are not doctrinaire, flighty skivers but rather stubborn swaggerers, my question is simply this: What's the difference?

George uses the word "anticonfederationist" to justify elevating his complaints to prominence as epistemological principles. In doing so, he is reversing the meaning of that word as a means of disguising the fact that one of the great mysteries of modern life is, Has he ever considered what would happen if a small fraction of his time spent trying to brandish the word "chlamydobacteriaceae" (as it is commonly spelled) to hoodwink people into believing that he is a martyr for freedom and a victim of classism was instead spent on something productive? I once asked George that question—I am still waiting for an answer. In the meantime, let me point out that if you hear George spouting off about how his magic-bullet explanations are Right with a capital R, you should tell him that it has been my position and remains my position that he needs some serious professional help. Better yet, tell him to stop getting his opinions from the most rebarbative scumbags you'll ever see and start doing some research of his own. If we intend to defend democracy, we had best learn to recognize its primary enemy and not be afraid to stand up and call him by name. That name is Pres. George W Bush.

It is the job of the President of the US to defend freedom as it is defined in the US Constitution.

Freedom flows from God-given inalienable rights that no individual can confer or take away from any other individual.

Dubya had to react to an event, 9/11, that happened, an event in which the US was attacked on its soil for only the second time in history (Pearl Harbour being the other).

If Dubya is so stupid, what does that make the people who could not defeat him for his second term? More than stupid?

Let's hear it, chuck. Your ilk got outsmarted by Dubya.

See, name-calling is not a mark of superiority ... it is a confirmation of inferiority of ideas.

PS. Your latest post makes no sense.

Woah Chuck!!! Back up the bus. Too many beers this early in the day. Stick with the pretzels boy.

Waaaaaaaaay too much cool-aid.

Bush was the least popular President and Paris Hilton was once the most popular woman on the planet;

Both reputations were TOTALLY manufactured by the main stream media.

Popularity is not a measure of a person's worth, it is a measure of how efficient the media is at manufacturing "news"

Sorry lefties, but you lose on this one.

"if you hear George spouting off about how his magic-bullet explanations are Right with a capital R, you should tell him that it has been my position and remains my position that he needs some serious professional help."

Yeah OK chuck we'll let him know next time he drops by for a cup of batshitcrazy

To ALL lefties,

Would you trust what Bob Geldof has to say?

Ok so read what he said about Bush,

...

(...)It is some story. And I have always wondered why it was never told properly to the American people, who were paying for it. It was, for example, Bush who initiated the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) with cross-party support led by Senators John Kerry and Bill Frist. In 2003, only 50,000 Africans were on HIV antiretroviral drugs — and they had to pay for their own medicine. Today, 1.3 million are receiving medicines free of charge. The U.S. also contributes one-third of the money for the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria — which treats another 1.5 million. It contributes 50% of all food aid (though some critics find the mechanism of contribution controversial). On a seven-day trip through Africa, Bush announced a fantastic new $350 million fund for other neglected tropical diseases that can be easily eradicated; a program to distribute 5.2 million mosquito nets to Tanzanian kids; and contracts worth around $1.2 billion in Tanzania and Ghana from the Millennium Challenge Account, another initiative of the Bush Administration.

So why doesn't America know about this? "I tried to tell them. But the press weren't much interested," says Bush.

...

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1717934,00.html#ixzz0wQP1cgay

...

What you you know and what is are two different things.

There was a concerted effort to discretid Bush and it worked, millions of people have never heard the truth about Bush, so in a survey they say they hate him, but they are only revealing their IGNORANCE both of who the real Bush is and of what the Main Stream Media is capable of.

Leftists are depressingly naive.

I do not know if "depressingly naive" is good English but then again my first language is French.

I do not only miss W.

I miss kicking leftist butts with facts about Bush they have never heard of.

Left-liberalism is a mental disorder.

Enjoy the left-liberals as they ssip on each other.

...-

"Cindy Sheehan Challenges Robert Gibbs to a “Pee-Off”

When it seemed politics could not get any more juvenile, the Left has sunk to a new low. Cindy Sheehan has challenged White House spokesman Robert Gibbs “to a pee-off.”

Earlier this week, Gibbs lashed out at what he called “the professional Left” – as he has everyone else – saying, “Those people ought to be drug-tested.”

Left-wing professional wailer Sheehan saw him and raised him.

“I will put my urine up against Gibbs’ any day, and in fact, will travel to Washington to give him a fresh and warm sample,” she offered.

(Excerpt) Read more at exposeobama.com ..."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2569458/posts

@ Friend of the USA

It's nice to see you zealously defending the dubya, and that's an interesting read but the truth is that no one cares. People only really use words like "facts" and "reason" to give them credibility. People hate George Bush because it's a gut feeling. People hate Stephen Harper because it's a gut feeling. "Gawsh I don't know much about his policies but I sure don't like his haircut!" It's for exactly the same reason people like Obama.

It doesn't matter how much aid Bush gives Africa, Africa isn't a cool cause celebre anymore. His name, his look and his politics makes people angry because their guts and friends tell them to. It can't be debated or reasoned with. So let the mouth-breathing seething vitriol flow!

I know I'm wasting my time and energy but I enjoy throwing irrefutable facts in the face of leftists
FACTS that leftists have never even heard of,

...

In 2003, President Bush announced a program called the Hydrogen Fuel Initiative (HFI) during his State of the Union Address.
This initiative, supported by legislation in the Energy Policy Act of 2005 (EPACT 2005) and the Advanced Energy Initiative of 2006, aims to develop hydrogen, fuel cell and infrastructure technologies to make fuel-cell vehicles practical and cost-effective by 2020.

...

And here is some icing on the cake,

Obama has cancelled this fuel cell program in 2009.

Wow, this thread really shows the true colours of anyone posting.

If you can sit there and tear apart Obama on a daily basis, blaming him for just about anything and everything that's wrong in your view, yet praise GWB...you might just be a brainwashed, neo-con, ignorant fool.

If you are not 100% certain that GWB was an abject failure as a President and a crazy religious fanatic, you are seriously delusional and committed to following a Neo-Con ideology like a sheep. You have no clout, you dug your own grave, you have absolutely nothing of value to contribute and you've displayed that right here.

For those who can see reality, I enjoyed the posts...especially Leo's...well said.

set you free @ August 12, 2010 10:53 AM

It's not me making the "bogus points. Give your head a shake, partisan myopia is a mind killer.

Dubya a religious fanatic?

Dubya stands for individual freedom and a free market based on individual decisions.

Obama believes government can be a top-down force for good. Can be being the key words.

Understand the difference, BTJ?

One more thing....
Let's talk about Pres. G W Boooooosh!'s objectives. Let's talk about them in a very specific and personal way. Let me start by stressing that I am not attempting to suppress anyone's opinions, nor do I intend to demean Boooooosh! personally for his beliefs or worldviews. But I do profess that I must make plans and carry them out. We must raise several issues about his mawkish, stubborn vituperations that are frequently missing from the drivel that masquerades for discourse on this topic. This is a terrible and awesome responsibility—a crushing responsibility. However, if we stick together we can can show the world that the basal lie that underlies all of Boooooosh!'s destructive prophecies is that parasitic lowlifes aren't ever irresponsible. Translation: Boooooosh! is always being misrepresented and/or persecuted. I doubt you need any help from me to identify the supreme idiocy of those views, but you should nevertheless be aware that the question that's on everyone's mind these days is, "Is Man to be free to follow his conscience and worship as he sees fit, or must he accept a conscience and god provided to him by Boooooosh!?" Boooooosh! doesn't want you to know the answer to that question; he wants to ensure you don't recall the ideals of compassion, nonviolence, community, and cooperation.

