I remember the story that came out of that report. the glacier fed rivers all over south asia were going to dry up and mass starvation would result.

now we find out it was all bullshyt and willful exaggeration. my gawd, are we anywhere near the end of the lies?

"the truth will out"

The big question is are there any politicians who believe what is being reported and are they willing to take appropriate action. Quebec and Ontario stated their position with the IPCC at Copenhagen. Bad news is coming for the IPCC on a daily basis, Hansen, NASA, GISS (think why use 7000 thermometers when 1000 will do even if they're 1200 km apart) are being shown to be as guilty as CRU. We are hearing the sound of settled science and with every additional sound there is is another nail in the IPPC AGW fake crisis.

When will the politicians wake up and realize they have been funding the biggest scam in scientific history.

Fire them for the fraudulent activities in turning a blind eye and continue to provide huge, unfeasible investments based on false policy advice that germs like McGuinty are still using to spend more of Alberta's money. Leaders must muster the courage to take a hard second look at the science and clean out the robotized bureaucrats that won't give up. This is a national and global disgrace but what else do you expect from the UN?

I think we all need to slow down and listen to what Danny Glover has to say about all this. Now there is a really smart actor who just knows what will happen and where the next earthquake will hit if we don't sign on to Copenhagen Cop15. Please people listen to.. oh why do I try.

I saw the chief Canadian charlatan, David Suzuki, on the tube today and he is, if not totally backtracking on the global warming scam, he was certainly moderating his tone. He was bemoaning the loss of animal habitat, the pollution of our waterways, and the dirty air in our cities. These are all problems worthy of correction since there are solutions that don't involve shipping tons of cash to some third world dictator. I didn't hear a word about the chimera of global warming.
However, I am certain that Suzuki and his panic mongering brethren are studiously working on some scheme to turn this issue into another money making enterprise for this liar.

Hansen and Suzuki have both advocated that politicians who don't agree with should be put in jail. Maybe before this is over the shoe will be on the other foot and people like Mann, Schmidt and Jones will join them. I wonder which side of the fence Briffa is now on.

So many people had invested time , belief if not treasure for this pigs ear. I think most are to stunned yet by the reality of it being a scam. Themselves cheap marks for science elitists. Mean while the real scientists are foaming at the mouth knowing they where used, abused then made goats. They haven't yet realized what the climate jig by the media has made them appear now. Greedy fools for psycho's who worship death & an earth goddess.Plus the world s free loading Murders who run Countries like slave pens. When all these groups do. Hide the pitchforks.
JMO

It appears that those cracking sounds we heard this past week were not coming from the world's glaciers, as we were previously told by the IPCC, but instead from the IPCC itself.

What's truly freaky about all this is that those who asked relatively innocent questions about the "science" behind it were at first ignored, then vilified. And by, "vilified", I mean threatened in many cases.

What's even worse, however, is how the worldwide media never even bothered to ask any intelligent questions about all the exaggerated claims from the doomers.

THAT'S *truly* scary. The "seekers of truth for the public" being in bed with the politicos, scare-mongerers and agenda-driven activists.

Obama was just speechifying on the need for the US to 'step up to the plate' and implement a cap and tax program to fight climate change. But he can't possibly still believe the hype, only morons and politicians promote yesterday's agenda.

Philanthropist,
Let's not kid ourselves, the environment was never the agenda, it has always been about more government control and more taxation. Even throughout this entire scandal, all the greenie-weenies keep on spouting enviro-apocalypse talking points. They've spent too much time, money, and other resources to hop off their gravy train this close to their holy grail, the cap and tax. Last I checked the MSM is still mostly ignoring the revelations of corruption and rigging.

Philanthropist
[.....Obama was just speechifying on the need for the US to 'step up to the plate' and implement a cap and tax program to fight climate change. But he can't possibly still believe the hype, only morons and politicians promote yesterday's agenda.]

Would somebody explain how something of such signal importance did not come to the CIA's attention. This is the crowd who years back could evaluate the performance of experimental Soviet aircraft from orbit and read a newspaper in Red Square.

The notion that the intelligence/spy agencies of the US, UK, USSR/Russia, China, India didn't know the whole exercise was a scam is absolutely preposterous. These agencies evaluate other nations crops for strategic reasons.

Yeah OBOZO knows and has always known the "science" was bogus......Harper did....

