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March 23, 2010

Coulter "Mobbed" at Ottawa U

When I heard Coulter was coming to Canada I figured attending the event would be worth the entertainment value, if for nothing other than to witness the unhinged reaction that was sure to follow. Ottawa U didn't disappoint.

When I arrived there was a line of a few hundred, maybe a thousand people outside the Marion building. A few of them were chanting in front of the cameras but the line was otherwise better behaved than for a typical rock concert. The size of the line was no doubt a bit of a problem because the room held no more than 400 (my estimate).

Since I had registered for the event ahead of time I had no trouble elbowing my way to the front, verifying my name was on the list, getting inside and chatting briefly with Ezra Levant.

After a while the fire alarm went off, the obvious false alarm having been dealt with we sat down expecting the event to start.

Instead Ezra announced that police told him it would be "physically unsafe" to bring Ann in due to the "unruly mob" outside. There was certainly no issue, or even noise, inside the auditorium.

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Since I was inside at that point I don't know how unruly they became outside. But this is the national capital, just a few blocks from Parliament Hill, the US Embassy, the Prime Minister's Residence and countless embassies. The police surely have the capability to respond to anyone threatening a woman with dozens of TV cameras around. Instead, they chose to cancel the event instead.

After leaving the auditorium (from a side entrance, as the police insisted), I walked back out front to see what the commotion was:
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A lone policewoman standing on the step asked me to leave after I took her picture. I did leave, after expressing disbelief that they canceled the event over what appeared to be a few dozen pathetic protesters chanting in front of the nearby cameras.

A truly pathetic situation all around.

Posted by Jaeger at March 23, 2010 9:03 PM
Comments

The great news is, this proves that Francois's letter incited hatred and violence against Ann Coulter.

Posted by: Kyla at March 23, 2010 9:32 PM

Do you think the University of Ottawa provost was right to caution Ann Coulter in advance of what she might say?


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/globe-online-poll/article1509263/

Another poll ready to go horribly wrong?

Posted by: mark at March 23, 2010 9:37 PM

Exactly, Kyla.

What.

A.

Lawsuit.

Breach of contract, loss of income, not to mention the organizers' expense $$$ now down the drain

Bwa ha

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at March 23, 2010 9:39 PM

At least this stupid, vapid zealot didn't get to spew her venom, hatred and racist messages in Ottawa.

Posted by: T at March 23, 2010 9:49 PM

"What.

A.

Lawsuit.

Breach of contract, loss of income, not to mention the organizers' expense $$$ now down the drain"

Wouldn't count on that. Galloway got nowhere on this front. Neither will she.

Posted by: kt at March 23, 2010 9:50 PM

No T, we leave that for you to do.

Posted by: Kate at March 23, 2010 9:52 PM

brutal.

Posted by: drayl at March 23, 2010 9:54 PM

freaking fascist thugs

Posted by: Winston at March 23, 2010 9:58 PM

ashamed to be Canadian right now.

Posted by: Irene Swain at March 23, 2010 9:58 PM

If people on the right do not fight back hard all of our believes will soon be labeled hate speech. Its time to stop turning the other cheek.

Posted by: Fritz at March 23, 2010 10:00 PM

I was just outside the door to the auditorium waiting to get in since I had registered. Most of the students had not registered and were told they would not get in because their name was not on the registration list. Those students did not leave, even after the fire alarm went off (set off intentionally to disrupt the event??), and despite the request of security and the lone policewoman.

Most were polite and patient but there was a small but very vocal group agitating. If the doors had been opened I am sure there would have been a mad rush and several hundred kids would have streamed in. One organizer at the door said it was cancelled because it was not a safe situation. This remark was booed.

A contingent of police did come, I estimate about 5 of them about 20 min after the fire alarm. No firemen. We were then told after an hour of waiting, the event was canceled. Still no one left for about 15-20 min. I was told by security that Ann Coulter did not set foot in Marion Hall.

While waiting outside, a group of students were handing out anti-racism, anti-islamaphobia, anti-hate buttons and posters trying to get people riled up. Only about 1 in 5 or 6 accepted.

Not one student I asked had a read a book she had written or could identify exactly what hate speech she actually said. Clips of you tube videos of "hateful" things were cited.

Pathetic all around. Jaeger, at least you got to hear Ezra Levant.

Posted by: Valencia at March 23, 2010 10:01 PM

Bill Good just reported that the event was canceled after "thousands of protesters prompted officials to shut down the talks."

He also reported that Ann Coulter told a Muslim student that * he * could take camel if he has problems with airport security.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at March 23, 2010 10:01 PM

Bill Good is a little slow, and that's putting it mildly....

Posted by: Soccermom at March 23, 2010 10:03 PM

I have always maintained that the Left are the true haters and the true racists. The only thing they love is violence.
Now do you believe me?

Posted by: MariaS at March 23, 2010 10:06 PM

No one's putting a gun to your head forcing you to listen to her, T.

And no taxpayer money is funding her either. (Unlike some raving death-cult jihadist "Palestinian" groups I might name.)

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 23, 2010 10:09 PM

Bill Good is a radical fence sitter, but everyone knows which way he leans. Just another political correct Canadian talk show host who is definitely past his "best before" date.

Jon Macomb is much better, more grounded in reality.

Coulter is the best and I wouldn't be surprised is this whole talk tour is a set up to get an HRC case going in the other direction. You did say Ezra was there. I think he is a vendetta kind of guy if you give him a good reason and the HRC sure gave him one.

Great entertainment.

Posted by: Abe Froman at March 23, 2010 10:09 PM

The President of the University has a lot of explaining to do both for his letter to Coulter and for the cancellation.

Posted by: Gordon MacDonald at March 23, 2010 10:09 PM

The best was when going to my car, were 2 guys typing furiously on a laptop in the trunk of the car nest to mine. They said they were from Rueters.

I commented that this was a big story and it was unfortunate that Ann Coulter did not get to speak. They thought it was great the event did not happen and that there was no real news here.

I asked if they thought this would make first page news event in the US. They said sure.....after telling me this was not really news. I told them they were pathetic.

As Kathy says: Journalists our intellectual superiors.

Posted by: Valencia at March 23, 2010 10:10 PM

Another example of the integrity of publicly funded 'institutions of liberal learning'. (ILL)

Posted by: lwestin at March 23, 2010 10:11 PM

We were chatting it up with the police. We were not violent. Unruly, maybe. Only because we would not leave after they lied to us saying the auditorium had been evacuated after the fire alarm was pulled. For God's sake, a dude in a wheelchair was toting around among us waiting outside the doors. We are being improperly labeled by FAR.

Posted by: D'Arcy at March 23, 2010 10:11 PM

Its nice to get eye witness accounts of these things. Looks like the event got canceled due to officials basically not wanting to be bothered with a ruckus from less than twenty jerkoffs. Sheer laziness, in other words.

We live in a country where not-very-important people, like campus security guards, get to decide who speaks and who doesn't, at whim. I'd say that's getting pretty far along the police state path.

I hope Ann sues the britches off 'em.

Posted by: The Phantom at March 23, 2010 10:12 PM

Mob rule.

This is what happens at anti-Israel rallies, Israeli "Apartheid" Week, etc. The threat of violence by thugs is enough for the police to shut down an event and make the law-abiding, peaceful citizens leave. The cops care only about keeping the peace and preventing injury or death: they're not interested in fairness, it's not their job to stand up for our freedoms and they do not care about what kind of message this sends to the fascists.

So how do we fight against mob rule when the cops won't stop it?

I think Houle's letter empowered the thugs. If the university's administration had made it clear that the event would go on no matter what, would that have made a difference? Would it have changed the way the cops responded? (I have no idea.)

Posted by: Josephine at March 23, 2010 10:13 PM

Let's see if those same masked morons who gathered for the anti-racist rally in Calgary last Sunday show up for the Coulter speech.
These bandana covered cowards wouldn't let others speak unless they held up their pathetic signs showed us what free speech has become in Canada.