What may seem insignificant or humorous to Boooooosh! is often hurtful and confusing to others. That shouldn't surprise you when you consider that he will silence any criticism of the brainwashing and double standards that he has increasingly been practicing when you least expect it. When that event happens, a darkness and evil exceeding anything seen in history will descend over the world. I can hope only that before it does, people will make some changes here. Only then can we give Boooooosh! condign punishment.

If Boooooosh! wants to complain, he should have an argument. He shouldn't just throw out the word "pseudointernationalistic", for example, and expect us to be scared. I strive to be consistent in my arguments. I can't say that I'm 100% true to this, but Boooooosh!'s frequent vacillating leads me to believe that he accuses me of being a liar. The only proven liar around here, however, is Boooooosh!. Only a die-hard liar like Boooooosh! could claim that there's no difference between normal people like you and me and backwards, confused poltroons. The truth, in case you haven't already figured it out, is that someone once said to me, "Boooooosh!'s maudlin, kissy-pooh, feel-good, touchy-feely memoranda are actually quite argumentative when you look at them a bit closer." This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since. It would be a work of supererogation to celebrate knowledge and truth for the sake of knowledge and truth at a time when every week there transpires news of ornery brigands following Pres. G W Boooooosh!'s orders to make a mockery of our most fundamentally held beliefs. That is why, come what may, we must wage war on totalitarianism.

Posted by: Bill at August 12, 2010 5:18 PM

So, you deny making the statements that are there for all to see?

Friend of USA:

"Obama has cancelled this fuel cell program in 2009."

Ya, cause it was a waste of everything it had to do with. Are you seriously trying to argue that the program was some sort of success?

You clearly don't have a complete understanding of ANY issues, you just spout some random meaningless crap that GWB 'accomplished'.

Getting increased aid for African's dieing of AIDS and at the same time making it impossible for generic drugs to be produced doesn't contradict each other somehow?

You need to do some serious reading my ignorant friend.

GWBis a loser, the worst president EVER, who's presidency is responsible for a good deal of the US's current situation. That's reality whether you choose to ignore it or not.

Get your own pseudonym.

"Dubya a religious fanatic?

Dubya stands for individual freedom and a free market based on individual decisions."

What does that have to do with religion again? Bush is CLEARLY a religious fanatic and has stated so over and again. Declaring that god has a mission and that god helps him make decisions is religious fanaticism..by definition.

Stop impersonating me, loser. You get your own name.

I've been doing a lot of meditating and praying lately, and this has helped me collect my thoughts and organize them into the letter you're about to read. The full truth of my conclusion I shall develop in the course of this letter but the conclusion's general outline is that Dr. Friend of USA's projects are based on a denial of reality, on the substitution of a deliberately falsified picture of the world in place of reality. And this dishonesty, this refusal to admit the truth, will have some very serious consequences for all of us in the blink of an eye. I fully intend to challenge the soft bigotry of low expectations. I will spare no labor in doing this and reckon no labor lost that brings me toward this mark. Even so, if natural selection indeed works by removing the weakest and most genetically unfit members of a species then Friend is clearly going to be the first to go. To end on a more positive note: It's time for Dr. Friend of USA to grow up.

BTJ:

Can you show me where Dubya stated over and over again he's a religious fanatic?

The US Constitution is based on Christian values and that's what has made the US and exceptional people's.

Once again, it's the president's duty to uphold the constitution and its values, including the principles upon which the constitution was based.

Winston Churchill once said: “there are only two types of people when it comes to prediction the future ... those who don't know and those who know they don't know."

Dubya's heart was in the right place after the 9/11 attacks and the title of commander in chief is central to the US constitution.

His actions were intended to prevent further attacks on US soil by engaging those who wished to destroy the US on foreign soil.

Now, the nutbar jihadists are not the only threat to the US and its history of protecting freedoms of the oppressed around the world.

But, I wouldn't expect you to understand and I'm likely wasting my time, since it's apparent you are not willing to understand even the basic fundamentals of what has made the US the greatest nation in the world's history.

"You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us."

Please explain why it was illegal.

Fred @ August 12, 2010 11:10 AM

Ha ha pretty funny. I'm about as far from a anti-constitutional neo-com Dem as you will find. Shows your level of ascertaining political stripe is about as astute as a dead fish.

I'm saying Bush spent like a drunken commie on crack and he opened the treasury to failed private interests as well as running the mint's press 24/7 - just like Obozo.

Also it seems Obozo likes burning up money on non wars as much as BO does. Iraq and Afghanistan were not wars but protracted unilateral policing of 3rd world shit holes that could have been toppled by CIA fomented revolution. The commie thugs at the UN could not have wasted American military budget better.

Speaking of Wars, there has been a true invasion of the US through its southern border throughout the Bush/Obama regimes which was left largely unaddressed. Pull the troops out of the hand holding role in Iraq and put them on the southern border.

"Can you show me where Dubya stated over and over again he's a religious fanatic?"

I told you! What aren't you piecing together here? The guy has said over and again that 'God' guides his decisions, that 'God' has a mission for him, that 'God' told him to do things. THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF RELIGIOUS FANATICISM!

"The US Constitution is based on Christian values and that's what has made the US and exceptional people's."

Did you miss the part in the forming of the US that mentioned SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. That's what has made the US exceptional...not 'Christian values'.

"His actions were intended to prevent further attacks on US soil by engaging those who wished to destroy the US on foreign soil."

Hahahaha...you actually suck that BS right up eh? So that's why he declared war on Iraq right? The regime that the US, including his daddy, had been propping up for decades? You need to do some reading.

" protecting freedoms of the oppressed around the world."

Clueless...what nation is the largest OPPRESSOR worldwide...the US. The US protects it's own interests PERIOD, from time to time they've chosen to word the protection of those interests as 'protecting the oppressed'.

"But, I wouldn't expect you to understand "

Good, cause you're not giving me anything that would warrant an understanding...it's you who is far from understanding reality.

"Please explain why it was illegal."

Wow, Kathryn, tell me you're joking. Might I suggest doing some reading some time?

The International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg held following World War II that the waging of a war of aggression is:

"essentially an evil thing...to initiate a war of aggression...is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."

The invasion of Iraq was neither in self-defense against armed attack nor sanctioned by UN Security Counsel resolution authorizing the use of force by member states and thus constituted the crime of war of aggression, according to the International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) in Geneva.

BTJ,

Unless you can demonstrate that the fact every 5 years or so science finds new better ways of producing energy is Bush's fault, then you must admit Bush's effort with fuel cell is commendable.

You are not allowed to shift goal post.

You can not decide that today because you are having your ass kiscked here, thsat fuel cells are suddently a bad thing.