It is,and will be,extremely difficult for the AGW believers to admit that they are wrong. Not only because they ,as anyone,hates to admit that they were played,the leftards threw this garbage into our face and did their best to vilify skeptics as the worst of the worst.We were portrayed as low IQ sheeple,(I hate that word),too f'en dumb to see what was in front of our nose,more concerned with ourselves than the greater good,just a bunch of selfish yahoos. It takes character to admit that you are wrong,a characteristic that is lacking in most that are playing left field.

Sasquatch,

I always noticed that when Bush talked about climate change and that he believed in it (because his advisors told him it could be real), he always talked about it in terms of energy independence.

I've noticed the same thing with Obama. Whenever he talks about climate change, he always mentions energy independence.

I think the CIA angle is therefore the energy independence angle. It is strategically important for the US to not have to depend on foreign oil so I think that climate change is a convenient way to move towards energy independence. That's why Bush was pushing off shore drilling, nuclear power, the new clean coal technologies, etc. (and not being very successful because of all these greenies).

Obama knows this for sure but a lot of his support comes from the extreme left wing and he has to play the political game of wait and see, as public opinion changes, which is very smart. It was interesting to see that in Copenhagen, Obama wasn't really going to do anything unless China really did something - the rest is politics.

"Obama wasn't really going to do anything unless China really did something"

BRIC are not stupid enough to sign onto a doomer agenda that doesn't benefit them in some way.

BRIC would be idiots to think that the western countries would just up and comply.

It must be nice (but soul-destroying) to be a well-paid politician/diplomat.

Never trust a guy with a mega comb-over and an ill-fitting $1,000 suit... ;)'

cconn wallyj Sasquatch, SaskHab Philanthropist

Follow the Money!
This is just a taste of how a tree planting scam in the lower fraser valley makes a german utility feel good. (and offloads their carbon penalty) These markets are all over the world with all the inherent middlemen facilitating the transactions.
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Well aint this all bad news for the greenies and lefty's. To give them some hope, you should know that my Premier is currently strong arming royal princes in the middle east, to purchase Alberta technology for sucking Co2 out of... well anything. Suzuki still has one firm beleiver out there. Actually they have a couple of hangers on as chorus radio QR77 Calgary still plays some Eco guy preaching to everyone on a daily basis. Have a listen, it's radio but you can imagine the guy riding up on his tricycle ringing the snot out of it's bell to get your attention.

OK, when will we see this story on North American TV? Today? Monday? Before February?

This is huge. Someone admitted they lied (or misled) solely to "impact policy makers and encourage them to take concrete action". And as a result hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent (or offered).

To avoid complicity with this scam, MSM outlets must report this news within 24 hours.

Seriously.

The science is settled. The Broken Hockey Stick, Briffa's tree rings, Climategate and the Himalayan Glaciers exaggeration are just anomalies and not representative of the entire AGW science. Then again, it could be argued that the anomalies seem quite consistent across the globe. North America, Siberian, England and India have all recorded similar trends.

MSM: Al Gore's Weather (AGW).
"Long Island Lolita to strip for Haiti tips"
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"TV Newsers Ignore UN Apology for Himalayan Glacier Error

Last Sunday, NewsBusters reported that the United Nations might be about to retract a claim its Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change made back in 2007 concerning Himalayan glaciers being completely gone by 2035 as a result of global warming.

On Wednesday, the IPCC issued a statement concerning the matter:

It has, however, recently come to our attention that a paragraph in the 938-page Working Group II contribution to the underlying assessment refers to poorly substantiated estimates of rate of recession and date for the disappearance of Himalayan glaciers. In drafting the paragraph in question, the clear and well-established standards of evidence, required by the IPCC procedures, were not applied properly.

Despite the seriousness of this apology and its implications for the veracity of the entire manmade global warming myth, the announcement was completely ignored by America's major television news outlets EXCEPT Fox News (partial transcript of January 20's "Special Report" below the fold):"

"But the television newsers aren't the only ones complicit in hiding this information from the public.

The New York Times on Thursday gave this story four sentences on page A8 of its New York edition.

That's better than the Washington Post and USA Today, for according to LexisNexis, they didn't report it at all.

Amazing."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/01/23/tv-newsers-ignore-un-apology-himalayan-glacier-error

And with all this snake oil science being exposed, the MSM, as usual just keeps looking to shill for yet another hoax. There's a good write up in the National Post yesterday about CTV W-5's uncritical, fawing regurgitation of Dr. Paolo Zamboni's wholly untested MS cure. The MSM, far from being a source of information, has simply revealed itself to be a megaphone for the carney huckster du jour.