Posted by: Bocanut at March 23, 2010 10:14 PM

30 demonstrators chanting "hey hey ho ho" is some how more dangereous than a thousands Muslims downtown Toronto chanting "death to Jews".

I kinda miss the days when the cops were a little freer with their batons. It taught you to get the hell out of the way not get in someone face.

Posted by: gord at March 23, 2010 10:15 PM

Gordon, what explaining? That implies that MSM will hold him to account in some way, in any way. No chance of that ever happening. They're too busy gloating that she was shut down and trying to justify it by continuously replaying last night's exchange in their reports, when they know full well that had that not occurred, the outcome tonight would've been exactly the same.

Posted by: jon at March 23, 2010 10:21 PM

WAAYYYY MORE info on this here:

http://takebackyourschool.wordpress.com/

Posted by: Jamie at March 23, 2010 10:22 PM

Phantom: Looks like the event got canceled due to officials basically not wanting to be bothered with a ruckus from less than twenty jerkoffs.

It might have been more than twenty, but it was certainly nothing a few assertive cops couldn't handle if they'd had the slightest inclination to do something about it.

Posted by: Kevin Jaeger at March 23, 2010 10:27 PM

Conservatives are polite wimps. We will write a few angry blog posts and then go on with our productive fulfilling lives. The left wins again.

What should happen is that 10 more right wing speakers should be booked at this university and we should demand to be protected. Either that or we should shut down every speech from extreme lefties like Moore, Gore, Maher, etc.

I won't hold mt breath.

Posted by: Fritz at March 23, 2010 10:27 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/pointofview/2010/03/ann-coulter.html


Poll time!!

Posted by: Simon at March 23, 2010 10:27 PM

Hey "T" You just proved on your post that you are a shining example of what Ms Coulter has been saying about the extreme left...only what we say is OK, everything else is hate speech. Bite on that for awhile you dummy.

Posted by: nnm at March 23, 2010 10:31 PM

Josephine

Yes, the Houle letter mobilized the demonstrators but did get a large silent majority interested in Ann Coulter as well.

I heard the plan was to cross check the list of registrants against a list of "known security risks" or something similar to that..can't remember the actual words...but there was just too many people.

Posted by: Valencia at March 23, 2010 10:33 PM

Wow -- sure gives her good ammunition about the intolerant left. A sad day for freedom of speech.

Posted by: LindaL at March 23, 2010 10:36 PM

Wow -- sure gives her good ammunition about the intolerant left. A sad day for freedom of speech.

Posted by: LindaL at March 23, 2010 10:38 PM

What a bunch of douchebags these loons are. I am right of center and do not agree with much Ms. Coulter has to say. However, she has the right to say it and the loons resorted to violence (yes falsely ringing a fire alarm is violence and against the law) and showed what they are really all about.

Posted by: Anderson Davies at March 23, 2010 10:44 PM

The only vapid, stupid zealot is you T.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at March 23, 2010 10:48 PM

Anderson Davies, have a peak at this

Posted by: Brent Weston at March 23, 2010 10:51 PM

I love how lefties keep comparing this Galloway. Galloway was kept out of the country on LEGAL grounds. Coulter had already given a speech the night before without incident. Clearly Houle and the Houlegans had everything to do with this.

RG

Posted by: RightGirl at March 23, 2010 10:52 PM

Ashamed of our Canadian National Press Gallery!!

Posted by: Fay at March 23, 2010 10:53 PM

Why didn't the Premier of Ontario pull out a page from Pierre Trudeau and have the Eevil Stephan Harpur invoke the War Measures Act if things were so out of hand.

Posted by: Manitoba Moose at March 23, 2010 10:53 PM

As A Canadian these leftard creeps have shamed me and tarnished Canada's reputation for tolerance. What we witnessed tonight was anti-intellectual intolerance of the most uncivil and subversive kind.

Question: who turned off the police capability to establish order in this nation's capital?

I just feel disgust at this moment

Hell, I don't even particularly like Coulter but this kind of reactionary violence over such petty issues reveals a dangerous uncivil neurosis infecting our Campuses.

Posted by: Occam's disposable Blades at March 23, 2010 10:55 PM

This is how the left works. They bring a shouting crowd to a right wing event, the leftist leadership of the University then shuts down the discussion due to security concerns.

If the right did this, the University would call in the police to ensure that the event would continue.

I am getting sick of the fascist methods of the left in Canada. I sometimes think the right may need to resort to uncivil methods if the left keeps this up.

Posted by: Arthur Wolfe at March 23, 2010 10:57 PM

Lenin's disciples and the anarchists are trying real hard to take over this country and academia is helping them by indoctrinating with Marxist filth.

I doubt anything will become of this, as the authorities are too afraid of the left-wing activists.

What the blazes did I wear a uniform for for so many years!

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at March 23, 2010 11:00 PM

Arthur, the crowd didn't bring itself. François Houle all but dared them to show up. It was probably extra credit work!

RG

Posted by: RightGirl at March 23, 2010 11:00 PM

On the Vancouver news tonight they described her as "rabid right winger" Ann Coulter....No bias there then! For a moment there I thought I must have been watching the BBC.

Posted by: LT at March 23, 2010 11:03 PM

I seem to recall she got pretty much the same treatment at NYU in 2008 ... the difference being that the organizers (Young Repubs) and the school admin were prepared to deal with the predictable protesters.

As opposed to the Ottawaste U admin inciting and abetting the predictable protesters.
No doubt also preventing the organizers from taking any action to secure the event.

Posted by: OMMAG at March 23, 2010 11:05 PM

LT - watching the CBC against my will at the gym this evening, I saw Coulter being discussed as if it's evident to anybody with a pulse that she's basically just Julius Streicher in a tight skirt.

I guess she'll have to show up with a bodyguard next time.

Posted by: Black Mamba at March 23, 2010 11:11 PM

Typical lefty on Twitter said Houle's letter wasn't a threat, dismissed the action against Coulter, called me paranoid and then "insulted" me by asking me if I was Liz Cheney (hardly an insult, but guess it is to him). Need I mention he's from Toronto? And doesn't believe that I am too?

Toolbag.

RG

Posted by: RightGirl at March 23, 2010 11:19 PM

Ann Coulter has managed to hold a mirror to the whole world focusing on the intolerance in the soul of Canadian Universities in regards to conservatives or free speech, for that matter.
Anyone expecting unbiased reporting of Ann Coulter's Canadian tour from Canadian MSM is being delusional.
The few CTV yappers I watched, could not hide their animosity to Coulter.



Posted by: Joe Molnar at March 23, 2010 11:19 PM

Can you imagine the media reaction if "rabid left winger Michael Moore" had been similarly prevented from speaking on campus (although where I can't really imagine, Medicine Hat Community College for Future Farmers, possibly?).

Or rabid left wing enviro-whackjob David Suzuki?

Yet Coulter, who makes far more sense than either of the above, cannot be allowed to speak for fear that the precious human capital of the slow-motion revolution might come to their senses too.

Well, Harper and Nicholson can't play their usual hear no evil, see no evil game this time -- they were almost within walking distance of this stage of the undeclared communist revolution.

Speaking of which, since the constitution is now apparently suspended, I'm wondering if I should be moving my files to a safe location and seeking asylum in a non-communist country?

There used to be one to my immediate south, until yesterday.

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at March 23, 2010 11:24 PM

She's like George Carlin, or Andrew Dice Clay. She provokes. It's her shtick.

I'd even go further. Given the provocative works coming from the left (Piss-Christ, etc), I'd say she's an ARTIST. She should apply for a grant.

Now she gets to put a "BANNED IN CANADA" sticker on her next book.

Posted by: Norman at March 23, 2010 11:24 PM

The few CTV yappers I watched, could not hide their animosity toward Coulter.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at March 23, 2010 11:26 PM

And may the fleas of a thousand camels infest Bill Good's withered nethers.

