A retired priest gets a visit from his old boss.
Got to give the guy full marks for dedication. He's ceased emitting carbon dioxide, or at least he will once the "ashes to ashes" bit happens.
Posted by: gordinkneehill at December 19, 2009 3:35 PMCanon Cooke reminds me of the Rev. Peter Nordwestdeutscher, one of the minor characters in the late Michael Wharton's "Peter Simple" columns. Liberal Democratic councilor, environmental campaigner, and "industrial chaplain", Canon Cooke would have been on the sharp end of Wharton's pen.
Posted by: Roseberry at December 19, 2009 3:40 PMNow that he is looking at his Creator in the eyes, I wonder if he wishes he would have spent his short stint here on earth paying more attention to what God had to say about man than what man has to say about God!
Posted by: glacierman at December 19, 2009 4:00 PMHelp me people please - I must be "too stupid to feed myself" - do not plants and trees need carbon dioxide to grow and are not humans a "carbon based" lifeform? - If we reduce our carbon footprint as much as Copenhagen wants, then we WILL disappear.
Posted by: Johanne at December 19, 2009 4:02 PMPerhaps it's a bit of a stretch but this looks a lot like a sign of divine intervention. Now if the almighty would strike down Gore and/or Suzuki as well, we will know we are in a state of grace.
Posted by: sasquatch at December 19, 2009 4:04 PMHey, at least he cycled there and didn't jet and limo his way there like a lot of the rest of the enviroweenies.
Posted by: Jethro at December 19, 2009 4:16 PMG*d bless the Rev. Canon Hereward Cooke, and may he rest in peace.
'Nothing wrong with cycling to Copenhagen -- at least he put his money where his mouth is and, as it turns out, his life on the line -- for his beliefs. David Suzuki and his ilk didn't ride bikes to Copenhagen, no doubt, flying first class.
That having been said, however, many of us in the Church are tired of the social activist crusaders dressed up in priestly garb. Jesus wasn't a social activist, contrary to what many think. He was first and foremost committed to the coming of the Kingdom of G*d, which meant putting G*d first and spending time in prayer to find out just what this means in our lives.
Too often social activism takes the place of true worship and becomes an idol. I can't judge whether this was the case with Hereward Cooke, but all too often this is what happens when people mix let's-save-the-planet zeal with religious faith: There's a danger that saving the planet and whatever that entails usurps service of G*d and neighbour.
Posted by: batb at December 19, 2009 4:18 PMNow, if he AND his bike could be composted, that would really do the "zero foot print" thing well.
Posted by: b_C at December 19, 2009 4:18 PMKate...you certainly have a way of being blunt, bordering on irreverent, and totally analytical, and funny all at the same time.
God bless you!
and glacierman...amen!
Why such gratuitous provocation, Kate? What harm have grammarians ever caused you?
...gets TO visit his old boss, not gets A visit from his old boss
And jumping to judgment..."visit"? Are you implying he will then go somewhere else?
Tut, tut, young lady!
Posted by: Tenebris at December 19, 2009 4:30 PMRev.Cooke may have to answer why he adopted a new religion,and followed the word of false gods.
Anyone want to bet that he'll never meet Al Gore in the hereafter, at least not if he took the "UP" elevator?
Posted by: dmorris at December 19, 2009 4:36 PMJust noodling here trying to compute the carbon footprint of cremation. Pyres seem to have a fairly unjust footprint as well.
Also busy checking the UN sites to see if they have any advice on just ways to dispose of human remains. No luck so far.
Posted by: shaken at December 19, 2009 4:46 PMPerhaps, the Allmighty did not want him there, he decided, on his own to take the chance.
Posted by: Lev at December 19, 2009 4:47 PMAs Yahshua said to the Samarian woman at the well,"you know not what you worship".
So it is with 99% of the world today,who do not even know the true name of our Elohim. Much less what Yahweh's will is.
Baruch Ha Shem Yahweh!
Posted by: Alf at December 19, 2009 5:29 PMThere goes the carbon budget.
http://interesting-weird-educational-videos.blogspot.com/2009/12/scientists-discover-and-image-explosive.html
The pressure here is roughly 1700 pounds per square inch!!
Posted by: RW at December 19, 2009 6:14 PMPoor old chap. Leading a group of 25 anti AGW loons on a by the mile sponsored bicycle trip to Copenhagen in a snowstorm. Bit odd the way his bio seems to be all about after 1989 everywhere on Google.
Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at December 19, 2009 6:19 PMIt's sad to think how hate-filled and bitter you all are.
Posted by: bleet at December 19, 2009 6:31 PMHereward the Wake indeed....
and please stop calling these schismatics 'priests'.....
any 'priestly' function they may undertake has zero standing in the eyes of our Lord.
Yes, John and "our Lord" would be absolutely thrilled with all of you getting joy from the death of a human being.
Merry Christmas.
Posted by: bleet at December 19, 2009 6:58 PMshaken at December 19, 2009 4:46 PM,
I suspect the most extreme of the AGW crowd has the Soylent Green solution in mind.
Posted by: Dave in Pa at December 19, 2009 7:02 PMNo no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! ... You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwich Greenies stun easily...
Posted by: Mark R at December 19, 2009 7:05 PMNice post Batb.
Posted by: Terry Anderson at December 19, 2009 7:19 PMBleet, you must have mistaken us all for Copenhagen delegates.
Posted by: Free Thinker at December 19, 2009 7:33 PMLet 'em eat marzipan.
Next stop on the Red-Green pilgrimage: St. O's Xmas.
Mush, you "first dog".
Here is MSM's disclaimer:
>>> "The decorations are apparently less lavish than in previous administrations, so as to reflect the harsh economic climate. America is currently going through its worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, with unemployment at 10%."
...-
"White House tightens security for marathon of 17 Christmas parties"
"Those who get through will be treated to the sight of Christmas trees, wrapped in 2,700 yards of ribbon, 129 wreaths and a 390lb sculpture of the White House made from marzipan and chocolate, including Bo, the first dog."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6962848.ece
Posted by: maz2 at December 19, 2009 7:40 PMMust have missed the Terms of Use at SDA, bleet; sense of humour's mandatory.
Oh, and death is just Gaia's way of telling you to "Slow down!"
Posted by: b_C at December 19, 2009 7:42 PMbleet must be crushed by the AGW trainwreck unfolding before his eyes and so admonishes everyone for lack of compassion toward an acolyte of gaia without acknowledging his contempt and unchristian forays against the severely normal citizens that did not drink the kool-aid.
Posted by: uuess at December 19, 2009 8:04 PM"It's sad to think how hate-filled and bitter you all are."
Mmmm, too right. Because we can't all be compassionate like bleet and his Leftrash pals: bent on character destruction of people like Sarah Palin, or publicly opining and wishing for the assassination of GW Bush, or rejoicing publicly at Reagan's death, ad infinitum. Is that the level of compassion to which we haters on the Right should aspire, bleet?
I don't rejoice at this man's death, nor do I suspect the bloggers at this site feel likewise. However, those among us who are not bereft of a sense of irony DO recognize that Fate tends to smile at the self-righteous and haughty, and through her random acts of sublime irony, makes fools of many of us in the end.
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
Hear, hear, batb, vis-a-vis your remark about the activist priestly class.
The current Pope, celebrated here on numerous occassions for his historic speech at Regensberg (sp?)-- wherein he waxed so eloquently about the west and reason -- is sadly and perversely in the climate fraud camp, having given his infallible papal blessing to the lunatic notion that man is destroying the planet.
All praise to our twice-retired priest who at least walked the walk (rode the ride?).
If you think about it, it's quite fitting that the priest was a ideological bicylist, for, as we all know, no group on the planet has quite the whiff of moral rectitute about them as bicyclists.
Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at December 19, 2009 8:59 PMyes bleet...i xly take great satisfaction from watching my enemies carried to their biers before mine eyes..
it's a sin i know but i exult in the symmetry.
first i come across some loathesome gull...some bright fool or useful eedjit.
THEN perhaps only minutes or days or months later i see them under the green quilt...
i wish...and the fates reward me...someone up there likes me..i reckon the shade of Mencken intercedes on my behalf ...
but have a nice day anyway bleet..
and bleet ?...if you're out on your bike at night ?..please wear white.
Posted by: john begley at December 19, 2009 10:06 PMAh martyrdom at last! Perhaps he was on his way to Rome?
Posted by: larben at December 19, 2009 10:59 PMbleet,
You obviously mistaken the irony in a man of the cloth being called home after the end of a long bike ride in the middle of a blizzard to a conference to try and take the money out of the hands of one class of society and redistribute it to the richer class of society because they think they know more than the rest of us pions. This all to try and get the world to try and cool down.