"This is huge. Someone admitted they lied (or misled) solely to "impact policy makers and encourage them to take concrete action""

Some people are already pre-conditioned to believe that all government and all politicians lie (and that all corporations are evil), so it's a short hop to convince them of the other weird stuff.

Don't you wonder what the political affiliation is for UFO believers and people that watch those paranormal "phenomenon" programs that seem to be popping up these days? How much you want to bet that they all think the big bad conservatives have been covering up "the truth" for the past 50 years?

Dayem! Think of all the hectares of arable upland pasture land those glaciers are covering. I was kind of looking forward to seeing grazing ungilates in the alps again.

resulted from a lapse in standards

I'd say that it resulted from an application of the same standards that the IPCC has been applying as long as it's been around.

Should we not see Raj Pachauri's head on a stick?

The Bus asks "Where is my Wheel?"

Then Adds "Is that Pauchari in the Road?"

Many people, myself included, have been saying that politics and political views fueled the IPCC and since they DO NOT DO SCIENCE of any form and are a political organization of like minded liberal socialists pushing a global agenda they have made "cherry picking" the mantra of the their report and selected supporting opinion over factual research, but the green wing-nuts would not listen.

"The truth has a nasty habit of thwarting every attempt to conceal it"

The Times on-line has another story up that exposes a bit more of the chicanery.---http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7000063.ece

The end result of Mao Stlong's AGW Fraud.

AGW is a cover/proxy for Mao's shakedown/extortion racket.

Ontario Liberal Premier McGuinty pay$$$$*$$$ ....
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"China to rich nations: Hand out climate money now
AP ^ | January 24, 2010 | ASHOK SHARMA

NEW DELHI -- Brazil, China, India and South Africa called Sunday for developed countries to quickly begin handing over the $10 billion pledged in Copenhagen to poor countries to help them deal with the effects of climate change.

The first funds should go to the least developed countries, including small island states and African countries, said Xie Zhenhua, China's top climate change negotiator after a meeting of the representatives of the four nations in New Delhi.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2436084/posts
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Red-Green Liberal McGuinty:

"*McGuinty Liberals fear green-deal backlash

MPPs worry they'll face voter wrath over higher power costs from Samsung accord

There is mounting anger within the Liberal caucus over Premier Dalton McGuinty's decision to award a $7 billion green-energy deal to a South Korean consortium, sources told the Star.

MPPs, who were advised on a conference call that the controversial accord with Samsung C&T and Korea Electric Power Corp. (KEPCO) would be proceeding, complain they had no input on an arrangement."
http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/754785--mcguinty-liberals-fear-green-deal-backlash?bn=1

Yea...a hockey stick.

Syncro

Broken of course.

Syncro

The good ship "Warmie" has a rotten hull with leaks spurting everywhere. Yet at the Desmogblog web site, run by Suzuki's PR flacks, the band plays on. If you want to see true climate deniers in action, mosy on over there.

Their "journalists", such as Littlemore and Liberal party hack Grandia, are still doing their best to smear reputations and hyper-inflate every bit of global warming nonsense they can dredge up but there is more than whiff of desperation about them these days. Looks good on them.

"Nick Clegg pledges to curb libel law's 'chilling effect' on scientific inquiry

Mark Henderson, Science Editor

English libel law is a “legal farce” that needs urgent reform to stop it from gagging scientists and endangering public health, Nick Clegg said today.

The Liberal Democrat leader promised a manifesto commitment to create a strong public interest defence to defamation claims, so that doctors and scientists are not kept from publishing research or speaking freely for fear of being sued.

His pledge follows a series of high-profile libel actions against scientists and science writers, and the withdrawl of important papers by research journals because of legal concerns.

Peter Wilmshurst, a cardiologist, is being sued by an American company over his criticism of a heart implant trial, and Simon Singh, the author, is being sued by the British Chiropractic Association for questioning the evidence for its medical claims.

The Times reported last month that the British Medical Journal (BMJ) has refused to accept a significant paper on child abuse after lawyers advised it could potentially be interpreted as defamatory.

In a speech to the Royal Society, Britain’s national academy of science, Mr Clegg said such cases were having a “chilling effect” on scientific inquiry.

“I am deeply concerned about the stifling effect English libel laws are having on scientific debate,” he said. “The freedom to evaluate critically the work of others is the essence of quality research.

“Scientists must be allowed to question claims fearlessly, especially those that relate to medical care, environmental damage and public safety, if we are to protect ourselves against dubious research practices, phoney treatments and vested corporate interests.