Posted by: larben at March 23, 2010 11:29 PM

Coulter was interviewed by Tom Clark on CTV.
She made it clear that Canada is not being governed by a conservative government.
Quite shameful when you consider that a conservative speaking engagement at a university in the nations capital was cancelled because the speaker is a conservative?
Canada is not a free country.
Canada has been hijacked by some evil and mentally retarded people.

Posted by: Brad at March 23, 2010 11:31 PM

So much for tolerating alternate viewpoints. Free Speech, but only if the left agrees with it, everyone else is shouted down. Freedom for me but not for thee. What an open minded and accepting community! What utter rubbish.

Just remember what comes around goes around. You treat others as you wish to be treated. Remember that when the shoe is on the other foot.

Posted by: BG at March 23, 2010 11:33 PM

Our American friends are being fed with the information that "thousands protested" and in other quotes two thousand. I believe the source of thousands was "The Star". Presumably the usual suspect, if not I stand corrected.
Some of 'em getting pretty critical about we in Canada. The tragedy is that the damn press is always up front. Always ready to give the impression that suits their agenda.

I referred, them to this web site. I believe we have first hand witnesses. Figures that are given as about two dozen or so.

Posted by: Peter (Lock City) at March 23, 2010 11:34 PM

Oh the poor right wingers. I just have to laugh at some of the comments. The President of the University of Ottawa doesn't have any explaining to do as some comments suggest. Levant, now there is a piece of work. So full of it, that if given an enema there would be nothing left of him. Coulter just got told to take your garbage message some where else. She is anti-Muslim, racist and vapid. We certainly don't need to waste our time listening to her or her ilk spew their hate.

Posted by: T at March 23, 2010 11:36 PM

Peter O'Donnell, what you said.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at March 23, 2010 11:36 PM

Steyn:

" ... Think of Ezra's and my appearance in the House of Commons, and then imagine the scene when Miss Coulter testifies. So the threat is an empty one and M Houle seems to be being - oh, what's the "respectful and civil" way of putting it? - a posturing wanker."

"This is the pitiful state one of the oldest free societies on the planet has been reduced to, and this is why our free speech campaign matters - because those who preside over what should be arenas of honest debate and open inquiry instead wish to imprison public discourse within ever narrower bounds - and in this case aren't above threatening legal action against those who dissent from the orthodoxies. Lots of Americans loathe Ann Coulter but it takes a Canadian like François Houle to criminalize her. The strictures he attempts to place around her, despite his appeal to "Canadian law", are at odds with the eight centuries of Canada's legal inheritance. Canadians should point that out to him politely, and explain that, although he lives high off the hog courtesy of the Canadian taxpayer, he does not speak for them.


Telephone : (613) 562-5800 ext. 5737 
Fax : (613) 562-5106
e-mail: francois.houle@uottawa.ca"


Read it all:

http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/03/22/mark-steyn-ann-coulter-is-also-asking-for-it.aspx

Posted by: Cjunk at March 23, 2010 11:43 PM

Think how mad they would have been at Coulter if they had lost the Olympic Hockey final to team USA!

Posted by: texas19 at March 23, 2010 11:43 PM

This is why I left Canada 25 years ago. The creeping fascism was evident to me then. Canada is just one or two steps away from the real deal.

I hope Coulter demands that the university rebook her and provide a secure location. They should also permanently expel any student who threatens or uses violence to silence free speech.

Posted by: PeterM at March 23, 2010 11:45 PM

Where is Canada anyway? Is that the state that's in-between Idaho and Wyoming?

Posted by: Kevin at March 23, 2010 11:45 PM

"I sometimes think the right may need to resort to uncivil methods if the left keeps this up."

Unfortunately, that's likely exactly what the agent provocateurs want, and with the MSM being what it is, we know what the next morning's lead news stories would be, don't we.

Posted by: PiperPaul at March 23, 2010 11:47 PM

I was outside. It was not unruly at all! Not even in the slightest. 20-30 students were protesting, while hundreds of people were quietly hoping to get in to see Ann. That's it!

Posted by: sf at March 23, 2010 11:48 PM

I was there just a few hours ago, in the line-up with a friend. There weren't "thousands" of protesters, as the Star et al report. Perhaps 40 or 50. Most of us were lined up quietly. We had to wait 45 minutes or more, listening to those fascists chant. Some of us yelled, (after they said, "No more hate speech") "Then LEAVE!" I got some laughs when I said, after hearing the word "discrimination", "Bet you can't spell that!" and, a little while later, "I want my tax dollars back!" We also chanted, "Free Speech, Free Speech" back at them for quite a while.

The protesters behaved so badly. They chanted "hate speech" over and over. When the security was moving us down the steps, about 20 of them took the opportunity to rush in the door behind security. That's probably what got security scared. Some were wearing chic Palestinian scarves. They crammed the front entrance and made it hard for the registered to get in. They chanted, "You won't get in. You won't get in." They race-baited: one obvious Coulter fan bravely yelled, "Shut the f. . . up!" after a pompous speech by the main speaker and we all laughed; then one of the protesters said, "You're a white man and you're gonna tell me to shut up!" So my friend (bless her East-Indian, Jamaican soul) yelled, "I'M NOT WHITE!" That quieted them for a while. We were all told to dispurse by security, because the 600-hundred sitting inside already had to get out. One man spoke in a very frustrated manner to the police, saying to one of them, "You should do better with security! You let this happened in Cornwall too!"

I was so frustrated, watching those thugs stand there cheering when the word got out that the speech was cancelled, that I yelled at them, "You Liberal Fascists!" Someone with dreadlocks started for me, but a police man got inbetween and said, "Let's not start anything here." My friend and I walked the few blocks back to our car, muttering away about the whole business.

We were deprived of our right to see Ann Coulter speak. Many U of O students in that line-up wanted to hear her speak, and were deprived of that by a few fascists in their university who chose to pretend to represented all the students.

It was an embarassing night for Canada. Our security should have been better, and those thugs, going to a university that's supposed to allow a free-flowing of ideas, should have behaved better.

What happened was wrong. It was chilling. I felt I was watching fascist youth in action.

Posted by: Deb at March 23, 2010 11:52 PM

T:

You keep chanting that Coulter is "racist", "racist". You wouldn't care to back up that ridiculous assertion with a single fact or quotation, would you?

Didn't think so. Tool.

Posted by: KevinB at March 23, 2010 11:58 PM

Agreed sf. It was just a small group that was agitating. Most students were very interested in what Ann had to say. Really interested.

I was right beside the guy who overturned the table hoping to get others with him to storm the door. No takers. He was huge and had told me earlier he had registered and was with the Egyptian student union/club. Security hustled him out of there pretty quick. No other student pushed in after him because if so they would have been able to enter the auditorium.

Hardly any hooligans, a small number of protesters, just insufficient planning and no security/police to actually organize lines, check names and get this event going.

Pathetic

Posted by: Valencia at March 24, 2010 12:00 AM

peter odonnel how does she make more sense than david suzuki? But yea this should not have been cancelled, there is more ruckus at minor midget AAA game out here than what had occurred at the campus. Seems like the left wing hear pulled a stunt slightly similar but far less hate filled then what the teabaggers are doing in the states i would think.

Posted by: Rush Beck at March 24, 2010 12:03 AM

Oops, I meant "Concordia", not "Cornwall."

Posted by: deb at March 24, 2010 12:04 AM

I will defend to the death your right to protest Coulter but reserve the right to shoot you dead if you impede my right to hear her speak.
Leftards will never understand that their right to protest is exactly the same as her right to speak.

I hope Ann makes an absolute fortune from this!

I for one will buy her next book. My own personal apology as an ashamed Canadian.

Those that died in the world wars must be rolling in their graves. As Kate has said many times, we need a good old fashioned famine to put things back into proper perspective. There would be little time to protest against what a frail women might say when you're worried about where your next meal is coming from.

The next major war can't happen soon enough. Time to relearn that freedom (including free speech) is important.

