"Sarah Palin was a blithering idiot until she became a devious genius." Ann Althouse has a way with words.

The "reality based" community responds.

"Daily Kos Yells at Media: Don't You See GOP Wants a 'Civil War'?"

"...the republican party has gone too far. That the primal scream of angry, hate filled, incoherent savagery on display is destroying the fabric of this country."

Yah, sure dood. Lemme wake up a bit more. I'll get right on it.

"These people are the crazed stalkers who would rather kill someone they claim to "love" then to see them not act exactly the way they want them to. They are unhinged."

...Right...right. New door hinges...hardware store. I'm on it...zzzzZZZZZZ

"Her remarks were carried live by C-SPAN and all three major cable-news networks and covered by 240 journalists at the convention hall"
How would you like your toast Mr. President?

Sarah Palin's voice may be somewhat shrill, but man, can she deliver the punch lines!

She is the antidote to the snake oil the Obama Democrats and the American MSM are currently selling.

The good part is that FOX News network is allowing her a platform.

What a pity Canada does not have a FOX equivalent.

But then again, is there in Canada anyone to speak the message that Sarah Palin is taking to the Americans?

Conrad Black, come back home as soon as is possible, we need a conservative medium news disseminator like FOX in Canada.

As I posted on Readers Tips, perhaps too late to be read, the latest unreported widely horror by Obama:

Obama: 'She insisted she's going to be buried in an Obama t-shirt'
Yes, those are the words of the president, last night at the Democratic National Committee fundraiser in Washington. After listing his administration's accomplishments and vowing that "our most urgent task is job creation," Obama pledged to keep fighting for a national health care system. "We knew this was hard," Obama said. And then he described a letter he received from a campaign worker who suffered from breast cancer and has since died:

I got a letter -- I got a note today from one of my staff -- they forwarded it to me -- from a woman in St. Louis who had been part of our campaign, very active, who had passed away from breast cancer. She didn't have insurance. She couldn't afford it, so she had put off having the kind of exams that she needed. And she had fought a tough battle for four years. All through the campaign she was fighting it, but finally she succumbed to it. And she insisted she's going to be buried in an Obama t-shirt.

Many observers have noted that the president often seems extraordinarily self-referential. It's all about him, they say. But even those critics might be a little taken aback by the "buried in an Obama t-shirt" remark. Is it really that much about him?

Others ask how some of Obama's statements would have been covered had George W. Bush made them -- for example, if Bush had pronounced "corpsman" as "corpse-man" (as Obama did twice at the National Prayer Breakfast). Had Bush mispronounced the word so badly -- and he did say some weird things -- it's likely many commentators would have rushed to fit it into their Bush-is-stupid narrative. Now, it's Obama who's sounding strange. And even putting aside the "corpsman" gaffe, what does the president's telling of the "buried in an Obama t-shirt" anecdote tell us about him? (By the way, this is not about the woman and her choice -- people do all sorts of things, and we respect the decisions they make -- but about the president's choosing to tell the story himself.)

The statement comes at 8:25 in a video. You can see that the crowd laughed after the "t-shirt" comment -- perhaps because they thought it was funny or perhaps because it made them a bit uneasy. In any event, Obama was serious.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-She-insisted-shes-going-to-be-buried-in-an-Obama-t-shirt-83645132.html#ixzz0eqzwN2gY

looking glass, like Ann Coulter says, if you want to know what the left is thinking, just look at what they are accusing the right of. well, if they really want war, and if they ask for it, they just might get it.

Palin represents some interesting contrasts and refreshing frankness coming back into the public dialogue. She's not afraid to mention God in her speeches but she has avoided identifying publicly the epicenter of America's fiscal and economic woe- the federal reserve system, it's funny money creation policies and the larcenous insider cartel who run it.

Until the American people realize this private central banking cartel is the root of their economy being stagnated through needless tax slavery and an unreliable inflationary currency, generations of Americans still unborn will be born into bondage to feed the debt governments create needlessly borrowing from this unaccountable banking junta.

Until I hear Palin openly advocate an economic revolution - Audit the Fed, Indict it's criminal cartel, go to a hard currency issued by the government not a private banking junta, I'll just mark Palin down as another status quo establishment GOP stumping to resurrect that failed party's fortunes with a disillusioned red state constituency.

For the first time evah,actually watched the commie news network last night to hear Palin,and what struck me after her speech was just how scared s*&tless the socialists are of her.I guess when you start spouting facts,and asking hard quesions(how's that hopey-changey thing working),the masters are afraid that the sheeple may start asking their own questions.Can't have that now,can we.
Some of the comments at Alhouse's are great."she's in it for the money".Oh? So why say,on the DemoRat network,that she was going to immediately give the check back for her speech?Oh wait.Giving back money?Not in the socialists lexicon.

Sarah Palin's voice may be somewhat shrill, but man, can she deliver the punch lines!

Plus, she's babelicious. Babetacular. Babetastic.

I get a thrill up my leg when I see her.

I LUUUUUV this woman ! - go girl, and keep your boot on the throats of these pompous windbags

but think of all the teleprompters that would be out of work, in landfills, pushing up daisies?

Tragic :)

I see the Palin bandwagon is starting to fill up.

I don't have any trouble with her as a lightening rod and as one voice (of many) for American conservatism. Same with Rush. Same with Beck. They are importance voices that push forward a true conservative agenda of smaller less invasive government.

But, I have HUUUGE issues with her as a presidential candidate.

We don't need "everyday people" running the US. We need the best, brightest, most thoughtful, best educated, and experienced. And YES, we need for them to be Reagan-like conservative statesmen.

Just as Obama was not qualified to be Prez, neither is Palin. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Where is the next great and unifying American conservative statesman? Palin is not that person.

Pick any domininant left leaning media meme,

and there's a good chance in actuality, the opposite will be the case.

Man made global warming anyone?

Right now the media also seems to be writing off Harper because he's neck and neck in the polls (though they never dare to mention the neck and nect tie with Dion, before voters were focused on an actual decision rather than general complaining).

Which means its probably a good time to buy Harper Majority stock on intrade.

"Which means its probably a good time to buy Harper Majority stock on intrade."

If the Liberals are going to hang their re election hopes on universal daycare the Conservatives will get a majority in the next election. There are more children than guns in Canada and if the Liberals can go over budget by 1000% on the Gun Registry how do you think they'll manage when they have to do the paperwork on living breathing children.

The opposite:

O was a devious genius until he became a blithering idiOt.

I can't help but wonder what John McCain thinks of Palinmania. First he thought he was a genius for bringing her on as a VP candidate then he blamed her for his defeat and joined with the masses who had great sport trying to tear her to pieces. It seems as though Palin is getting the last laugh and all that goes with it while not many even remember Johnny Mc. I don't know how Sarah would do in big politics or even how intelligent she may be but I certainly give her credit and admire her. She doesn't let anyone put her down and isn't afraid to step up or go for a goal, whatever it may be.

Speaking of Sarah's ability to speak without the use of a teleprompter and Obama's total reliance.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/09/hey-barack.html

old Lori said: We don't need "everyday people" running the US. We need the best, brightest, most thoughtful, best educated, and experienced. And YES, we need for them to be Reagan-like conservative statesmen.

I understand your thought, I wonder if Obama is even thinking "D*** this job is hard!" However, Lori, all presidents are mere humans, and wasn't Reagan a Governor just as Palin was? I think the talent that is needed is that of a good manager, which is the skill that governing requires. Reagan was a brilliant manager. My feeling is we need a few more every day talented managers in government. I guess that's why it used to be old guys who had done something in their lives who ran for office. Now we've got 18 yr old state governor wannabees. (Huckabee last night). The Americans have discovered, I think, that it does matter who they vote for and that elections are more than just a November version of American Idol.

