Related - CNN lost “almost half” of their viewers in the last year
Of course: people love to watch crazies. Bedlam, anyone?
Posted by: Vitruvius at March 30, 2010 7:16 PMGlenn Beck constant bashing/criticism of Republicans is a turn off though.
Posted by: Winston at March 30, 2010 7:21 PMI've taken to channel surfing to MSNBC during commercials for my weekly dose of leftTarded meltdowns, so I'm guilty of propping-up the numbers of the "Others". My bad.
Posted by: Indiana Homez at March 30, 2010 7:37 PMCan't comment. Too busy watching Fox News.
Commercial break. Are the other guys still on the air? Haven't watched them for years.
Posted by: Joe at March 30, 2010 7:47 PMI get this argument, but the numbers actually show that the country is about equally divided, if you accept that all the other channels are basically liberal, and Fox is basically conservative.
Then there's the question of the conservative movement being split into all kinds of factions. The only thing they have in common is that they fear the onrushing socialism and neo-Marxism represented by the Democrats. But look at the divisions between moderates and ultra-conservatives, between libertarians and social conservatives, between Mormons and evangelicals and conservative Catholics, and then at the militia phenomenon which introduces a whole bunch of new ways to split conservatism into factions that don't get along or even communicate at all.
It makes me wish we could speed up the passage of time and get to 2012 and the Palin-Obama showdown that seems inevitable. These conservative divisions tend to disappear under strong leadership of any kind. No point in mobilizing to fight the Anti-christ if he's flipping burgers at McDonald's in 2013 (or could he get a better job do you suppose? -- not with his resume).
Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at March 30, 2010 7:49 PMAaaaahhhh! What a relief. I don't have cable, so I can't watch Fox, but I'm so happy the rest of them are going down the drain.
Posted by: Louise at March 30, 2010 8:00 PMI watch Fox 95% of the time but do like MSNBC for business coverage: they seem objective on most business related issues. Fox is a too repetitive on hot topics most of the time, IMO. But in general, Fox kicks As@$&
CNN? Irrelevant, the cheer leading squad has nothing left to do. The few times I happen to flick it on, it seems more like a small town 'hick' station, with nothing really going on and nothing cerebral to say.
Looks good on that old socialist horse Turner! The dream is over. HA!
And MessNBC? What a waste of airwaves. Surely, the moneychangers must be having fits right now at the perilous drop in viewership (lower ad rates), falling revenues. Too bad, so sad.....Have to wonder why any sane people would try to emulate the business model of the NYT?
Posted by: DanBC at March 30, 2010 8:17 PMI think most people watch Beck because they are tired of the ideological information in most of the media and seeing their freedoms being slowly being taken away. Furthermore, he also puts on a good show, bashes both Democrats and Republicans and does not get shivers up his leg like Chris Matthews.
Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at March 30, 2010 8:23 PMMark my words folks ....republicrat's or demican's to quote micheal savage they are one and the same both parties are guilty of growing govornment and deficit spending be it for war or other mostrous social fiascos like medicade or welfare or food stamps what ever sorry these may be bad examples ..."bailout's " of any kind do not bode well for tax payers ever so i really think iti s time for an independant (wishful thinking i know ) but something or a REAL hard right "C"servative palin is pushing for amnesty so that she can compete with the leftards for there votes ....man this is all down hill from here sorry folks i wish savage would just miraculously be president ...lol.
Paul in calgary
Posted by: paul at March 30, 2010 8:32 PMIf Fox was one of several conservative TV channels, the conservative watchers would be split among them, as the leftist TV channels are. I wish there was somewhere I could go to get straight news without the filter, but that ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Mystery Meat at March 30, 2010 8:36 PMI think the "almost half" of viewers lost is not CNN overall, but certain segments (and the most lucrative at that). From the NYT link:
"CNN executives have steadfastly said that they will not change their approach to prime-time programs, which are led by hosts not aligned with any partisan point of view.
"But the numbers are stark: "For the network’s longest-running host, Larry King, who has always been regarded at CNN as the centerpiece of prime time because he drew the biggest audiences at 9 p.m., the quarter was his worst ever.