Dave.

Posted by: Dave_RoA at March 24, 2010 12:04 AM

I'm not sure that this could have worked out any better.
Had the speaking engagement gone off without a hitch, a few hundred would have heard her speak and no more would have been said about it.
Now, we have seen free-speech trampled, gross exaggerations by the MSM (1000's of protesters vs.100's), laziness and incompetence by the Capitol's police and smug intolerance by the left. All of which will be exposed to the Canadian public on a national scale.
Thank you, Miss Coulter, for shining a light on the uglier side of Canada. You can't kill a cockroach that you can't see.

Posted by: Skull at March 24, 2010 12:06 AM

I was inside the lobby but not in the auditorium so I did not see what happened outside as Deb described. Wow. Inside the lobby was pretty tame though.

I do think however, that she would have been shouted down inside the auditorium if some of the students I saw actually got in....

Posted by: Valencia at March 24, 2010 12:06 AM

Great article by Brian Lilley about what happened:
http://www.examiner.com/x-22884-Canada-Politics-Examiner~y2010m3d23-Ann-Coulter-speech-shut-down-at-University-of-Ottawa

The paragraph about "Sameena" is very telling.

RG

Posted by: RightGirl at March 24, 2010 12:13 AM

40-to 50 is all it takes in the beginning, Deb.
Ask Adolph.

Posted by: gellen at March 24, 2010 12:13 AM

Dear Deb - "chic Palestinian scarves"? They have to be the faggiest looking things since Namath wore
pantyhose.

Posted by: larben at March 24, 2010 12:20 AM

At least this stupid, vapid zealot didn't get to spew her venom, hatred and racist messages in Ottawa.
~T

After a while the fire alarm went off, the obvious false alarm having been dealt with we sat down expecting the event to start.

You know how Leftists always use the example for restrictions on free speech by stating the case that it's illegal to falsely yell fire in a crowded theater because it endangers people?

crickets chirping.....

Posted by: Oz at March 24, 2010 12:21 AM

I was outside all night. There was a handful of pathetic little turds that were screeching outside - but nothing that could in any wat be construed as intimidating. They were a joke.

Look. I'm pissed off. I registered in advance and travelled 60 miles with friends to hear Ann Coulter speak - and it didn't happen. What's worse, there is NOTHING that happened at Ottawa U tonight that could in any way be construed as a security issue.

This keeps happening on University campuses. You have gutless, jelly-like administrations (who don't want speakers like Coulter there to begin with) backed up by hopeless security. They look for any excuse to shut things down.

So here's my advice. Don't hold these events on University grounds. Hold them out in the rural areas and let local Landowner Associations handle the pre-registration, admission and security. End of problems... and everybody gets to hear the speaker.

Posted by: Jamie MacMaster at March 24, 2010 12:23 AM

Hey T you festering waste of DNA. Back up your socialist spew with facts otherwise go back to Obama's basement and wait for orders.

Posted by: Warren Z at March 24, 2010 12:27 AM

Canada sounds like a Muslim country. No tolerance is unattractive. I guess argument/counter-argument (i.e., reason) means nothing to a Canadian. They like it raw and uncivilized.

Posted by: Principlex at March 24, 2010 12:30 AM

Regular Canadians don't support this fascist denial of free speech. It's the lunatic fringe of layabouts, benefit sucking immigrants from third world hell-holes that they'd apparently like to duplicate in Canada, students with daddy's credit card, and leftist academic freedom hating bozos; but I repeat myself.
Have a nice day, eh?

Posted by: Mason at March 24, 2010 12:31 AM

I was being sarcastic, larben. Those scarves are pathetic props for wanna-be radicals.

Posted by: deb at March 24, 2010 12:32 AM

Oh please, with the sort of crap that Coulter says, I have no sympathy for her. She's a horrible person who says horrible things so she can "stir the pot." Good riddance.

Posted by: Christopher at March 24, 2010 12:34 AM

Principlex: I'm a Canadian as most everyone else commenting here. Please don't go lumping us into one group because of a few idiots.

Posted by: Warren Z at March 24, 2010 12:35 AM

I'd suspect that Ahmadinejad would have been able to speak.

Posted by: Kevin at March 24, 2010 12:35 AM

Oh please, with the sort of crap that Coulter says, I have no sympathy for her. She's a horrible person who says horrible things so she can "stir the pot." Good riddance.

Posted by: Christopher at March 24, 2010 12:36 AM

Jaeger, how much trash was out front after the "thousands of protesters" disappeared? Trash left behind is a pretty good indicator of "unruly" protesters.

Posted by: Kevin at March 24, 2010 12:42 AM

Kevin, your comment nails it.

Posted by: TJ at March 24, 2010 12:43 AM

Mason, what you said.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at March 24, 2010 12:43 AM

Christopher to you she may say horrible things but do you defend her right to say them?

Posted by: Warren Z at March 24, 2010 12:44 AM

I'm all for letting Anne Coulter speak freely, howevah!!

Sometimes institutions receive threats that "we the people" are not aware of. That may have been the case here, and given the Liberal brainiacs that make up the party today, that is not hard to fathom.

I think her appearance in Calgary will level the playing field.

Posted by: Joe Citizen at March 24, 2010 12:48 AM

PS: Needless to say, the exact same commnet I made here at 12:48 AM was suppressed on CBC.Ca!

Posted by: Joe Citizen at March 24, 2010 1:03 AM

Joe Citizen: in Calgary, she could probably fill the Saddledome.

Posted by: Ed Minchau at March 24, 2010 1:09 AM

Well, the University of Ottawa has lived up to its local moniker tonight.

U of ZERO

Posted by: Valencia at March 24, 2010 1:10 AM

"Here's my advice: Don't hold these events on University grounds. Hold them out in the rural areas and let local Landowner Associations handle the pre-registration, admission and security. End of problems... and everybody gets to hear the speaker." - Jamie McMaster

That's the best idea I've heard in a long time.

Posted by: EBD at March 24, 2010 1:14 AM

How many right wing protesters show up at events put on by the left? Not many. Why? Speaking for myself I really don't want to be around people like that, they have nothing meaningful to say, I actually feel sorry for those types. I will say one thing for them, they are good at following directions and doing what they’re told. Pathetic, naive, ignorant and insignificant little people, what a life.

Posted by: Western Canadian at March 24, 2010 1:24 AM

Was she carrying peanuts?

Posted by: ∞² at March 24, 2010 1:26 AM

It seems likely that the organizers did not have enough experience or perhaps financial resources to put on this gathering in the face of potential harassment from the usual leftist and islamist campus thugs. Without sufficient paid duty police and private security involved up front by the promoters, any contrived situation implying violence would give the U of Zero the excuse they wanted to pull the plug.

Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at March 24, 2010 1:28 AM

I wonder how many nasty emails francois.houle@uottawa.ca has gotten this evening.

Posted by: ChrisinMB at March 24, 2010 1:41 AM

LOL Cananda. LOL

Posted by: EZnSF at March 24, 2010 1:44 AM

Josephine: "The cops care only about keeping the peace and preventing injury or death: they're not interested in fairness, it's not their job to stand up for our freedoms and they do not care about what kind of message this sends to the fascists."

I wonder if this derives from "harm reduction"?

Or maybe their "diversity training" is kicking in?

Posted by: nv53 at March 24, 2010 1:49 AM

I think that there was actually a more substantial threat that was made toward Ann Coulter, the smell test isn't adding up here on this one.

Now the MSM are fudging numbers to make it appear that there were thousands of demonstrators instead of less than 100 as written by those who are eye witnesses. There is some hanky-panky of a sinister kind which we will hear about after the speaking tour in done.

The proof will be if she is allowed to speak in Calgary tomorrow night.

Posted by: glacierman at March 24, 2010 1:50 AM

Ok, so do you believe me now on the power of a strongly worded letter?

