You are right there is nothing Obama can't do. And how about your Harper, Kate? Stating in an interview with CTV that a carbon tax could not be ruled out for Canada as Canada has to wait and see the steps the USA takes and then follow as to have a unified front to address climate change and instability. Harper is coming over to the liberal side more and more every day. Wonderful.

At what point do we stop laughing at the "new world order" predictions?

When the Belgians show up at your doorstep in Saskatchewan with a warrant for your arrest for thought crimes against minorities?

T: What's Harper's connection with the story?

Kate: AndY (missed the Y).

Talk about giving away the farm, this is the start of the slippery slope for sure. To start to give up sovereignty so easily, one has to wonder what was the reason for this "executive order". I am surprised that the Constitution defenders aren't charging the ramparts. Does CSIS get carte blanche in the US too? How about the KGB (or whatever it is called these days)?

Yes, there is something that POTUS can't do. The will of the people.

He has the will of the overlords to bow to, not the best for the people he was sworn in to serve.

Next up, Dick Cheney in the ICC dock.

"This international police force (whose U.S. headquarters is in the Justice Department in Washington) will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law"

Why not? This current Washington administration has been "unrestrained by the constitution and American law" - why not let foreigners in on the grift.

As usual T illustrates his reason for his polical position....simple ignorance.

Reality is not whether or not AGW even exists---the US is Canada's biggest trading partner.

Regardless of how stupid, insane or just plain ignorant, US policy is it more or less dictates Canadian policy.

Living next to a giant, even a friendly giant, is not always easy...Mitchell Sharp....

"In light of what we know and can observe, it is our logical conclusion that President Obama's Executive Order amending President Ronald Reagans' 1983 EO 12425 and placing INTERPOL above the United States Constitution and beyond the legal reach of our own top law enforcement is a precursor to more damaging moves"

Yes,it is a logical conclusion that this is probably the first step in preparing Americans for the fact of "One World Government" which Obama's quiet sponsors favour.

Now, to get the Supreme Court on side.Shouldn't be a problem. Next step is the ICC.

Hmmmm

PMSH is doing what he always does....realpolitik.

And if certain leftoids can't see that, all the better.

No damage done and the ball is in Obama's court.

It would appear that PMSH made all the right moves.

Abort! Abort! Abort!

We are all zeropeans now...subject to interpol, and in the sausage factory of government healthcare. Cant we recall some of these weasel senators?

I smell 'impeachment' in the air.

I am sure the ACLU will get right on the case.

I wonder if this is enough?

Explanations decidedly in order.

Make it a good one too, slick. And stop moving your head from side to side like that, huh? It makes you look like a freakin' window display or something.

T, you hold a very superficial view of current events and politics.
There is NO way in hell US Congress is going to pass any carbon related bill as it needs a 2/3 majority to do so.
Harper knows this and thus feels comfortable in stating his policy.

I'm pretty much open to any and all conspiracy theories regarding obozo from now on. Seriously, why would a president of the United States give up sovereignty like that? What's the point? Or the plan?
And I wonder if his base that loves global governance so much will suddenly realize it means one more police force watching them?
Regarding T's lame attempt at cleverness; Harper played it perfectly - just flannel mouth some comments about carbon so as not to upset the lefties. He knows this lunacy is dying fast and obozo's dithering gives him the perfect strategy.

I got $10 that says INTERPOL will be the new repository for all things that the Democrats do not want found out. ACORN may even use it!!! What a scumbag, I hope the american people wake up and impeach this retard!

There it is folks, the reason every single person with a functioning brain started stockpiling guns and ammunition in Nov. 2008. Those with real foresight started when McCain got the Republican nomination.

Well T, we did tell you this was going to happen. We really, really did. And now that it actually -has- happened, you like a typical imbecile are trying to deflect the conversation to cover the fact that you were A) wrong and B) a real d1ck about it. When real people are getting shot by these pricks you'll be pretending its not what you wanted all along. Sorry, you are busted. Again.

Lefty useful idiots were warned, they went ahead anyway, and now The One has his own private INTERPOL force who can do any damn thing they like.

Or rather, they would be able to except for all those pesky GUNS that the stupid low class beer swilling popcorn eating Americans are so in love with. The ones that the DemocRat party has been trying in earnest to get rid of since 1968. The ones that every Canadian politician insists we peasants don't need and shouldn't be allowed to have.