“English libel law as it stands today is obstructing that process and threatens the public good as a result. The prospect of a costly, protracted legal battle hangs over journalists, editors and academics seeking to ask basic questions about the evidence for practices they believe may put people at serious risk.”

“Our libel law and practice have turned a country once famed for its traditions of freedom of speech into a legal farce where people and corporations with money can impose silence on others at will.”"

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6992920.ece

The MSM is still in denial here in the heart of oil country. This morning's Calgary Herald editorial was still a case of "nothing to see here, move along" although it did suggest that those who are somewhat skeptical should at least be heard...

CRC

CRC The Calgary Herald is a joke, the Sun is a joke, CTV news is a joke, Global News...Joke, CBC news...double joke with a good measure of puke, even QR77 News Talk Radio news is a joke. If it wasn't for Rutherford and Adler we would never hear about other side of these issues. The MSM keep operating with their head up their ass thinking we need them to be informed. Anyone with any sense has seen through their left slanted bullshit long ago and as far as I am concerned they are all as irrelevant as those two morons holding the signs in Winnipeg.

listen up everyone if you keep talking like this truth is going to go mainsteam and peaple will realize they are slaves to offshore private banks when that happens there is no telling what the result might be things will never be the same again be forewarned

Al Gore's Weather (AGW): Just settlin' in.
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"18,000 Poles without electricity

WARSAW, Poland - Poland's Interior Ministry says that more than 18,000 people across the eastern European country are without electricity during the coldest weekend so far this winter."
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2010/01/24/12591946-ap.html

"Blizzard Covers Moose Jaw
Discover Moose Jaw"

Deadicated to Red-Green Lizard May & Voodoo Choo-Choo and Liberal Kyoto Citoyen Dionky.

Permission to c/p from UNabomber, Mao Stlong.
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"Geoffrey Lean
Geoffrey Lean is Britain's longest-serving environmental correspondent, having pioneered reporting on the subject almost 40 years ago."

"Pachauri must resign at once as head of official climate science panel

It is time for the embattled Rajendra Pachauri to resign as Chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPPC), He is steadfastly refusing to go, but his position is becoming more and more untenable by the day, and the official climate science body will continue to leach credibility while he remains in charge.

When on Friday I wrote for my Daily Telegraph column (published yesterday) that he was “at best one more blunder away from having to resign”, I did not expect other errors to come to light quite so fast. But, as I blogged yesterday, four more have now been reported from the part of the latest IPCC report on Himalayan glaciers that contained the notorious – and now withdrawn - claim that they would disappear by 2035. And there are now reports that it erred in relying on an unpublished report in linking natural disasters like flood and hurricanes to global warming. All appear much less serious than the original Himalayan howler, but they add to the impression of sloppiness at the IPCC.

Pachauri’s reaction to the original revelation was widely reported to be that he claimed to have “absolutely no responsibility” for the mistake. But – leaving aside the obvious fact that, as Chairman, he is ultimately responsible for the content and standards of the report – he is himself rapidly emerging as much more of an issue than even a few errors in the 3000 word document. Much of his trouble, rightly, stems from his outrageous reaction to an Indian paper late last year which suggested that the glaciers were not vanishing quickly – dismissing it as “voodoo science” and adding, hubristically: “We have a very clear idea of what is happening in the Himalayas.”"

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geoffreylean/100023489/pachauri-must-quit-as-head-of-official-science-panel/
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"Well, at least they didn’t use a lizard
24 01 2010

Now that Dr. Rajenda Pachauri has blown all his (and the IPCC’s) credibility with denouncing complaints about the flawed glaciers melt date as “voodoo science”, the pundits, both serious and silly, are getting to work. On the serious side we have Geoffry Lean, the father of environmental reporting (40 years) in the UK calling for Pachauri’s resignation.

On the silly side, Pachauri may be selling insurance soon."
http://wattsupwiththat.com/

There is no confirmation to the report that IPCC India spokesguy is being slapped upside the head with... hockey sticks, as we speak.

Of course that may be due to the dearth of hockey sticks in India.

Dear IPPC: Having hockey sticks that point up means getting a penalty for high sticking.

Maybe, we could e-mail them instructions for how to make hockey sticks and how to play hockey. They could play on the Himalayan glaciers. Then we'd actually know if and when the glaciers disappeared.

The Pakistani army could play hockey against the Indian army in the Kashmir instead of shooting at each other. Do I get a Nobel Peace Prize?