"Mr. King’s audience dropped 43 percent for the quarter and 52 percent in March. He dropped to 771,000 viewers for the quarter from 1.34 million in 2009."
Posted by: WalterF at March 30, 2010 8:42 PMGlenn Beck might not be crazy. But, I'm starting to think he's getting a little too high on himself and his influence.
He's going too far in violating Reagan's 11th Commandment. I just get the feeling that if he doesn't slow down a bit and start thinking before speaking, he'll either have to be thrown under the bus or he'll simply lose touch with the base.
That he can fire up conservatives and libertarians is great. But populist movements always have a relatively short lifespan. He's gotta start thinking of the long game when it comes to conservative ideals and restoring its rightful place as the mainstay of the political scene.
Posted by: bryceman at March 30, 2010 8:55 PMI'd like to see the Canadian ratings.
BBM doesn't keep track of the Fox News numbers.
We know that the MSM in Canada have seen serious declines in their numbers which is why they're begging the CRTC and the cable industry for a handout.
The reason advertising dollars are disappearing from the "supper-hour" news is because nobody's watching.
Liberalism and a secular progressive agenda have been a business disaster for broadcasters as well as the newspaper industry.
Newspaper circulation is down to the same level it was after WW2.
But Fox News is profitable. In fact, Fox News has never made so much money.
So who's bankrolling the liberal agenda?
If a liberal "spin" is bad for business, then why do they do it?
Is everyone in the media an ideologue?
But here's the thing, Fox News has higher ratings than any of the Canadian newscasts - maybe higher than all combined.
Peter said: "if you accept that all the other channels are basically liberal, and Fox is basically conservative..."
But you know, Fox isn't "basically conservative". Fox is slightly less biased to the Left than the others, that's all. Watching Bill O'Reily, that guy is philosophically a New York City liberal. He's like Ed Koch.
Fox's big differentiation is they are not 100% in the tank for the Democrats. Since they actually have something on other than today's Dem talking points fax, people are flocking there.
Rather than being half Conservative half Liberal, its probably more like half Conservative, 20% bone hard Liberal and 30% who are unaware there's anything they should be paying attention to.
Also to be considered is the -large- number of people like myself who refuse to view television at all. Don't get cable, don't have rabbit ears. Most of us are Conservative.
Posted by: The Phantom at March 30, 2010 9:03 PM@ mystery meat
if you look at the grapg all of the different "competeing" networks together combined STILL do not pass fox alone ...so you can add all of them together if you want they are still out watched by fox ...witch if you look is the comparason made ...you dip s%&t
Paul in calgary.
Posted by: paul at March 30, 2010 9:07 PMhttp://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-fox-cnn-msnbc-ratings-2010-1
That's another chart of how Fox did against the rest over the last ten years. Looking at that chart, the entire executive of the rest of the cable news nets should be fired tomorrow morning at the latest. You don't see that in business as a rule, one competitor so wildly outperforming while the rest do -nothing- about it. Nothing.
This tells me that Something Else is going on to keep those cable nets doing what they are doing. Payola? Gentleman's agreement? Honor among thieves? Rank, unbelievable stupidity?
I can't even begin to guess. But if they keep it up for a couple more years FOX will have 75% or even 80% of the market and all those other nets will be splitting the leftovers. Even if they ALL get a gubmint bailout it won't matter, nobody will be watching.
Faster please!
Posted by: The Phantom at March 30, 2010 9:20 PMYeah, count me in the category of "solidly conservative but hasn't turned on Fox News in a good ten years (aside from election nights)."
I can read a lot faster than any of them can talk, and there's plenty of folks online like Kate, explaining things better than they can.
Posted by: Jake Taylor at March 30, 2010 9:31 PMCNN has become such a none entity, no one even cares to comment anymore. Personally I always start my day at SDA for news. TV no matter how Conservative still uses the old contrived methods of information transfer.
The net can spread big lies but that just makes people more discerning.
It can't be beat for investigation or speed.
The Media dies in 08. Its only the vultures at the MSM now. The fat rats are leaving its corpse before the ghouls come for the Banquet of its demise.
