Let's hope so.
Posted by Kate at December 30, 2009 8:13 AMAh Yes! Mother
Russia, that cradle of religiosity. I know he wouldn't be welcome in North Vancouver for sure.
... but he would be welcome in Richmond (Check a few threads back)
Posted by: Brent Weston at December 30, 2009 8:33 AMI thought that the old fraud was on death's door.
Posted by: Thomas_L...... at December 30, 2009 8:34 AMAs long as Iranian police and soldiers are willing to beat and shoot protesting citizens, the regime leaders and satraps are safe.
Once frontline cops and soldiers decide enough is enough and refuse orders, Khamenei and After Dinner Jacket had better be on the jet pronto lest they end up hanging by their heels from street lamps like Mussolini and his mistress.
Posted by: JMD at December 30, 2009 9:05 AMIts a rat and ship thing.
Posted by: Illiquid Assets at December 30, 2009 9:09 AMI wonder if the ghost of nicolai ceausescu paid him a visit:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxp8o_nicolae-elena-ceausescu_news
(skip to the 10 minute mark for the neat stuff)
Posted by: curious_george at December 30, 2009 9:10 AMTwo swallows does not make a spring.
Posted by: sasquatch at December 30, 2009 10:08 AMhope his 72 virgins are prepared to welcome this POS
Posted by: GYM at December 30, 2009 10:09 AMWhy doesn't he just go into the crowd of protesters and blow himself up and become a martyr.... Oh wait that isn't for them, just the lowly followers.
Posted by: Largs at December 30, 2009 10:17 AMWow, Curious George, thanks for that video. It's amazing. The rebels who read the Ceaucescu's the riot act remind me of the Iranian protesters. They chose the high road and maintained their civility. I only hope that if the old bearded one in Iran does flee that a) another plane crash enroute to Russia will be reported, b) Iamadinnerjacket will flee as well, although I think a better plan for him might be to hand him over to Netanyahu and crew and c) the Bajij disappear into the woodwork and spend the rest of their lives trying to pretend they were never part of the Iranian Stazi. Some re-education focusing on the topic of human rights and the separation of mosque and state might be in order for them, as well.
All told, I hope some strong secular leadership untainted by past association with the theocracy emerges soon. The country seems to be getting more and more united against the Mullahocracy, but if Khameini is simply replaced with a more moderate cleric, not much will have been accomplished.
Posted by: Louise at December 30, 2009 11:01 AMToo many whackos, too many failed states, too many nutters believing god is telling them they can do what they want.
The world is going all wobbly, the pressure is building and its gonna blow.
One of these days and we won't know the trigger until after it happens.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Khameini is simply replaced with a more moderate cleric
That's what it looks like to me. That the world would get a new and refreshed nutter at the helm. I hope I'm wrong and see no reason for me not to be wrong, but then they do blow themselves up because God is guiding them.
I' love to see an Iranian Revolution, with all the Ayatollahs and their goon enforcer leaders reaping what they've sewed. A long line of 'em strung up by cranes. These guys deserve a date with the hangman no less than Saddam & Co. did.
Posted by: Dave in Pa. at December 30, 2009 12:20 PMIf he does decide to split, he should be very careful of who packs his bags, especially his underwear.
What goes around . . . . .
It will be interesting to see how Obama tries to take credit for anything good that happens in Iran as a result of the uprising by the very brave freedom loving members of that society.
If anything, he has worked against those rebels being a loyal radical muslim himself.
Posted by: Abe Froman at December 30, 2009 12:25 PMWhat ever happened to the bumper stickers, AYATOLLAH ASSAHOLA ??
Posted by: WESTERN CANADIAN at December 30, 2009 12:30 PMI thought revolutionaries would rather die than beat a cowardly retreat...
Besides aren't the Russians either atheist or Orthodox Christian?
So now Khamenei is having a change of faith?
Now THAT would be revolutionary!
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"
Prediction: Khamenei will NOT leave Iran within the foreseeable future (2-4 years).
There is absolutely no reason that jet should be downed en route. No reason whatsoever.
Posted by: Aaron at December 30, 2009 12:48 PMWhere would a Shia like Khamenei flee too, France?
I don't think he is going to flee.