Back in 2002 you leftists were pushing hard for fuel cells.

Don;t shift goal posts, don;t cheat.

Bush accomplished great things that you have never even heard about, and you are so overwhelmed and out of arguments that you resort to name calling and throwing insults.

Bob Geldof daid very nice things about Bush,

Bono of rock group U2 said very nice things about Bush.

are they delusional conservatives too???

keep it up.

You are only helping me demonstrate my point.

"Speaking of Wars, there has been a true invasion of the US through its southern border throughout the Bush/Obama regimes which was left largely unaddressed. Pull the troops out of the hand holding role in Iraq and put them on the southern border."

Bill, what are your thoughts on the influence of NAFTA on US-Mexican relations? What, if any, are the effects of US economic policy on the average Mexican citizen?

"Unless you can demonstrate that the fact every 5 years or so science finds new better ways of producing energy is Bush's fault, then you must admit Bush's effort with fuel cell is commendable."

Hahaha...how about you demonstrate that random statement you just made. Show me how every 5 years a 'new better way of producing energy' is found. What was it that replaced hydrogen?

The whole effort was a non-effort. It was a facade, a joke, a wink to the oil and gas producers.

"You can not decide that today because you are having your ass kiscked here, thsat fuel cells are suddently a bad thing."

Huh, when did I support hydrogen fuel cells? Quote?

"Back in 2002 you leftists were pushing hard for fuel cells."

Ah, lumping me into some collective you've formed in you mind...you know, I find if pretty ironic that this site has so many posters who can't help but think in collective terms, judge collectively, and rely on the collective for strength...yet you all claim to be 'champions of the individual. Talk is cheap, especially when you contradict yourself at every corner.

"Bush accomplished great things that you have never even heard about"

Haha, right, so great that no one ever heard of them...must have been really amazing then huh!?

"Bono of rock group U2 said very nice things about Bush.

are they delusional conservatives too???"

I couldn't care less what some singer in a rock band says. If they disagree with me, there wrong.

heh - how about the lack of logic displayed by some of our esteemed posters on the left. Why is it that instead of fact-based and logical debate, they always move to invective, wild misinformation and smears?

BTJ's 5:20 rant against Bush has not a single item of fact but is just personal invective.

BTJ's claim that 'Bush is clearly a religious fanatic' is also without foundation.

Then, how about his statement: "If you are not 100% certain that GWB was an abject failure as a President and a crazy religious fanatic, you are seriously delusional and committed to following a Neo-Con ideology like a sheep."

This is an IF-THEN 'logical format'. But it's illogical because there's no logical or empirical link between the two sentences. And, there's no proof of the premises, the claims about Bush that BTJ makes. Just his personal opinion.

I always find it puzzling why the left never engages in fact-based and logical discussions but always resorts to totally subjective emotional opinions, misinformation, false claims and name-calling.

Giving a Nobel Peace Prize to Obama BEFORE he accomplished ANYTHING is beyond delusional.

I miss Bush, too. Thanks for the post.

"Giving a Nobel Peace Prize to Obama BEFORE he accomplished ANYTHING is beyond delusional."

Of course it is, no one said differently. To bash Bush is not to support Obama...they are both tools of the status quo...they both continued US policy from where their predecessor left it. Neither should be welcomed, neither should ever be missed.

You know who I miss? I miss Ron Paul, I miss watching the last Republican Primaries and listening to Ron Paul tear apart the entire stage, destroy Guliani, destroy McCain, destroy Romney. I miss my brain.

"Wow, Kathryn, tell me you're joking. Might I suggest doing some reading some time?"

I have. Article One, Section Eight of the United States Constitution says "The Congress shall have power...To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water"

What else should I read?

""The Congress shall have power...To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water""

Who declared the war? Congress or the President?

"What else should I read?"

International law perhaps, being that the US is the self appointed leader of the free world. Or does that mean they only have to abide by it when it suits my interests?

I want to share some facts with you. These are hidden truths that affect us all. So, without further ado, I present you with this all-important piece of information: Even BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton's least contentious hirelings supplement their already-generous incomes by selling contraband on the black market. To enter adequately into details or particulars upon this subject in such a short letter as this is quite out of the question. Hence, I will only remark here, in a general way but with all the emphasis of earnestness and truth, that BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton refuses to come to terms with reality. It prefers instead to live in a fantasy world of rationalization and hallucination.

If you study BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton's prudish hypnopompic insights long enough, you'll come to the inescapable conclusion that its claim that we can stop paternalism merely by permitting government officials entrée into private homes to search for grungy criminal masterminds requires a willing suspension of disbelief, an ability to set logic aside and accept any preposterous notion that BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton throws at us. BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton thinks it would be a great idea to utilize legal, above-ground organizing in combination with illegal, underground tactics to push the State towards greater influence, self-preservation, and totalitarianism and away from civic engagement, constituent choice, and independent thought. Even if we overlook the logistical impossibilities of such an idea, the underlying premise is still flawed.

Some people say that that isn't sufficient evidence to prove that BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton is secretly scheming to create a new fundamentalism based not on religion but on an orthodoxy of credentialism. And I must agree; one needs much more evidence than that. But the evidence is there, for anyone who isn't afraid to look at it. Just look at the way that it is a fetishism-oriented demoniac. I use that label only when it's true. If you don't believe it is, then consider that BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton's practices all stem from one, simple, faulty premise—that university professors must conform their theses and conclusions to its snotty prejudices if they want to publish papers and advance their careers.

BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton's barbs are continually evolving into more and more otiose incarnations. Here, I'm not just talking about evolution in a simply Darwinist sense; I'm also talking about how BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton cannot tolerate the world as it is. It needs to live in a world of fantasies. To be more specific, I, speaking as someone who is not a petty publicity hound, have a scientist's respect for objective truth. That's why I'm telling you that if you've read any of the feral slop that BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton has concocted, you'll indisputably recall BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton's description of its plan to turn a deaf ear to need and suffering. If you haven't read any of it, well, all you really need to know is that I want my life to count. I want to be part of something significant and lasting. I want to challenge BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton to defend its projects or else to change them.

BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton's favorite tactic is known as "deceiving with the truth". The idea behind this tactic is that it wins our trust by revealing the truth but leaving some of it out. This makes us less likely to step up to the plate and listen to others. BuShChimplerMcCheneyHaliburton hates it when you say that we must stand united as free, sovereign individuals and reach the broadest possible audience with the message that it started as merely a cold-blooded twerp but quickly devolved into a materialistic rake. It really hates it when you say that. Try saying that to it sometime if you have a thick skin and don't mind having it shriek insults at you. In closing, we must do everything in our power to take steps toward creating an inclusive society free of attitudinal barriers. The fight must go on, or people will realize how retarded I am.

"International law"

Please help me out here. Which specific treaty did the US sign ceding their sovereignty to declare war to another country or international body?

" Which specific treaty did the US sign ceding their sovereignty to declare war to another country or international body?"

Article 2(4) of the UN Charter generally bans the use of force by states except when carefully circumscribed conditions are met, stating:

“All members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.”

The US basically makes or breaks most international legislature, yet they didn't even take the time to set themselves up not to do wrong.