Palin has an absolutely unique role in American politics. This is due to her being a political and not an entertainment or media public figure.

She is the voice of the people of America. That's an astonishing role. The people of America have come together against Big Government, and that's both Democrat and Republican Big Government and are speaking out in defense of their Constitution and conservative limited government.

This movement has exploded in the one year since Obama took office. Obama and the Democrats have tried to ignore it or have smeared it with name-calling and contempt. It has continued to grow as Obama's poll numbers drop.

Importantly, Palin rejects being the leader of the Tea Party movement. She made it clear that there should be no leader; that they are not sheep; that they are, themselves, the People and that is all that is required. That is, she acknowledges - something that the Obama gang do not- that The People are the government and have the brains to be that government.

But what she is doing is articulating their concerns and outlining their aims of limited government, the free market, tax cuts, a focus on small business and an adherence to the Constitution.

All of this is said clearly, simply and, because she is a political figure, it's all on the political scene. That acts as a major confrontational force to the statist take-over agenda of the Obama Gang.

Then, besides expressing this conservative agenda, which she says anyone in any party can accept: Democrat or Republican - she is going around endorsing candidates who support these aims. Again, a powerful force.

Now, what will the statist gang of Obama do? They've tried and will probably continue the personal vilification of Palin, but this will only make them look bad. Obama is trying to seem 'personable' but his overwhelming narcissism and elitist contempt for people makes this difficult.

After all, we've heard that the White House visitor walls are now covered with pictures of Obama. Not pictures of past presidents, or great events in American history or scenes of America. Nope. Pictures of Obama, Obama, Obama.

Funniest thing I read on Althouse is a guy by the alias of AllenS chastising a troll by saying
" Alpha, I don't think Obama wants you to read blogs! "
What a great putdown on both trolls and lieberals at the same time. I hope to see that used here on SDA.

Sarah Palin's voice may be somewhat shrill, but man, can she deliver the punch lines!

As long as she's got them written down on her hands. Imagine. Cheat note talking points for her tea bagger Q&A. I'm shaking in my Birkenstocks, but it ain't from fear.

I normally run hot and cold about Andrew Breitbart, but his latest idea is outstanding:

Stop thinking of Palin as the next President.

Start thinking of her as the next Oprah.

I am just gald to see conservatives standing up and speaking out and that the media finally is paying attention.

If Sarah Palin is part of getting that to happen then it is a good thing. Her popularity is actually a by product of the Liberal hatered of her, the more they attack the more she is defended because she is "just like me" and it exposes a bias that they cannot seem to restrain in regards to attacking her. Sarah Plain is the worse thing to happen to liberal media, ever.

My favorite part of the convention is still Breitbart "Its not your business model that sucks, its you that sucks"

phil @ 11:07, I am extremeley disgusted with your choice of words, that expression you and your ilk use belongs on a hard core porn site. Disgusting pig go crawl back under your rock.

old Lori - I think the jury is still out on Palin. I'm not ready to throw her under the bus on whether or not she is presidential material.

You are wrong to compare her abilities to Chairman O's. Palin has a record of accomplishment actually running things and a successful one at that. She is a former Mayor and Govenor. Her approval rating in these endeavour was very high.

Now compare that to the Chairman.

Your argument that compares her to the Totus doesn't pass muster.

If you're going to make a case for her not being Prez material you will have to offer concrete points to support that thesis. So far you've offered none - zero - zilch.

Mentioning the woman that wanted to be buried in the T-shirt I was struck by one thing. He did not give her name. Now if she felt as it appeared she did, she would have been honoured if he had. When bambam can make political hay, he does. So I don't know if she is a figment or not.

[T]he question of Ms. Palin’s ambitions and abilities remain as much a mystery now as when she first stormed the national consciousness 18 months ago.

Sarah Palin: Slayer of Dragons, Tea Party Guiding Light, and King Maker.

She is a beautiful human being.
No doubt the Obamanation fears her.

John Chapter 1
5 And the light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not.

So be disgusted, kelly.
the debut of the Palin Palm Pilot during the tea party speech. You may know it as the iQuit?
Run, Sarah, run.

I don't think that Palin should run for president. Certainly not now. Maybe never.

My reason is that I think she has a far more important role - the public political articulation of The People. The American people as they really are. Now. The Constitution as it is. In other words - the articulation of reality.

She couldn't do this if she were running in a party campaign because then she'd be speaking for the ideology of the Republican Party. But at the moment, she's not speaking 'for' any party. She's speaking for the reality of the American people and that includes independents, Republicans and Democrats.

As she said, she'll endorse any candidate regardless of political party, if they support the basic themes of conservativism: small non-intrusive govt, lowering of taxes, focus on small business and private ownership in a free market economy and a strong defense. That's it.

Being the Voice of America is at the moment, a vital, an extremely important role. She's perfect for it - and that's where she should be.

What I find fascinating is how the statist elitist left is going to deal with this. They've tried the smear tactics - and how childish that is, as evinced by phil here. That won't work; the dirt sticks to the left.

And trying to get Obama the narcissist to be a 'man of the people' is impossible. His favourite word (I, me, my); the walls of the White House covered with pictures of Himself..and remember his gift to the Queen: an ipod with his speeches on it!

He is unable to interact with people without his teleprompter; that's why they've stopped all press Q&A meetings since July. He, and the Gang who run him are trapped in ideology, a utopian vision of what 'ought to be', without any interest in the real world of whether Americans want their fictional world.

So, how does a fictional world deal with the real world? That's fascinating.

"wasn't Reagan a Governor just as Palin was".

Yes. But Reagan's mettle and ideas were formed by 40 years of conservative activism and especially two terms as the Governor of California. Palin does not compare.

Small town mayor x 6 years, small state Governor x 2-3 years, quit in mid term. Sorry, that does not pass muster. Yes, it's probably better than 0bama. Does that make it right? 0bama is the least qualified president in history, the ultimate expression of affirmative action. Is that the bar we have now set for the next president?

I do, very much, like the idea as noted above of Palin as the next Oprah. A person around whom conservative voices can rally. That's an excellent role for her. Yes, she's a great speaker.

But is this the person you want sitting down in the oval office making decisions that shake the world. What experience does she have to draw upon? What broad understanding of human issues, obtained through education, experience, and travel can she bring? Sorry. No. The founding fathers of the US were men of deep learning, and engaged in prolonged and deep debate, and this is what led to the birth of the most brilliant and most successful governance structure in human history. The compromise of the principles of the Constitution can be seen in every major failure of the United States in the past century. Every mistake they have made was predicted in the writings of Jefferson and Adams and Madison.

I am not asking for another Thomas Jefferson at this point. Hell, he probably would get massacred by the poisonous politics that we have these days, but we need a person of stature. We have not had a great US president in a long time, since Reagan. Can't the US come up with such a person at least once a generation? If not, then truly the future looks dim.

Oh, did I also mention that besides needing cheat notes to get through a sycophantic softball interview before an adoring audience, Palin is also a tax cheat.?

But Reagan's mettle and ideas were formed by 40 years of conservative activism and especially two terms as the Governor of California.
~old Lori

Ronald Reagan was a registered Democrat until 1962 when he switched to the Republican Party.
He became President in 1981.