Don't you see the irony? God is in charge, regardless of what man attempts to do. He holds the power of life and death.
Posted by: glacierman at December 19, 2009 11:07 PMbleet - in the spirit of the appropriately non-denominational season, I don't really want to beat up on you, but isn't it one of your complaints that SDA is all Objectivist and Atheistic and junk? Don't you approve of Kate talking religion?
Still waiting for you to get back to me about those batteries, BTW.
john begley - shady or otherwise, Mencken would be surprised to find himself interceding from the astral plane in any capacity, don't you think? Esp. on behalf of a man who considers Protestants "schismatics" (have no dog in fight; just sayin').
Posted by: Black Mamba at December 19, 2009 11:11 PMyou guys can yak it up all you like but the original post and your comments are all about taking delight in a human being's death.
Posted by: bleet at December 20, 2009 1:29 AMglacierman has it right. Too many in the clergy are invoking the name of God to advance a secular agenda. They should pay more attention to Godly puruits.
Posted by: Dirtman at December 20, 2009 2:09 AMBleet; do not, I repeat DO NOT, visit 'Darwin Awards'...;)
Posted by: DaninVan at December 20, 2009 2:34 AM OT sorry, but I thought you may get a laugh outta this. Lizzie May blaming
Canada for the failure of Copenhagen.
http://www.cknw.com/other/audiovault.html
The interview starts at about the 4:34 mark.
Enjoy
Posted by: DeNihilist at December 20, 2009 2:47 AMI, for one, feel no happiness at this man's death. At least he had the courage of his convictions, unlike so many Copenhypocrites.
I know I've annoyed many here with my posts that are pro-electric vehicles, but I defy anyone to point to a single one where I've suggested people be forced to use one. What bugs me so much about the Hopenchangen gang is they want to impose their values on me. The fact that their values are based on ridiculously compromised "science" is irrelevant; it could be based on the purest science available, and I'd still object to having one group impose intolerant ideals on another. New Hampshire has it right - "Live free or die".
God rest this poor man's soul. He died in his honest pursuit of what he thought was right. I hope, when my time comes, people will say as much about me.
Posted by: KevinB at December 20, 2009 8:09 AMCycled off to the summit while asleep, journeyed while asleep, arrived asleep and died asleep. Good Night Sir; such is God's mercy for fools.
Posted by: Charles H. Booker at December 20, 2009 8:19 AMI believe the Pope and parish priests have made note of the need for restraint in our material needs, and consideration for the environment. However, to my knowledge those in the Roman parishes do not have "diocesan environmental officers" per say. There main concern is the spiritual health of the parish and all mankind, and pressing everyday needs. As I recall, in Genesis
we are called to subdue the earth, for our day to day needs, and it is far human friendlier than it once was.
Hear! Hear! Kevin B.
And, larben, I appreciate your comments. Priests have a monumental job to do just reminding their flocks -- and the rest of the world -- that the Kingdom of G*d is, indeed, upon us and that we need to repent of our sins and love and serve the Lord and our brothers and sisters.
Me No Dhimmi: LOL!! I'm a Toronto motorist who would love to see a special purgatory -- or maybe Hell, but it IS Christmas, after all -- to which to relegate the I'm-special-no-need-to-observe-traffic-rules-OUTTA-MY-WAY! cyclists I encounter every minute of every day!
Posted by: batb at December 20, 2009 9:58 AMTo be fair and as others here have noted, his choice to go to Copenhagen was at least consistent with his environmental concerns (however errant they were). Also, there is nothing in the article to suggest that he was preaching AGW paganism from the pulpit.
Unlike this guy - who claims to be a Christian pastor yet has obviously never even opened a holy bible. If he had bothered to read even the first 2 chapters within the bible, he would have known not to make such a jackass statement;
Sanguin told the Georgi straight he got involved because humans are functioning “as though we’re the exceptional species that has a right to colonize the planet”.
http://www.straight.com:80/article-273131/vancouver/united-church-fasts-emissions-action
It is a wonder the the United Church of Canada ordained him at all, given that he isn't a lesbian.
Kate follows Ayn rand's "philosophy" which is specifically anti-God and which is specifically AGAINST the principles espoused by Jesus Christ.
It's nice to evidence here that you are all totally in accordance with her. Your delight in a human being's death and your presumption he 'got what he deserved' is obviously anti-Christian and anti-God.