Posted by: UN at March 24, 2010 1:53 AM

GLENN BECK has a video commentary on this here. http://www.glennbeck.com/content/videos/?uri=channels/338017/848727

Posted by: Warren Z at March 24, 2010 1:58 AM

Does "T" stand fro tit or twat?

Posted by: Horny Toad at March 24, 2010 2:07 AM

Nothing specifically Canadian. Just normal leftist thuggery. Par for the course.

Posted by: Wellington at March 24, 2010 2:16 AM

I think "T" stands for Trotsky.

Posted by: Warren Z at March 24, 2010 2:17 AM

T spewed "At least this stupid, vapid zealot didn't get to spew her venom, hatred and racist messages in Ottawa."

T - you just described yourself.

BTW - T stands for Trudeau.

Posted by: No-One at March 24, 2010 2:30 AM

You play great hockey but you suck at defending Human Rights

Posted by: T,Johnson at March 24, 2010 2:42 AM

Democracy speaks. A large group of people decided that in this perilous time they didn't need to hear someone demean vast groups of people with racist stereotypes. ("How should Muslims travel?" "By camel!") Shove it, Coulter. A proud day for Canada.

Posted by: mouth at March 24, 2010 3:04 AM

Mouth:

I'm going to say the same thing to you I said to your pal, T-roll. Name one "racist" statement Coulter made. Post a link. Or STFU. I notice T disappeared after I challenged him. Do us all a favour, and emulate him, won't you?

Posted by: KevinB at March 24, 2010 3:54 AM

Was she carrying peanuts?
Posted by: ∞²

LOL. No all the nuts were outside apparently - jackbooting the good Canadians, but maybe she had a dog that resembles a pitbull and walked it in a public park or on a sidewalk or whatever; the hate packs can snarl up anything they target for their pet media to froth over.

Posted by: ldd at March 24, 2010 4:00 AM

"A large group of people decided that in this perilous time they didn't need to hear someone....."

Uhmmm, mouth, when normal people decide that they don't need to hear someone, they don't listen to them.
Your charaterisation of what happened here is disingenuous. These paragons of a "just" society decided that they did not want ANYONE to hear what Ms. Coulter had to say.

And to those that are calling this democracy, your lack of understanding is showing.
Here's a hint so that your next post will sound a bit more intelligent: A-N-A-R-C-H-Y

Posted by: Miles1996 at March 24, 2010 4:10 AM

"A large group of people decided that in this perilous time they didn't need to hear someone....."

Uhmmm, mouth, when normal people decide that they don't need to hear someone, they don't listen to them.
Your charaterisation of what happened here is disingenuous. These paragons of a "just" society decided that they did not want ANYONE to hear what Ms. Coulter had to say.

And to those that are calling this democracy, your lack of understanding is showing.
Here's a hint so that your next post will sound a bit more intelligent: A-N-A-R-C-H-Y

Posted by: Miles1996 at March 24, 2010 4:12 AM

The Canucks who died at Dieppe and elsewhere during WWII died for nothing. If speech is not free, there is no freedom. Recall: All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Posted by: PacRim Jim at March 24, 2010 4:40 AM

I think the surprise factor here was the complicity of the police, the apparently weak efforts by protestors to disrupt the event could have been anticipated, but the agreement to play along by the first responders as we must now call them, is indicative of the culture of political correctness having made inroads into police forces across the country. I am sure it doesn't sit equally well with every officer, but we can all see with our own eyes that this country has more or less gone off the deep end on the security issue. We paid something like a billion dollars to keep Osama bin Laden from blowing up a ski hill -- apparently though, our luge track designers are equally dangerous, if not perhaps as deliberately cruel.

A billion dollars. Imagine the good that money could have done, and frankly, if they had blown up a couple of snobs from Germany, would anyone have complained? Even in Germany?

(I am trying my best to be Coulter-like here since she's not allowed to speak).

Anyway, thank goodness no nice multicultural students were offended, because that would be twice in one lifetime, and I can't imagine what that would be like, having been offended 65,407 times so far, and that's only by girls.

(Now I am trying to sound like Ezra, another person who isn't allowed to speak)

Quite the victory for the forces of Canadian enforced niceness, I must say (now I'm dissociating and trying to sound like Ed Grimley or that other character Martin Short had, the weasel lawyer, and not the one you automatically think of when I say that, but the one who says ... what, is it me?)

Yes it is you, or somebody just blended all the bad karma into one new kind and called it diversity. I wish I could get a little, but apparently if you're a hoser, you just get to pay for it.

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at March 24, 2010 6:13 AM

T,

Notice a couple of things: a) T stands for Troll, as in you made your comment and then fled the scene; b) you spewed hateful venom like a stupid, vapid zealot while you were saying, "At least this stupid, vapid zealot didn't get to spew her venom, hatred and racist messages in Ottawa."

Ironic on both points. Thanks for the chuckle.

Posted by: w3bgrrl at March 24, 2010 7:03 AM

Hello Kate. Got so upset over Coultergate I sent this letter to Allan Rock:
Dear Sir:

I would have expected one of our(tax payers) institutions of supposedly "higher" learning to treat a visiting speaker from the US (Ann Coulter) with a little more respect. By allowing a few student hooligans to rule the day Ottawa University has become an international joke.

To add insult to injury your Provost, Mr. Francois Houle, made a complete fool of himself by basically accusing Ms. Coulter of breaking our hate speech laws before she even gave her talk. I wonder if he felt the need to warn controversial speakers at your institutions involvement in Israeli Apartheid Week. I expect some hate was fostered at that shameful OU event.

I certainly do not agree with everything the controversial Ms. Coulter has to say but the way that your institution has acted makes me ashamed to admit that I served in the Canadian Military for 28 years to help maintain freedom of speech and education in Canada.

As a former Canadian MP you should be doubly ashamed of your institution's behaviour and issue an apology to Ms. Coulter, the organizers of the event and all Canadian citizens.

Posted by: Alex in Winnipeg at March 24, 2010 7:08 AM

I watched Coulter on Coren last night. Coulter's got more balls than what's in the entire city of Ottawa. Certainly, it was clear that in a sh!tfight, you know who'd have your back.

Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2010 7:15 AM

University of Ottawa.

Useful Idiots.

Posted by: John Brooks at March 24, 2010 7:40 AM

Why do we continue to allow children to control what adults are allowed to do?

Posted by: atric at March 24, 2010 7:54 AM

Found this quote from Ms. Coulter:

"They're [Democrats] always accusing us of repressing their speech," she said. "I say let's do it. Let's repress them."

She later added, "Frankly, I'm not a big fan of the First Amendment."

http://www.alligator.org/app/pt2/051021coulter.php

What goes around, comes around.

Posted by: GreenNeck at March 24, 2010 8:34 AM

My suspicion is that the 'protest' was staged, and by the provost, Francois Houle.

He sent that smug insulting letter to Coulter, suggesting that he knew already her speech was going to be 'hateful'.

This letter was widely criticized in the press and blogs. Leftists can't handle opposition and that criticism would enrage an elitist leftist; you don't question an elitist leftist; you obey them.

The MSM are reporting that 2,000 protesters showed up, saying that this data is from 'a university official'. Strange. The reality on the ground, that is, the reports by people who were actually there, says that the number was only about 30 people.

I suspect that Houle wanted Coulter's talk shut down; he wanted to also show that his view of her as 'unwanted' was widely supported and that many, many others were just like him and also were against her.

I suspect the whole situation was micromanaged by Houle.

Posted by: ET at March 24, 2010 8:42 AM

O'bully Imposeur "imposes news blackout(sic)": Raus/off to the GULAG.
...-

"Israel threatens to block peace talks for year
Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

Relations between allies drop to new low, as White House imposes news blackout on Netanyahu's trip to Washington"

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/

Posted by: maz2 at March 24, 2010 8:57 AM

"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left."
Margaret Thatcher

Posted by: Stan at March 24, 2010 9:09 AM

Mouth, democracy did not speak. I was there. Approximately 30 easily-led and unthinking thugs intimidated people and stopped a far larger majority (over 600) from listening to someone who it was their right to listen to. That's not democracy. That's fascism.