Actually old Lori, ordinary people are exactly who needs to be running America. At its base is the very concept that all men are created equal. This elitist ideal is what is getting them into the glue in the first place. I've been around long enough to have known men and women of genius in all walks of life. One of my favorite Presidents couldn't make it as a farmer or a haberdasher so he became president. I'm not sold on Palin but I won't discount her because she doesn't fit the elite.

But Reagan's mettle and ideas were formed by 40 years of conservative activism and especially two terms as the Governor of California.
~old Lori

Ronald Reagan was a registered Democrat until 1962 when he switched to the Republican Party.
He became President in 1981.
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Errr... OK.. So I was off by one year because I rounded off to the nearest decade.... Your point?

And Joe, with respect, the Founding Fathers were not ordinary people. Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson are two of the most brilliant thinkers of any time. Einstein had issues holding a job.

My understanding of the "all men are created equal" bit is that they all have the same inalienable rights. None have more rights than others. But problem solving skills, intellect, artistic talent, physical prowess, and strength of will are not given out equally at birth. I know genius mechanics, laboratory researchers, doctors, and librarians. They are geniuses at what they do. They would not be capable of managing the amount and complexity of information that a POTUS has to deal with. Further, they do not have the philosophical, cultural, and moral grounding to equitably manage the conflicts that a POTUS must resolve.

The resolution of conflict between competing interests and ideas is probably the most important role of a leader like the president. Within their own close advisors, within their own government apparatus, and within the nation they govern. This, by the way, is entirely why 0bama is failing.

This "conflict management" skill is in part a talent, I believe, but it is also something learned through life, through perspective, and through the actual practice of the skill during the course of a life. It's the reason why age is respected in all cultures. It's the reason why a 40 year old should not be president unless there is something truly extraordinary about them.

Palin is not qualified.

"It's okay for Rush to say 'retard' because...well just because I say so!"

But Reagan's mettle and ideas were formed by 40 years of conservative activism and especially two terms as the Governor of California.
~old Lori

Ronald Reagan was a registered Democrat until 1962 when he switched to the Republican Party.
He became President in 1981.
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Errr... OK.. So I was off by one year because I rounded off to the nearest decade.... Your point?

And Joe, with respect, the Founding Fathers were not ordinary people. Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson are two of the most brilliant thinkers of any time. Einstein had issues holding a job.

My understanding of the "all men are created equal" bit is that they all have the same inalienable rights. None have more rights than others. But problem solving skills, intellect, artistic talent, physical prowess, and strength of will are not given out equally at birth. I know genius mechanics, laboratory researchers, doctors, and librarians. They are geniuses at what they do. They would not be capable of managing the amount and complexity of information that a POTUS has to deal with. Further, they do not have the philosophical, cultural, and moral grounding to equitably manage the conflicts that a POTUS must resolve.

The resolution of conflict between competing interests and ideas is probably the most important role of a leader like the president. Within their own close advisors, within their own government apparatus, and within the nation they govern. This, by the way, is entirely why 0bama is failing.

This "conflict management" skill is in part a talent, I believe, but it is also something learned through life, through perspective, and through the actual practice of the skill during the course of a life. It's the reason why age is respected in all cultures. It's the reason why a 40 year old should not be president unless there is something truly extraordinary about them.

Palin is not qualified.

Plus, she's babelicious. Babetacular. Babetastic.
I get a thrill up my leg when I see her.
Posted by: PiperPaul at February 7, 2010 9:14 AM

Which leg?

Great post, Joe @ 12:10

Errr... OK.. So I was off by one year because I rounded off to the nearest decade.... Your point?
~old Lori

You were off by 19 years.
That's off by half, if you round up by decades.
You know someone is a Liberal when they think the difference between 1962 and 1981 is 40 years.
Liberals can't do math.

Rush Limbaugh can say "retard" because he doesn't claim to be PC, politically correct.
In fact Rush doesn't buy into the speech restrictions of political correctness at all.

When someone who lives by political correctness says "retard", they are breaking their own rules and being a hypocrite.

I like her other hair-do better :)

Olby and Mattews go into a ballistic, male chauvinist rant whenever they hear her name or see her in action. As some have mentioned here, perhaps she could do more for America and the world as an organizer and a media personality.

The biggest problem in the world today is the media. She could squelch the idiots with a better product. As President the media attacks would be petty, relentless and distracting. The Olbermanns and the Matthews of the world know no shame.

phil @ 12:02, you slimeball, if there was a shred of truth to your charge that Palin is a tax cheat she'd have been crucified by opponents with more guts and money than you.

But just like those ethics charges and every other attempt at slander made by your kind of gutless gigolo, even those with more money and opportunity than you, they never are pursued beyond the whisper and media-leak stage.

This is just the media desperately needing to change the topic from Obama's recent failings. Wait til the GOP selects its candidate for 2012, I'm sure MSM is salivating at ripping him/her to shreds.

Errr... OK.. So I was off by one year because I rounded off to the nearest decade....

At both ends.

The resolution of conflict between competing interests and ideas is probably the most important role of a leader like the president.
~old Lori

Please demonstrate with an example why, in your opinion, you think Sarah Palin has come up short in this "most important role".

When someone who lives by political correctness says "retard", they are breaking their own rules and being a hypocrite.

No, oz, when it was reported that Emanuel used the word in a private meeting -- one time -- Palin quickly took to Facebook and, mentioning Emanuel by name, called on President Obama to fire him. When Limbaugh repeatedly used the term on his radio show, Palin did nothing.
As usual, Palin is the hypocrite, but what can you expect from a tax fraud and softball interview cheat, quitter and serial liar?

We can analyze and suggest all we want but ...

[ Sarah Palin has President Obama in her sights, telling FoxNews.com she "would be willing" to challenge him in the 2012 presidential race.]

Emmanuel is Chief of Whitehouse Staff.
His job is to ride herd over people who make such gaffs, especially since being PC is what Liberals are all about.
He broke his own rules.

Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer.
Rush didn't break any of his own rules, and probably not the terms of his employment contract, he was holding Emmanuel to Emmanuel's own standards.
Rush can say "retard" or any other word his contract permits.

Next you'll be saying that Mark Steyn should be prosecuted by the CHRC for merely quoting some Imam or Ayatollah in a McLean's column and discussing the quote.

It' isn't a surprise that you can't comprehend the difference, phil.

Will Palin run for POTUS? Who knows...but I would much rather see a person like her running the show than most Harvard or Yale graduates. Given the quality of work and ideas coming out of the universities, it's doubtful that the "best, brightest, most thoughtful, best educated" will come out the todays Ivy League. This is not an aversion to higher education but an observation of how distorted and mindless higher education has become.

Experience is important but so is the type of experience. A candidate with experience in the business world or military is far better grounded than lifer politicians, career students, and community organizers. Today it is the voice of the middle and entrepreneurial class that speaks with clarity and confidence. We need more doers and less borg-like technocrats.

I sometimes think we overestimate Sarah Palin's effect on the political climate, but then I see the endless, whiny posts by idiot boy phil and I realize just how much she's scaring the liberal and democratic left. I'd sooner see her working outside government, though, because I think she can play a unique role by keeping the conservative movement truly conservative. Oh, and by annoying pissants like phil.

