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January 18, 2010

The Sound Of Settled Science

Bloomberg: Glacier Melt Rate to Be Re-Examined By Hopelessly Corrupt UN Panel.

h/t Manotick

Background here and here (new).

Posted by Kate at January 18, 2010 2:17 PM
Comments

Darn, no comments allowed at either site. Funny how much Pachauri looks like (and arguably acts like) Rasputin.

Power hungry despots usually meet a similar demise in every case.

Posted by: Doug at January 18, 2010 2:46 PM

"unequivocal” and rising human greenhouse- gas emissions were “very likely” the main cause."

It's "settled" then, "very likely" is what "is" is. I think.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at January 18, 2010 2:49 PM

Pachauri looks like those Russian bums who wait by the beer store patios to pick up empty bottles. Guess, his $1000 suits don't work all that well.

But why the outrage? RCMP can investigate itself, is UN any different?

Posted by: Aaron at January 18, 2010 2:51 PM

Drip, drip, drip. That's not the glaciers melting that's what's left of the UN's credibility running down the drain.

Posted by: Joe at January 18, 2010 3:03 PM

Interesting....
Pachauri announces a review of the matter of glacier melt and in about the same breath announces it's conclusion.
Meanwhile it has been admitted that the "award winning" panel of "thousands of climate scientists" (more BS) based their report on a press release by the WWF, which based their article on a brief telephone call with a nobody..........
FIRE-THEM-ALL-NOW!
NO-MORE-UN-FUNDING!
The UN is funded by the developed world.
The UN seeks to destroy the developed world.
The UN is staffed by 2nd and 3rd world beaurocrats who know nothing but corruption.
IOW---we supply money and they supply corrupt beaurocrats.
It's like Haiti---Canada and the US directly aid and the UN begs for money....again....

Posted by: sasquatch at January 18, 2010 3:21 PM

The UN has 150+ member states which have been clamoring for some time to have the Security Council dominated by the permanent members---UK, US, China, Russia, France----dissolved and it's functions replaced by majority votes of the General Assembly.
The General Assembly of 150+ states is dominated by the Islamic Block----
Less than 40 of those 150+ states are democratic by any definition (eg Pakistan)the rest are governed by despots and dictators.

Posted by: sasquatch at January 18, 2010 3:39 PM

OMG! Please don't find that the science hasn't changed; and: "Glaciers are (NOT) melting across the globe. The entire Saskatchewan and Peace/Athabasca River systems depend on it!

Now, no melting... No water for the Oil Sands, No un-edible fish to catch or eat...

Posted by: NorthernLight at January 18, 2010 4:26 PM

Having the UN "re-examine" this matter would be like having Kenneth Lay "re-examine" Enron.

Posted by: John Luft at January 18, 2010 4:35 PM

I can't wait until Chretien gets the top job at the UN . He'll show these incompetent pikers how a real kleptocracy works .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 18, 2010 5:07 PM

Thanks Bill, now I am truly depressed at the thought of the one world guvment fun by the crook from shiwinigate.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at January 18, 2010 5:14 PM

I notice in one of the links that the IPCC is called
"award-winning". Perhaps one of those awards
will at some time be an award by a trial judge of
5 years in the pen.

Posted by: John Lewis at January 18, 2010 5:21 PM

By the way, as you have probably guessed, none of these "award-winning scientists"
has the faintest clue about how science is conducted.
Can you say FRAUD? FRAUD? Say it again, FRAUD.

Posted by: John Lewis at January 18, 2010 5:27 PM

The UN, what could have been a superbly useful organization has become a joke and an embarrassment. They are completely out of touch. Where are they in Haiti, they should be the coordinating agency but is sounds like everything is totally unorganized. Where are they in combatting the slaughter that goes on in African nations and the trafficing of arms to despots and tyrants. They would rather act to take guns away from law abiding citizens as that is easier and it appears to the clueless that they are doing something. They want to force ammunition makers to mark every single cartridge with a unique identifier, this is a smoke screen to try to put them out of business. Now as expected they are at the forefront of the global warming scam. What a completely useless organization.