You need to read more. And soon. You and your kind are scary.

Posted by: deb at March 24, 2010 9:36 AM

Mouth, democracy did not speak. I was there. Approximately 30 easily-led and unthinking thugs intimidated people and stopped a far larger majority (over 600) from listening to someone who it was their right to listen to. That's not democracy. That's fascism.

You need to read more history. And soon. You and your kind are scary.

Posted by: deb at March 24, 2010 9:37 AM

New Globe and Mail poll running, specifically about cancellation (yesterday's was about letter):

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/globe-online-poll/article1510193/

Posted by: Hank at March 24, 2010 9:39 AM

I went to Coulter non-event last night. The problem is that of Venue; It should have been at a hotel.

I was registered but turned away at the door around 8:30 by a police officer to told me the event was cancelled.

I must have been at another Coulter event to the one the clown posse are talking about because the one I was at had maybe ten kiddies (tops) chanting something incoherently. A line of police cars, two camera trucks and maybe 150 attendees standing around quietly in the drizzle waiting to go in.

Drudge says there were "2,000 protesters with rocks and sticks"; He's now a member of the Idiot Press(TM)and may be safely ignored.

Every 'protester' could have been driven home to their parents in a separate squad car.

Posted by: blair at March 24, 2010 9:40 AM

Just love Ann saying what most of us think.
Wish I was in Calgary to hear her speak there.
Keep it up Ann.
Most of us in Canada are not like the idiots in Ottawa last night who think they speak for us.
Definitely not.

Posted by: Jane at March 24, 2010 9:44 AM

Peter O'Donnell - my hypothesis is that the University of Ottawa provost, Francois Houle, had the event cancelled.

I suspect that he contacted the police and told them that he was 'concerned about safety' and asked them to support his cancellation.
His staff told the news reporters that there were '2,000 protesters' - a complete lie - and I suspect he was behind the leader of the 20-30 odd students who did actually protest.

Houle is in the political studies department; his research focus is on 'pluralism and multiculturalism'. That tells you that he's a leftist elitist who rejects interaction and debate.

The multicultural idea of 'diversity' is cultural relativism where everyone is theoretically allowed different beliefs and behaviour but these are kept in isolate purity. These different groups never interact except to exchange food at multicultural pavilions. You never debate or discuss issues or beliefs and behaviour.

The 'glue' that holds these isolate groups together in a society is the elite government which ensures that you don't argue or debate with each other, and remain isolate in your domain.

That's Houle and I suspect that he was behind the false data released to the press, and the request to the police about security, and wanted the event shut down.

You see, in the world of cultural relativism, ruled by the elite left, you must never, ever, confront the elite. Houle's letter to Coulter was leaked, was roundly criticized, and his reaction was to show that He, not Her, was 'Top Gun'. He closed down her talk. That shows that He's The Boss.

Posted by: ET at March 24, 2010 10:01 AM

I was registered, but ultimately went to see Henry Rollins as I already had a ticket for that. Dammit, why do these things have to happen at the same time? Anyway, it seems it was just as well I went to Rollins given the outcome here, although it seems the Coulter sideshow would have been more entertaining! And it's not often you get an opportunity to hurl invective at lefty morons in their element.

Posted by: Dudley Morris at March 24, 2010 10:01 AM

Those green posters they were handing out? (Notice the colour..hmmm). I offered to take one and tear it up. The look the girl gave me was priceless.

I believe the threat to Ann was serious. There were some scary looking LARGE muslim men there. One tried to storm the door to the auditorium. Head of a Muslim student union. Things that make you go hmmmmm. The chanting protesters were not the problem, IMHO.

'Course, the police could have handled this but was either asked not to or decided confronting protected groups was going to be too much trouble.

Posted by: Valencia at March 24, 2010 10:06 AM

Two giggling moronic schoolboys.


http://watch.ctv.ca/news/clip280093#clip280093


They have the nerve to call themselves journalists and then wonder why local TV is dieing. Since I have a choice between Tom Clark or Glen Beck, Bret Baier or Ken Shaw, goodbye CTV.

Posted by: john at March 24, 2010 10:09 AM

If anyone is looking to hire students out of university, save yourself some time and thrown the resumes from those who received their degrees from the University of Ottawa in the shredder.

Posted by: John Luft at March 24, 2010 10:19 AM

The difference between Ann Coulter and the demonstrators is the difference between losers and winners. Violence wins, it's that simple. Until Ann Coulter shows up with her own mob to fight back, she'll lose and lose and lose. For me, I'm not surprised Canadian Values silenced Ann. It's their purpose.

Posted by: tehag at March 24, 2010 11:11 AM

The whole shutdown of Coulter was more Canadian than most would care to admit.

Posted by: Cjunk at March 24, 2010 11:16 AM

I don’t get it. It seems to me that we are mad at the wrong people.

Of course, the lefties are rabid thugs who use violence or the threat of vioelnce to silence their enemies. It’s what they do. They don’t play fair.

Of course, university adminstrators are spineless wonders, at best, and, perhaps more likely, themselves ideological opponents of western liberal values like free speech.

Of course, universities and the academic world have ceased to be (if they ever really were) havens of open and respectful discourse and have become intellectually discredited, profoundly malevolent, closed and dogmatic.

We knew all that stuff already. It’s not surprising.

The people we should really be upset with are the police. It’s their job not to be spineless. It’s their job to maintain order not by acquiescing to threats of violence but by throwing those that threaten violence in jail. That’s why we have police and jails – to contain the violence of the barbarians, not to give in to it, and to preserve a space (what we used to call civilization) where people engaged in legal (and in this case, constitutionally protected) activity can continue in those activities without fear of violence.

The lessons I would suggest are:

a) never have events like this on university campuses – it simply gives one’s opponents on campus and in the university adminsitration too much opportunity for sabotage; and

b) rely on adequate private security, not the police.

Posted by: blackcat at March 24, 2010 11:17 AM

Tehag:

"I'm not surprised Canadian Values silenced Ann. It's their purpose"

You got that right.

Posted by: blackcat at March 24, 2010 11:22 AM

Drat! Now I have to change my name so as not to be confused with the idiot who calls himself "T". Nice rebuttal Kate!

Posted by: Thomas_L..... at March 24, 2010 11:28 AM

"What we have here is failure to communicate"

ET' and others are on it, this is Boss Hoggs' er uh Boss Houles' county and no interloping foreigner is coming in here and telling him how to live.

The Egyptian Student Jihadi goat coveters are his leg breakers.
The cops were paid to shut it down.

Another elitist Canadian unaccountable mandarin gets' his wings, another day closer to the shooting war.

We bring fairplay and waiting in line with 10 dollars.
Knife to a gun fight and all that.

Posted by: richfisher at March 24, 2010 11:36 AM

"I'm not sure that this could have worked out any better."

Agreed, from reading the comments, it appears the UofO and the protesters(sic) have been hoodwinked by Anne and Erza.

Thank-you Anne for exposing Canada for what it is on a scale that we here are incapable of achieving.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at March 24, 2010 12:10 PM

Blackcat:

"The people we should really be upset with are the police. It’s their job not to be spineless."

One word:

Caledonia...

Posted by: another_anon at March 24, 2010 12:36 PM

Shame on you Ottawa, but at lease she will be welcomed in redneck Calgary.

Posted by: east hasting junkie at March 24, 2010 12:57 PM

In order to prevent Muslim's from blowing up commercial aircraft have you liberal Canadians pass laws that require all Muslim's get first class seating,free Muslim ethnic food and forbid the searching of Muslim passengers boarding flights,yet?

Posted by: whitey at March 24, 2010 1:40 PM

Maybe we should have stood up for our values long before but most conservatives were TOO BUSY WORKING.