This calculation is rather challenging to me. Subtractin 1962 from 1981, placing it beside, above, below, somehow wont make 40.
old Lori, help me out.
Thanks

"O'REILLY: When you go on vacation, it must be very difficult. It is for me.
PALIN: It is.
O'REILLY: No. 1, no hotel will take my reservation, because they hate me. But, No. 2, everybody is staring at you.
PALIN: We have found that the most secure and calming vacation we can take is out in the middle of nowhere at our cabin in Petersville, which is 75 miles in Alaska.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/hotelcheckin/post/2010/01/fox-commentator-bill-oreilly-to-sarah-palin-no-hotel-will-take-my-reservation/1

There happens to be two "cabins" and a large shop for snowmobiles and ATVs. Yet, there is a $0 value regarding any buildings on the property.
http://www.matsugov.us/myproperty/detail.aspx?taxID=2357B04L010-1

Compounding her deceit with hypocrisy:
In 2004, it came to light that Republican Rep. Vic Kohring owed the borough $2,277 in unpaid property taxes on property he owns off Knik-Goose Bay Road, according to borough records. “That bothered former Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin enough that she declined a campaign request to do a pro-Kohring TV commercial. As a former mayor, Palin said, it made her uncomfortable to back someone with unpaid taxes when the city relies on property taxes.” [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 10/28/04]

Run, Sarah, run.

Sarah Palin endorses people with sensible "people" ideas not particularly a party . IMO that would make a pretty decent Independent President.

Paranormal embellishment.

Looks like phil is fully engaged in paranormal embellishment (saw that somewhere and thought it fits).
One needs a whole lot of feeling and phantasm to come up with silly statements like phil.
Don’t want to engage the pheeling phil, only to point out that two cabins and a large shop for snowmobiles don’t make middle of nowhere into a metropolis.
How one equates that with hypocrisy is devoid of logic, however it make phil feel good, go for it.

when the city relies on property taxes

You are conflating a rural assessment not town or city, which says she has been assessed for zero taxes on the rural buildings, with Sarah Palin's tax forms.
You haven't seen Sarah Palins tax forms have you, phil?

Do you know Alaskan property tax law?
Probably not.

I wouldn't be surprised if Alaskan land were taxed, but private rural development isn't if no government services are delivered to the property.
Alaska is like that, they want to encourage people to move there and develop.

The MSM went over Sarah Palin with a microscope in 2008 and found nothing to smear her with.

That assessment service is in the public domain.
The MSM would have seen the assessment for 2006, 2007, 2008.

You have neither proof that she even owed taxes on her rural property nor proof didn't pay any taxes if they were owed.
In short, you have baselessly slandered Sarah Palin, phil.

celina at February 7, 2010 12:33 PM
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There are trolls, agent provocateurs and flame-baiters on the internet.

celina appears to be a master baiter.

Ouch, sorry, that was bad.

It was the middle one.

Re: reagan

he was nominally a registered dem until '62, but he became publically a conservative at least as early as '52. And many dems in the forties were conservatives especially in california texas and in Dixie. So saying forty years isn't as far off the mark as it might seem.

2. Reagan was actually as pretty weak manager - too lassiz faire esp. In the second term. His strength was his rock hard set of values and his intellegence and distillation of those values that made unparalelled in his ability to communicate those values.

Oz: If somebody expresses the opinion that Sarah Palin doesn't have what it takes to be President, that doesn't make him a liberal. What a foolish thing to imply!

I'm with Old Lori. I like Palin but don't think she has what it takes to be POTUS -- more so after watching her interview with Chris Wallace this morning on Fox News Sunday.

The comparisons of Palin with Reagan and Thatcher that we read from commenters on SDA from time to time have little foundation and are based on superficial arguments (to put it as mildly as I can).

Gordon Tulk, if we stipulate the starting point of Ronald Reagan's "conservatism" at 52 that is still only 29 years not 40.

But being a conservative member of the Democrat Party and being a conservative activist are not the same thing, so I'm going with conservative activist since 1962, wich is only 19 years.
Nice try though, Gordon.

You are conflating a rural assessment not town or city, which says she has been assessed for zero taxes on the rural buildings, with Sarah Palin's tax forms.

No, she has declared the value of buildings on her property at $0.00 when clearly the value is substantially higher. That's fraud.
Now I typed that really, really slowly so that even the retarded could grasp it, so there may be hope for lev ans oz. sda nation, your idol has feet of clay.

ET: "He is unable to interact with people without his teleprompter; that's why they've stopped all press Q&A meetings since July."

But it doesn't explain why he did a Q&A with the Republicans a week ago without the aid of his teleprompter. Just saying.

Incidentally, pointing this out doesn't make me a liberal.

//Ms. Palin has also enlisted a small team of policy counselors to guide her through the substantive areas in which many deemed her to be lacking in 2008....//

But the real entertainment came during the post-speech Q&A, when Palin fielded a few "pre-screened, pre-selected" questions. She was asked what Congress's top three priorities should be, if "conservatives" retake the majorities in both chambers. She said lawmakers' priorities should be to (1) cut federal spending, though she didn't say where, (2) adopt a conservative energy policy, and (3) turn to "our creator." Seriously.

This was the third part of her answer, verbatim: "I think, kind of tougher to, um, put our arms around, but allowing America's spirit to rise again by not being afraid to kind of go back to some of our roots as a God fearing nation where we're not afraid to say, especially in times of potential trouble in the future here, where we're not afraid to say, you know, we don't have all the answers as fallible men and women so it would be wise of us to start seeking some divine intervention again in this country, so that we can be safe and secure and prosperous again. To have people involved in government who aren't afraid to go that route, not so afraid of the political correctness that you know -- they have to be afraid of what the media said about them if they were to proclaim their alliance on our creator."

For those keeping track, the first part of that answer was a 100-word run-on sentence.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_02/022286.php

But it doesn't explain why he did a Q&A with the Republicans a week ago without the aid of his teleprompter. Just saying.

Quite right. He had the Republicans in the palm of his hand.
And what did quittercheater Palin have in the palm of her hand at the tea bagger lovefest?

I like Palin but don't think she has what it takes to be POTUS.~mj

Please tell me "what it takes" to be POTUS and then tell me why, with examples from Sarah Palin's record, why she doesn't have "what it takes."
Thank you in advance, mj.
p.s. I didn't say old Lori, was a Liberal for saying that Sarah Palin "didn't have what it takes", but she certainly seems to be bereft of examples for why she might reasonably hold that opinion other than age bigotry.

-For those keeping track, the first part of that answer was a 100-word run-on sentence.
~dizzy

Sarah Palin's "100 word run-on sentence" was given orally not written, yes?

So what you are saying is that the people who transcribed her oral response punctuated it to make it look like a 100 word run-on sentence.

Nothing new here.

old Lori - just how old are you? I challenged you to justify your comparison of Palin to Chairman O. You still haven't done that. Instead you spout numbers on Reagan and you're totally out in "left" field on that.

I think you're basing your opinion on her like many "liberated" women. You're afraid of her. She threatens many women because she is bright, strong, capable and likeable.

Imagine that - a woman who has it all. Pretty scary huh?

He(Obama) had the Republicans in the palm of his hand.
~phil

I saw a section of that session.
When the Republicans laughed at his claim to not being an ideologue, my image of Obama wasn't quite that he had them in the palm of his hand.
Interpretations do vary.

Tax cheat?