Posted by: wafer at January 18, 2010 5:27 PM

I said my opinion in this site this corruption must stop sooner is better

www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013147.html#comments


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we have so many award fraud in canada too

This kind of corruption remind of all award Minster of agriculture give to alsafa halal Jewish owned company in 2002, 2005, 2007 doing mix halal and nonhalal to send to export to made impossible look possible by get rid of all competitor out


www.google.ca/search?hl=en&rlz=1R2ADSA_enCA361&ei=e-JUS6zpLI-OlAedvdTiCA&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAgQBSgA&q=alsafa+halal+food+award+winning&spell=1

by get all competitor out of scene and nobody participate in that award who are Muslim customers only Minster of agriculture give them money and award and force indirectly through brokers to destroy all competitors not come up

who brought Jewish owned Alsafa halal in power was Glen Halfyard and all chicken farmer processing in Ontario by take some out and mix it export halal with non halal outside Canada lable it halal by show it right while it was not right all was fraud and corrupted company by help of Chudhurri that later suppoted by Brian Wallace to superstore supermarket as he is only one shake hand with them.

www.soundvision.com/Info/halalhealthy/assafameat.asp

Posted by: new at January 18, 2010 6:00 PM

Hey new, long time no see.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at January 18, 2010 6:16 PM

award winning


you'd think these winners could have gotten it right right from the start

Posted by: GYM at January 18, 2010 6:32 PM

The best thing Gore Suzuki & other warmists making billions on this. Could for Earth with love for Gaea the goddess. Is to sacrifice themselves as messengers to there deity. I propose we use the old throw them in the volcano ploy. It has a good track record.
If not the weight of tradition behind it.
JMO

Posted by: Revnant Dream at January 18, 2010 7:20 PM

I've discovered Danny Glover's home world, it's the CBC.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/01/18/guatemala-el-salvador-quake.html#socialcomments

"When will people realize that we have abused this planet too much and now natural disasters are happening. Hopefully those neocon climate change deniers (ie. harper) will take these latest round of earthquakes to heart and see the facts.
Those that feel that earthquakes are not linked to climate change should pull their heads out of the sand, this planet is a living organism, when it is sick in one area it also shows symptoms in others."

Posted by: Stan at January 18, 2010 7:51 PM

"planet is a living organism"

Stan, note that the poster of this seemed to use pretty good English.

Further evidence that the message and the presentation of the message is more important than the message itself.

Posted by: PiperPaul at January 18, 2010 8:38 PM

AGW (Al Gores Weather) is a trojan horse for Cap and Trade. The Liberals and NDP have Cap and Trade as part of their platform on their websites.
See Lorrie Goldsteins article on Cap and Trade from the Winnipeg Sun. Do not let them legislate Cap and Trade.

http://www.winnipegsun.com/comment/columnists/lorrie_goldstein/2010/01/13/12455671-qmi.html

Posted by: Triple Bay at January 18, 2010 8:42 PM

Al Gore's Weather (AGW "Warm Regards"): "Dear Friends", We are pleased to inform youall: It's O's fault.

>>> "There is simply not a critical mass of receptivity at this time for the kind of "Climate Summit" we have designed, which has emphasized an integral approach to climate change and the need for an “urgency coalition” to come together to take immediate and decisive action to resolve the climate crisis."

Here*, in an amazing few words is the confession:
The AGW liars lied.

>>> "*There is simply not a critical mass of receptivity".