My informal poll last night yielded these majors:
sociology
women's studies
international relations and human rights
political science
education
health sciences (a quiet polite student)

Note:
I could not find one engineer, pre-med student, computer science, theater or music, or business student. They are too busy GOING TO CLASS.

Though I did think it weird that a PhD graduate in structural engineering from Dubai with a multimillion dollar business (his words) was there. Things that make you go hmmmmmm

Posted by: Valencia at March 24, 2010 1:42 PM

Wow, the misquotes, out-of-context quotes and outright lies about Coulter via the pass-it-on route in the land of the fascist element permeating the halls of higher learning is astounding and in our Capital city no less. In fact they're giving her even more ammunition to take to litigation.

Is this not the worst slander without cause we've seen in some time?

Posted by: Liz J at March 24, 2010 2:08 PM

black cat at 11:17 am.

You make appropriate prescriptions on the basis of these events, but they are prescriptions of shame for the country. Do not book controversial speakers at those institutions which are supposed to be bastions of free inquiry? Do not rely on the forces of law and order to maintain the peace?

I have a longer term but more painful (for some people) prescription to propose. When I see this type of crap happening at so many universities, I'm inclined to conclude that many, if not all, should be defunded except for the sciences and the professional schools. The arts students, the journos and the lawyers should have to learn decorum and listening and reasoning skills before the government commits to maintaining funding to their faculties.

This is a necessary, but also shameful conclusion, since the liberal arts have been the bedrock of higher education for centuries and have contributed alot to the success of western civilzation and culture. Unfortunately, today, they are contributing to the downfall of western civilization and culture, and possibly doing so deliberately. If these little jerks (and I include much of the professoriat and administration under that rubric) want to continue in this way, it's time they paid the whole freight themselves.

Posted by: felis corpulentis at March 24, 2010 2:32 PM

Thuggery like this will only get worse if it is tolerated. People who value free speech, even speech they disagree with, should aggressively protect it. Seeing that we can't always depend on law enforcement to do its job, organizers of these events should take steps to deter thuggery.

Let's think outside the box and get creative. One thought that occurred to me as I read the story would be to anticipate the fascists' methodology and to counter it. For example, could the fire alarm handles have been "painted" ahead of time with some dye that is invisible, but which would show up under UV light? Is this feasible? Then you could catch the perp "red handed," so to speak, and press charges under applicable law to the fullest extent. At a minimum, we should follow Instapundit's advice and have people (amateurs, not paid staff) filming every event for documentary evidence to counter the MSM's disinformation crusade.

Most fascists are sheep and not really committed to their "cause." If we can use their fascist behavior to successfully prosecute them or legally cause them some other discomfort, maybe they will limit themselves to lawful behavior in the future. Is it naive of me to think this?

Posted by: "M" not "T" at March 24, 2010 2:33 PM

Self-respecting people go to Carleton. The mingey
types prefer Ottawa U.

Posted by: John Lewis at March 24, 2010 3:41 PM

Was anyone arrested?

From the looks of it there was no mob. Levant manufactured this whole thing.

If there's one thing conservatives love it is to feel aggrieved and feel that the world is out to get you.

Go on feed your victim complex, it feels good doesn't it?

Posted by: Scott at March 24, 2010 4:15 PM

I have always liked Coulter. I have always disliked left wingers, ever since I hung around with some of them in university. Now I am afraid of them. I am now too old to fight in the streets or anywhere.

Where are all of you young conservatives and freedom lovers? At home writing blogs to the converted?

What is needed is action, strong action up to the limits of the law, not in-house talk. I do not know of any arganized and commited action groups at all in Canada. We are losing and all you are doing is talking to each other. Act!

Posted by: Augustine at March 24, 2010 4:51 PM

Well, one thing is for sure. You won't find the CPC defending the right of free speech. Red Tories I find are just as blind by the red cape of Marxism.
Thanks Ann for showing up the reality in this once great Nation. We do NOT have a Conservative government, its just in the name.
Time to rethink our options in the West real carefully. The East is beyond repair.
It is a fascist state except in Name.
The sickness just hasn't spread this far west except BC.
If this Country where serious about Natural human rights. All public funds to U of Obama er Ottawa would be cut with its graduated making their displeasure felt. Being elitist I doubt even this would penetrate their warped thinking. Academia after all for the most part have become socialist nester's in a vulnerable education system.
One this group makes more irrelevant every day as the drop out shows for males.
Decisions , decisions. Vote Liberal to watch this Country die a quick death, or keep voting for pseudo-Conservatives to see a slow rot.
No real choice.
The cone of silence has descended on Harper & company.
JMO

Posted by: Revnant Dream at March 24, 2010 5:36 PM

>> Christopher to you she may say horrible things but do you defend her right to say them?

In general, I will defend her right to free speech, but there *is* a line, and her whole shtick is that she loves to cross it so that she can "stir the pot."

If she's going to tell us that we should help her kill the leaders of Muslim countries, carpet bomb them, and then convert them all to Christianity then no, I don't.

What if I went on a visit to America and made a speech in public saying that we should kill Ann Coulter, carpet bomb her friends and families houses, and then force the survivors to convert to Islam? And then I'll call her a cunt and suggest that we should only fly on airlines that discriminate against white females, to avoid flying with Ann Coulter.

Posted by: Christopher at March 24, 2010 5:42 PM

Also, I apologize for the triple post earlier. My browser was giving me errors but I guess the comments went through anyway.

Posted by: Christopher at March 24, 2010 5:43 PM

"Posted by: Revnant Dream at March 24, 2010 5:36 PM"

Except BC? The Reform Party, the principles of which made for a sound foundation, originated with seniors on Vancouver Island and in Alberta.

Rural BC is steeped in common sense, except for the green zealots we've attracted due to our majestic landscape.

I LOVE BC.


Posted by: chutzpahticular at March 24, 2010 6:41 PM

"At least this stupid, vapid zealot didn't get to spew her venom, hatred and racist messages in Ottawa."

You squashed anything like free speech, trashed academic freedom and showed yourself to be against people hearing a contrary point of view. But as long as a dirty conservative didn't get to speak to an audience that obviously wanted to hear what she had to say, it's all good, right?

The US is headed down that road as well. Hopefully we will see the shoals on which Canada is currently running itself in time, and reverse course back to where we can speak our minds freely. I don't want to live in a country where I am prohibited from going against the pointy-headed purveyors of political correctness.

Posted by: Agoraphobic Plumber at March 24, 2010 6:45 PM

When little Miss Aggrieved Muzzie student stands up and takes her co-religionists to task, then she might be spared the exquisite barbs of Coulter-the-Truth-Teller.

Coulter mere chose an more effective method of telling her to clean up her own yard first. If it weren't for the over 15,000 and counting terror attacks since 9/11, Coulter wouldn't have had a perfectly deserving "special victim" to skewer.

Meanwhile, Quebec is taking further steps on the Muslim veil thing.

Posted by: Louise at March 24, 2010 6:57 PM

The reality is that the 'protest' was an opportunity exploited by Ann Coulter and her entourage.

They leaked the polite cautionary letter from Houle to the National Post, framing the debate in a way that suggested the University of Ottawa was attempted to censor her performance.

The spin the NP gave to Houle's letter was widely debunked in the press and blogs. Rightwingers can't handle facts; helpful information enrages neocons who screech when their ideological authority is challenged.

Ashley Scorpio, an organizer for the event, confused the line-up of hundreds of disgruntled people trying to get into Marion Hall with protesters. She claimed 2,000 protesters showed up but rational observers like Jaeger saw for themselves how it actually happened.

The Young Conservatives at the U of O bungled the organization of the event; Coulter's bodyguard reported that it was a MASSIVE FUBAR at the door.

Coulter never even left the ritzy Rideau Club where VIP rightwingers paid $250. each for the privilege of having their photo taken with her. Levant was dispatched to tell a hostile crowd of Coulter fans that the event was canceled so it was blamed on the University.