JMO
If I recall correctly, Middle East Arab interests have bought a stake in Fox News, around 20%. We'll see how that plays out with the angle of their future coverage.
mike
Posted by: mike at March 30, 2010 9:52 PMAll I see in these "others #'s" is a bailout from the Zero down the line.You don't get rid of viruses by just beating them in ratings,you have to go for the throat and kill them.
Posted by: Justthinkin at March 30, 2010 10:38 PMThe only program worth anything on CNN is Reliable Sources on Sunday mornings. It's not perfect, but does -- too some extent -- take on the role of discussing media bias. On some occasions, Kurtz even cites CNN itself for criticsm. Maybe not explicitly, but in the clips that are run sometimes features those from CNN. I wish we has something like that in this country -- taking on CBC primarily. But that will never happen. The MSM in Canada compete against each other, but they have mutual objectives in pushing their liberal "values". Would've been nice to have the other networks bring up the Krista Erickson affair when that was in the news. But like Fife with his "knuckle-draggers" remark, they can trust each other to keep their primary focus of attack the Conservative Party.
Posted by: jon at March 30, 2010 10:56 PMKeith:
Actually, on a per capita basis, CTV National news blows Fox away. Count Floyd regularly gets almost a million viewers each night, or about 3% of the Canadian population. 2.5 million for Fox is less than 1% of the US population.
Posted by: KevinB at March 30, 2010 10:58 PMWatch the Obama administration try to build a case of sedition against Fox and Conservative talk radio for inciting the Tea Party 'Rebellion'.
They work to discredit the Tea Partiers by continually accusing them of racism and violence when there is none of that. other than by some occasional whacked-out individual.
Watch for it.
Posted by: Abe Froman at March 30, 2010 11:02 PMI used to work primarily from home and had the TV on for news in the background throughout the day.
My experience with FoxNews is that they are no better than CNN Headline news at delivering information. The one thing they do ... or rather do not do is insult their audience. Which I am sure is the prime reason for their current success.
All the other stuff with the pundits and commentary is about the same ... with only the viewpoint changing .... Bill O'Reilly being such a major league prick is too much of an annoyance to stomach even if he does have some solid analysis and occasionally rips some deserving libtard in a most satisfying way.
Overall a few years ago I would have rated the daytime news networks....in order of decreasing quality and increasing BS:
1- MSNBC because of the business news reporting
2- CNN Headline News because of their ability to get to live events with camera crews.
3- FOX News because they generally display more intelligence in how they cover events.
Moot point these days since I rarely turn on the TV news. I get close to 100% by news feeds from the internet and do not need any and network clowns acting as filters or interpreters.
I do however listen occasionally to Glen Beck on satellite radio during my drive home. Given the fact that he has to do this day in and day out he's bound to have some off days. I used to make a point of watching him when he was at CNN and it was no coincidence that they turfed him during the primaries. He was the sole TV commenter going after the BS that the Democrats were shoveling.
And yes justthinkin .... those others have already been making their pitch for O-bailouts and they are going to back a government censorship bill to get it.
http://www.theonion.com/video/victim-in-fatal-car-accident-tragically-not-glenn,14380/
Posted by: marc in calgary at March 30, 2010 11:40 PMActually, on a per capita basis, CTV National news blows Fox away.
CTV is not a cable network; some of the non-cable US networks also beat FNC. What surprised me though was FNC in a close second place when compared to ALL networks (not just news).
Posted by: glasnost at March 31, 2010 12:25 AMRevnant Dream you sure have an original way of saying things - I especially like "The fat rats are leaving its corpse before the ghouls come for the Banquet of its demise." True - Turner knew when to sell CNN.
I do not have Fox, just regular cable and all that is on is that awful Joy Behar, she reminds me of a school yard bully. I noticed my TV listings are mixed up and state that Issues with Jane Valez is on but it is really that Behar women; you would think after 4 months they would have the listings correct - my guess is that is the info HLN and CNN are giving out.