Surely then, the Obamination must have some position to appoint her to...

the chief executive need not be the "best and the brightest". chief executives, in business or government, are successful when they are clear on their beliefs and objectives. This allows them to DELEGATE authority which in turn allows the business at hand to get done. In the military it is called staff work: the general decides the overall thrust of the campaign and the staff officers sweat the details of what units need to be moved where, how much material needs to be supplied, etc.
Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Reagan, Churchill (during wartime) and Thatcher did this and were successful. They also recognized when something was not working and took action to get it back on the rails. LBJ, Nixon, Carter, Joe Clark and Mulroney became bogged down in the details because they didn't really know what they wanted other than they wanted to in charge.
So far, Obama has delegated everything but as he is unclear on his objectives, those to whom he delegated the work have made a complete cock-up of the show. I predict Obama will start getting involved in the details to "rescue" his administration but as he still is unclear as to his goals other than to be in charge it will bog down.
From what I read of Palin's chief exeutive stints, she is clear on her objectives and does delegate the details. Given her political smarts, she has the potential to be a solid POTUS.

If the "tax cheat" comment is in reference to any of Palin's property in Wasilla, then it is an outright lie. There are NO property tax levies in Wasilla because all municipal finances are gleaned from a municipal sales tax.Anyone who has taken the time to read her book should be aware of that fact.
As much as I like and admire Palin, I think it would be premature for her to run as a POTUS candidate in 2012. I personally think she needs a term or two in the senate to gain some further knowledge and experience at the federal level. After that, go for it!!

This calculation is rather challenging to me. Subtractin 1962 from 1981, placing it beside, above, below, somehow wont make 40.
old Lori, help me out.
Thanks
Posted by: Lev

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heh.... brain fart. My bad. Doing too many things at once.

Rest of the discussion stands, though. You can't compare Palin's experience to Reagan's. That's just laughable.

The resolution of conflict between competing interests and ideas is probably the most important role of a leader like the president.
~old Lori

Please demonstrate with an example why, in your opinion old Lori, you think Sarah Palin has come up short in this "most important role".

I'd like a good laugh.
Thank you in advance.

If the "tax cheat" comment is in reference to any of Palin's property in Wasilla, then it is an outright lie.

If it was, it may be, but of course it refers to her property in Petersville, 100 miles away by road.

phil

Typical, hate-filled, ignorant, liberal. Nothing to add to the discussion but bile and vitriol. What a sad excuse for a human being.

Sarah Pallin scared the hell outa the "progressives" instantly......because they instinctively recognized her merits....a species of left-handed endorsement. (perhaps a pun)
Sorta funny...despite Phil's, oh so obvious, trolling----for all practical terms he is more principled than "old lori".
Phil makes his political position clear and unambiguous.
"old lori" begins by declaring herself a conservative and then proceeds to espouse the same crap as Phil.
In my books Phil is a lefty troll but old lori is a lefty super troll.

Matanuska-Susitna borough tax assessment link has been posted above by yourself, phil.
Sarah and Todd Palin were assessed no taxes on the buildings by the borough itself.
You think that the borough doesn't know that they have development on the property?
You and your ilk had better let them know, then.

How is it that Sarah is a tax cheat?

Here is a link to Alaska tax law.

http://www.commerce.state.ak.us/dca/osa/pub/08Taxable.pdf

In my books Phil is a lefty troll but old lori is a lefty super troll.
~sasquatch

old Lori appears to be a "concern troll".
That is a troll who poses as a conservative but has unspecified unexplainable concerns about why some situation or personage is not doable or acceptable.

No examples of why, it just is.

Feeeelings, woa, woa, woa, feelings./off Barbara Streisand

A sound example of why Sarah Palin can't consistently "resolve conflict between competing interests and ideas" or "doesn't have what it takes" after explaining what exactly it takes in the first place might change my mind about old Lori.

Old Lori - You can hardly describe your postings as "discussion". You make assersions but don't back them up with any substantive points. You put forth "substantiations" on Reagan and they are proveably false.

"You can't compare Palin's experience to Reagan's. Just who is making that comparison? But if that comparison is laughable then your comparison of Chairman O's experience to Palins is surely ludicrous.

It's been suggested that she's in it for the money.

Her financial position has certainly gotten rosier since she was picked as the VP candidate.

Well ... good for her.

There's nothing wrong with doing well by doing good: it's the quintessential American way.

The USA is a better place for having Sarah Palin as a part of it.

records show that Sarah Palin hasn't paid any property taxes on cabins that have been built on two backcountry plots partially owned by the former Alaska governor.

There are no tax assessments for the two-story, house-sized cabins, a workshop and a sauna spotted Thursday in an aerial survey. Property taxes totaling $156.13 were paid on the land in 2009 — but that bill did not include anything for the structures because the local assessor didn't know about the new construction nearly 100 miles north of Anchorage.

The issue has attracted the attention of local tax officials who conducted the scheduled aerial survey of properties in the area on Thursday. The area is accessible only by floatplane, snowmobile or four-wheeler.

Dave Dunivan, the assessor for the Matanuska-Susitna Borough, said such a survey had not been done there in five years, before construction started on the cabins.

Posted by: Oz
// Sarah Palin's "100 word run-on sentence" was given orally not written, yes?
So what you are saying is that the people who transcribed her oral response punctuated it to make it look like a 100 word run-on sentence.
Nothing new here. //

Right. Let's see you try to punctuate it. Calling it a sentence at was probably wrong. It's actually a gushing torrent of verbigeration.
And as you say, "nothing new"

mj - Obama didn't do a valid Q7A with the Republicans.

The pre-session agreement was that NO follow up questions were allowed; that is, the Republicans were only allowed to 'ask a question'..and Obama then pontificated for ten minutes. His misinformation, his outright lies, his deviations...could not be confronted. No follow-up questions allowed. No requests to deal with the lies, the evasions.

phil - what are you talking about: cheat notes? Kindly explain.

old lori - you can't equate Einstein to Franklin and Jefferson. There's no analogy. Einstein was a nuclear scientist; Franklin, a master of mechanical science; Jefferson a master of political structure. How can you compare or equate them? And to say that Einstein 'had trouble holding a job' is an ad hominem red herring.

I also disagree that 'conflict management' is the most important function of a POTUS. He's not a social worker. He's supposed to be a leader, committed to the well-being of his country and abiding by the constitution, and, representing the will of the people. Obama is failing because as an elitist and anti-American and relativist, he rejects all these agendas.

dizzy - your 100 word comment is irrelevant. She was giving an ORAL answer. Not writing a text. Oral communication doesn't necessarily show the 'periods'...except within pauses and emphases. So, what's your point?

phil - could you substantiate your 'tax cheat' and 'serial liar'?
With regard to 'tax cheat' that would be valid only if she was assessed for X-sum (as were members of Obama's administration) and did not pay it. Is this the case?

As for 'quitter' that's your subjective opinion. Frankly, you don't seem to provide much beyond your subjective mindset.

Did you know that Obama quit his term as Senator? And that his indifference to his position as president (chief editor) of the Harvard Law Review meant that others had to step in and do all the work while he did nothing?
Are you aware that Obama is a pathological liar? He says whatever it takes to each audience to get them on His side. Doesn't bother you, I'll bet!

By the way, I'll maintain that Obama is not, himself, an idealogue; that is, someone who has researched, analyzed and therefore follows an ideology. Obama is extremely ignorant of history, economics, science..everything, and is intellectually lazy and shallow. He is one thing only: a clinical pathological narcissist. Period.

His only agenda is to control others into a state of adulation. Immersing himself in the political left is a key tactic to achieve this goal. That's because the left is an elitist ideology, setting itself up, with its statist goals of control over the unwashed ignorant people, as Governors, as Rulers, as the Only-Ones-Who-Know. And expecting the unwashed to obey. As Obama insists: 'Just do as I say.' So there.

But the people aren't peasants, despite the leftist view that they are...and Palin is expressing their rebellion at the leftist hubris.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-us-palin-property-taxes,0,7699231.story

Welcome back, ET.

"Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin didn't cage her answer when pressed Sunday morning as to whether she would consider a run for president in 2012.

"I would, I would if I believe that is the right thing to do for our country and the Palin family. Certainly I would do so," she told "Fox News Sunday," in an interview that was taped before she addressed a Tea Party convention the night before. "I think that it would be absurd to not consider what it is that I could potentially do to help our country ... . I won't close a door that perhaps could be open for me in the future.""
Via HotAir
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/07/palin-considering-2012-ru_n_452602.html

Hillary, how are those sleeping pills working out for you?

It's been suggested that she's in it for the money.Her financial position has certainly gotten rosier since she was picked as the VP candidate.
Unfortunately POK, it may well be. After her defeat as VP candidate, she was deluged with literally hundreds of lawsuits ( all dismissed eventually) that she and her family had to defend on their own dime. The MSM and her detractors had a heyday with it. The tolerant Left just about ruined the family financially.
Personally, I hope she prevails and has an opportunity to ram it up the collective assholes of the MSM-sideways.

old lori - you can't equate Einstein to Franklin and Jefferson. There's no analogy. Einstein was a nuclear scientist; Franklin, a master of mechanical science; Jefferson a master of political structure. How can you compare or equate them? And to say that Einstein 'had trouble holding a job' is an ad hominem red herring.

I also disagree that 'conflict management' is the most important function of a POTUS. He's not a social worker. He's supposed to be a leader, committed to the well-being of his country and abiding by the constitution, and, representing the will of the people. Obama is failing because as an elitist and anti-American and relativist, he rejects all these agendas.
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ET - with regard to Ben Franklin, my understanding was that he made substantive contributions to the Revolution far beyond his role as a scientist. He was a diplomat who played a vital role in foreign relations, an editor, publisher and printer, the key proponent of the "taxation without representation" argument for the colonies, etc. He was one of the intellectual leaders, not just a mechanic.

The point about Einstein was made in response to a comment about geniuses in everyday life that had been raised earlier. I think it confused the issue and regret mentioning it.

And we will have to agree to disagree about the importance of conflict management in the role of the POTUS. An effective leader unifies people behind him/her, whether at the workplace, or at the town hall. We can agree that 0bama is a failure. You say it's because of his elitism, narcicism, relativism, etc. I say he is failure because his elitism, narcicism, and relativism prevent him from reconciling opinions that differ from his own in a manner that an effective leader should. He seems to have no true compromise in him - just backing down when smelling defeat.

All successul politicians must at some point listen to their opponents and make some modification to some of their positions. This is a skill that comes with age and experience, and occasionally a few personal humiliations. Egomaniacs like 0bama can't do this. I do not believe that Palin would do better. And that's my personal opinion - based on my personal life experience and what I have seen of Palin so far.

Frankly, I think it's a sad and telling comment on our society that grown adults use a term like "retard" in a derogatory manner - whether Emmanuel or Limbaugh does it.

Have things fallen so low that adults use a term that ridicules a genetic condition that the sufferers have no control over? There used to be basic decency that stopped people from making comments slamming innocent people who suffer from such misfortunes. Now all that's gone, I guess.

No-one can claim it's simply a matter of PC to refrain from making such statements. Again, it's a matter of basic decency.

That goes for the multitude of posters on this site as well, who repeatedly use the term "leftards".

In view of this, Palin's verbal gymastics to justify Limbaugh's use of the term, while she demands that Emmanuel be fired for it, shows that she does not possess this basic decency herself and sees the entire issue as a political football she can use. If it is wrong for Emanuel to use the term - and it is - it is wrong for Limbaugh to use it.

A case can be made that Limbaugh's use of the term was worse given that he made it over public airwaves to millions of people, while Emanuel apparently used it in private conversation.

In refusing to condemn Limbaugh, Palin - in addition to revealing her own intellectual unfitness in her transparently nonsensical rationalization - betrays her very own child, refusing to condemn someone who maligns him, for the sake of sucking up to the great Limbaugh.

It shows how cynical she is - to her the whole issue is just something to use for political gain - even if that gain involves allowing her son to be insulted.

Why she even bothers is a mystery since 71% of the public doesn't even want her to RUN for President, much less win.

Leave the social worky-conflict resolution stuff to the soft lefties. It's the tough decision making and 'cleaning-up' that Palin is very adept at and proved so in her years as governor. She made enemies in the GOP because she had to clean up their mess in Alaska. Makes you wonder who wanted her less in Washington?
Read the book.
And don't foget: her book was analysed and scrutinised by those eleven oh-so-busy AP reporter/journalist/poodles and they couldn't find any lies.
The GOP thought she was just eye candy, and treated her as such. When she was bold enough to step out of the box during the campaign, and speak without the permission of 'headquarters' they rebuked her.
Hence the title of her book,she was "Going Rogue".

Limbaugh used the term retard in a satiric comment which referred to Emmanuel's previous comment. And of course everyone jumped on it though for sure they knew he used it in satire.

phil - the reality is that Palin is not a tax cheat; her property assessment - and it's the borough that does the assessments - has been paid, on time, and in full. The fact that buildings have been constructed - on her as well as other area lots - and the borough has not changed the assessment is up to the borough. Kindly stick to the facts and the world of reality rather than the fictional world.

Equally, IF that 'hand' with one-word (and I see you are a Huffington devotee) is not photoshopped but is true - and this has to be proven - so what? That's not cheat notes! Those are key words (energy, tax cuts). Do you seriously consider that these are 'cheat notes'?

Do you know what that term means? It means the formula of a problem, i.e., mathematical; or the answer to a problem, i.e., dates,content etc. But key words? What kind of informational content is contained in the word 'energy'? Hmmm? Tell us.

Your hostility to Palin is obvious, but please, base your comments on facts. Otherwise, you present yourself as someone who comes to a conclusion based only on ignorance and emotional biases. Is that really a description of you?

Old Lori, I think you are being too tough on Sara as POTUS material. While some federal government time would be an asset, Palin isn't without leadership qualities. Notice I said leadership and not management. Any ex-military person will tell you there is a difference between leaders and managers.
Have a read of her book and I think you will come away with a better insight of this much maligned person. Dare I agree with another commenter that a lot of women feel threatened by women in leadership roles.

btw, trolls don't rate acknowledgment let alone a detailed response.

p.s. Saints by 6. Just sayin'

oh- and I've seen her interview on FOX for the tea party speech. Palin was waving her hands around and it was clear. NO WRITING.

The ideal American president would know a lot about the world, and not be very impressed.

But we are not eligible to run, so we'll have to hope Palin brushes up on part one, since we can assume that she qualifies on part two.

Ignorance of the world may seem like a virtue to some Americans, and in some ways it is I suppose, except it helps to know what the bu**ers are up to and where they hide afterwards.

Nicole:

Limbaugh's comment in full:

"Our political correct society is acting like some giant insult's taken place by calling a bunch of people who are retards, retards," Rush said, adding that Rahm's meeting yesterday with advocates for the mentally handicapped was a "retard summit at the White House."

Satirical? Limbaugh saying that Emanuel is right in calling Democrats "retards" because he believes Democrats are "retards" is satirical? There's nothing remotely satirical about it: Limbaugh is using the word in a derogatory fashion exactly as Emanuel did.

Nicole, you merely call it 'satirical' because Palin herself did on the Wallace show today.

Before that, though, she had a different viewpoint as expressed through her spokesperon Meghan Stapleton:

"Governor Palin believes crude and demeaning name calling at the expense of others is disrespectful."