Posted by: deBeauxOs at March 24, 2010 7:17 PM

"blamed on the university"???

Uh-uh, honey. This kind of politically correct tripe has been bedrock PoliSci/Sociology/Anthropology/related spinoff-ologies for many decades. So let me fix that for ya.

Should read: "blamed on universities".

There.

I'll give you a gold start in your notebook for effort, though.

Posted by: Louise at March 24, 2010 7:26 PM

Christopher: "What if I went on a visit to America and made a speech in public saying that we should kill Ann Coulter, carpet bomb her friends and families houses, and then force the survivors to convert to Islam? And then I'll call her a cunt and suggest that we should only fly on airlines that discriminate against white females, to avoid flying with Ann Coulter."


Well, you know Christopher, some things just get boring after so many repetitions. Why not come up with something more original.

Posted by: Louise at March 24, 2010 7:38 PM

I attended the London speech, with my lesbian lover who is in the Masters of Social Work program. Even my girlfriend, who has been inundated by indoctrination by the University, could not find anything Ann said that would be considered hateful.

Someone reported that she attacked gay activists in her speech. I can assure you that did not happen. She did say there had never been "straight only" water fountains.

Ann and I had a funny conversation before the event as we were having our photo taken together. I told her I'd post it on Facebook to make some of my lesbian friend's heads pop off, and Ann told me I needed to work harder at converting them. I agree.

Posted by: Kyla at March 24, 2010 7:45 PM

I keep reading that some Canadian MP made derogatory remarks about Ann Coulter sometime over the last day or two. Has anybody heard about this and do you know which parliamentarian it was? My bet is Jack Cartoon, but I could be wrong, I suppose. It has to have been a dipper, I would imagine.

Posted by: Louise at March 24, 2010 8:24 PM

If you do not believe in freedom of speech for the worst amongst us then you do not believe in freedom of speech. Christopher when you said "*is* a line" that gave you away to being the socialist you really are. Tell me who is to make the determination as to what hate speech is? You? Perhaps a commission, a human rights commission. But wait a minute wouldn't a human rights commission dictating what you say or cannot say go against the Canadian constitution? Why yes I do believe it would! Let the court of public opinion deal with her views and let them decide for themselves. And according to the most leftist poll I could find http://www.cbc.ca/news/pointofview/2010/03/ann-coulter.html
it would seem they are in agreement.There are two types of wrong speech in Canada, defamation and Incitement to commit violence, and from the examples you gave none fit either description."Should" makes it opinion not incitement. Agree or disagree to what Ann Coulter says remain in the purview of opinion, and when I checked last is still legal in this country. Plus I would like you to explain to me how being converted to Christianity is a bad thing. As a Christian I find the context in which you used that example very disturbing and hateful perhaps you should be charged.

Posted by: Warren Z at March 24, 2010 8:28 PM

Some idiot said: "If people on the right do not fight back hard all of our believes will soon be labeled hate speech."

Gee I wonder why that would be. (although personally I wouldn't call it hate speech so much as mentally retarded speech.)

BTW what are "beleives"? Guess you didn't make it past grade 5.

The one thing we know for sure from this whole debacle: Ann Coulter is a coward.

I don't think Ronnie Reagan would have chickened out the way she did.

I hope she sues though - it will be great to see her having to pay her opponents legal costs.

P.S. Ezra Levant the great defender of free speech - hmmmmm... where was he when George Galloway wasn't allowed in the country?? Oh Yeah - he was all for that. *hypocrital wanker*

Posted by: Ben Harper at March 24, 2010 9:22 PM

"You can't kill a cockroach that you can't see."

Skull at March 24, 2010 12:06 AM

Sure you can. You've got your Roach Motels (TM), your foggers, your random shooting from your .22 pistol (only feasible in a trailer), etc.

But, I get the gist of your post and I agree. This puts a big spotlight on your marxists up there.

Posted by: Jim Antley at March 24, 2010 9:22 PM

BTW, I have to ask: are there actually Canadians out there who think Ann Coulter is somehow an admirable person? I mean leaving aside the issue of freedom of speech and all that...

I really think there has to be something deeply wrong inside the head of anyone who admires her.

Posted by: Ben Harper at March 24, 2010 9:26 PM

Louise - I think it was Olivia Chow.

Posted by: ET at March 24, 2010 9:26 PM

This is something I never thought I'd say,Harper is such a left wing idiot.

Posted by: h.ryan at March 25, 2010 12:58 AM

I LOVE BC.
Posted by: chutzpahticular
So do I. Should have said Vancouver which I used to think was one of the most lovely cities on Earth. Till the socialists destroyed it. Basically just talking about is a love Government attitude.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at March 25, 2010 1:47 AM

Does anybody not get it?

What is most concerning is that these canadaians are supposed to be the best we have, the most educated, the most enlightened.

So here it is, I hope that I am not the only person who understands this cause then we really are doomed.

Ready for it?

Ann Caulter should NOT have been warned against saying ANYTHING AT ALL. In order to have free speech in this country she should be allowed to say whatever the hell she wants. And her opposers (the rest of the civilised world) is free to say whatever the heck they want. Its that simple.

Canada's "hate laws" are an assault on free speech - they should be abolished. They are subjective and dangerous - and eventually they will be corrupted for use against all "minority" groups; it will be a hate crime to say to someone that they look fat in that outfit (hate crime against the pudgy) or that you don't like their haircut (hate crime against spikey hair minority groups). It will be the perfect legislation to suppress all free speech and I am ashamed to live in the country that supports it.

All you do-gooders out there stop preaching and acting holier-than-thou like you are the morality police. You have NOT RIGHT to dictate morality to anyone, period. I would like to see whats in YOUR closet...hmmm?

Posted by: Where are the intellectuals? at March 25, 2010 5:49 AM

Ann Coulter was and is not afraid to debate with anyone. She was on the utterly hostile "View", for crying out loud. She would have debated anyone who questioned her after her speech, as she did in London Ontario. It was those thugs I saw as I stood in line, thugs who were the type to say, "f-you, f-you" to a grey-haired lady who tried to reason with them -- they were the ones who were afraid of debate, of free speech, and of letting anyone say anything they disagreed with. They were intimidating, fascist thugs who think everyone needs to think the same way as them. I was in line, and I wished there were barricades, when I saw them verbally abusing that old lady, and later on an old man as well. Not to mention the rest of us. The ones with the keffiyehs covering their mouths were especially creepy. OOOh, how brave and radical -- we hide our faces! Thugs. Shades of Kristellnacht -- book-ripping and burning-suggestions done by those unaware of the irony of doing this while accusing Ann of racism.

This was not a brave democratic shut-down of a 'hater.' This was fascism imposing its "correct-think" on others.

Posted by: deg at March 25, 2010 2:00 PM

People like T and his/hers/its ilk are cockroaches in society. Don't worry just remember while they are hiding under rocks for fear of exposure the rest of civilized society will be standing on those same rocks in victory

Posted by: Truth with power at March 26, 2010 11:12 AM

Ezra and Ann did not have the balls to risk facing substantive questions or an actual debate. Liars yes, but an effective troll of the entire country though.

"Kristellnacht" - ludicrous and laughable - Godwin strikes again.

Posted by: Ezra_Chickenshit at March 26, 2010 3:43 PM

Ezra and Ann did not have the balls to risk facing substantive questions or an actual debate. They're both liars, but have nevertheless managed an effective team troll of the entire country with a non-event. Canadian media sucks.

Oh, and "Kristellnacht" - ludicrous and laughable - Godwin strikes again.

Posted by: Ezra_Chickenshit at March 26, 2010 3:45 PM

Me? A sociacist? Ahahaha... so because I'm not a free speech absolutist that makes me a socialist. Great. That's nice how you just want to paint me as the red enemy so you can call me names now.

Being forced to be converted to any religion is a bad thing. Even Christianity. Nice job pretending to be offended... you just sound like a prick.

Posted by: Christopher at March 27, 2010 1:46 AM
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