great tune Vit, brings back memories - that one gets clicked to my 'favourites'

I'm glad you liked it, Agent Smith.

Great tune. I looked at the live version that showed on the side. I always had a mental image of the "two time, two times" guy as a big black guy. Instead in the live video he looks like Santa Claus.

Earlier this week Michael Coren interviewed Lorrie Goldstein, Lawrence Solomon, and two other AGW skeptics. SDA regular, Matt, kindly recorded & published the show. I've posted all of the segments here.

In the 2nd segment Goldstein points out something very interesting: He mentioned how strange it is that the sort of people who have attended anti-globalization rallies/riots are often exactly the same ones attending global warming events such as the recent one in Copenhagen.

You need to listen to the show to follow his line of thinking but he points out that if you follow through where the Warmists would like to take the world, these same people at one rally are essentially protesting themselves at another!

Fascinating times!

Why is it "strange that the sort of people who have attended anti-globalization rallies/riots are often exactly the same ones attending global warming events such as the recent one in Copenhagen"? Remember, there are two definitions of anti-globalization in scope here.

Dateline Florida
Because of global warming:

Dozens Of Green Turtles Discovered "Cold Stunned"

The climate-alarmists' computer model has a bug.

Livestock Being frozen To death In Their Thousands

Well, Ron, these things happen.

Vit, I do encourage you to watch Coren's show, or at least segment #2.

But in a nutshell, here's Lorrie Goldstein's argument: If the AGW crowd were to get what they want then first world citizens will get heavily taxed and this money distributed to third world nations. Ultimately their goal is to destroy capitalism and traditional national borders. If that were to happen, that would be the worst sort of unaccountable globalization ever.

That's Goldstein's argument. Well worth a watch!

I agree, Robert. Yet it remains the case that they can be and are against globalization when it comes to the open market, while they are in favour of globalization when it comes to government. Therefore it is not "strange that the sort of people who have attended anti-globalization rallies/riots are often exactly the same ones attending global warming events such as the recent one in Copenhagen", as long as one selects the appropriate definition of anti-globalization.

Stephen Harper doesn't know what to do.

http://tinyurl.com/y9splkz

Come on guys, let's give him some suggestions!

http://www.fin.gc.ca/prebudget-prebudgetaire/1-eng.asp

What? You want government to serve you, correct? And then
when the government asks what you would like to order, you say
"Stephen Harper doesn't know what to do"? Now, don't be silly.

Great song... One of the things that struck me about the Copenhagen crowd, was that there was many closed door meetings,yet the rabble were not up in arms about the hidden agendas. Some 'anti-globalization' is obviously more important than others. 'Two legs good,four legs bad' until 'we who are concerned about society's most vulnerable' decide otherwise.

Here are three for SH:

income splitting for all.

Capital gains tax cut for next to years to 25% inclusion rate.

Estate tax of 5% on all assets over 500,000

Good link RW.

All four of Coren's guests had the pertinent information at their fingertips !!

Hey,who pulled my posting?

It's been all over the News for DAYS!

This is a little ironic,considering the anti-globalization,anti-socialization posts,to me anyways.Or maybe just odd. Anyways ,I met Kelly Jay (crowbar singer) at a tele-conferencing meeting that linked speakers to the CRTC in Ottawa. The issue was the monopolization of long distance telephone service. This was way back,maybe 1991 or 92 at the Palliser Hotel in Calgary.We were both against the existing monopoly held by AGT. Wow,memories.

There is no way, Mr. G, that you can infer from the
links you posted that the alleged pepetrators were Muslim.
Therefore, your comment was misrepresentation and incitement.

The buck stops where?

By Jackie Mason

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=121211

This one brings back memories, although this is one of those songs where if you can remember it you weren't really there (like the 60's)

Not my fav at the time, but I had friends? who lived on this song and of course sang along to the chorus.

Anyway. My reader tip for the night. RT - Russian Television. Russia's English Language network to the world. Channel 179 on Shaw in Calgary.

Many interesting points.

1. Unfettered and unapologetic capitalism, energy development, financial and market reports.

2. Intelligent interviews and discussions with senior Russian officials that last more than 30 seconds.

3. A very outward confident viewpoint.

There are a few things that grate, but if nothing else its a very different view. I am actually quite impressed and if the Russians actually do what they say they are going to do economically and financially then we are going to have to move fast to keep up. What is bizarre to me growing up with the specter of the USSR is that the Americans now seem more leftist/socialist than the Russians as represented on RT.

I am not naive about the media and still remain skeptical. Has anyone else on SDA seen RT? Any comments?

That livestock freezing headline is a bit disingenuous. Given enough feed animals like sheep and cattle can take a lot colder temperatures than those they are experiencing in Scotland.

James @12:20 Is there a website for RT or a channel number for Shaw satellite tv?

RT has a "website"... rt.com.