"I Miss W."

Me too.

when the bushster was in power the lefties did everything in there power to undermine his authority plain and simple the media is driven by lefties and controled by lefties so they ruined his image as soon as they could ..and the domino's just fell ...simple nothing else to say i certainly don't think georgie boy was perfect but he was 100% better than the BIG 0

Paul in calgary

"simple nothing else to say i certainly don't think georgie boy was perfect but he was 100% better than the BIG 0"

Ya, a little too simple Paul, but thanks for the deep and informative summary nonetheless. The two of them are essentially the same entity...nothing really ever changes. What has Obama done, other than nothing but continue the usual course of US policy, that makes him so much worse than Bush?

BTJ - that article has to be one of the, if not THE, emptiest article in the utopian rhetoric of the UN.

First, you cannot have sovereign states cede their right of defense. That necessity, which happens to be embedded in the US Constitution, takes priority over any international agreement. Why? Because the sovereign state and its constitution takes priority over any non-sovereign situation. Unless and until there are NO sovereign states, then that article is meaningless.

There is absolutely no reason to cede sovereignty to the corrupt, non-elected decision-makers of the UN.

The Iraq War, as I've said before, will go down in history as one of the best decisions of the last decade. Bush recognized that the sole cause of Islamic fascism is the refusal of the Islamic states to modernize and enable a middle class to have economic and political power, i.e., democracy. He enabled Iraq to move out of dictatorship and into democracy, hoping that this movement would diffuse to the other ME nations.

Obama, with his refusal to acknowledge the demonstrations for democracy of the people of Iran and his enabling Iran to obtain nuclear weapons and move its imperialist agenda into other ME nations - is harming this agenda of freedom.

No, BTJ, a religious fanatic is not defined as someone who openly states that he believes that god guides his decisions and that he believes in god. The pope says the same thing; is he a fanatic? No, he is a man of faith and committed to his faith.

A religious fanatic, - and there's no real objective definition - refers to those who reject objective reality as causal of anything and insist that all events are metaphysically caused (by god). Did Bush deny the reality of the economy? Did he institute tax cuts or call on god to provide for the people? Did he deny the reality of Islamic fascism and sit back and call on god to deal with it?

Oh - and the president cannot declare war without the approval of Congress. Congress approved the Iraq War. It has zilch to do with the UN.

By the way - do you think you could try for a rational, reasoned, empirically grounded argument or is all you can do is invective, insult-filled, name-calling attitude-filled rants? Hmmm?

Yes, it might be possible if not probable that, as you say, people will realize how retarded you are. You actually admit it. Hmm.

There's no such thing as an illegal war when dealing with animals. Does anyone think 'negotiating' with Iran, Iraq (in the past) or North Korea would result in any sort of happy medium?

The isn't much sense in the UN declaring that you must abide by Marquiss of Queensbury rules when the other guy opens the match with a swift kick to the nads.

Bush's administration did the right thing on that one. He was far from perfect, but at least he wasn't hell bent on bankrupting the country for a shallow set of ideals.

Name the foremost problem facing the US. Illegal immigration leading to the democratic takeover of several states? Servitude to the international banker controlled Federal Reserve? Islamic terrorism - where's Bin Laden and the rebuilt 9/11 site?

Bush did little of any consequence to further conserative values and save the US from ultimate ruin.

The Republican party is nothing more than an inadequate alternative to the Democrats.

O’left-liberal Democrat cuts’n'runs.

AP/MSM uses “Democrat” in headline. Amazing.

…-

“Democrat quits NH House over anti-Palin remark

A New Hampshire Democrat has quit the state legislature after cracking a joke on Facebook about Sarah Palin’s death. Rep. Timothy Horrigan of Durham posted a comment Wednesday that a “dead Palin wd be even more dangerous than a live one” and she “is all about her myth & if she was dead she cdn’t commit any more gaffes.” Horrigan apologized Thursday and resigned. He is also discontinuing his re-election campaign."

http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/12/democrat-quits-nh-house-over-anti-palin-remark/

http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2010/08/12/u-s-keeping-a-close-eye-on-tamil-ship/#comment-87715

Chucky wrote
"GW Bush is the most hated President in US history.

That's historical fact. Look it up.

Your right. No one hates more then the left and their Islamic friends. They are the masters of hate, they just reek of hate.

The right I would say do not hate Obama, they are more like disgusted with him. You do not hear of the right wishing Obama dead like is common for the left to wish Republican politicians. Re the latest after Stevens was killed many of the left were saying They wish Sarah Palin had been with him. I have yet to hear anything derogatory said about Obamas children. You can not say the same about Palins children.
So enjoy your hate club, glad I left it 19 years ago.

"that article has to be one of the, if not THE, emptiest article in the utopian rhetoric of the UN.

First, you cannot have sovereign states cede their right of defense."

You can't agree upon rules of war? It's too much to ask the international community to not start wars of aggression?

I mean it's not like it stopped the US from attacking Iraq, whom they supported with money and weapons for 4 decades +.

Why did the US sign it then?

"Bush recognized that the sole cause of Islamic fascism is the refusal of the Islamic states to modernize and enable a middle class to have economic and political power,"

And what does that have to do with Iraq again? Iraq is one of the most modern ME countries, and as modern as the US has allowed them to be.

"He enabled Iraq to move out of dictatorship and into democracy"

Haha, right....they were in a 'dictatorship' controlled by the US and now they're in a 'democracy' ruled by the US...what a transition.

"Obama, with his refusal to acknowledge the demonstrations for democracy of the people of Iran and his enabling Iran to obtain nuclear weapons and move its imperialist agenda into other ME nations - is harming this agenda of freedom."

The US has been propping up Iran for decades too...ignoring people wanting democracy is the norm for US policy..it's nothing new.

"Oh - and the president cannot declare war without the approval of Congress. Congress approved the Iraq War."

No, congress approved legislature that gave the president power to declare war.

"No, BTJ, a religious fanatic is not defined as someone who openly states that he believes that god guides his decisions and that he believes in god. The pope says the same thing; is he a fanatic?"

Yes he is, of course he is.

"there's no real objective definition"

Ah, of course not...that makes it easier to argue doesn't it? How about someone who believes God speaks to them and guides them on missions, someone who makes decisions that require reasoning based on what 'God' told them in a dream? How about when said decisions concern the life or death of thousands of other people? Is that reasonable enough?

"Does anyone think 'negotiating' with Iran, Iraq"

You have no idea as to the history of the US and the ME do you? Just what you saw in some news clips over the decades right?

God bless George Bush!

Who cares what the sheeple think!

Bush never left. He put on a lot of blackface and got speaking lessons. He also learned how to appear intelligent and then changed his name to Barack Obama. Okay, that could never happen, Bush was far too stupid to pull that off.

GWB was a top shelf president IMO. To those who think otherwise, I respectfully disagree.

BTJ:
It's apparent that you "troll" this site baiting others to engage in arguments with you, so I'll bite. I don't think Bush was a particularily good president in many ways but do think he made the correct decision to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. In some way you must agree since Hussein in particular almost daily flouted the UN/International law which you seem so fond of. But mainly what I would like to know is what you read. You regularly condescend to others for not reading so please recommend some material to enlighten all of of us(but please no Chomsky).

