Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
Independent, March 20, 2000 - Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past
Telegraph, Jan2. 2010 - Britain is bracing itself for one of the coldest winters for a century with temperatures hitting minus 16 degrees Celsius, forecasters have warned.
Posted by Kate at January 2, 2010 1:11 PMBooker is hilarious; jump through to the link to "climate denial deemed mental disorder" for an even funnier piece.
Posted by: KevinB at January 2, 2010 1:41 PMI blame HRH Prince Charles!
Posted by: janet at January 2, 2010 1:43 PMonce in a blue moon , ha.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2010/01/02/ns-maritimes-storm.html
obama promised the seas cease to rise.
Posted by: cal2 at January 2, 2010 2:04 PMTHE ASSOCIATED PRESS LONDON - Heavy snowfall and freezing temperatures have led to the cancellation of several sports matches across Britain.Scotland's football league has been the hardest hit, with frozen pitches leading to the postponement of 16 of 18 matches on Saturday. Three games in England's FA Cup third round have also been cancelled.
Five matches in the Welsh Rugby Union Premiership are off, and the horse racing meeting at Sandown has been postponed.
When footy is canceled you know that even the least perceptive might figure that something is up.
From Breitbart..http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=cp_hhnvu1ohg38&show_article=1
Posted by: james at January 2, 2010 2:05 PMhttp://denisdutton.com/newsweek_coolingworld.pdf
Click the above link or copy it to your browser and you will see what I mean.I hope the link works.
I am almost . . almost starting to feel pity for the fools & morons that run the UK Met Office.
"The reason the Met Office so persistently gets its seasonal forecasts wrong is that it has been hi-jacked from the role for which we pay it nearly £200 million a year, to become one of the world's major propaganda engines for the belief in man-made global warming. Over the past three years, it has become a laughing stock for forecasts which are invariably wrong in the same direction"
200 Million . . . that's all of pounds of being wrong.
http://tinyurl.com/yhxazln
Posted by: Fred at January 2, 2010 2:31 PMSolar powered snow-blowers.
The next EU mandate.
Snowfalls are a thing of the past, eh? Could one then please explain the white, fluffy stuff falling outside?
Really, this alarmism nonsense might work on children and adults with no clue about anything but it doesn't work on everyone.
Short Memory Syndrome (SMS) is caused mostly by the MSM. (aka dumb-down-the-news)
Any chance our beloved media would have provided us with this flashback ? Hell freezes.
Short memory syndrome plagues most of us. Because of it, snake oil salesmen have survived for centuries. And the scams just keep on getting more expensive. (aka Al Gore)
SMS is the reason a good financial adviser can be worth their weight in gold. (This time is different, the rally will keep on forever. This time is different, the market will never come back.)
IMO, the biggest reason for SMS is the media. They do not want the masses to remember. Makes it hard for the Elites to control the Peasants.
Read any book of a couple of hundred years ago and it is plain to see the Elites (Kings, Queens, Professors, Clergy and media) conspired to treat the masses like mushrooms - keep them in the dark and feed them shi!.
An informed and semi-wealthy Middle Class spoils their fun. The Internet is a game changer. Watch for an all out assault.
Posted by: ron in kelowna ∴ at January 2, 2010 2:45 PMThose guys at Copenhagen didn't waste any time.
Posted by: DrD at January 2, 2010 3:11 PMAs an aside, 'cause I don't know where to ask this, is there a Fox News Canada? A Canadian Fox News?
I'm fed up with the lack of balance in our Canadian news networks.
Posted by: chutzpahticular at January 2, 2010 3:20 PMCertainly illustrates climate change and instability, however, I am confident that the climate change deniers will find a way to explain all of this as well.
Posted by: T at January 2, 2010 3:30 PMHa, That's nothing. The World Whack-job Fund is running its latest BS propaganda piece.
It features a loser no-name actor narrating the plight of a sow polar bear. It is actually a sow polar bear teaching its cub to hunt on the ice floes but the eco-fascists are using the scene to BS people into thinking bears are in distress.
I'm sure a few left-tards called into max-out their credit cards. The phrase, I believe, is about a fool and his/her money...
Posted by: Mike T at January 2, 2010 3:33 PMFinally, a less egotistical column by Jeffrey Simpson:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/bloopers-hasty-judgments-and-the-year-that-was/article1417072/
Posted by: chutzpahticular at January 2, 2010 3:44 PMDidn't you folks get the memo?
Warmer winters a decade ago are indicative of global warming/climate change.
Colder winters now is just weather.
Glad to clear that up!
/sarc off
That column by Jeffrey Simpson has ZERO about climategate, he has not changed his spots.
Posted by: tranio at January 2, 2010 4:11 PMJournalists have warned of climate change for 100 years, but can’t decide weather we face an ice age or warming
It was five years before the turn of the century and major media were warning of disastrous climate change. Page six of The New York Times was headlined with the serious concerns of “geologists.” Only the president at the time wasn’t Bill Clinton; it was Grover Cleveland. And the Times wasn’t warning about global warming – it was telling readers the looming dangers of a new ice age.
The year was 1895, and it was just one of four different time periods in the last 100 years when major print media predicted an impending climate crisis. Each prediction carried its own elements of doom, saying Canada could be “wiped out” or lower crop yields would mean “billions will die.”
We’re still here!
http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice.asp
...but it's a DRY cold ...
Posted by: Davers at January 2, 2010 4:15 PMTo our resident troll, it's called Working As Intended. Put another way: climate change, it's a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at January 2, 2010 4:16 PMI've really noticed a lot of poor predictions, this last year. The weather network has done a very poor job in my area, at least. I've never seen so many changes in the forecasts. I used to check the forecast in the evening, to plan my work schedule. Now, I check again, in the morning.
I'm wondering if it's strictly because of recent instability, or because meteorologists are making poor judgement calls, due to their biased view of future weather patterns. There's always a human element to forecasting. If you have certain expectations, I'm sure it has an effect on your ability to analyze data. Sound familiar?
Posted by: dp at January 2, 2010 4:20 PMPosted by: chutzpahticular at January 2, 2010 3:20 PM
Your cable or sat company carries Fox News. Think it costs me $4 a month for the package it comes in.
Its minus 16 today on the north shore of Lake Ontario. I know that's balmy to you prairie boys and girls, but around here that's absolutely frigid. I pray for global warming every night.
Posted by: minuteman at January 2, 2010 4:23 PMYour cable or sat company carries Fox News. Think it costs me $4 a month for the package it comes in.
Posted by: AtlanticJim at January 2, 2010 4:22 PM
Yes, I've been happily subscribing to Fox News for the last two years now (through Shaw). Normally you can subscribe to specialty channels a-la-carte for $1.99 per month. But, Fox News maintains an unusual provision that it must be bundled with a second channel. But, I think the 2-channel bundle is only $2.99 or $3.99 per month. I personally bundled up Fox News in their 7-channel bundle which I think is only $7.99 or so per month.
(I still find the 2-channel requirement puzzling, but when Fox News first came to Canada I confirmed this provision was directed by Fox News, not Shaw Cable, through direct correspondence with Fox News).
Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at January 2, 2010 4:30 PMI'm glad tranio pointed that out, I was close to subjecting myself to that column to see if he was eating his words. He's one of the examples of the sort of stupid smugness that I think of when I consider the Canadian media's death grip on this ridiculous theory.
On a less famous, more ratlike, level, I think of T and his muttering about "climate instability". Yep, global warming to climate change and now, simply, instability. Slowly backing toward the exits...
"once in a blue moon , ha."
I'll take your word for it cal2 otherwise I'd have to chip thru the ice coated snowy crust that is covering my windows. The great "0" must be good to make a nor'easter all the way from Hawaii.
T
"Certainly illustrates climate change and instability, however, I am confident that the climate change deniers will find a way to explain all of this as well."
climate change DENIERS????
we question cause and effect, we do not deny natural climate change, try keeping up with the program will ya!!!!
Ok, we were way off on the no more snowfalls in Britain, but we're bang on re: climate change & instability. Really, we are!!
Stuck on "stupid"...
Posted by: K at January 2, 2010 5:08 PManother theory first posited in 1991 that was rejected outright and labeled irresponsible by the co2 gang:
solar magnetism, cosmic rays, clouds and climate - 1st of 6 parts at youtube - subtitles in english when necessary. 58 minutes and interesting enough to watch it all.
http://www.youtube.com/v/dKoUwttE0BA
Posted by: johnnyonline at January 2, 2010 5:14 PMSolar powered snowblowers...heh!
Posted by: atric at January 2, 2010 5:32 PMGoing to be a run on storm windows and water pumps in Britain this winter. Nobody has storms over there, just single pane sash windows.
The pumps are for when all the 200 year old Victorian water mains break and flood every basement in London. Cooooold weather baby. Does amazing things.
Posted by: The Phantom at January 2, 2010 6:15 PMactually the blue moon was dec 31, its a waning moon now.
a blue moon and a partial lunar eclipse on the last day of the year.
blue moons only occur every 2.7 years.
John Stossel: Global Warming Debate - Well worth watching!
Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at January 2, 2010 6:36 PM"Certainly illustrates climate change and instability, however, I am confident that the climate change deniers will find a way to explain all of this as well."
Since the climate has aways changed, a climate change denier would be one who insists that the climate remain static, that would be a person like you T. So tell us T,how do you explain it?
Posted by: U at January 2, 2010 6:44 PMT:
Could you please enlighten us, o wise one?
Name a time in the history of the earth when the climate did NOT change.
Posted by: set you free at January 2, 2010 6:50 PMdp@ 4:20:
The main reason, I think, is because a) unless you live in the GTA, TWN doesn't pay much attention to the forecast (it's all about advertising dollars), and b) most TWN forecasters are young, inexperienced model-gazers--that is, "forecasters" who accept the forecast model output as given without thinking about the meteorological principles involved and rejecting obviously bad solutions.
(Insider information because I have a friend who's a met at TWN.)
Posted by: Johann at January 2, 2010 7:08 PMThis is going to be a hell of a thing because as I recall the Brits (who accept perennial sunless skies and drizzle as a fact of life - I lived there once; sometimes I dream of grey and wake up screaming) react to an inch of snow as if it were the ice storm in The Ice Storm (never saw it; assume it featured an ice storm). The highways aren't safe! Don't leave the house! - etc.
Invest in U.K. shovel stocks. Salt. Trauma councellors. Do it now!
Posted by: Black Mamba at January 2, 2010 7:35 PM"is there a Fox News Canada? A Canadian Fox News? "
Why need it, they didn't even cover the 4 Canadian soldiers and Calgary Herald reporter in Afghanistan.
Posted by: john brooks at January 2, 2010 7:39 PMEnvironment Canada has the Top 10 Weather Stories of 2009 up on its website at:
http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteo-weather/default.asp?lang=En&n=645A8F9C-1
They are saying...wait for it...It was a WARM year for Canada...the 13th in a row.
Now seeing that a good portion of the Ontario corn crop is still sitting out in the fields freeze drying because we didn't get enough HEAT this summer for it to mature I call BULLSH*T.
Black Mamba said "the Brits (who accept perennial sunless skies and drizzle as a fact of life...".
You've described summer in Ayreshire perfectly.
Posted by: gord at January 2, 2010 7:50 PMIm looking for the story but the MSM already reported the years weather at the beginning of December saying it was on track to be the warmest year ever, neglecting the possibility that December which had not been calculated in, might be cold. Which is was in both the north and southern hemispheres.
Posted by: cal2 at January 2, 2010 7:57 PMthey had it pegged before it started. talk about data manipulation.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE4BT49G20081230
Posted by: john brooks at January 2, 2010 7:39 PM
Because Canadian broadcasters cover every US serviceman or woman that is killed in action right?
Why should Fox cover it?
The arrogance of my fellow countrymen can be utterly breath taking at times.
Posted by: AtlanticJim at January 2, 2010 8:32 PMThe link I gave in my post earlier at 2.06 PM is no longer valid. It was to a copy of the famous Newsweek article in 1975 entitled “The Cooling World”. I will have to settle for cutting and pasting selected quotes.
“There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production– with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth”
“The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard pressed to keep up with it. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies.”
“The longer the planners delay the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. “
I see they were just as quick and adept at scare mongering as they are now.
Posted by: Bob Wood at January 2, 2010 8:37 PMIMO wanting to stop the climate from "changing" is likely a better candidate for a mental health disorder. Got that T?
"Scotland's football league has been the hardest hit, with frozen pitches leading to the postponement of 16 of 18 matches on Saturday. Three games in England's FA Cup third round have also been cancelled."
Another good old fashioned N.American word usurped by euro-pu$$ies. The fact that they must cancel a so called "football" game because of poor weather should be proof enough that they are playing Soccer, not Football. Football is played on the "Frozen tundra" in November and December, not on a "pitch"!
"I'm wondering if it's strictly because of recent instability, or because meteorologists are making poor judgement calls,"
dp
Or perhaps they're simply trying to clear the golf course for a good Tee-time as Larry David mused.
Posted by: Indiana Homez at January 2, 2010 8:41 PMThanks for the link Robert W.
My wife got a new polar bear in WOW and named it AlGore.
Posted by: Indiana Homez at January 2, 2010 8:49 PMThe Internet is a game changer. Watch for an all out assault.
Ron
I’ve been thinking about this for sometime. This is a can of worm that can only be opened if there is a political “consensus” because any move against the internet will awake the “pock-faced monsters” from their slumber in their mother basements. I believe that those PFM’s will be the saviours of free-speech going forward. Look for the political “consensus”, once something is “settled” politically the fight becomes much more difficult. That being said, comparing the genius and ingenuity of the PFM’s vs those that would muzzle us is like “ a candle in the sun; that isht don’t even out.”
“Yeah you shinnin but the only thing you’re leavin out. You’re a candle in the sun, that isht don’t even out.”-Jaz-Z
There is so much confusion regarding global warming in this thread. No wonder. The concepts are difficult for most to grasp.
Consider the following logic..
If GW keeps up at this pace we could all freeze to death.
Convoluted, but sound logic all the same.
Still confused?
Sorry about the comments on the new website. Its fixed now.
Posted by: TG at January 2, 2010 9:20 PMgord @7:50 - and winter, autumn, most of spring (shudder)...
Posted by: Black Mamba at January 2, 2010 9:44 PMI did not realize that Bill gates called Bull Shi! on another recent worldwide scam .
[ Among the most reviled of the Y2K deniers was Bill Gates, who not only declared that Microsoft’s PCs would take the date turnover in stride, but had the audacity to blame those who “love to tell tales of fear” for the worldwide anxiety. Mr. Gates’s denialism was ignored as governments and corporations set in place immensely expensive schemes to immunize systems against the Y2K bug.]
Amazingly, the NYT allowed that op-ed piece.
Posted by: ron in kelowna ∴ at January 2, 2010 9:54 PMI did not realize that Bill gates called Bull Shi! on another recent worldwide scam.
[ Among the most reviled of the Y2K deniers was Bill Gates, who not only declared that Microsoft’s PCs would take the date turnover in stride, but had the audacity to blame those who “love to tell tales of fear” for the worldwide anxiety. Mr. Gates’s denialism was ignored as governments and corporations set in place immensely expensive schemes to immunize systems against the Y2K bug.]
Amazingly, the NYT allowed that op-ed piece;
'It’s Always the End of the World as We Know It', NYT
Posted by: ron in kelowna ∴ at January 2, 2010 9:56 PMFox News did cover the loss of our four soldiers and reporter, on the ticker line. We need our version of Fox news, asap, if we want to save our country, time to put our money where our mouth is.
Posted by: mjh at January 2, 2010 10:57 PMThanks to those of you who gave me advice regarding Fox News in Canada. I've checked with my cable provider; the office clerk said the company regularly sends out lists of options, so she will make a note to include the possibility of getting Fox. I'm about fed up with CTV, and I never watch CBC.
Posted by: chutzpahticular at January 2, 2010 11:27 PMAtlanticJim
Maybe because Fox News has a WORLD section, you know, like a section for coverage outside of the US.
I can't believe the ignorance done by Atlantic types.
Posted by: john brooks at January 2, 2010 11:37 PMjohn brooks - ah jayzuz, buddy, us Atlantic types does ignorance. We sure does do it.
Posted by: Black Mamba at January 2, 2010 11:43 PMEnvironment Canada ...
They are saying...wait for it...It was a WARM year for Canada...the 13th in a row.
Hmmm. I dunno. I'm on Vancouver Island and the last month of 08' and the first three months of 09' were clearly the coldest in my fifteen years in the same house.
We had a big snowfall on December 19th/08 and never saw the front lawn again until the first week of April. The lake across the street was frozen and skateable for the whole time.
Summer however, was fabulous. Long hot summer and glorius beach weather. So, if we averaged it all out, it was pretty much equal to our more usual weather which we're now experiencing: green lawns, grey skys and 3C-10C in Dec. - Mar.
BTW, our local paper had a big huzzah for the steep drop in emissions from our Duke Point pulp mill, this last year. It didn't seem to be a concern that the mill's days of operation were commensurately reduced, as were the city taxes they paid.
Fools and idiots abound in our local press.
Posted by: No Guff at January 2, 2010 11:56 PMHey there Mark Philips whats his name at EC, can we see the unadulterated raw data ?
And if we did have 13 warm ones, whats the problem? Where is the catastrophe?
Posted by: ron in kelowna ∴ at January 3, 2010 12:22 AMB. Mamba:
Hey, if you can pick up The Ice Storm at the local video emporium, do so. It's an Ang Lee film, and it features his usual deft touch. In this case, he's dissecting mid-70's mores, and he wields the camera with a surgeon's skill. Highly recommended.
Posted by: KevinB at January 3, 2010 1:34 AMRobert W. (Vancouver) at January 2, 2010 6:36 PM
Thanx for the link....
T should review that u-tube clip...paying rapt attention to the Goreacle's graph specifically at 3.25....the red line....leans backwards....
WTF....I cannot believe everybody missed that....
The "science" my patootie....
Accuweather is carrying the following story about possible snow/deep freeze in the south this week at:
http://www.accuweather.com/regional-news-story.asp?region=southusnews
If "T" is heading south he better pack mittens and snowboots instead of sandals and a speedo.
Thanks for the heads up on Environment Canada. I just sent them an e-mail letting them know that Mr. Goebbels brand of propaganda -- "a lie screamed loud and long enough becoming the truth" -- no longer works with the majority of us.
Posted by: Mike T at January 3, 2010 9:32 AMCould we all stop feeding the trolls? I don't know if y'all have noticed or not, but one comment from Mom's basement nets like 20-30 freak-outs. That's pretty effective trolling.
SDA is getting to be a frickin' banquet for them. Not what Kate had in mind, I'm sure. Plus, its BORING. At least make trolls -work- for it eh?
Scroll past and set to ignore. Its -punishment- for the attention craving bridge dwellers. It hurts them like boiling oil. Being roundly ignored will drive any troll completely insane.
That could be entertaining, you know? I wanna see some creativity in a troll, not just the same old thing.
Remember friends, a hungry troll is a hard working troll.
Posted by: The Phantom at January 3, 2010 10:03 AMhere we go coming on strong.
http://www.accuweather.com/news-story.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&article=4
Posted by: cal2 at January 3, 2010 8:17 PMIt look's like "T" is picking up on the "instability" buzz-word already.
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/012941.html
Posted by: signaller222 at January 3, 2010 8:37 PM