An uprising against leaders of the faith would be revolutionary. If Iranians became allies against jihadis instead of sponsoring them, that could spell the end of al-Qaeda.
Posted by: Philanthropist at December 30, 2009 12:49 PMto flee or to fleece - Rat is the question
Posted by: Brent Weston at December 30, 2009 12:53 PMBreaking news from FNC:
Suspicious van parked in Times Square with fake licence plates causes Evacuation!
Posted by: Oz at December 30, 2009 12:55 PMA real sign that the tipping point may be close....the Basij now wear masks....hmmm.
Posted by: sasquatch at December 30, 2009 12:56 PMsasquatch:
The Basij are now wearing masks because of all the anthropogenic global warming being imported by the Copenhagen cartoons.
I'm willing to bet the Iranians will be throwing a few more logs into the flames.
If you want to stay warm in winter, like a good Canucklehead you start a fire!
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"
It's not like the alternatives will be substantially better.
Posted by: sean at December 30, 2009 1:14 PMPhilanthropist @ 12:49, and Hezbollah, too. If they get themselves a secular, moderate government, the whole Middle East dynamic will be shifted. We live in interesting times.
Posted by: Louise at December 30, 2009 1:24 PMWow, how nice of Russia to offer that pig sanctuary.
Posted by: Soccermom at December 30, 2009 1:27 PMIs it me , or does the MSM in general and the CBC in particular seem to give more relevance and support of the Iranian government thugs response to the protests , as though the MSM seems more sympathetic to the Iran government ?
... just asking?
My first thought upon reading this us that Obama will try and take credit if indeed the regime falls.
I have my doubts much will change even if he is exiled, but revolutions have a tendency to accelerate timelines so at this point any predictions are flat out baseless guesses.
Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 30, 2009 1:38 PMI hear they're warming up a Dipper nomination meeting for him in Mississauga.
Why live like a peasant in Russki when you can get a free express citizenship and gold plated MP pension in Kanadar. Maybe Taliban Jack will put him in shadow cabinet as minister of Jihad.
Posted by: The Fly at December 30, 2009 1:48 PMInteresting opinion that the more radical the Iran regime is, the better it is for Islam and the world in the long-run:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzQ4MTU0YjdmMWY3N2MyOWNkYWI2M2RmYzZlODY4YTQ=
Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 30, 2009 1:52 PMhttp://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/18412
Green movement, has arisen to demand the overthrow of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Is Regime Change Coming to Iran?
By Amil Imani Wednesday, December 30, 2009
"Introduction: Since the fraudulent June 12th Presidential elections in the Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI), an increasingly emboldened opposition, the green movement, has arisen to demand the overthrow of the IRI. The green movement refuses to desist from launching massive street protests in Tehran, Qom, Isfahan and other major Iranian cities.
All this is occurring despite violence wreaked upon thousands of valiant regime opponents by the ruling Mullahs and President Ahmadinejad. As of this writing more than 15 have been killed in clashes with Iranian security services including the nephew of reformist Presidential candidate Mir Mohammad Mousavi, former IRI Prime Minister. Moreover several dissident leaders have been jailed. Something major is brewing in Iran - possibly revolution.
Something major is brewing in Iran - possibly revolution
As the year was closing, first a crescendo of massive protests occurred at Students Day events. Then tens of thousands used the occasion of the funeral of Grand Ayatollah Montazeri to demonstrate their determination to end the rule of the Supreme Ruling Council head, Ayatollah Khamanei, and his puppet President Ahmadinejad. The final bloody weekend of 2009 witnessed the faltering IRI regime undertaking unprecedented security measures to pre-empt public mourning and observances of the Shi’a Ashura holy day. Police, revolutionary guard and the Basiji para-military forces blanketed Tehran in a vain attempt to stifle public gatherings. They failed. Massive throngs of people from all classes in Tehran and other major cities defied bans in spite of warnings that violators would be dealt with mercilessly. As a Der Spiegel article reported these protesters were shouting: “We will fight, we will die, we will reconquer our country.” There were graphic video images sent via the internet of protesters engaged in street battles with Basiji forces."
An interesting analysis...
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"
May the flees of 10,000 kamals infest his leprous scrotalia.
Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at December 30, 2009 4:02 PMGord Tulk, check out this Iranian ex-pat's take on that article:
http://thespiritofman.blogspot.com/2009/12/open-letter-to-nro.html
Posted by: Louise at December 30, 2009 4:04 PMThanks for the link louise.
I think that the NRO commentator's should be taken along the same line that it would be (and was) better for all sides if the Nazis and the imperial Japanese were defeated utterly in WW 2.
The author is arguing that In order for radical Islam to be routed and islamism as a whole to be modernized, the radicals need to truly drive Iran into the utter depths and thus make it an example upon which to forge an islamism that is compatible with the modern world. This certainly was the case for German and japanese fascism.
The author of the response to which you have linked has taken those comments on a much more personal level which while understandable given her background are taking the comments out of context (if that is the correct phrase).
Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 30, 2009 4:22 PMIf Russia is indeed helping this mongrel, it's no surprise. Honour among thieves and such.
Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at December 30, 2009 4:34 PMGord, I've been reading Winston's blog for a long time. It's a good one, if you are interested in following what's happening in Iran. Another one to follow is this one: http://azarmehr.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Louise at December 30, 2009 4:38 PMOZ @ 12:48, there is no reason that he wouldn't flee to Russia. Putin isn't stupid. He's been courting the theocratic regime for months, if not years, yet he can see what's happening. If he backs the wrong horse, his chances of maintaining a working relationship with a new post-theocratic Iran are mighty slim. He's offering the old goat a safe and honorable exit while at the same time keeping the door open to good relations with whatever subsequent government may emerge after the bearded one has settled into a comfortable Moscow or maybe Odessa apartment. If they give the old boy a few Russian prostitutes to sweeten the deal, he'll be happy and we'll never hear from him again.
Posted by: Louise at December 30, 2009 4:52 PMInteresting site:
http://planet-iran.com/
BREAKING NEWS : Frightened Islamic regime detains Mousavi and Karubi, claiming they fled
http://planet-iran.com/index.php/news/6096
December 30, 2009
The Islamic regime-run news agency, Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) has reported that due to ‘increasing anger and demand for punishment’ of the two leaders of the Green movement, they have fled.
The Green Way Movement (Jaras) however reports that the two were picked up by the revolutionary guards and the Ministry of Intelligence and Security to the village of Kelar-Abad, in the Caspian region of Iran ‘in order to protect them’.
Parleman News however interviewed Karubi’s son, Hossein who stated that his father remains in Tehran and continues to deal with the daily issues facing the people of Iran. He added: “These claims are hallucinations emanating from the minds of those who know that they will never get their way and have to resort to spreading rumors that would mold well to their wishes. People who flee are criminals, not someone like my father who has a strong background and today both my father and Mr. Mousavi are with the people of Iran who have seen so much cruelty.”
Compiled and translated by Planet Iran staff
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"
So interesting Louise that a Russian prostitute is worth so little in your eyes! I suppose it never occured to you that this lifestye wasn't what most of them dreamed about when they were ten year old little girls?
Well let's follow your perverted logic and sweeten the deal even further by thowing in a couple of your grandkids, what with good old islamic tradition and all! Think that's a rather disgusting thought? It shouldn't be seeing as you have given so little regard for someone elses child!
But I have a better thought! Why not bury him in a sack halfway in the ground and give those pros a pile of rocks! Sound a little better? I thought it might!
OZ @ 12:48, there is no reason that he wouldn't flee to Russia.
~Louise
Thank you, Louise, you're quite right.
I realize that I got that 12:48 post wrong.
I didn't click and read Kate's link as I should have.
Of course Russia would accept him, if he fled.
It was Russia that put the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in the driver's seat there in 1979.
He was Russia's man and there is no reason to believe that his successors aren't clients of Putin as well.
Still it doesn't look to me as though he is going to flee any more than keeping Air Force One ready and fueled is a sign that Obama plans to flee.
Posted by: Oz at December 30, 2009 6:53 PMhttp://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCATRE5BT16O20091230
Article at Reuters claims most of the rallies are Pro-government.