One thing Bush had over Obama. He was an American through & through. Obama is a Global Citizen.

I believe it was Abe Lincoln who said that he'd sooner lose the election with the military vote, than win without it. It was the military that pulled Bush through in his second term. Barak will never win or lose with that vote. Missing George W!

I wish it was possible to divide the country between those who want Obama and those who do not. It has become that simple.

I think those who opt out of Obamaville will flourish. The others will be left screaming their hateful platitudes ... until there is nothing for them to eat.

V: spare me your attempts at engaging me in conversation. Idiots like me are only good for trolling, and I hope I have your blood pressure strokingly high. Amazing how easy it is to catch fish-brains with very little bait on the hook. Oh, and how did you like my other little identities... got this thread going for a long long time. ;-)

Bush was the real deal like him or not. That trait seems hard to find in the average person let alone a politician.

In the wake of the recent violence in Afghanistan, U.S. intelligence agencies confessed to having warned Native American authorities that an attack was imminent.

Well, too little, too late, fellas. If the so-called "terrorists" had known that Bush was listening in on their phone calls, they probably would've called the whole thing off weeks ago. But the Shrub kept it all a big secret, and now hundreds of innocent people are dead - including the so-called "terrorists".

This was this problem inherent with Bush's domestic spying program as well. Even if he was actually eavesdropping on so-called "terrorists" and not on working families, the shroud of secrecy surrounding such a scheme wouldn't discourage any attacks. In fact, it would instill so-called "terrorists" with a sense of confidence that their plotting had gone undetected. Bush may think he's saving lives by spying on so-called "terrorists" without their knowledge, but he's really just setting us all up for another Mumbai.

Oh well. When Obama assumed the throne, Bush's high crimes became a thing of the past...as will that distinctive clicking sound I hear in the background whenever Nancy Pelosi and I are having phone sex.

"It's apparent that you "troll" this site baiting others to engage in arguments with you, so I'll bite. "

It's not about that, when I read a comment that I feel is spreading misinformation or has expressed an opinion that I don't agree with and would like to debate, then I post, if I read the blog thread and agree, then I'll post accordingly, if I have some comment about the blog topic then I'll post. That's what constructive conversation consists of, not just adding to the already deafening echo chamber of collective opinion.

"In some way you must agree since Hussein in particular almost daily flouted the UN/International law which you seem so fond of."

No, I don't agree whatsoever with the invasion of Iraq. If the US was unhappy with what Hussein was up to they shouldn't have funded him and directed him to do half the crap he did.

Bush = Class
Obama = Crass

"You have no idea as to the history of the US and the ME do you? Just what you saw in some news clips over the decades right?"

Actually, I have a fairly decent understanding of the history of the ME - especially vis a vis the US component. And I agree that US foreign policy hasn't been consistent (I'm reading between the lines and ad hominem attacks here).

Oh, and BTW BTJ, my blood pressure is just peachy thank you. Laughter is great therapy and your insistent delusions so obviously documented in the above thread are quite comical. Thanks for the entertainment! :-)

It's cool BTJ, sometimes I just like to check. But I was perilously close to reading about this international law you speak of...

BTJ:

Just to respond to your earlier point about the separation of church and state.

The purpose of that clause was to ensure individuals had religious freedom and that the state would not impose an official religion on the populace.

Many of the founding fathers had come from European nations which did, in fact, allowed the state to impose religions.

The reason the US did become the world's shining beacon is that it did protect an individual's right to express himself ... and much of the truths that the country's laws have been based on are, in fact, based on Christian values.

Although the phrase ‘separation of church and state' appears nowhere in the constitution, it has been understood as a protection from a tyrannical state's imposition of an unwanted religion upon the populace.

For examples, see many failed systems throughout history.

Trolls hijacking another thread. Too bad.

Look at it this way:

You go to the pie shop and realize that you only have enough money for one slice of pie. Then in walks Bill Gates who proceeds to buy all the pies and leaves you standing there completely pieless. Is that fair? Why does he get all the pies? Shouldn't he be made to share some of his pies instead of hording them all? Socialism says "YES, everyone is entitled to a piece of the pie! For now on, all pie shops will be under the control of The People, and The People will decide how to distribute the pies fairly and equitably."

Imagine a world where, instead of walking into a pie shop and hoping, PRAYING you have enough money for one itty bitty little piece of pie, you simply put your name on a waiting list for the priviledge to go before a special commitee, who will carefully determine how deserving you are of pie, and will then give you a slice of pie FOR FREE!!!!! Never again will anyone have to pay for pie, and never again will one man be able to horde ALL the pie. No more will people compete to get more pie than their neighbor. Everyone will be entitled to exactly the same amount of pie, with the exception of the People on the Pie Committee, who will get extra pie because they wear party pins.

How do you get a party pin? Well, you have to join the Party, and that will cost you a fee of 100 pies. Then you have to be approved by the party leader, MOI, and I don't like the shape of your nose. In fact, I think you're being greedy by coming around and asking for pie all the time when the People are starving in the streets. "I want pie! I want pie! ME ME ME ME ME!!!!" You are putting your needs above the needs of The People, and that just won't do. Your selfish attitude is harmful to The People, and you're the reason everyone is starving. It's because of YOU that there aren't enough pies to go around. The only way we're going to make this a perfect Socialist Utopia is if we put a stop to big-nosed, pie-stealing scum like you sabotaging the system! THE PEOPLE MUST BE CLEANSED OF YOUR DISEASE!!!! GET ON THE BOXCAR!!!! NOW!!!!

So the next time some right-wing extemist asks if you're a socialist, just smile and say, "I like pie"

Blown gasket.

Hey dudes

We "lefties" must be really getting up your noses if you need to assume our pseudonyms to make nonsensical posts to 'sully' us somehow (?)

I know that the Kennebunkport aristocrat with the fake drawling accent you slavishly supported for eight years as he waged two failed wars, plunged the country into Grest Depression II and left office as the most hated president in history is hard for you to defend - and I know you don't like these facts but...

Facts are facts. The Republicans in the US know it - that's why the'd rather be drawn and quartered than ever mention Bush's name again.

The American people know it. That's why by the end of his term 80% of the people rejected him.

By definition you guys are a fringe group. You're out of touch with reality.

As for the claim that Bush did a good thing in Africa 'cause Geldof and Bono said so: the fact is that because Bush insisted that 10% of the money go to abstinence training - rather than sex education - more harm was done. Stephen Lewis himself has said that this hypocritical and dangerously impractical position actually caused more infections to occur.

So: sorry to even deprive you of one good thing Bush could be seen to have done (according to millionaire rock stars) -- but --- this too is a fact.

"Short-circuiting the long-established principles of patient negotiation leads to war, not peace." - Jimmy Carter

On this 99th birthday of the Anti-Christ, Gipper-worshipping dittoheads across the blogosphere are squawking like lovesick parrots about how "Reagan won the cold war". But history will reveal the real truth - the man who actually won the cold war was none other than the 39th president of the United States, James Earl Carter.