"This is huge. Someone admitted they lied (or misled) solely to "impact policy makers and encourage them to take concrete action""

It's called "Pandering to the stupid” The AGW group has had to fake data, hide the decline, create fiction, all for the mental midgets that expect science to provide absolute solutions...

May a camel flea invade their armpits, one flea for each lie...

The headline for this post is inspired. I say that because it's likely prophetic.

Those who want to salvage their careers from the soon-to-be-smoldering-wreckage of the IPCC will be jumping ship and confessing to the misdeeds of their peers.

In the US, the government will actually pay a 'bounty' to those who expose fraud involving government funds. Put that on your radar, too.

Meanwhile, with the glaciers melting: a bit of common sense.

The melting glaciers feed rivers. If the glaciers don't melt, the rivers go dry. You don't want melting glaciers? Well, stand up and say you want those rivers shut down. Geesh.

Notice commentary by Corcoran on NP website: Ont. commits $Billions to Samsung and S.Korea over next 25 years for wind and solar development.

While the AGW hoax may have ended Copenhagen legislation passing the US Senate any time soon, McGuinty is still very much with the program. This lame duck Premiere has 2 years remaining to finish bankrupting the province. To a fanatic like him, cost-benefit analysis is unnecessary:
windmills and mirrors = good, fossil fuels nuclear=bad.

"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."

Or dare we dream a mainstream media discovering itself to have been played?

Is thery a chance they run with this like a dog with a bone?

"Of course that may be due to the dearth of hockey sticks in India."
~Larry

Field hockey is extremely popular in India which dominated the sport in the 20th century.
There is no dearth of hockey sticks in India.
They're just shaped different and wielded by girls in skirts.

Choo-Choo interviewed: AGW designed/built by a committee of "over 4,000 people".

Does that make Choo-Choo a camel jockey or a mahout?

Choo-Choo says:
"The skeptics want to continue with their lifestyle and ruin the environment. My conscience does not allow it. As Al Gore says, it is an inconvenient truth."

"Over 4,000 people are involved in an IPCC report. For the fourth assessment report, there were 450 authors, 800 contributing authors and 2,500 expert reviewers."
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"'It's a mistake, but glacier melting is real'

Q&A: R K Pachauri, chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
Kalpana Jain / New Delhi January 24, 2010, 0:44 IST

The chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, R K Pachauri, tells Kalpana Jain that the glacier melting report was a mistake but that does not detract from the fact that glaciers are melting

How big do you consider the goof-up on dates (of glaciers melting) and will it change the ongoing climate change talks?
We realised it was a mistake and stated that very clearly in a statement. I don’t want to minimise the mistake itself. But in no way does it detract from reality — that there is widespread mass loss of glaciers.

We have said this clearly in our synthesis report, which is the last of the four documents we bring out as part of an assessment report. This error was not there in the synthesis report. But we had a very clear statement on climate change.

What is the synthesis report and how widely is it circulated?
The synthesis report is the last of the documents. It is the most widely-read report, meant for policy-makers. We have three working group reports — each of them about 3,000 pages. The synthesis report takes the essence of all these three reports and presents them in a manner that is readable for policy makers.

It is interesting that the synthesis report does not pick up this point, which seems to have emerged as an important point in the fourth assessment report.

I’ll tell you why. That is because mention of disappearance by 2035 is something that IPCC, as a style, never promotes. All our future projections are exactly what they are supposed to be — projections. We provide a range. We provide a scenario. We never say something will happen by so and so date.

The environment minister, Jairam Ramesh, has called the contents of the IPCC report “voodoo science”
I would much rather not comment on it. He has been a friend of mine for over 30 years. He is a friend today. I hope he remains a friend.

The lead author of the Asia section of the report, Prof Murari Lal, said IPCC changed rules for the fourth assessment report to include non-peer-reviewed literature. Is that so?
That’s not true. It wasn’t the first time. It is there in the established procedures of IPCC that we can use non-peer-reviewed literature, what we call grey literature. It is there on our website. Where we use grey literature, we are required to closely check sources and verify the authenticity of our information. That’s where the failure took place. That should never have happened.

What is the process of choosing authors?
Over 4,000 people are involved in an IPCC report. For the fourth assessment report, there were 450 authors, 800 contributing authors and 2,500 expert reviewers." (more)

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/%5Cit%5Csmistakeglacier-melting-is-real%5C/383467/

The AGW Casino lights are dimming, dimming ......

Via commenter at WUWT:

"It's not clear at what point this will turn into a cull or a rout."
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"Copenhagen dampens banks' green commitment

Banks are pulling out of the carbon-offsetting market after Copenhagen failed to reach agreement on emissions targets

Banks and investors are pulling out of the carbon market after the failure to make progress at Copenhagen on reaching new emissions targets after 2012.