Don't know what the channel is on satellite. If its any help its near the Polish TV, Japan TV and the all cricket channel on Shaw cable.

Another isolated incident brought to you courtesy of the 'religion of peace'.The first line says it all.---http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/01/07/church-firebombs-malaysia.html

"Air Canada ordered to offer nut-free zones" on flights:

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/01/07/air-canada-nuts.html

The headline is good for a laugh but the story itself is a sorry example of how utterly stupid we have become.

I agree, TJ, that headline is the mother of 10,000 jokes ;-)

Sorry, the above sentence should have read "...itself is another example..."

Argh...to have a delete function for one's posts.

Hmmmmm... nut free zones.
How about parliament for starters?

Oh yes I forgot, Dizzy Lizzy is not there ...yet.

Thanks Vit, most kind of you to put the item up top. I'm sure SDA readers will have a hell of a good time with the headline!

Have a good night.

But if it's a nut-free zone, then how
are we going to hold down the bolts?

Coyne plays Hamlet on AGW:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/01/07/the-truth-is-out-there-somewhere/

(via RCP)

Here's what I posted in the comments:

"The title should read:
Coyne plays Hamlet on AGW.
The ipcc has yet to include the effects on GW by cloud cover and solar activity (and the affects of the latter on the former). Its key source of data on historical temperature – a source very high up on Andrews pyramid analogy – has been shown to be fradulent (perhaps criminally so).
And the politics of the IPCCs parent and the vast vast majority of its scientists and its commercial backers (gore, Suzuki, strong et al) is far left and in favour of heavy government control of all aspects of society – making AGW fit their desired ends perfectly.
Hedging on the issue is to ignore facts that any lay person – particularly someone as astute as you, Andrew can discern.
Fence-sitting Andrew so as not to be a pariah in the coffee klatches you haunt that are chock a block with CBC and Torstar types does not become you.
You can do better. (I have been a follower and fan of yours for decades Andrew, you know I mean the criticism in the sincerest of ways.)
ps- congrats for getting linked to RCP."

There is no way, Mr. G, that you can infer from the
links you posted that the alleged pepetrators were Muslim.
Therefore, your comment was misrepresentation and incitement.

Posted by: Vitruvius at January 8, 2010 12:08 AM

-------------------------------
You're absolutely right Vitruvius,I forgot to put in the third link with the relevant information.

THIS link,which I forgot to add,does give their names which indicates they are all Iranian-a country that is 98% muslim.

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/67376--sex-assault-suspects-turn-themselves-in

Former New York mayor Ed Koch:

We're afraid to call them Muslim Islamist terrorists

Making Air Canada have "nut free zones" will do wonders for security, although I'm pretty sure most clients are going to resent sitting in the 'nut zone'...
Of course that begs the question; will 747's have nut bars?
"Captain, we've just heard from the peanut gallery."

....ok, going to bed now.

its a charter flight for the women's olympic ski team!!

here come the 70's , I seem to recall the global coolists of the time , including Carl Sagan and a good chance of Dr. Mengele Suzuki.

http://www.livescience.com/environment/100106-record-snowfall-cold.html

Fresh release music.
Nokie Edwards ..

youtube.com/watch?v=3QD7Pp-bnhM

And for the ladies purple sunset over the pyramids and camels of Egypt.

my.opera.com/zenya/blog/

Scroll down just a little and play Arabian horses.... Video.

Who makes that music?

Midomi.com failed to ID it by microphone input.

Peanut gallery? DaninVan shoots; he scores!

Gilles Duceppe away on vacation as well, you have to read down in the comments where he is at a resort in mexico.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/01/07/quebecers-arrested-mexico-organized.html#socialcomments

apparently this prorogue has given Iggy and Gilles a chance for an extended vacation away from the climate change. only Taliban Jack to report in now.

Nut Free zones employment.

Nut jobs for crowd scanning wanted.
apply at personnel.

Takes one to spot one.

welcome back Tony Guitar.

we hardly knew ye as TG

Question: Who Is writing for The Economist?
In 2005, The Economist declared that "Canada was so cool" and Paul (Mr. Dithers) Martin was on his way to a majority government. Furthermore, that article and others were not very complimentary to Harper (who was opposition leader at the time). Well, that article was written by many inividuals including a Federal Liberal Senator from B.C. - who served as an advisor and B.C. cabinet rep in the Martin's cabinet. Of course, in the article he did not identify himself as a Federal Liberal, as a Federal Liberal Senator or as a member of Martin's inner circle! In addition, The economist simplistically commenting on our environmental policies without a mention of our need to be in line with the USA. Really? Did Canada's favourite son Maurice Strong write this for them? Are European carbon prices falling too much? Google or YouTube 'maurice strong' + 'jesse ventura' and watch the videos. Finally, check out Google Trends for the USA on December 16 as Maurice Strong is the 11th most googled item in America.