Carter strongly suspected that the Soviet Union might be a bully. From his grade school years, Carter also knew that the best way to deal with a bully is to make yourself very small and hope they don't notice you. Failing that, offer them your lunch money. Whatever you do, do NOT confront them - it will only make them angrier. Meekly submitting to a wedgie is better than getting a bloody nose. And perhaps in time, the bully will realize you're no threat and let you pal around with him. Carter applied this policy of détente to his dealings with the Soviet Union.

The French word for "I'm your bitch", détente with the Soviets was the dreamchild of Henry Kissinger and Tricky Dick Nixon. But it was future nobel laureate, Jimmy Carter, who perfected it to an artform. When the Soviets began rattling their nuclear sabres in the 70's, Carter cut national defense in order to make us seem less threatening. When the Soviets appeared unmoved by his overtures of peace, Carter offered them an olive branch in the form of the Panama Canal, Nicaragua, Taiwan, Ethiopia, Korea, Yemen, Angola, Kampuchea, and Afghanistan. He was in the process of handing them all of Eastern Europe when he was cruelly tossed out of office by the Moral Majority.

However, Carter's refusal to confront the USSR set the wheels in motion for its eventual collapse. Lured into a false sense of superiority, the Soviets overextended themselves, spreading their influence across the globe in much the same way the Roman Empire did. If allowed to continue on such a course, the Soviet Union would quietly fade away in just a few hundred years. All Reagan did was speed up the process by forcing the "evil empire" into an arms race.

By standing up to the Soviets and forcing them in to an arms race, Reagan brought the world to the brink of nuclear annihilation. If it weren't for Sting's visionary Russians single soothing the tensions between the two world powers, I would very likely be typing this blog from a fallout shelter today. We owe him, and Jimmy Carter, a deep debt of gratitude.

"Actually, I have a fairly decent understanding of the history of the ME - especially vis a vis the US component."

You don't show it.

"And I agree that US foreign policy hasn't been consistent"

You read backwards...I said it clear as day...US foreign policy has been consistent...consistently in-line with the protection of US interests...the greatest of which has been ME oil...once called 'the greatest prize of all'.

"Oh, and BTW BTJ, my blood pressure is just peachy thank you."

Don't be so easily fooled by impersonators. You can trust that I won't waver from rational discussion.

"Just to respond to your earlier point about the separation of church and state.

The purpose of that clause was to ensure individuals had religious freedom and that the state would not impose an official religion on the populace."

It doesn't matter what the reasoning was, all that matters is the result...the Industrial Revolution and the greatest time of discovery and ingenuity man has ever accomplished.

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't use my pseudonym in a pathetic attempt to undermine my character.

After reading all these posts one can arrive at only one conclusion,being left really is a mental disorder.

So T has added a BJ to his nom de guerre and come up with BTJ. If I was a Freudian, I would say that is absolutely Freudian!

Ok BTJ, I give up. You are the mostest smartest guy ever in the whole wide world!

BTJ,

Who pays you to post about 50 comments a day on conservative sites?

I doubt you are real.

I mean,
you may really believe some of the things you say but you sound like someone who is paid to act very lefty.

Like people who are hired to go to lefty protests and shout at conservatives, they do not sound or act »authentic».

So who pays you BTJ?

Because obviously you are not here to win the debate but to wear us down.

Just as Acorn people wore down the resistence of bankers to loan money to people who could not afford a mortgage.

Yup your tactic smells of Acorn.

That is why you shift goal post in every comment.

You are not here to debate, you are here to do a job; wear us down.

So who pays you ?

Dear Chuck,

Where was the other 90% Congress, not Bush, allocated spent? Are you implying that a mere 10% somehow plunged the continent into sexual, political, moral, ethical, and economic despair?

Aids and other infectious diseases, like central planning and the Revolution, all spawn like tadpoles on a summer pond. Almost overnight in fact. For the moment however I will pretend that in fact it takes longer, a few weeks, months, years, maybe even decades or centuries, to plunge a continent into such a dismal situation, decades that also saw many Democratic administrations come and go, including the first Negro Bill Clinton.

But for the sake of argument, I will pretend that before the 4 short years or so when what you refer to happened (e.g. Bush) Africa was a paradise of milk and honey that we all craved for. I will also pretend that it did not take months to create and pass the bill to send money across the Atlantic, months before the checks were cut, and months before the first deviant person showed up on the shores of the Dark Continent to say - 'If you don't have sex, you don't have to worry about a bug that will eat away your brain or destroy your kids lives before they have a chance to live?'

Is that what you are talking about? If so then I must disagree. Bush is not responsible for every problem, every depravity, every disgusting situation that exists in the world. I would suggest that you examine the local leaders and morays of the tribe you wish to defend. But I forget, Bush was President. And like Obama, must have been a god to do all that is claimed for his actions. Hell, feel comfortable believing Bush is responsible for all you find wrong in the world,even those despicable factories in Britain 100+ years ago before the man was born. I'm contacting Steven Hawking tonight. We should change the Big Bang theory to the Big Bush.

I have a suggestion. We should spend 0% in the continent and see what happens. Would that please you? It would me and my local school district.

Better yet, lets examine history before Bush was elected and draw conclusions on how pathetic the continent was then. It must piss you off that the hey-day of Africa died over 5,000 years ago with the Egyptians before anyone surnamed Bush was baptized in Europe. You know that time when slavery was prevalent before the USA was created? Ask the Jews if you don't, they will fill you in. And certainly before the man himself, Bush, twisted arms to send billions of other people's money that way a few years ago.

What say you? If the continent had developed differently, long before the dreaded white compassionate republican showed up, would your post be relevant?

No, it would not. That Bush is somehow responsible for the depraved condition of the billion souls in Africa is comical. I think you are not laughing.

I miss my brain.

Posted by: BTJ at August 12, 2010 6:31 PM

Too bad you didn't have an war amps key tag attached to that missing brain, it would have been returned to you.

The total delight of these young men and women seeing President Bush there to greet them should tell the entire story.

Of course that's why the violent response from certain posters; the visual evidence totally contradicts their world view and narrative. Too bad the evidence does not cause them to reexamine their narratives or wonder why things don't support what they have been told to believe....

I am nostalgic more every day for Dubya. I think it is obvious that the only thing that occurred in his administration that the country could not overcome was democrat control of congress.

Take any economic chart and start on the day Pelosi took that gavel. From that point on, the descent has been dramatic, and has led us right to Obamaville.

There was a time, back before Bush's Reign of Terror, when groups of sweaty, Middle Eastern males could chant “Allahu Ackbar” in a crowded airport without attracting so much as a second glance from fellow travellers. It appears those days are long gone. That’s the lesson six Muslim holy men learned in 2007 when they were forcibly removed from United Airways Flight 300 flight for attempting to turn a typically boring experience into a fun-filled and educational adventure for everyone.

No one knows for sure why the passengers of Flight 300 were so nervous about flying with Muslims. It's truly a mystery. But the whole thing stinks worse than human flesh being consumed by burning jet fuel to me. As an American, I’m embarassed and ashamed for the way the Imams were treated. I imagine they must’ve felt a little like the Muslim passengers of United Airlines Flight 93, whose private moment of quiet prayer was rudely interrupted by intolerant Americans pounding on the cockpit door.

Todd Beamer and his Merry Band of Bigots may have escaped justice, but the nameless John and Jane Does of Flight 300 won’t get off so easy. Lawsuits are currently being filed against those who reported the befuddled Imams to the airport gestapo. It’s not about the money, though. It’s not even about teaching people to think twice before inconveniencing any Muslim travellers who just happen to be gleefully slashing a flight attendant’s throat open with a box cutter in accordance with the Holy Quran. It’s about insuring that all fliers, Muslim and and non-Muslim alike, are treated fairly and equally by everyone, right up until the moment the plane hits the ground.

A few years ago, maybe 3 or 4 you may have seen on the news a video of a young man high on something. This guy stole a bait car. The video showed his wild behaviour behind the wheel.

Seems one poster here is on a similiar trip.

ET @ 6:09,
Because the left lacks the cognitive skills required for independent rational thought.

Their cogntive existense is a sad miasma, an emotional broth of feelings of helplessness and free floating random anxiety.

That angst energy gets projected as hate onto those approved by their 'betters'(teachers, profs, jourNOlist, etc) as ok to hate. This is reasuring to this overwhelmed-by-reality crowd, they are soothed by the comforting feeling of belonging to a perceieved superior group through hating the other.

It shows itself in abundance in their postings, and their self delusion is working because it is dressed up in the falso guise of superior motives, and so justifies behaviour they otherwise would disapprove of in others.

Ever notice the people in the back ground of a BUSH photo, how natural they look?

I leave for a few weeks and when I come back there appears to be a few new trolls. I thought the rule was not to feed them? Doesn't anyone follow the rules anymore?

Oh Yeah. God BLESS George Bush, all his wonderful family and those great troops that keep the trolls free to sound off like the scumbags they prove themselves to be.

Chuck and BTJ,

I'm curious; whats the name of the self hypnosis mp3's that you listen to on your Ipod?

Our family experienced the joyful ongoing results of the real life application BTJ's pie analogy for 70 years in the Soviet Union.

The trolls here found their issue to beat. They will never try to learn more about the context of all the issues where they believe Bush was a bad, evil man. They will never give him credit for what he has done or the benefit of the doubt for the events he could not control or change. There are excellent posts on this thread defending Bush, but the trolls will not address any of those. They will just regurgitate their talking points, or come up with new ones.

They hate. And they follow. They believe Hollywood's version of conservatives, Christians and Americans because they are intellectual light-weights with a need to feel superior, and to belong to "approved" groups. They are the losers in the class who weren't good at anything except being toadies to the bullies as they slavishly cried "like me, like me! I'm cool, too!"

The pockets of sanity in Canada and the U.S., the conservative-and-libertarian-minded souls, do win the day sometimes against. Remember that wonderful feeling when Bush won in November, 2004? It'll come again. Hang in there.

And Bush is doing just fine. Just seeing his face these days heartens one. I've never known another politician to be so at peace with himself, and so NOT in need of the adulation and adoration of the "approved" set. The haters will pass on and history will be good to his legacy.

BTJ,

There is nowhere in the U.S.constitution that refers to "the separation of church and state".
Nothing. Zero. It simply indicates that the government shall not sponsor a religion. This was in fact to protect religion from the government.....to ensure that government never has ownership over a particular religion.

I think that is a great photo of GWB. It summarizes the man to a "T". By the way, I believe that lady's smile is genuine, too!

"Who pays you to post about 50 comments a day on conservative sites?"

I was going to ask you the same thing.

"I doubt you are real."

That's right...I'm just a computer generated poster :-S

"So who pays you ?"

Who pays me? Who pays people to write fake, retarded, and oh so unfunny responses using the name BTJ? This is like debating with grade school children. You can call yourself whatever you like, conservative, republican..anything you wish..it doesn't mean a damn thing when it comes to your views on issues, your philosophy, your knowledge, and your general contribution. If you don't have an individualist, conservative philosophy, it shines through bright as can be when an issue comes up and you post your thoughts...doesn't matter what you call yourself, or what a group of people with the same opinion call themselves.

"paid to act very lefty."

Haha...and what is 'lefty'?

"
"The total delight of these young men and women seeing President Bush there to greet them should tell the entire story.

Of course that's why the violent response from certain posters; the visual evidence totally contradicts their world view and narrative. "

Should it really? The look on the faces of soldiers as they just get back from months in the desert should tell you everything you should know about the person who greets them? That has got to be one of the most ridiculous statements you could possibly have made. Facts are facts, GWB was a horrible president.

" the only thing that occurred in his administration that the country could not overcome was democrat control of congress."

Right, oh, and those wars, and the looming economic meltdown...oh right, and then there was Katrina...but no, other than that they did a bang up job.

"Their cogntive existense is a sad miasma, an emotional broth of feelings of helplessness and free floating random anxiety."

I think it's cute when some of you get really creative and use some interesting language to describe vapid thoughts, but at the same time the thought of the empty feeling of satisfaction you clearly get leaves me with a feeling of pity.

"They will never try to learn more about the context of all the issues where they believe Bush was a bad, evil man. They will never give him credit for what he has done or the benefit of the doubt for the events he could not control or change"

Actually I've read a good deal on the US during Bush, what is this knowledge you posses that makes it obvious that he did good? Please, share away...share all these great accomplishments.

"Remember that wonderful feeling when Bush won in November, 2004?"

Wow, does watching an election get stolen really feel that good? Just because your side won? Don't you find it kind of, well, hypocritical when you bash others for clinging to a group and then the next paragraph you identify yourself with a group?

"Just seeing his face these days heartens one."

Haha, ann, please, get out more!

"There is nowhere in the U.S.constitution that refers to "the separation of church and state"."

Those exact words are not in it, no, but the separation of church and state is CLEARLY referred to:

Article Six - 'no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.'

First Amendment - 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.'

The SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE...what does that mean to you? That the state cannot interfere with religion and vice versa?

The state cannot impose an official religion on the populace.

Individuals are free to practise whatever religion they'd like.

Pretty simple, really.

"Pretty simple, really."

Ya, to sum it up, the separation of church and state.

Someone with the time to respond to each and every sentence in this thread that he takes issue with needs tells us to get a life?

Let me guess. You don't even have a job, and are living off of conservative tax payers (fascist capitalists that we are).

Bush is gone. He's out of politics. We just miss him, the way trolls here no doubt pine for Clinton and would defend everything that man did, down to his sexual harassment of women. Your need to keep putting him down is pathetic.

We miss Bush, and appreciate him, and defend him against left-wing girly men who hates and feels threatened by any conservative guy who hunts, chops wood on his ranch, and is going to watch "Expendables" instead of "Eat Pray Love" this weekend.

Even Julia Roberts would choose Bush over you when the chips are down, girly man.

Liberal men are just so icky.

Judging by his extremist positions against abortion and gay marriage, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the Pope is a hatemonger as well. Quoting from an ancient text, the leader of the most barbaric religion in the history of the world accused Islam of being "evil", and "inhuman". Once again, Catholics have demonstrated that they just can't get out of the Dark Ages.