Good luck INTERPOL. I want to see how y'all manage the 3AM boot through the door when the Jews inside have more and bigger weapons than you do. Anybody remember the Warsaw Ghetto? Multiply by 100 million.

Keep that powder dry, my friends.

Obama and his Czar's are continuing their mission to forever change the America.

Damn the Constitution full Alinski ahead! When the Dem's are tossed from office the damage will be too great and recovery unlikely.

This is what Obama can do.

If they are unrestrained by the Constitution and US law, so is my response if they come for me.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Gestapo is in the house.

The beginnings of a police state.

Obongo is interested in global governance because the malignant tumor that is his ego sees himself in charge of everything everywhere.

This is, in part, because he believes the nonsense in the international press about how much everyone loves him.

France and Germany have a similar attitude regarding the European Union.

Put Andorra in charge of the EU, and we'll start hearing all about French and German sovereignty.

Fill the senior posts at Interpol with Chinamen, and we'll start hearing all about American sovereignty.

"Harper is coming over to the liberal side more and more every day. Wonderful."
T

No he isn't, he just knows none of you Statist freaks will say a bad thing about Obama so he hooks his wagon to the Big Owe's dithering and it renders you toothless and useless.

What's the point?
What's the plan?

The plan has been devised thousands years ago and put on paper 150 years ago. It's published, read it.

Hey, now we know who has Obama's birth certificate...
The Bilderburg group!

OweBowLo had better watch those "bible & gun" rednecks in flyover country, as when they set their bibles down it will be for a reason, it's better to aim a gun with two hands free

grok

you probable have a good point,

to stem off an up rising may be achieved with an impeachment

I don't just want him impeached, he has to be charged with and tried for treason.

Some Globalist dupe reflexively mouths this mythology:

"as Canada has to wait and see the steps the USA takes and then follow as to have a unified front to address climate change and instability. Harper is coming over to the liberal side more and more every day. Wonderful."

Still deluded in the fraudulent Left-Right political paradigm eh? Why do you think Obama frigged up COP1% so badly? Why would he purposely PO the Chinese who the agreement hung on? Could it be because they hold a lot of US paper [debt]dollars BO's banker pals don't want back? Wake up dummy! BO works for Wall Street! Who got the bulk of his welfare hand outs? Inner city ghettos or the WS investment banks and networked corporations?

BO works for transnational investment interests and the domestic bankers who want that capital in their banks - just as most G20 leaders do.

I think it's hilarious how you lefties are so submerged in your utopian intoxication you can't see your Eco movements, labour movements and the Dem and Liberal parties are wholly owned by big finance and transnational corporate interests.

Ostrich.

In a word, frightening.

However, this is perfectly consistent with Bam Bam's administration from day one. They have demonstrated time and again what low regard (even disdain) they hold the American constitution. This simply proves it beyond shadow of doubt.

I don't believe Phantom was exaggerating with his gun comments, either. This could get ugly.

Why is this not front page news?

Some of the cattle that voted for Obama are probably starting to wonder about what is in store for them at the other end of the chute that he is herding them into. I'd love to see some of the orders he gets from Master Soros at least to see how well he toes the line.

Well said Phantom. It's becoming very clear why governments want a disarmed population. I'm glad that I live in an area where most of my neighbors are armed.

I stocked up on ammo when the price was still low. Topping up supplies now is rather pricey so time to get into reloading.

At what point do BO's violations of the US constitution get him impeached?

methinks T is on christmas break and his mum has gone to walmart. short window for him.

T, are you still around. I thought that you had taken Dianne Francis's advice.

Kate, it's now time to begin asking 'Is There Nothing Obama Will Not Do?'

Take heart ... Americans are not Canadians .. they value their freedom ... most of them anyway.

"Mark my words friends. All across America groups are forming. They are forming out of anger and out of desperation at the thought of losing America. They're not militia groups, terrorists as the Department of Homeland security would have you believe; they are Americans, loyal to the Constitution.
They are mothers and fathers and grandparents. They belong to groups like the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps, the Peaceful Resistance, the Constitution Party, the Young Conservatives, the 9/12 Project, and Grassfire. Right now they are fragmented, each focused on their own cause.
But sometime in the next two years, our government is going to do something really stupid and these groups will come together. Watch for it, wait for it -- get ready. It will happen." - From Naval Aviator, Commander Jerry Wilson

Read all of it HERE if you want to.

Hmmm, Gitmo prisoners should have Constitutional protections, all others not. Some sort of logical disconnect there.

But then, they are leftists...

US orders 35 drone spy planes that pick up conversations and fly at 35,000 feet.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCH7kfwvmw6M

Well I can't say I am surprised . . . after all the American security apparatus can't keep the Salahis from crashing White House parties, maybe the Euro's will be better prepared.

lock and load,,,,,,,,,,,,,The dinks are in the wire,,,,,light em up,,,,,,

Didn't the obamessiah propose a 100,000+ strong "civil defence" force apart from the military. This could be the skeleton of this plan. I am sure the oath of office will require these people to be loyal to the president, not the constitution.

Speaking of oaths, perhaps some of our US visitors could clarify this for us but doesn't the oath of US Service Personell require them to "protect and defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic"? I think they have a great big domestic enemy and I think it's their boss!

Really, this is just another step in the destruction of the US by liberals just as running up the debt to anfathomable proportions is. Boss Soros is just waiting to short the US$ just as he did the pound, except that the amount of money will make his current fortune look like chump change. Fortunately for him, his hireling in the WH will be able to help him time it perfectly

It's an attack on the United States of America by a fifth columnist President.

He has to be stopped at some point.

Frightening is correct. I shudder for what is ahead, especially after Chittick's comment..."what is in store for them at the other end of the chute that he is herding them into." Too reminiscent of another time.

And on that topic, reminiscent of another time, anyone else enjoy the cover of the Conservative's 2010 calendar as much as I did? Even I, at 81, recognized it immediately. Bless you PMSH and family! Your sense of humour is sooooo Canadian.

I wonder if Obama is laying groundwork for US war crimes prosecutions, by outsourcing them to Interpol. This way the left gets a big bone tossed to it while Obama gets the political cover of claiming he's not the one doing the prosecuting, that he's just cooperating with the international community.

It's the only thing I can think of. Truly vile. This man is really gunning for Carter's spot as worst modern US president!

Coming to Canada soon? or is it already here?
A pig of any coat is still a pig.

This should be front-page news. Hopefull Glen Beck picks this one up and runs with it.

So now Gitmo detainees have constitutational rights, but Joe law-abiding citizen does not, if pursued by Interpol thought police, nor does the former President and Vice-President, who were acting to defend America. Further, the President has a very effective, bullet-proof repository for anything he or his questionable cohorts don't want the public to see. Obama doesn't just have contempt for the constitution and the founding fathers, but he has contempt for the American people. He is a dangerous man. It's frustrating that lefties still believe that lefty politicians are "nicer" than the right because they care more about the common man, when in fact lefty politicians use big government not to help the common man, but to control him.

Questions

What laws are INTERPOL subject to in Canada? Is INTERPOL subject to Canadian FOIPP legislation? Who holds primacy over INTERPOL data...the SCC or the ICC?

Syncro

See also Ed Morrissey and comments at Hot Air:

http://tinyurl.com/ycobx7j

what has the ACLU got to say about this?

How about the KGB (or whatever it is called these days)?

MSNBC.

That sonofabitch will start a bloody revolution yet, and I mean bloody as in blood in the streets! He's a damn fool!

gellen: "And on that topic, reminiscent of another time, anyone else enjoy the cover of the Conservative's 2010 calendar as much as I did?"

Yeah, it's GR-8 -- and not in your face.

G*d bless Prime Minister Stephen Harper, his family, and Canada. PMSH is a steady hand at the tiller of the Ship of State and we are totally blessed to have him as our Prime Minister -- at any time, but especially as the world is heading into stormy seas.

'Too bad our neighbours to the South have to suffer this (dangerous) fool Obama -- and that PM Harper has the misfortune of having to negotiate with the twisted twit.

We all need to pray -- and if you don't, then now's a good time to start!

This is stupid. Not the EO (which might be, but it's not obvious), but the reactions.

INTERPOL is not a police agency. It "works closely with" various governments (and the ICC, sure), but all it does is provide information.

It does not have "officers", and it does not arrest people. It shares information between member governments. It has about 500 employees worldwide and a $59M budget.

It's not a scary one-world-police-state organ. It's a joke as a "police agency" - but that's because it isn't one.

The scary "operatives" in the DOJ who are "working 'for' INTERPOL"? US DOJ employees acting as our liasons to the organizations.

They're no more "immune to prosecution" than the US Ambassador to the UN is.

Seriously, did anyone anywhere on the interwebs do any research before repeating all of this?

There are real potential threats to US sovereignty - INTERPOL isn't one of them.

(And contra some confused commenters above, INTERPOL is as far I can determine structurally unconnected to the ICC, and the ICC has no power over it.

The ThreatWatch people handwaving about "maybe Obama will sign the ICC treaty [and then ask the Senate to ratify] next!!!" is the only source for that belief I can see, and it's purely speculative and has nothing to do with INTERPOL itself.

Remember that one should be skeptical and critical about everything some pundit puts forward, even when it's convenient as a way to be upset at a President you don't like.

This was true in 2004, and it's true now. I didn't vote for Obama and at this rate may never even consider voting for a Democrat again at any level, but this? This is a tempest in a teapot.)

Wow, the trolls come out in full force when you get to close to the truth, eh sigi?

Hanging the big 0 for treason just doesn't seem to be enough.

Obama and his ilk consider "inernational" organisations as having more validity than those parochial US constitutional ones.

The US should, according to their thinking, never go to war unless sanctioned by the UN.

Of course, these fools ignore that the UN is populated in the majority by corrupt, envious enemies of the US.

gellen at December 23, 2009 4:05 PM

Yes,although I get annoyed by politicians send me Christmas card with their mug on them, I found the Abbey Road calender smile-worthy; they must have had fun taking that shot :-)

You are aware that Obama is simply according the rights of any consulate to INTERPOL and that Ronald Reagan is the one who gave them this status, since he is the one who wrote the original? http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12425

Interpol, whose full name is the International Criminal Police Organization – INTERPOL,[1] is an organization facilitating international police cooperation. It was established as the International Criminal Police Commission in 1923 and adopted its telegraphic address as its common name in 1956.

It has a membership of 188 countries. The organization's headquarters are in Lyon, France. It is the second largest intergovernmental organization after the United Nations.

Its current Secretary-General is Ronald Noble, formerly of the United States Treasury. Jackie Selebi, National Commissioner of the South African Police Service, was president from 2004 but resigned on 13 January 2008, later being charged in South Africa on three counts of corruption and one of defeating the course of justice.

Interpol was founded in Austria in 1923 as the International Criminal Police (ICP). Following the Anschluss (Austria's annexation by Nazi Germany) in 1938, the organization fell under the control of Nazi Germany and the Commission's headquarters were eventually moved to Berlin in 1942. It is unclear, however, if and to what extent the ICPC files were used to further the goals of the Nazi regime. However, from 1938 to 1945, the presidents of Interpol included Otto Steinhäusl (a general in the SS), Reinhard Heydrich (a general in the SS, and chair of the Wannsee Conference that appointed Heydrich the chief executor of the "Final solution to the Jewish question"), Arthur Nebe (a general in the SS, and Einsatzgruppen leader, under whose command at least 46,000 people were killed), and Ernst Kaltenbrunner (a general in the SS, the highest ranking SS officer executed after the Nuremberg Trial).

So what does the most powerful international police force do?

Does INTERPOL track political corruption?

No, their charter forbids it.

Does INTERPOL stop military corruption?

No, their charter forbids it.

Does INTERPOL stop religious corruption?

No, their charter forbids it.

OK, does INTERPOL focus on murder?

Well, no.

So what does INTERPOL focus on?

Well, turns out they focus on "intellectual property crime" and money laundering by non-government, non-military, non-religious serfs, I mean people.

So the most powerful international police force on the planet cares about catching kids who download MP3s not military cabals that cheat in elections.

And they used to be run by the NAZIs.

That's just the sort of people we can trust, right?

Sigivald said: "It does not have "officers", and it does not arrest people. It shares information between member governments. It has about 500 employees worldwide and a $59M budget."

Uh huh. Source?

Furthermore even assuming you're right, so what? They can't hire more guys? Get a bigger budget? They would never do that, we can trust you?

Barry just gave these guys immunity from prosecution, carte blanch powers of arrest, search, seizure and surveillance (that means they can do -anything-) AND protected their records and communications from public scrutiny. Powers and protections the FBI, CIA don't have, can't get under the Constitution and probably have wet dreams over.

That's all needed for a an outfit with 500 guys and a $59 mil budget... why?

I reiterate, everybody with a brain stockpiled arms already. What's your cranial malfunction, buddy?

Cuz "sharing" is good!

From http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/plus/a0935/final.pdf

In 2008, INTERPOL’s total statutory budget was approximately $64.1 million and the United States’ contribution to INTERPOL was $8.5 million.

In FY 2008, INTERPOL had a staff of 588, representing 84 countries. In addition to 398 contract employees, INTERPOL also had 190 seconded staff from member countries.

It does appear to be rather powerful for an organization slightly under 1100 people worldwide.

er, slightly under 1200

Google = Interpol Operations

Now it seems that INTERPOL is a favorite of the UN... which in itself should raise some interest in anyone even remotely interested in the arena of international scams and fraud.

However...

Ronald Reagan signed the thing into being in 1983.

As far as I can tell the order already protected INTERPOL and other agencies under The International Organizations Act.
Barry's ammendment has to do with syntax in the document which is:

"...except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action."

What ever happened to reading?

Read the background .... this looks like administrative houskeeping on the Grammar used in the order....

If a legal eagle can interpret the signifigance of the changes and conclude anything of substance ... let's hear it ... I know there's a couple out there in the ether.

Significance............ech

The B.O. finds another hard sell on his plate:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/091223/world/international_us_iran_nuclear

interpol just took a page out of Blackwater's op manual. tqvm white house occupants past and present.

Welcome America to the wacky World of Fascism under the Judicial Robe of Progressivism.
You are being lied to & your government being despoiled.
Say goodbye as we did 800 Years of English legal tradition with the end being the hight of Human Liberty on this Planet. The American Constitution.
JMO

this bill was first signed into law in 1983 by Regan. why weren't people upset then? This is an extension.

Interpol....."It does not have "officers", and it does not arrest people."

HMMMM

Funny thing... a few years back I counselled and was present when a neighbour, was "interviewed" by a pair of INTERPOL agents (Irish) seeking an IRA fella. They were plain clothes but were packing (armed...Walther P1's). No Canadian Police were present......hardly an administrative role....These were serious people....Yes I checked their bone fides....they were the real McCoy.

The Obamanation is rising. Brownshirts spying in your neighbourhoods, Infraguard agents running your businesses, etc. Don't like it? SHUT UP and take your mercury laced vaccine SLAVE!!
They want to start a civil war so they can declare MARTIAL LAW and toss all the slaves into FEMA camps. Alex Jones has been telling "y'all" this for a decade, and you've done NOTHING but laugh and call him a nut. You bunch of stupid kool-aid guzzelers! CSIS has been keeping secret files on Canadians for decades. The FOIA doesn't give you any info, all you get is blacked out documents. Obama and Harper are PUPPETS of the New World Order, and America and Canada are going DOWN!

The Obamanation is rising. Brownshirts spying in your neighbourhoods, Infraguard agents running your businesses, etc. Don't like it? SHUT UP and take your mercury laced vaccine SLAVE!!
They want to start a civil war so they can declare MARTIAL LAW and toss all the slaves into FEMA camps. Alex Jones has been telling "y'all" this for a decade, and you've done NOTHING but laugh and call him a nut. You bunch of stupid kool-aid guzzelers! CSIS has been keeping secret files on Canadians for decades. The FOIA doesn't give you any info, all you get is blacked out documents. Obama and Harper are PUPPETS of the New World Order, and America and Canada are going DOWN!

epona said: "this bill was first signed into law in 1983 by Regan. why weren't people upset then? This is an extension."

This is twice now I've seen this comment. Just because something was signed into law by Ronald Regan does not make it a good idea.

Ronald Regan and George W. Bush were conservatives BY CONTRAST to Bill Clinton and the odious peanut farmer. Looked at in a smaller frame they were both big government presidents.

Furthermore I very much doubt that what Barry just signed is the same thing Ronald Regan signed. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but that's my opinion.

I don't like big government. It is cowardly, stupid and dangerous to give power over your life and liberty to police organizations. Also just plain expensive, and even given the most honest and well meaning leadership in the world, inefficient.

Freedom is safer, cheaper and better. I'd like some more of it please, and right fricking smartly.

I really doubt The President has the authority to do that. The state governments can refuse. The president's office exists at the pleasure of the individual states and I believe if 35 states agree, they can bring down the president. This would be far more serious than impeachment, it would be treason.

The keepers of the constitution are the state governments, not the federal government and I believe BO's days are numbered.

“America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”

........ those are the opening lines of “101 Things To Do ‘Til The Revolution” by Claire Wolfe.

Mulroney was teflon, so is Harper. Bush was corrupt and stupid.

All you facists are the same. You can't argue a point so you name call. Grow up!!