Posted by: Dmorris at December 30, 2009 6:59 PMNext door in Afghanistan:
AssPress buries the following here*:
O's War:
"*Several hundred Afghans demonstrated in the capital of Kabul and in the eastern city of Jalalabad where the likeness of Obama, adorned with a small American flag, burned on a pole held above demonstrators.
In Kabul, protesters carried signs that read: "Does peacekeeping mean killing children?" and "Stop killing us." A protester with a bullhorn called on Obama to "take your soldiers out of Afghanistan."
Qari Hamidullah, a student protest leader in Jalalabad, urged the Afghan government to call for the withdrawal of foreign forces from Afghanistan.
"If they do not accept our demand, we will put down our pens, take rockets and got to the mountains to fight the Americans and their forces," Hamidullah told protesters, who chanted and waved their arms in the air."
"*US officials: 8 Americans killed in suicide attack"
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2009/12/30/12302206-ap.html
Posted by: maz2 at December 30, 2009 7:06 PMwhat's your problem haha?
Ms Louise suggests a very plausible scenario.
do I need to give you a primer on how Boris Yeltsin spent his final days?
there's a vast difference between *predicting* an outcome and *wanting* it to happen but spoiled narcissists like you are too focused on *self* to get it.
Blood on the streets.A telepromter speech of concern.The uroweenies happy that their oil supply is secure and the revolutionary guards triumph once again.The west has no leaders or will.
Posted by: greyburr at December 30, 2009 7:24 PMIf the Ayatollahs show me what they've sewn, I'll show them my petit-point! Sorry I just couldn't resist it.
Posted by: larben at December 30, 2009 7:44 PMI nominate haha for the new Ayatollah!
Posted by: larben at December 30, 2009 7:49 PMWord is that Obama will apologize for any bumps in the Ayatollah's runaway, runway.
Barry Hussein will fill the potholes with "just words".
Posted by: zilla at December 30, 2009 8:17 PMMazz, thanks for that link. I wonder how Obama feels about being burned in effigy,instead of being universally adored.
Nice to see an American other than GW Bush called nasty names by the permanently crazy Islamic protesters around the world.
Posted by: DMorris at December 30, 2009 8:30 PMAyatollah Khamenei Preparing To Flee Iran
Him & how many of his goats?
Posted by: Revnant Dream at December 30, 2009 8:42 PMWhat's wrong with pissy pants?
Posted by: Anon at December 30, 2009 9:46 PMMaybe he could move in with Hugo Chavez, if he wants to help govern in a crazy oil superpower.
Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at December 30, 2009 10:04 PM
Oh come on DMorris. When have "the permanently crazy Islamic protesters around the world" not burned American presidents in effigy? Dubya was far from the first one.
He could just show up at Pearson International as a refugee then Canada is obliged to take care of him.
Wouldn't that be a F@#*%ng treat.
(a) graceful exit for the mullahs; (b) Ceausescu treatment. Choose one.
Posted by: nv53 at December 30, 2009 11:52 PMGord Tulk
I agree with your interpretation of the article. And I am not surprised that Winston, Arash and other Iranians and ex-pats bloggers took it very personally and misunderstood the meaning of article - after all it is their country.
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Parisa Hafezi of Reuters :
"To point out that Reuters’ Parisa Hafezi has published, on Reuters’ byline, the closest thing to the Iranian government’s point of view that won’t show up on Mahmoud’s letterhead. A Google search on “Parisa Hafezi” turns up a mine of stories couched from that perspective, more or less. This is how Parisa Hafezi can continue to operate within the tyranny that is the Islamic Republic of Iran, and this is the product that Reuters puts out to its thousands of outlets around the world. Hafezi is useful to Iran, by publishing its perspective (though it’s often tin-eared and clueless, as in calling David Duke a “US academic”) as hard news."
http://eddriscoll.com/archives/010071.php
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I am not suprised that Russians support Ahmadinejad' government - they both want euro to become the oil currency, they both want to weaken USA, Russia (with Iranian help) is trying to corner Europe market for natural gas and Iran is the biggest market for Russian weapons. But some in the Russian government are betting that the allies and the international policy of the (possible) new Iranian government would stay the same. They think that the major changes would apply only to the domestic policies of the new government. I think that if Rafsanjani and perhaps Mousavi become major voices in the new government, Russian predictions may be correct.
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