Glad to be back. Good to see lotsa old regulars still making things interesting here.

This place is addictive. So much fun.

Anybody who vacations in Mexico these days is playing Russian Roulette.

Guess some Canadians missed Mexico's new sport.

It's called bowling in restaurants with human
heads.
REAL human heads.. I'll pass.

"Anybody who vacations in Mexico these days is playing Russian Roulette"?

No.

"Official Wang Zheng told AFP news agency the car park was meant to cater to women's "strong sense of colour and different sense of distance"."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8432887.stm

Google Trends provides insights into broad search patterns. On December 16th, Canada's own "Maurice Strong" was listed as the 11th most searched item for the United States. In fact, Google Trends (for the United States region) lists the search of "Maurice Strong" as 'Volcanic' on this day. Check out the Google Trends graph for Maurice Strong (United States) in the past 30 days. Anyone wonder why the spike?
What hour long show was on TruTv (formerly CourtTV) that night?

Here’s a sample:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih1UPeEK9Ig

Terrorists don't have to hijack planes anymore. They
can just throw peanuts at us and we'll surrender. We suck.

[Speak for yourself, dahling. ~ Vitruvius]

For those wondering yesterday, the video interview with Thomas Sowell on Intellectuals and Society (Chapter 5 of 5) has been posted.

//tv.nationalreview.com/uncommonknowledge/

Nuts aloft? Nuts below? More nuts here:

"As a mining engineer, the thought of injecting rock with CO2 to keep it from destroying the earth is nuts."
...-

"Galen Haugh (19:16:53) :

As a mining engineer, the thought of injecting rock with CO2 to keep it from destroying the earth is nuts. I know there are plenty of people out there that think Greenland is going to capsize and dump it’s entire boatload of ice into the ocean, or that polar bears are going to invade Central Park and eat the natives because there’s no ice plates upon which to eat the last remaining seals up north, but I have a better idea:

Why don’t we just take the CO2 they’re planning on sequestering, press it together really hard, make diamonds with the carbon and release the leftover oxygen for us all to get high on? So what if we destroy the world’s diamond cartel? At least we wouldn’t have to worry about any rock formation leaking that nasty stuff back into the atmosphere for the plants to use. (I do hope they come up with a plant erradication program so the rest of the flora on earth doesn’t suffocate from lack of that dreadful gas since its been turned to diamonds.) Of course, we’d have to balance that out eventually with a progrom that reduces overall fauna, too, just to keep the gasses balanced. The most likely species to erradicate would be homo sapiens, because they’re the ones who have been digging up all that coal and burning all that oil and THEY started this big mess in the first place. It’t not nice to unbalance Mother Nature.

Maybe I’ll check myself into some place for the unbalanced, too. After that, I’ll plant some palm trees and watch them grow."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/07/carbon-dioxide-storage-in-east-coast-u-s-rocks/#comments

Sea Sheppard Society to abandon the Ady Gil and let her sink in the Antarctic waters?

Not very environmentally friendly there folks!

They best intend to off load all oil, fuel and other petroleum products!

more of the pseudocelebrity , Cindy BooHoo.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100108/brenda_martin_100108/20100108?hub=TopStoriesV2

maybe the mexicans will save here and take her back.

OK, Vi t, this is a joke, right? Next time we fly AC are they going to search us to make sure the kids have nut free snacks? If we do have banned granola bars, do we get re-seated into the nutty area, or do they confiscate and keep us in the none nutty area? I have this mental picture in my head of walking through the nut detector with flashing lights and sirens going off, with some lacky running a hand scanner over my body in search of nuts. Now that is nuts.
There is a kid in my older son's grade 5 class who is none nutty, and carries an epi pen on his belt at all times. This, and a little education, seems to be a far wiser solution, rather than say making him eat his lunch and snacks in the hall.

does Obama miss Kenya that much???

http://www.redstateupdate.com/video/red-state-update-on

AC employee - "Excuse me Sir, are those nuts in your package, or are you just happy to see me?"

if you want to go for the pat down, take a small bag of peanuts and stick one in each pocket on your person.

do burquas have pockets? maybe thats the solution, everyone change into burquas , no thongs allowed.

Nut free zone, like the fruit of the kaboom bomber.

a nut free zone?

how about getting the HoC designated as a nut free zone?

Censorship sucks!

*
pop quiz: which federal budget line item is apparently just making the
problem worse?

"If you knew the name "Shamattawa" before last weekend,
it is probably from 2002, when three people from the tiny
community committed suicide -- and another 39 attempted it
-- in the space of a week."

*

John R. Bolton, Obama's Next Three Years

Once President Obama becomes less encumbered with issues inherited from the Bush era, key elements of U.S. national sovereignty--autonomy, self-governance, and defense--are in trouble.