Muslims are a deeply sensitive people and their feelings are easily hurt, but Islamist leaders across the world took to the airwaves and beseeched their followers to refrain from acts of violence and instead walk the path of peace. Although the pontiff’s words were reminiscent of Hitler back before he redeemed himself by killing 6 million Jews in an imaginary Holocaust, they were only words and no excuse for harming innocents. Once an appropriate amount of churches had been burned and enough nuns brutally gunned down, Muslims and infidels could co-exist in peace and harmony.

The Pope, on the other hand, seems determined to start a Holy War. His half-assed apology was too little, too late, and didn’t include anywhere near the amount of groveling Muslims have grown to expect from Europeans. Nor did he mention that he was willing to accept punishment for his cruel attack on the peacelove Muslim peoples. Under Sharia law, anyone who even indirectly implies that Islam is anything less than "peachy keen" can only be forgiven once they’ve been decapitated, disemboweled, and then trampled to death by a herd of unwashed goats. The Pope is probably too much of a bigot to accept such an olive branch, but there is an alternative. He could convert to Islam.

I know he’s got it pretty good with this Holy See gig. He's got a big house, a fancy car, and more money than he knows what to do with. But the Pope should try thinking about someone besides himself for a change.

The meek shall inherit the earth. Turn the other cheek. Do unto others. Love will keep us together. These are more than just Captain & Tennille hits. They are words torn from the pages of the Bible - words that self-described "Christians" claim to live by, and words that were conveniently forgotten when a Right-Wing Evangelical fascist gunned down an emotionally distraught man in a Colorado Springs Megachurch. Colorado Springs is only 823 miles from the George Bush Intercontinental Airport.

"I was praying to God that He direct me," the proselytizing assassin Jeanne Assam confessed to reporters. "God made me strong."

How much easier it is to murder someone in cold blood when you have God on your side. It's the same mentality that encouraged armed Christians to slaughter 4,000 inner city blacks in a little place called Jonestown, just 6,548 miles from the George Bush Intercontinental Airport. It's the same religious lunacy that sparked the Holy Crusades, fueled the Spanish Inquisition, justified the slaughter of over 8 million indigenous Americans, and kept Touched by an Angel on the air for nine whole seasons.

Christians are supposed to turn their swords into plowshares, but they have instead fused their faith with the NRA and the GOP to create an American Taliban full of gun-toting Bible freaks who quote scripture and open fire on anyone who proudly expresses his burning hatred for the Christian religion. It's only a matter of time before Assam and her fellow jackboots start going around door-to-door, killing any liberal democrat they can find while Shrub watches approvingly from his stolen throne.

Was the man that Assam murdered mentally disturbed? Perhaps. Did he hate Christians? Who Doesn't? But did he deserve to be executed by a militant Jesus freak? Absolutely not. In a perfect world, Assam would be locked up instead of lionized. Unfortunately, she has about as much of a chance of being brought up on charges as I have of walking on the moon.

The moon is approximately 238,857 miles from the George Bush Intercontinental Airport.

"Bush is gone. He's out of politics. We just miss him, the way trolls here no doubt pine for Clinton "

So you're perfectly content with being on the same level as liberal trolls? You're no different, you just pine for a different status quo supporting tool. You still identify with a collective, you still cling to that collective for strength. Conservative does not equal individualist.

A REAL individual and a REAL conservative would see that the last 4 decades of US government have had the same agenda, to support the status quo and protect the interests of that status quo. US policy has been very stagnant and homogeneous no matter what party hold the presidency.

BTJ, you are hilarious! ROTFLMAO!

This is part of some comedy project, right?

Just for Laughs, Comedy Central or something, right?

Do you have a website?

Please, rant on!

I'm proud to be no different from Bush supporters, in that I supported and like GWB.

"Collective"? Nope. That's lib mentality. Conservatives agree on somethings and disagree on other things without hating each other. We can have lively discussions, disagree about something, and walk away still friends, because our sense of self does not depend on the approval of others. We like ourselves. We're true individuals. GWB is like that. He was decent and classy in his behaviour, even to his political opponents who vilified him constantly.

You, on the other hand, would never dare to utter anything outside correct liberal-think. Wanna be a brave dissenter at a liberal wine-and-cheese party? Say what's deep in your heart about, oh, a 40-yr-old man dating a 16-yr-old boy. Go on, try. As Kate said before, "Everyone's a liberal until some 40-year-old guy is taking YOUR son to the prom." Or say that you think abstinence is not a bad idea to encourage in young teens. You wouldn't dare to face the disapproving silence and the cold withdrawal.

You lefties self-censor so you can be in the cool crowd. You're cowards. You'll let the fashionable minority of the day, be it the LGTB crowd or an ethnic minority, utterly overrule what you feel deep inside just isn't right.

I used to be one of you. I know you. And I'm liberated from you.

I know we are told not to feed the trolls but this BTK thingy seems to feed itself.It's nice to see the genuine reactions from the soldiers seeing Bush.The funny part is the trolls guy wouldn't even cross the street to spit on them,unless they are white,then he might make the effort.

Posted by: BTJ at August 13, 2010 3:25 PM

If you hate Christians and reject Christian tenets, why do you pretend to use them to support your argument?

I have no problem admitting the great majority of human beings fall short of meeting the standards of any moral code.

That does not mean Christianity's tenets are wrong. It just demonstrates the difficulty of self-control and the failures of humanity.

As Bob Dylan sang, don't criticize what you can't understand.

BTW, I'm unsure where I could look up and learn the moral code you live by. Could you help point the way? In the spirit of trying to understand where you're coming from

I miss W too.

There is one thing that the Obama's will never have that W & Laura have in abundance..........
Class.

""Collective"? Nope. That's lib mentality. Conservatives agree on somethings and disagree on other things without hating each other."

Haha...right...no collective, yet you identify yourself with some group you define yourself and call 'conservatives'. Having a collective mindset has nothing to do with agreeing, disagreeing, hating or not hating...it's about identifying yourself with some collective identity...which is rampant here.

"Posted by: BTJ at August 13, 2010 3:25 PM"

That's clearly not this BTJ genius...if you can't tell the difference between my writing and that nonsense then you clearly aren't reading and processing very much, rather you're just reacting.

"There is one thing that the Obama's will never have that W & Laura have in abundance..........
Class."

Haha...riiiight...cause it takes class to pick your nose and flip tv camera's the bird...oh, and the classiest behavior of all has got to be the mispronunciation of any word that isn't in the average 10th grader's vocabulary. Ya, Bush is a classy fellow alright...the silver spoon fed, rich boy, do nothing and always get by class.

flip tv camera's the bird

"tv camera is the bird"??

I is a genius. Can suck dick now on dead thread?

BTJ,

Since despite all your effort you have not managed to convince ANY of us that Bush is undeserving of our respect, I guess BTJ stands for,

Blew The Job ( you were sent to do )

Blow?

Job?

YES, my favorite!!

Cans I blow you?

Ah, it's like I'm in grade 9 all over again!

Quite the dead thread if it's still getting posts. I get a bit of a kick out of the fact that a thread on GWB gets lit up when the obvious is stated, I am a twat.

Once again regarding Ayn Rand...do you honestly think that she would be anything but sick to her stomach if she viewed this blog and saw that her work was being mixed with this crap?