an "unchangeable" or "inescapable" aspect of the victim.

You mean like socialist (as in limited mental capacity)?

I get the feeling that this crap could get a lot worse before it gets any better. I'm hoping that if the US has a complete turnaround and drops all it's identity politics we would have a good chance of dropping ours. I doubt we can rein this in on our own.

I just read the piece in the National Post and I don't know what they are talking about. I don't understand the application of whatever it is that is now supposed to a hate crime.

Calling any woman who is not a Jew as Shiksa is supposed to be bad? How so? What the hell does this mean?

Who is doing this and who is pissed about it? I am very confused about this level of abstraction in the political correct world of Toronto.

Can someone explain to me what is the problem here. I truly don't understand what I just read.

I can't wait to be included in the victim group! Hope whoever offends me has deep pockets.

Many of us said the Hate Crimes law was bad legislation leading to the edge of the famous slippery slope,this article proves it.

As said on weekend update in the 70's

"Today, the UN passed a resolutionequating zionism with racism.

Upon hearing this Sammy Davis Jr said, " Great, now I can hate myself." "

Farber.

Jerusalem may have its Wailing Wall, but Toronto's got it's Wailing Wallah.

"All in the Family: Archie and the Editorial (#3.1)" (1972)

Good evening, everybody. This here is Archie Bunker of 704 Hauser Street, veteran of the big war, speaking on behalf of guns for everybody. Now, question: what was the first thing that the Communists done when they took over Russia? Answer: gun control. And there's a lot of people in this country want to do the same thing to us here in a kind of conspiracy, see. You take your big international bankers, they want to - whaddya call - masticate the people of this here nation like puppets on the wing, and then when they get their guns, turn us over to the Commies.

Hate is a normal human emotion. Criminalising
hate is as infantile as ... well, as demonising
carbon dioxide. The point of the law, prior to
the present generation of little old ladies of
all ages and sexes, was to act properly, no
matter what one felt. The rest is for children
tattling on each other on kindergarten playgrounds.

Pedophiles as a victim group?

Carried to it's logical conclusion...a convicted pedophile can get a HRC judgement against the Police and the Judiciary---the state---as a result of his conviction.

The world is indeed run by crazy people........

I love this! Liberalism collapsing under the weight of its own irrationality. Idiots being hoisted upon their own petards! Sweet!

I'm just going to get some popcorn and watch the show. This is way better than tv.

tommy douglas' master's thesis was focussed on the subset irish/french-canadian ....describes their predilection for fornication drunkenness and being on the dole.....and how they were an ideal example of how eugenics could play a salutary role in ridding society of worthless parasitical folks like them...

since i are a member of that particular class of victims i just want to say that tommy douglas was horrid and mean to say the things he said...and i feel...i feel...i feel less somehow...it makes me want to have a drink to feel better....and if tommy was standing before me i'd clock him one...yessir i would...

Shiksa is offensive and meant to be a disparaging remark directed at a non-Jewish female. Doubt there are very many Jews calling non-Jewish girls/women Shiksas in this day and age, but you won't know until the first one makes a complaint.
Compare it to Don Imus and what he called the black team.

This is beginning to sound like a bunch of kids running to their mommies, but I guess with the lefties in charge that's what you get.

No one can feel diminished by another human being, and I'm all for that, but it starts with feeling secure in who you are. The cure for all the insecurity going around these days is to realize that other people have more problems than you have and, for God's Sake, quit whining.

Ever told a Liverpudlian that you have Irish blood in your veins? Then you don't know what an insult is. :))

Hate crime laws belong to the same family and thought police and state re-education programs and have no place in a free society practising the rule of law and due process. A crime is a crime and all crimes must be treated equally before the law.

It only makes sense Sasq.

Since pedophilia and homosexuality are by scientific definition the same thing(perhaps not morally) it is inevitable that pedophiles will demand human Rights protection; and will likely get it. I've argued for some time that the homosexual lobby has made a grave error playing the "I was born this way" card. By successfully using this argument to justify a victimless deviant behaviour, the genie has left the bottle and the precedence is set for all groups that are “born that way” to capitalize. The fact that homosexual behaviour between two adults harms nobody becomes a moot point when the root causes of the deviant behaviour take precedence; so, logically the fact that a pedophiles relationship with a child inflicts terrible harm on the child is also moot, because of the aforementioned “root causes”.

In my view, the homosexual lobby would be more respectable if their argument had simply been one of: Responsibility. That argument being "it's my choice, and it's none of your business what two ADULTS do in the bedroom". I’d have called it the "Personal Liberty" card. Of course this would eliminate the built-in victim hood angle, as they would no longer be a victim of nature, hormones, or homophobes. Nope, responsibility dictates that you’re responsible for your choices, not a victim of your circumstances.

Oh yeah, don't forget the "stimulus" factor. Don't forget how much C.R.E.A.M. is pumped into the public sector when there is a growing community of stimulated sexual predators.

Cash Rules Everything Around Me

I vote for "Wigger" as the next victim group.

So Blacks don't count because they potentially could straighten their hair and lighten their skin?

Can I complain to the HRC if some young punk calls me 'Pops'? Or can he complain because I refer to him as a punk? Being a punk is an immutable attribute.

What Alain said at May 17, 2010 12:24 PM.

Everything else is a distraction, a diversion.
A deliberate diversion? The very notion of hate crimes is antithetical to a free society. You get punished for the crime, for its severity; how you felt about the victim should be immaterial.

There should be no such thing as thought crime.

My son told my wife that one of his friends at school called her a "MILF" After he explained to her what it meant.

Should she be:

a) Offended?

b) Or somewhat flattered?

I thought ANY crime was a hate crime. After all, isn't murder the ultimate hatred of a man?
We're not even diluting the definition of "crime" or "hate crime" at this point. We are throwing away common sense and justice to satisfy childishness.

I'm not sure if this is O/T or not, but in a classroom today I heard a grade-two student (probably 7) say to the French teacher, after the French teacher had praised another girl for her grasp of French, "I'm offended by that."

The French teacher, being much younger than I, entertained the miffed student's being offended and simply explained that she was trying to encourage the student who was showing her aptitude in the language and, certainly, wasn't criticizing other students..

We're really in trouble when our seven-year-olds start being "offended" when their egos aren't stroked.

Batb, children learn from things around them. Let the offended girl learn the crap she would get into by being a self-important tattlesnake.

The National Post story demonstrates the hypocrisy of the CJC. Apparently they still want to be able to use racial pejoratives toward anyone they disapprove of, but if anyone does it to them, they want the law to clamp down. Ezra suggests the CJC is worthless (in the light of all the genuine threats to Jews today that it seems to ignore) and might as well be shut down.

I agree that there is no need for a "hate crime" law that involves speech alone. Vandalism, assault and intimidation are still criminal offenses.

batb: That deluded seven-year-old will be running the "human rights commission" in 30 years if we haven't done the right thing by getting rid of it by then.

Shawn, YOU should be flattered! :-)