I saw a poll on ctv webpage two days ago where something like 80% Canadians admit of being a closet exhibitionists.

No taxes, no duties, no copyrights laws, no driving licenses, no traffic lights or utility bills. It may not be the paradise, yet the place is prosperous and booming.

Recovery Watch Alert!!

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/400222/Harsh-Realities%3A-85K-Jobs-Lost-in-December%2C-%22Real%22-Unemployment-Rate-at-17.3%25

Does this mean that Liberals and Dippers will have to find alternative means of transportation?

Nut-free flying: Does this mean Air Canada will no longer fly into Toronto?

Truckloads of swine flu-free zones.
...-

"Truckloads Of Unused Swine Flu Vaccines

After months of fear, media coverage and government warnings there wasn't as much demand for the swine flu vaccine in New York state as expected.

Truckloads of swine flu vaccines are being returned by counties that say the expected demand for the shots never happened."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2423896/posts

"Environment Minister Jim Prentice said it was unfortunate that a prominent scientist was forced to resign because of revelations in the e-mails, but the government still believes the science is clear that human activity is causing climate change." Jim Prentice

Canada signs Copenhagen pact

Cuba to opt out; Greenhouse gas cut only 3% from 1990

By KEVIN DOUGHERTY, The GazetteJanuary 8, 2010Be the first to post a comment

While Canada and Prime Minister Stephen Harper were criticized for taking a weak position on greenhouse-gas reductions at the recent Copenhagen meeting on climate change, Canada is among the first countries to sign the Copenhagen agreement.

The Bloomberg news agency reported that Australia, Canada, Papua New Guinea and the Maldives were the first to notify the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change of their wish to be associated with the Copenhagen accord."

http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Canada+signs+Copenhagen+pact/2418235/story.html

"I'm convinced that the country, this country, will be a positive contributor to a realistic fight against climate change." PM Stephen Harper

Welcome to the New CPC Carbon Tax Canada. Enjoy it while you are saving the planet.

good thing air frames use lots of rivets!

an inconvenient name.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6980247.ece

goo goo ga chooo.

I attended a Crowbar concert in 1972. I was told I did, at least.

Native bank takes Ottawa to court over loan program

Indian Affairs helping big financial hitters move in on their small markets, firm alleges

Ottawa — From Thursday's Globe and Mail Published on Thursday, Jan. 07, 2010 12:00AM EST Last updated on Thursday, Jan. 07, 2010 7:56AM EST

Indian Affairs is facing a Federal Court challenge and a complaint to the Auditor-General alleging the government is trying to run native banks out of business.

The native financial company behind the court action says Canada's 57 Aboriginal Financial Institutions - known as AFIs - were secretly and unfairly shut out of a new program to spur economic growth on reserves.

Instead, the government awarded the program to a group of five much larger banks that includes the Desjardins Group, the Assiniboine Credit Union and the First Nations Bank of Canada, which is affiliated with TD Bank.

The program gives these institutions a pool of federal tax dollars worth at least $13.5-million to tap into in case they lose money lending to on-reserve businesses....."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/native-bank-takes-ottawa-to-court-over-loan-program/article1421820/

Guess the AFI's weren't stroking the right members of the CPC...

Isn't that taking fear of panty-bombers a bit far?

No name 'do as you're told' backbencher nobody slips up, provides real reason for prorogation:

“The Olympics are a great celebration and it would be a real conflict for MPs to be there in a minority situation,” he said, adding that could lead to the opposition having more MPs present in Ottawa."

MP defends extended break

Vernon Morning Star
By Richard Rolke - Vernon Morning Star

Published: January 07, 2010 6:00 PM

Okanagan-Shuswap MP Colin Mayes doesn’t believe the suspension of Parliament is a big deal for constituents.

http://www.bclocalnews.com/okanagan_similkameen/vernonmorningstar/news/80956662.html

How can you possibly par-tay when the office is open???

Terrorists 1
America 0

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/07/AR2010010703245.html

IIRC Crowbar played as warm-up act for Pierre Trudeau speech on early-70s campaign trail at the request of Maggie Trudeau...

And the song "Oh What a Feeling" has also been used as "bumper" (intro/outro) music for Rush Limbaugh's radio show (due to "What a Russsshhhhhhh" refrain)...

...Which makes Crowbar surely the only rock band in the world to be only one degree of separation from both Pierre Trudeau and Rush Limbaugh.

Very droll, Alexander ;-)

Posted by: Gord Tulk at January 7, 2010 11:43 PM

While I agree with your first two points, GT, I'm not certain why you think the canadian government - and by inference, you and the rest of the country -
have any right to the private property of someone who's amassed it over a lifetime despite paying confiscatory income and other taxes. This is a simply a sneaky wealth tax levied on individuals who cannot so object simply because they are deceased, and another attack on private property that is not protected by our worthless "constitution".

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm