The leg! ... they shot him in the leg! What a wasted opportunity.

Are you encouraging violence here? It really seems to me like you are implying the 'religion of peace' is violent, or something. That kind of behaviour only forces the poor peacefull jihadis to kill people, you know.

So by extension anyone who describes rape as a violent crime encourages rape just as anyone who describes murder as a violent crime encourages murder. It is indeed difficult for non Muslims to grasp the logic.

I concur with Abe's assessment. A truly wasted opportunity.

Primitive, violent and they breed!!!

Personally I am liking these Somalian terrorists. 0 for 2. Is their someway we can get all the Somalian pirates to become Somalian terrorists instead?

It's those wee little 9mm's that are the problem.

Now a 45acp could have done the job better, and would limit court costs

I'd read elsewhere that the greens may have to embrace these sort of axe attacks as moving away from gun powder / explosives and into a more sustainable / green death warrant.

on that note, I don't like the Taser as a weapon to subdue either, I agree with shooting them in the legs, both in Denmark and here in Canada.

I assume that if he was hit in the leg it was a bad shot. You always aim for "the center of the visible mass"

Political correctness: "the Somali".

"The Somali" is a murderous Muslim.

How to make Yrup a safe place? Ayup.

BTW, the panic room is an axe-free zone.

...-
"How to Make Europe A Safe Place For Cartoonists Once More"

[...]

"When the Somali, who had forced his way into the house by smashing a window, was trying to axe his way into the panic room, Kurt alarmed the police, who arrived a few minutes later and shot the intruder."

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4250

With an axe and a knife entering another's home, which would suggest that the Somali citizen evidently didn't find the Mo'toons humorous.

The question then presents itself, is it reasonable to engage in violence when one is 'offended'?

I get offended by some annoyance everyday but I don't usually find it necessary to kill somebody; regardless of whether one has the ability to do so.

But hey when you have an ideological axe to grind, I gather it is no holds barred according to their lexicon...

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"

And this is the appropriate response.....

http://tinyurl.com/yzcz6ob

I know firewood might be scarce in the snow, but mistaking a cartoonist for dry timber is a new one for me.

Alain

You can't rape or abuse a possession.

If you're open to different music’s, a Canadian-Somali rapper named K'naan has one if not the best Hip Hop albums of the year(my inspirational album of 09). Some (if not most) immigrants have a more reasonable perspective on life, freedom and life back home. I recommend going to Itunes and downloading either: #8 "Somalia" or even better #14 "People Like Me" from the album "Troubadour" by K'naan. It will likely be the best $2.00 you spend this year.

Remember, don’t forget to LISTEN before you judge.

Close the F-cking borders to these radical bastards. Just look at Britain. If they had done so a mere dozen years ago they would not have the daunting problem they now have.

Why must we walk that walk? Keep them out!

Homez,

It is a good disc...he holds interesting views.

This site and most that post here illustrate a hot bed of racism, xenophobia, homophobia and an utter intolerance of other religions, races and cultures. Not all Muslims are terrorists and the postings and comments serve only to propagate hatred. Little wonder why most politicians, at least those that want to continue to be elected distance themselves from such sites and the garbage posted; even the conservative ones.

The way laws are in the following countries, the results of having someone armed with an axe break into your home to try to kill you, if you killed him first, the results would be:

USA: Ticket tape parade with much partying

Canada: You would probably be charged with one or more of the following offences:
-excessive use of force
-Assault with a deadly weapon
-Manslaughter
-Wreckless endangerment
-Speeding (WTF-that would make as much sense as any of the above!!!)

"ticket" - make that read "ticker" (wtf bob - preview for fs)

Related (somewhat):

Obama has stated that the gawnch-bomber was an al queda member on an al queda mission

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8437496.stm

that being the case he should now be tried by a military tribunal as an enemy combatant - i.e. no miranda rights and the military and CIA have the right to interrogate him without a lawyer present.

I doubt BO will let this happen, but how sweet would it be to see the ALCU et al go apesh1t over it?

t - grown-ups are using this site right now. All you children - its well past your bed time. Ni-night now.

"Is it fair to say that I am stressing out?
I'm stationed in Iraq and they won't let me out

My homies said I was stupid for even joining
My councilor said my decision was disappointing

How she had good slates for good state colleges
And with my good grades, it wouldn't have been a problem

But they don't understand just the power of significance
More than brilliance and certainly more than dividence

And if you ask me now, would I repeat it?
Would I fight in a war I don't believe in?

Well, the answer is: it's not me where the cancer is
They've been doing this before Jesus of Nazareth...

from K'naan's "People like Me"

T, I wonder how tolerant you will be when one of these radical extremist jihads Muslim murderers (yes that is what they are - no euphemisms can make the truth go away) raise their dagger to cut off your head, if you are lucky that is. They tend to use be-headings as training opportunities for their 12 - 14 year old converts whom they teach to sing dedications to Allah while giving them hands on experience in cutting through the neck of a live person with a pocket knife. This is after they rape your wife and girlfriend multiple times in front of you - dispose of her through a nice clean beheading then use you as a teaching tool for the young Jihads in training. Plenty of videos on-line to show you how it works T - if you can bear to watch them til the end - very very gruesome. You live in a fantasy land, like there are no truly evil people and labels such as radical, extremists, terrorist or murder are just cruel and mean - who cares about the truth - right T. I bet you have an avatar in Second City.

"Not all Muslims are terrorists..." but ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIM!

Yeah, those Irish terrorists.

"This site and most that post here illustrate a hot bed of racism, xenophobia, homophobia and an utter intolerance of other religions, races and cultures. "

B.S. This site is pretty damn tolerant of anyone who isn't a violent retard, generally mind their own business and try to be civilized.

"Not all Muslims are terrorists and the postings and comments serve only to propagate hatred."

Duh! But funnily how MANY are, and how many conflicts around the world have one side that is actively Muslim and so on. Ignoring that is willfully stupid.

p.s. Most politicians are dumb as shit, and those who aren't are terrified of getting the equally stupid media going after them, or some single minded interest group raising (artificial) hell.

Regards

but lets not forgit the great news outlets like BBC

truth in reporting would wunderfull!!!!

I'm telling you...these Danish police have got to go back to the range and hone their shooting skills. Next time maybe they'll hit the vital organs.

"There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch."

They shot him in the leg because their heads are so tiny, haven't you noticed? Sorry Indiana Hormez, I guess it's a matter of taste, I don't do rap/hip hop; I have taste. And finally to T; so what's your point?

I hate you
you love me
terrorists
are my
fam-i-ly
The only way
I can get laid
is when
the butchers bill
gets paid
this fits
Me to a
"T"
I get my reward
in eternity
what if anything I have wondered do the "doe-eyed" virgins get? Probably not much if it was the "crotch rocket of doom" or the dreaded "Bollacks Bomb"
My apologies to a purple dinosaur named Barney
whoops am I a "dino-phobe" he didn't evolve so now he's dissolved and my pickup runs on dino-poo
Go back to the "wading" pool "T" yer way over your head here.

This site and most that post here illustrate a hot bed of racism, xenophobia, homophobia ... etc etc blah blah.

Posted by: T
____________________________

Hey T: check out cbc.ca and theglobeandmail.com for the comments. Many of the comments there are more radical than anything here.

I guess all of Canada has turned into a bunch of xenophobic homophobic... blah blah.

Either that, or you are part of the last 5% of people in the West to realize that Islam has nothing to offer our society except violence and misogyny.

As a cop buddy told me...you cap him in the back/front with two,then fire two warning shots into the wall. Prove which came first.Problem solved and tons of taxpayers money saved on trial.

Danish cops must've went to the Danny Glover School of Criminal Justice. "Shoot em in the leg."

I'm still trying to figure out the cartoon. It's considered blasphemy for muslims to depict the prophet (pig shit be upon him). So how did they know the guy in the cartoon was Muhammed (flushed koran shreds be upon him)? It could be any Arab or Persian. They're committing blasphemy by even acknowledging the likeness to BE Muhammed (dog urine be upon him).

There has never been a group of people more worthy of being conquered and subjugated than muslims. They've posed a danger to the world since the 7th century and haven't stopped causing trouble in every part of the world.

T, You seem to be a bit of a simpleton! I have not figured out whether you are a real person with real ideas of your own, or somebody who has absolutely not a single thought of their own. I swear you must read only politically correct drivel as if you are reading a script out of the HRC handbook. Are you an HRC plant, just stirring up the conversation, waiting to pounce on one of us with your tribunal of filth and scum?

You need to be outed, as you have proven time and again to speak out of a text book not out of real life experience. A sad empty soul!

If it isnt the cartoons, it would be something else.

The outrageous just want to be enraged about something/anything.

Scew 'em...let them eat bacon!!

If I'm not mistaken, a university or college paper in Saskatoon or some other God-forsaken outpost, published a "cartoon" in their unheard of journal that depicted Jesus fellating a pig, (it may have been a Muslim) but to my knowledge no one has been killed for this sacrilegious outrage. Though I would volunteer to knee-cap him/her.

Roy Rogers used to shoot their boot heels off. That's probably what the Danish cops were aiming at, not realizing he was wearing sandals.

T- don't get too hung up on SDA posters fostering hatred of muslims. The muslims are doing a fine job of that, all on their own.

Larden- I'm not a very good Christian, but I'll gladly volunteer to hold the SOB for you.

T, I am sure there are plenty of comments throughout Kate's site that make her cringe. I don't believe that she has ever gone hunting for the culprits with a 270. Funny how the belief in free speech works.

Gord Tulk at 9:18pm
Sorry, Gord, it won't work that way. The knicker-bomber committed his crime within US territory, and is therefore subject to US criminal law (with all the protections thereof, as well).
The problematic souls residing at Guantanamo attacked US military forces outside of US territory, so they are not criminals in that sense.
Had they worn military uniforms identifying them as enemy combatants they would have been straightforward prisoners of war, with all the rights and protections afforded by the Geneva Convention. But since they were wearing civvies, they are in limbo: not subject to criminal law, not entitled to Geneva status. That's what makes them problematic.
They could have been tried by court martial on the spot and shot. That might just possibly have been more legal than stashing them at Guantanamo.
Interesting situation, eh?

Man's got to get himself a pet pig...

T,
Maybe you should have a good sobering read about the Muslims in Turkey who performed absolutely heinous crimes against three men who were guilty of holding nothing more than Saturday morning Bible studies.
These 5 guys cut out these men's tongues with knives, then cut off their genitals, stabbed them of over 150 times each and then disemboweled them while they were still alive. They finally, mercifully slit their throats so severely that they were almost decapitated.

This from the "religion of peace"!

Read more here:http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2830

The tie-in is that the family from Sask. and graduates from Briercrest Bible College were supposed to be there, but were back here in Canada at the time.

Sobering to say the least!

Islam, the religion of Pieces!

Fair enough Larben, still for $1 you should check it out. Rap is a great vehicle for people to express thier views. It is the only place I'm aware of that men are free to speak about issues important to them(right or wrong). In the 90's Chuck D from Public Enemy said that rap music is the "blackman's CNN". I'd just add that rap speaks to many men's issues regardless of race.You may disagree with an artist's point of view as I often do, but at least there is still a venue that is immune from political correctness.
Finally, if mainstream society would listen to what young men had to say instead of belittling and shitting(not you) on the POV of two generations of men, perhaps we could make progress many social issues that rap often dives into. Hip Hop is a culture for millions of men in N.America and it would be a good thing if the haters would at least show a little respect(not you) . Keep in mind that most people born later than the mid 80's don't have such strong biases towards rap or rock. Most in this group like all good music regardless of gendre.
Finally, I’m no Democrat, socialist or whatever, but; I must say that B.Obama’s “Hip Hop Inauguration” actually made me feel like part of the celebration, and I’m Canadian. Had the GOP invited Jay-Z or say Lauren Hill to perform at GWB’s inauguration, blacks, minorities and youth demographics might have identified alittle more with them. Food for thought I guess.

Indiana Homez, freedom to speak is not the same as freedom to be heard. Just cuz rap gives many bros a forum to speak does not mean that what they says is worth a ho turd in a ho's illegitimate baby shower punch bowl! Rap is crap! PERIOD!

Wayne

Interesting is right!
Where it all gets messy is bringing back criminals that committed crimes in other countries, like killing American and Canadian soldiers that are there at the behest of a foreign government (i.e. Afghanistan). It’s the inconsistency with the Obama administration that really clouds the issue. All things being equal, if I accept your premise, then it is fallacy to try criminal terrorists that committed their crimes abroad in America. Furthermore, if BO was consistent he would realize that not letting said countries prosecute the criminals in their jurisdiction is the very patronizing behaviour that BO claims to loathe.
I’d imagine this isn’t too far off your POV.

Actually Wayne, Hugh hewitt - a radio host whose fulltime job is teaching and practisong paw and who worked with Nixon and with one of the us supremes and others think that the terrorist should not even have been mirandized from the get go. I suspect their will be plenty of court time spent defining the guy's legal status very soon.

" K'naan has one if not the best Hip Hop albums of the year"

To me, that's not saying much. Just more over produced blather with a repeating catch phrase that stupid people can nod their heads to.

Some of the performers might be pretty smart guys but they cater to an audience of morons.

"Indiana Homez, freedom to speak is not the same as freedom to be heard. Just cuz rap gives many bros a forum to speak does not mean that what they says is worth a ho turd in a ho's illegitimate baby shower punch bowl! Rap is crap! PERIOD!"

Sorry dude, it's your argument that is "crap", you haven't made one solid point.
The only thing you have done is shown how irrational you can be when you don't like something. You suffer from RDS (Rap Derangement Syndrome) considering you obviously don't know the opinion of very many rappers.
Anyways, I'm now guilty of trolling, and I'm sorry Kate. Initially I was trying to share something that is important to me, and I suspect many others. I wasn't looking for a fight.

I think Gord and Pascal do a good job of making my point.
It doesn't take long for the vitriol I spoke of to make an appearance.
The funny thing is, great rappers in an attempt to make a few $$ late in their careers turn to rock/pop. For example Gnarles BarkelyGgrammy winner), Outkasts (Grammy winner best album), Kanye West, Lauren Hill(Grammy winner best album). Yup, very funny how rappers can do rock/pop better than those that have worked on it their whole lives.
Man, I'm killin these niggas!lol

is it racist to say screw somalia?

larben @ 10:55 "a university or college paper in Saskatoon". Could have been T, as I suspect he is resident somewhere in that vicinity.

"It doesn't take long for the vitriol I spoke of to make an appearance."

I think your confusing vitriol for taste there. Rap is the new disco. It's loud dance beats with stupid fashion. Unfortunately it seems to have become a lifestyle for some people. People who live in Canada, have English as a first language but can't actually speak English.

You know I just might change my attitude if someone would pull up in front of my house at 3am with the stereo blasting playing anything other than rap.

Rap, as a musical expression, has some great and amazing artistic merit, but it is all the "gangsta" attitude and all it's baggage that is beyond my tolerance threshold. The bling, the Hummers, the "booty" shakin' by all the "ho's" in all the vids is nothing but eye porn and has so little to do with what is of any lasting value in our culture.

Great dancers, great beat and lyrically brilliant(almost never...-cop killing and all). Just waiting for the dynamics to change to something with a lot more gravity.

Posted by: I wonder at January 2, 2010 9:45 PM
==============

It was really ugly to read what you wrote.

The scary part is that our soldiers are dying "over there".

And for what? Is there not an endless supply of religious nutcase no-hopers willing to blow themselves up?

T...

Google "Religion Of Peace" this is the site that is keeping score...shows that the muzzies are experts at what they do!

To all those who think that rap is crap:

See if you can find The Message by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. Get the lyrics (they're not profane), and read along. It is a highly literate, thought provoking, and quite beautiful piece.

And regards rap in general - don't forget "Sturgeon's Law" (Ted Sturgeon was a noted SF writer): "90% of everything is crap", of which a noted corollary is "Sturgeon's Law applies to people".

Wayne: someone else who agrees with me:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/01/02/war_what_war_99742.html

this incident truly is a big problem for obama.

In a related incident ...

Rap Producer Charged With Murder

Music producer Demetrius Lee Stewart, known as Shawty Redd, is being held in a suburban Atlanta jail on a murder charge. Stewart has worked with Young Jeezy, Snoop Dogg and other major artists.

KevinB, that quote you use, "90% of everything is crap", of which a noted corollary is "Sturgeon's Law applies to people", means there is a 9 to 1 probability that YOU are crap.

Yet still our Governments allow these Colinizers to come here. Knowing Its not about people but an inimical Ideology shadowing itself in a Pool of darkness as a Religion. Meanwhile this group increasing. While we decrease by our own selfishness with mad doctrines. Than allow people who want to kill us, using our tax dollars to bring over fanatics of this death cult.
Our Leaders are either insane or drunk on their own dark ideology & agree with the thuggee's.
The last treason, could be most are really this stupid with a Jim Jones cocktail of denial. Poison for free.
This is not about race but an Ideology as Religion with visions of murdering the World.
JMO

Read this story in yesterday's National Post...sans the details about country of origin, name, etc. Could have been a retired, white, methodist, fundamentalist from Borrup's Corners Ontario for all we knew. No, eh....

In any event, rumour has it that Westergaard has been quietly living in Paris for the last year. Danish police and security services have "allegedly" set up a wax dummy in his living room chair to bait these buggers.

I guess if the Danish cartoonist was drawing his piece today, he would have to depict the prophet with a bomb in his undies.

As an side, where was the logic for the undie bomber? He spent a great deal of time in the aircraft toilet presumably scrubbing and polishing his package for his upcoming rendezvous with heavenly virgins. Then he returned to his seat and tried to blow up said package.

I'll never understand muzzies but I can't help but think that if they weren't so sexually repressed, there would be a lot less trouble in the world. Young muzzie males would understand that automobiles offer possibilities infinitely more interesting than serving as bomb transporters.

Ted Sturgeon, noted SF writer - never heard of him; Nat King Cole, Sammy Davis Jr., Brook Benton, heard of them though. Sarah Vaughn, Billie Holiday, Ella, Dinah Washington and a thousand others ... oh but those were women, weren't they? But they knew real pain and hardship and racism, and it showed in their music and their voices.

ten bucks says "larben" is a white guy.

Looks like he brought a seventh century weapon to a gun fight. Keep it up you silly buggers.

Powell Lucas
Abe Froman
ROBINS111
IF WISHES WERE HORSES THEN BEGGARS COULD RIDE.
At the risk of getting technical.....
The vast adoption of 9MM is not any accident.
The US military adopted the 45ACP because some beaurocrat thought 38SW was a good idea....that didn't work out well. The US Army was losing officers, so armed right left and centre, re-issued the Colt SA in 45 and the problem was solved.
During the later 20th century, the 45ACP's limitations were finaly realized and the Beretta Model 9 became standard issue. The problem was that the users were literally afraid of it....and usually missed.
The standard assassin pistol is usually .22 rimfire because it is quiet, easilly silenced and permits precise shot placement.
9mm is a compromise....more lethal than a .22 and permitting better shot placement than the 45ACP for a variety of reasons.
9mm are also lighter and more compact, and thoroughly developed....in the case of Danish Police usually a Walter #1 (P38 with an alloy slide).
The adoption of 10mm(.40SW) by NA police represents an excellant compromise between 9mm parabellum and the massive 45ACP.
While the 45ACP is capable of commendable accuracy, training competant users is problematic...a huge consideration.
The hand and leg hits are the result of Police ROE....and indication a marksmanship. This was deliberate incapacitation without risking life-threatening wounds....a political problem....although a corpse cannot be interrogated.

Center of mass, people! Center of mass...

i just had a gestalt!...

would someone please fotoshop a cartoon of a naked mighty Mo with his penis as a burning fuse....

dagnabbit but i can see this cartoon winning a Poolicker prize ...

If there is any good news in all of this, it is that the US, Europe, Canada, and everywhere else (that's normal) just woke up again to the real threat of these Islamists. Obama also got a wake up call. The US was lucky here. I think you will now see much more support for what the US (and we) and Europe are doing in places like Afghanistan and elsewhere.

Last night Jon Stewart uttered a bit of unimpeachable wisdom.
He was interviewing a high profile journalist who had just returned from A-Stan.
The journalist estimated that only 100 Al Qaida were in A-stan...the rest in Pakistan.
Stewart blurted out "we've won then".
The Jounalist disagreed...
Where upon Steward uttered brilliance...
"ONLY 100 IN A-STAN...THAT'S NOTHING...THERE ARE MORE THAN THAT IN QUEENS."

T roll's assertion of xenophobia on this site is unwarranted. I have not seen one single example in the thousands of posts that have been made here.

Hell...I don't even know what a xeno is.

Sasquatch- That's a good assessment of one aspect of weapon development. The other aspect is political/economic. Weapons of war are often chosen according to which manufacturer is willing to shell out the most goodies, to those doing the selection.

I own, or have owned, every one of the weapons you mentioned. Any one of them can do the job. The original, full load, 10mm auto is the best combat round ever produced. Next is the 357 magnum, then the 45 auto, then the 40 S&W, then the rest. The 9mm is the Toyota Corolla of the bunch. Reliable, simple, and adequate. I left out the 44 magnum, because it's a bit too big for police work.

"The knicker-bomber committed his crime within US territory, and is therefore subject to US criminal law."

So if, say for some crazy reason, Canada declares war on the US, any Canuck troops caught on American soil will be read their rights and then make bail? Would British Bobbys have arrested German soldiers if they had been sucessful in invading back in WWII?

I am under the assumption that if a country or entity declares war upon your country then "civilian" rules don't apply.

I am culturally competent with a great deal of sensitivity for other cultures - I do not hate a particular culture - quite the opposite. What I hate is evil- as every man should. Whoever said T is a baiter - I quite agree - he/she disappears when the whats beneath the surface is exposed - namely evil under the guise of culture. How can one who pretends to defend love, goodness and tolerance consent to abominable evil and pretend their conscience is clear?

$10? Come on Kathy, surely you could offer more than that, but what's it got to do with the conversation. White men can't dance. Catholic girls start much too late. Depends on whose saying what. Bet they're black or Jewish who wrote that!

Dave in Pa:

I'm the exception that proves the rule, eh?