She walked it back today realizing she did not DARE criticize Limbaugh - even when he mocks the very condition her son suffers from!

Thank God 71% of Americans know Palin is unfit for office, so that such a characterless, cowardly, lying betrayer of her own flesh and blood will never come close to wielding power.

"71% of Americans know Palin is unfit for office"

Big deal. 95% of Americans KNOW that Obama is unfit for office but they are stuck with him for another 3 years.

ET,I think you watched the wrong interview. I was referring to the other softball interview at the teabag convention Q&A session itself, not the puff piece with Chris Wallace.
In the context of Palin criticizing Obama for reading from a teleprompter (and what pol doesn't) and then attempting to surreptitiously look to her ink stained palm reeks of hypocrisy and dishonesty. If you think it's fine that she referred to notes then she should have openly had notes to refer to. But she wanted to falsely create the impression that she had a command of the issues that she clearly didn't have, never did have, and never will have. Left to her own devices all she's got is this gobbledygook word salad, full of verbosity signifying nothing.

The remoteness of her "cabins" requires owners to honestly declare the new construction on their property to the pertinent agency. By your logic, one who steals is not a thief until they get caught. She's a cheat.
And really, you can't deny she quit her position as governor to cash in on the ghost written book/Fox News gig gravy train.
Liar, quitter, tax cheat.

"Sarah Pallin scared the hell outa the "progressives" instantly......because they instinctively recognized her merits....a species of left-handed endorsement. (perhaps a pun)
Sorta funny...despite Phil's, oh so obvious, trolling----for all practical terms he is more principled than "old lori".

I agree with you, Sasquatch.

The fact that Sarah Palin is a beautiful woman with five children and a rugged, handsome husband; an unfeminized man who works in an oilfild, fishes, knows how to shoot a gun and also how diaper a baby makes less fortunate women feel envy, not admiration. Sad really.

I was at the pipeline meetings, here in the Yukon, when Peter Jenkins and John Ostashic invited the Alaska Delegation to the Yukon Legislature to discus the agreement. The Yukon government was mostly out of the loop because Foothills owned the pipeline corridor but it was an act for good will from both sides. Sitting in that Legislature, I had no idea who was who in the Alaska delegation but Governor Palin OWNED the room. She did not speak, her eyes and her demeanor spoke; she was curious and she was beautiful: inside and outside. Any person with a shred of intelligence knew instantly that she was no fool.

If women and men would look a little closer they would note that her beauty shines from her soul, she looks beautiful because she has nothing to hide and she does not hate: she does however, get even if an injustice has been done. Governor Palin is blessed with a fantastic memory (I have been told that she has a photographic memory); when she hears or reads about something or someone she remembers with photographic clarity.
She is what I call a lovely woman because she is a person that I would love to have for a friend.

Kkkkaty couric or Michelle 0; not so much...

I would vote for Sarah Palin, if she ran for President, in a heartbeat because she is trustworthy, she is intelligent, and she is not insecure. She likes the person that she is; Sarah reminds me of Winston Churchill and Prime Minister, Stephen Harper.

I love watching the angry left's heads explode whenever Sarah Palin's name is mentioned.

Even the possibility of her running for president gets them into gutter discussions.

Name-calling and personal attacks have never been a substitute for intelligent debate but hey, if name-calling and a machine-gun list of accusations makes anybody believe they're intelligent, bring it on.

Hey Joe

You say 91% of Americans disapprove of Obama?

Any facts to back that up?

According to polls I've read, 56% approve of Obama.

That'd be over double the number who approved of Bush at the end of his term, dude (22%). :)

phil be the liar, hate-monger, and blowhard - anti-conservative female hater, with no brain, and dread in his bile filled soul - he cheats at everything, including his writing

marquis, Maobama is 0 for 3 in the last elections he's backed. How's THAT for the support of the people? And 73% of americans are AGAINST his socialist healthcare plans... what was that you were saying about support?

Democrat senators are in a panic not to advance socialized healthcare further, as they're petrified of a bloodbath this november, and rightly so. Your messiah will soon be a lame duck without his kleptocrat support in congress, eh? Oh, wait - he couldn't pass socialzed medicine and cap/trade WITH supermajorities in both houses; guess he's really a lame duck now, eh?

philltroll - considering the top guy at the IRS is an obama-appointed tax cheat, you and your pals should be experts on tax fraud, eh? However, ET is quite right in her comments to you above, if you had enough grey matter to comprehend. And with the left-leaning hordes appointed in the obama administration, if there were a shred of positive evidence sarah palin had defrauded the government, she'd be giving speeches behind a set of bars.

But that approach is typical to the leftrash, isn't it, phil? You hate what you fear, and you denigrate, demonize and marginalize those you hate. Same tired old playbook, time and time again. You must have really got off reading Alinsky, eh?

Idiot.

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm

Remember-you can't spell "awesome" without S-A-R-A-H P-A-L-I-N.

Marquis isn't too sharp. He as oblivious to the nonsense I spew as he is oblivious to the nonsense he spews.

In other words Marky ole boy you can get any statistic you want if you ask the right question and or do the right tweaking.

Cheers to what mhb wrote.
An interested Buckeye reader of Kate's wonderful site.

Palin as POTUS, no thank you, old Lori is pretty astute in her take on Sarah, great galvanizer, poor leader. She showed one great error, in not being able to leave her religion at home, period. This was also one of Bushes flaws, and it showed up at various times in his tenure, and not in a positive way!!

as some have pointed out, Sarah is doing an excellent job at galvanizing moderates, and some large C conservatives, and I hope that's were her ambitions stop. As to any missing qualities, Sarah needs a great deal of age acquired wisdom, that will come only with age:-)))

One more thing- Mrs. Palin has proven herself fiscally minded and resource savvy. Right now, that's what America needs.
As for foreign relations, Mrs. Palin could learn every language but still be despised because she is American and represents American interests. Remember the love affair Mr. O was supposed to have with Canada? Nonexistent.
The judgment of Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, though largely deserved, as brilliant men is done in retrospect.
Phil is a troll, ergo, don't feed him.
Just my thoughts.

no phil - you refuse to acknowledge facts.

IF those three words were on Palin's hand - and there's no proof that they were - these were devoid of information. The word 'energy' has no informational content in itself! You, strangely, don't seem to understand this cognitive fact. I think your inability to understand this tells us a lot about your own inability to THINK.

Try it. Does the word 'energy' have any informational content? Does it include any suggestions for obtaining it? Does it refer to kinetic or thermodynamic? What information does it contain that, someone looking at that word, would go 'ahah..now I remember the CONTENT of that word'. Hmmm? Try it. Think. For once.

And are you seriously suggesting that Palin, who touts the concept of 'tax cuts' every single day, who makes it a key principle of conservativism, needs some kind of 'cheat sheet' to remember this phrase? Are you actually saying this???

As for the taxes - no, you are quite wrong. The borough sets the taxes. It's up to the borough to evaluate the taxes. Period. There is nothing, legal or ethical, that declares that the onus is on the owner. Nothing. Except your own personal opinion. Frankly, your own personal opinion is so irrational and so bigoted that it's worth..well, you can answer that for yourself.

And no, it's not comparable to stealing. You are using a 'false analogy' (critical thinking and logic 101). Stealing is taking property owned by another. Paying your assessed taxes is correct. It's up to the borough to assess taxes.

Your use of 'teabag' tells us about your own ethics and integrity, for by this use, you show your scorn and hatred for the average hardworking American who dares to question and criticize statism and socialism. That's hardly something to be proud of Phil, and yet, you display yourself in this way to everyone.

Of course I reject your false conclusion that Palin quit to cash in on her book. What an illogical proposition (IF-Then proposition). You have no proof that the two (quitting as G; writing a book) are causally related. Again, that's basic logic - propositional causality vs false correlations.

What 'gobblygook word salad'? You don't mean 'the oceans will cease to rise and the planet to heal'. Or the Cairo speech falsely attributing all kinds of inventions to the Islamic world? or all the broken promises? The rhetoric about jobs saved? Heh.

Or do you mean the articulation of the basic principles - which she repeats constantly: tax cuts, homegrown energy sources, focus on defense, limited govt, and adherence to the constitution. Do you reject these principles? I guess you do.

You favour empty vapid rhetoric, filled with vain self-reference (she wanted to be buried in an Obama shirt - yikes - the narcissism of that is unreal)...and misinformation (lies) and emotional manipulation...Ah well, you've chosen the fictional world of hubris and empty rhetoric rather than the real world of humility (we are fallible says Palin) and responsibility and hard work. You've made your choice. Sad.

marquis, I suggest you go to Rasmussen polls. They are one of the top for reliability. Obama's rating today is minus 17. The 'strongly disapprove' is at 43%; the strongly approve is only 26%.

For those who think Palin would be a greater asset outside the government as spokesperson, spiritual,
moral guide. I have a question just what would the President do cause those things that you have assigned to Palin outside of the government are an integral part of what the President does.

The woman is a leader and a decision maker not a policy wonk that is what uber expensive under-secrataries and bureaucrats do.

The point here folks is this women would guide and lead the country that's what Presidents do.

Someone also said somewhere along the way she would have to tow the Republican line. I gotta ask does anyone for one minute believe that's what she would do. The Republicans need her more than she needs them. You can bet your ass the party platform would be Sarah Palin's and Sarah Palin's alone.

Folks she is made of the stuff great President's are made of, all that remains does she choose to go there.

I for one vote for Madam President.

Well done, Jeff Cosford.

There's one clinching argument for Sarah Palin as POTUS.

All the other candidates are so much worse.

Great cartoon on how well calling participants in the Boston Tea Party ‘teabaggers' worked for the British Empire.

http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=4730

No ET, you refuse to acknowledge facts that don't fit your preconceived narrative.
The word energy has no informational content, yet Palin needed that written on her hand to clumsily answer a vetted question.
Photographic memory, indeed.

Teabag interviewer: When we are successful, and have a conservative house, and a conservative senate,
what do you think are the top 3 things that have got to be done?
Sarah Palin: Rein in spending, obviously.....we've got to start reining in spending.
At this point she looks at her ink stained palm, then launches into her vacuous, gobbledygook, word salad "answer".
We've got to, uh, jumpstart these energy projects, that, uh, again, we've heard so much about, because it's ridiculous that we have, JUST SITTING WAREHOUSED,
under god's green earth, here in the United States of America, rich resources oil and gas and, and our coal and all those conventional sources of resources.
We have got to, uh, actually walk that walk too, allow them to, um, come to development, and then I think...
where she goes on to the third topic written on her palm- lifting American spirits. Pathetic.

On the whole I'm not fussy about Palin, who doesn't seem to have the necessary gravitas for high office.

But the conservative / libertarian movement needs a full detailed platform - one that explains how and why left-wing political policies destroy the public's hopes for prosperity and a good life - much more than it needs any specific spokesperson or prospective candidate.

Regarding Sarah Palin NOT being qualified to be POTUS. She was a Governor of one of the largest states in the Union. Obama was not. Obama has never done a decent days work in his life and is qualified for nothing except pontificating. A Constitutional Law Professor with a Harvard degree he understands little about the very Constitution he professes to have been a professor OF. And yet HE is the one in the White House.
By comparison Sarah Palin is qualified to run the entire world, never mind the USA. (Some would argue they are one in the same).
Besides, she actually knows what she is talking about. Obama has to consult TOTUS before he knows what to think let alone what to say. In any event, Michelle looks to me like she has veto power over the one with the veto pen. Now THAT is scary. Even more scary than liberals say Stephen Harper is ( or was until they got another schtick).
Conrad Black makes more sense from prison than any so-called journalist in Canada make all day long!( where they sent him after the SEC raided his company and pinned their criminality on him and rigged the court system to ensure he wore it instead of them. I wonder how Richard, the erstwhile head of the SEC when they took Hollinger down, is enjoying that yacht he bought on the spoils from Hollinger)

"At this point she looks at her "ink stained palm", then la..."

Oh no! Not an inked stained palm? Is that a crime? call the ink stained palm police!
So then she couldn't even read it as an ink stain is not an inked 'word' on the palm. Bravo to her, she did even better than you expected!

Poor dears are so LSM slavish to the core over this woman, it is comical. At least they still have the TOTUS as a star, even if the guy behind is a falling one.
Apologies to our host and other readers but I do enjoying the angstfest the left puts on whenever Palin is mentioned, just hilarious and predictable.

Passing over the popcorn to you ET...
:)

I think ET has hit all of the points admirably above.
The phil troll, who baselessly slandered Sarah Palin above about taxes, hasn't a leg to stand on.
Anyone who cares can read ET's points and counterpoints.

People who want to believe the lies that those on this thread tell about Sarah Palin don't care to accept the truth.
You can't plant a seed in concrete.

I'm thankful for the hope in the future that Sarah Palin represents and articulates so well.

OMG....I thought I would never say this(well yes I knew I would)but ET nails it.
So tell me,phil/marquis.How does Palin maybe having something written on her hand compare to the Zero using a teleprompter in a classroom? In a classroom? Was he afraid the nine year olds might ask him something hard? Like how does printing fake money and giving it to your cronies stimulate jobs? Or how does he equate a failed bomb on an airplane with 200 innocent passengers as a "crime spree"? So I guess to you and him, 9/11 was a robbery at the local 7/11,only difference being the slurpee blew up?
As said before,the San Diego zoo has african lions,the White House has a lying african.Are you lefturds maybe afraid of the fact that us VRWC nuts are starting to use the same tactics against you,only using facts and logic instead of lies,that scares you? And to be totally un-PC,calling a lefturd "retarded"is an insult to the truly "retarded".At least they know right from wrong,or the ones I have met do!

"The tumult and the shouting dies,
The Captains and the Kings depart,
Still stands Thine ancient sacrifice -
A humble and a contrite heart.

Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget, lest we forget!"

Rudyard Kipling

John F. Kennedy, Ronald Regan, Stephen Harper, Winston Churchill, Sarah Palin,- all are political leaders who do not forget.

Rudyard Kipling spoke eons of Truth in these few lines, IMO. Some leaders forget that they will die someday; the latter type are very dangerous to people who want to live, really live, before they die.

I would love to see Sarah palin be a vice president to micheal savage that would be awsome but then again it aint gonna happen ....I still stand by my feeling and that is that she would make the best vice president the u.s. has ever had .Sarah again frustrates the left and unerves them becasue she is a god fearing america loving pro life ,pro military,pro family ,pro church,pro constitution, and i try to critisize her but she really comes across as someone who loves her country and want's to make it better and is doing so by using truth.

Paul in calgary.

Good grief. Obama needs a teleprompter to speak at a gradeschool, and when off prompter, nearly makes jean chretien sound eloquent by comparison.

Marquis and philltroll, can you even SEE earth from the aternate universe in which you live?

mhb