Posted by: No-One at March 31, 2010 12:56 AMCNN definitely has the most shiny sets. Like the bridge and the warp core in engineering on the Star Ship Enterprise. Sadly,even today, Capt. Kirk, Mr. Spock, Capt. Picard and LaForge, all inspire more faith in the subspace tachion fields, wormholes and transporters, than does Wolff Blitzer going to commercial.
And what happened to Commander Katie Couric? Couric is a GREAT name for a Starship Commander with that certain mysterious something...
Posted by: Charles at March 31, 2010 1:06 AMThe sooner that we have a Fox in Canada the better. There is no news network in the US or anywhere else for that matter that are presenting the information that Glenn Beck is presenting. Exposing Obama for what he is is a good thing and Like him or Hate him, he's the one that's doing it.
Posted by: Pat at March 31, 2010 1:37 AMDamn liberal media!
Posted by: mouth at March 31, 2010 3:12 AMWe were in the Phoenix airport and the moronic cnn had nothing but rape stories. I moved twice so my 9 year old wasn't exposed to the breathless, in-depth, blow by blow of the useless talking heads. They just don't get it.
Posted by: mike at March 31, 2010 9:16 AMBeck's a big goofy clown. I guess people who watch infotainment like comedy.
Posted by: WAtcher at March 31, 2010 9:44 AM"Actually, on a per capita basis, CTV National news blows Fox away."
And that,KevinB,is why Canuckistan is WAY ahead of the States on the road to socialism/communism,although they are catching up rapidly under the One.I suggest stock in wheelbarrows,cause you're gonna need them for a loaf of bread.
Posted by: Justthinkin at March 31, 2010 9:50 AMFor weeks last summer, CNN seemed to talk about nothing except Michael Jackson's death. The entire story could have been explained in five minutes, but apparently CNN needed hundreds of hours of programming to do it justice, showing the same tired clips over and over and over and...
I heard CNNs ratings went up during this, but when the Jackson story died down, how many hard-core news fans had moved elsewhere?
Posted by: rabbit at March 31, 2010 10:46 AMKevinB's point is well taken. However the comparison was between cable news nets, not news shows.
The comparison here would be FOX vs. BNN, CBC News World and CTV News Channel. I think FOX wins that particular ratings contest.
That's why the CRTC kept FOX off our cable for so long. Thin edge of the less-than-Liberal wedge, right?
Posted by: The Phantom at March 31, 2010 10:49 AMThe Rick Sanchez guy on CNN is pathetic. It is hard to believe he's employed! Brutal!
Posted by: Atlas is Shrugging at March 31, 2010 11:08 AM@3:12 - I agree with bleetymouth! You're finally catching on, bleetums, good for you - damn them indeed and such!
And I'm sorry, I know Beck's a tad crazy - nor have I watched his show, as opposed to listening to clips, since he was on CNN, since I don't really watch TV and therefore have no proper cable package - but I really do think he's awesome. I mean, my faith in David Frum is beginning to waver; I'd say we need Limbaugh and we need Beck.
Posted by: Black Mamba at March 31, 2010 11:25 AMRelated:
New York Times daily circulation: 928000
http://tinyurl.com/ykmkuse
(7.3% drop from Sept 2008 to Sept 2009)
Instapundit average visits per day: 483533
http://tinyurl.com/yg2gfc9
(23% increase from March 2009 to March 2010)
At those continued rates of decrease/increase continue, then the puppy blender will surpass the puppy trainer sometime around the next presidential election.
1. CNN is Boring. Would help if Larry King was still deemed alive, but then there would be Anderson Cooper ...
2. HNN always seems to have that mouthy, nasal-drilling female who will never let facts get in the way of her opinion and supposed entertainment value.
3. I think it's MSNBC who has that gong-ringing, over-hyping madman who's been wrong on every stock market call over the past 5 years. The only reason I think he's there is that he has dirty pictures on someone high up, or he is a major shareholder. And let's not even get started on the "keep talking fast" show, American Greed or whatever with the panel of "informed" (code for opiniated and self-hyping) street "pros".
Is it any wonder, then, that serious folks listen to Fox, who at least has some informed and straight-talking hosts?
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