Carbon financiers have already begun leaving banks in London because of the lack of activity and the drop-off in investment demand. The Guardian has been told that backers have this month pulled out of a large planned clean-energy project in the developing world because of the expected fall in emissions credits after 2012.

Anthony Hobley, partner and global head of climate change and carbon finance at law firm Norton Rose, said: "People will gradually start to leave carbon desks, we are beginning to see that already. We are seeing a freeze in banks' recruitment plans for the carbon market. It's not clear at what point this will turn into a cull or a rout."

Paul Kelly, chief executive of Eco­Securities, which develops clean energy projects, said that while markets had not expected a definitive post-Kyoto Protocol deal at Copenhagen, they had expected some progress.

"The lack of regulatory certainty in the post 2012 world affects the market's view of what CERs [carbon credits from clean energy projects] will be worth and subsequently will constrain financing for projects. If you had an agreement at Copenhagen with a bit more detail, people would be more willing to take risk."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/24/carbon-emissions-green-copenhagen-banks

Al Gore's Weather (AGW Final final commycommmunication: O'earthquake in the Heavenly Kingdum.

Mo's nephew, Canadian "Liberal leader" Bob Lae, says his Uncle Mo is carm, coor, and corrected.

"“That letter, and the defeat of the Democrats in the Massachusetts bypoll, has forced the UN to postpone the deadline indefinitely,” an official said. “With the Democrats losing in one of their strongholds, the chances of the climate bill going through the US senate have receded dramatically."
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"India, China refuse to sign Copenhagen, say Dem defeat in Mass. has weakened AGW push

The Hindu ^ | January 24, 2010 | nwrep

The Indian and Chinese governments have had a rethink on signing the Copenhagen Accord, officials said on Saturday, and the UN has also indefinitely postponed its Jan 31 deadline for countries to accede to the document.

An Indian official said that though the government had been thinking of signing the accord because it “did not have any legal teeth and would be good diplomatically”; it felt irked because of repeated messages from both UN officials and developed countries to accede to it.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has written to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon seeking a number of clarifications on the implications of the accord that India -- with five other countries -- had negotiated in the last moments of the Copenhagen climate summit in December, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

“That letter, and the defeat of the Democrats in the Massachusetts bypoll, has forced the UN to postpone the deadline indefinitely,” an official said. “With the Democrats losing in one of their strongholds, the chances of the climate bill going through the US senate have receded dramatically.

“So if the US is not going to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions by 17 percent, which was a very weak target anyway, why should we make any commitment even if it does not have any legal teeth?” the official said.

China also appears in no mood to sign the accord.

“With the deadline postponed, we are not going to sign now,” said a Chinese official now here to take part in the BASIC (Brazil, South Africa, India, China) meeting to chalk out a climate strategy.

The meeting of the four environment ministers Sunday is likely to end with the announcement of a fund they will set up to help other developing countries cope with the effects of climate change, said an official of the environment ministry.

Only four countries -- Australia, Canada, Papua New Guinea and the Maldives -- have signed the Copenhagen Accord so far, though Brazil, South Africa and South Korea have also indicated their willingness to do so.

Though Australia and Canada have signed, they have not indicated the greenhouse gas emission reductions they are committing under the accord -- something developed countries are supposed to do."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2436391/posts

So we are spending billions, and perhaps eventually trillions, because of one man's desire to make millions.

Wouldn't it have been a lot cheaper just to pay Pachauri off right up front? Let's get a collection together for him and have done with this.

Hate to spread some gloom but polar ice and glaciers are melting at a rate faster than predicted.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2009/11/23/glaciers-shrinking-times-faster-s/

I'm not gloomy at all, Bob from Virginia,
AGW is a crock.
re: Glaciers Shrinking Three Times Faster Than in 70s-as per your link.

I was a teenager in the '70s.
I never experienced a summer a cold as 2009 in my entire life.
The '70s were balmy in comparison.
Global warming is just not happening.

These Climate Crisis mongers are liars.

Sucks to be T.

"the worldwide media never even bothered to ask any intelligent questions about all the exaggerated claims from the doomers"

Did they ask questions about the impending ice age in the 70s?

Sick, sick, sick!

Now to fight carbon taxes and cap-and-trade:

http://www.taxpayer.com/issues/federal/fed-oppose-new-carbon-taxes-and-cap-and-trade-tax