"It should also be noted that civil society in Copenhagen was essentially as disorganized and incoherent as our governments."
...-

"STATE OF THE WORLD FORUM

2020 CLIMATE LEADERSHIP CAMPAIGN

"Dear Friends,

I want to inform you that we have decided to postpone indefinitely the Washington conference Feb. 28 - Mar. 3. I apologize for any inconvenience this might cause you. There is simply not a critical mass of receptivity at this time for the kind of "Climate Summit" we have designed, which has emphasized an integral approach to climate change and the need for an “urgency coalition” to come together to take immediate and decisive action to resolve the climate crisis

As disappointed as we are that the conference will not take place, the considered opinion of all our conference partners has been that this is simply not the right time to convene a major conference of this kind in the nation’s capitol. It would have virtually no impact on either the thinking or the agenda with which the U.S. Congress and the president are now engaged, such is the paralysis to which Washington has succumbed with regard to any action on global warming. In due course, this situation will no doubt change, probably induced by a sufficiently strong climate related catastrophe, but this is the stark reality we face at the moment. As a result, raising funds and registering sufficient numbers have been extremely challenging.

State of the World Forum will in time convene a Climate Summit in Washington but that time is not now. We need to put our energy elsewhere."

"*Warm Regards,
Jim Garrison
President
State of the World Forum"
http://www.worldforum.org/2009WashingtonDC.htm
...-

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/18/climategate-the-crutape-letters-now-online-at-amazon-com/#comments
(H/T Dave Wendt at WUWT)

Posted by: maz2 at January 18, 2010 8:46 PM

I used to work at Bloomberg and knew Jeremy the reporter indirectly. What a hopeless story.

How hard is it to write a graph stating that the IPCC relied on a WWF report that in turn relied on an 8 year old story in the New Scientist that in turn relied on an interview with an obscure Indian scientist who later said his comment about 2035 was speculative.

And, what, no time to mention the IPCC somehow deduced that there was a 90% probability that the 'speculative' comment was true and that IPCC head Pauchauri had previously called criticism of this report 'voodoo science?'

Hopeless reporting or maybe just deliberately misleading. Who knows?

Posted by: chip at January 18, 2010 9:23 PM

"The entire Saskatchewan and Peace/Athabasca River systems depend on it!

Now, no melting... No water for the Oil Sands, No un-edible fish to catch or eat..."

Posted by: NorthernLight at January 18, 2010 4:26 PM

You've never seen the Athabasca glacier, have you? It could dissappear, completely, and those rivers would keep flowing. Most of their water comes from the annual snow pack, and normal precipitation.

Good job finding another way to connect every evil to the oilsands, though. Never mind the fact that oil has been seeping into the river, naturally, for thousands of years.

Posted by: dp at January 18, 2010 9:30 PM

Two or three UK mainstream newspapers are now regularly covering the global warming scam, as a scam. This is front page news in the UK.

Posted by: Robert of Ottawa at January 18, 2010 9:53 PM

Chip, and further, the Indian scientist didn't even study glaciers.

Posted by: Robert of Ottawa at January 18, 2010 9:57 PM

Maybe not glaciers, but I suspect a good number of them studied ... well other things

http://tinyurl.com/yzmdkv3

Prove positive of rising sea levels seen at the very, very, important Bali conference ... poor buggers ... enough suffering for us already

http://tinyurl.com/ydwrl2e

Posted by: ∞² at January 18, 2010 11:01 PM

Tonight 9:00 PM CST, Eureka Station, Nunavut. Temp is -44° C! Do icebergs melt at that temp???

Posted by: Joe Citizen at January 18, 2010 11:18 PM

Joe That would have to considered "file 13 material" as it does not fit the model.

Posted by: earnest at January 18, 2010 11:42 PM

Robert says UK papers are reporting the scam as a scam. There should be more such reporting and copies sent to their ambassador to Canada. Anthony Cary has had to hire a PR specialist to sell the dishonest climate position now that the high commission's media officers have lost all credibility.

Posted by: ReJoyce at January 19, 2010 6:52 AM

'Funny how much Pachauri looks like (and arguably acts like) Rasputin.' ... on a bad suit, bad hair day ...

Posted by: egg at January 19, 2010 10:47 PM
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