You're all in a modern day death cult, which delights in depriving poor kids of health care, delights in the destuction of the earth, delights in war and torture and death.
All your elaborate arguments are mere justifications of that fact - your sick desire for violence and death. It's great to see it so proudly displayed.
Posted by: bleet at December 20, 2009 11:57 AMBleet - you need help. You're also projecting the values of your own kind in your diatribe above.
Depriving poor kids of healthcare? Check out the democrats, who want to remove $500B from Medicaid/Medicare to roll out their socialized healthcare scheme. Who do you think that will hurt?
Delights in war? Democratic presidents brought the US into WW I, WWII, Korea and Vietnam. Not that you should let anything like facts stand in the way of a good rant. Whereas it was a conservative Republican president who orchestrated the fall of communism in russia and the eastern bloc without firing a shot.
Delights in the destruction of the earth? Why, bleet, it's your far-left compatriots who are the worst polluters in the history of the earth: as witness china, and the entire eastern bloc before the fall of communism. Ironically, it is the capitalist societies you despise who have pioneered pollution reduction methods and equipment. Again, don't bother to fact check, just keep spewing your own verbal pollution.
Yours is the culture of control, government intrusion and denial of liberty. Conservatives just want to be left alone to live their lives without government interference; it is you and the left who delight in controlling the masses using fear, uncertainty & doubt with non-issues such as "man-made global warming", the "hole in the ozone layer", the "population bomb", and who knows how many countless others. Doubtless, the "acidification of the oceans" is next on the list, once the fraud of AGW has been accepted by an informed public, despite the best efforts of the leftish MSM to carry the water in this hoax.
How much blood is on the hands of the Left, bleet, with the banning of DDT? Tens of millions of Africans - the majority of them children - have died needlessly due to the banning of this lifesaving chemical. Another environmental fraud; one hopes there is a special Circle of Hell for Rachel Carson, who perpetrated the genocide. Yet its use is still strongly opposed by greenpeace, the WWF, Sierra Club, Earth First... and other "caring" left-wing "environmental" groups. Repugnant ooze, all of them.
It's not bleet's ignorance that is appalling; what is truly sickening is his proud ignorance of facts, the strutting self-righteousness and arrogance of his hypocrisy. Like most on the left, he could care less of the fallout from the countless "feel good" programs they have implemented, and leave to Conservatives and other grownups to fix. They just lurch onwards to the next self-proclaimed crisis, and chip away at more of our personal freedoms in the process. We're not to measure bleet and the left on results, but solely on their intentions. And on those, they fall abysmally short nearly 100% of the time.
mhb
Posted by: mhb at December 20, 2009 12:30 PMYay for batb and KevinB.
Posted by: Erik Larsen at December 20, 2009 2:10 PMUm - the guy wasn't Catholic. He was Church of England. Which is sort of different.
Posted by: Phil in Canada at December 20, 2009 4:36 PMI know I've annoyed many here with my posts that are pro-electric vehicles, but I defy anyone to point to a single one where I've suggested people be forced to use one.
~KevinB
Name one electric or hybrid production line vehicle that exists today that wasn't researched, promoted, and brought to production without using vast sums of taxpayer funds and then tell me that any of them would have even been designed in the first place without restrictive government guidelines on the automakers which were lobbied by the Leftist environmental movement.
The market for such vehicles only exists because of lies and coercion.
Posted by: Oz at December 20, 2009 6:05 PMI will not speak ill of the dead, especially if the dead was a man of the cloth. I will, however, say that now he must answer to God for what he did. God wanted us to be stewards of the earth, not pretend we are the Messiah.
Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at December 20, 2009 7:16 PMHey MHB
You keep on with your 'ideology' of sucking up to the rich and the megacorporations in hopes they'll throw you a crumb for your troubles.
After all, that's what Jesus preached - right?
Posted by: bleet at December 20, 2009 8:52 PMPhil - Who suggested that he was a Catholic. I said he might have been headed for Rome on his bike; jokingly. You've heard, surely, that Pope Benedict has invited Anglicans (including priests) to join with Catholics, and that they could keep their Book of Common Prayer (hopefully with Onward Christian Soldiers, reinstated) and many of their own liturgies etc., that comply with Catholic principles. I don't think he meant to include women priests and Bishops or their husbands or lesbian partners though. Or male homosexuals who are not celibate, or married.
Posted by: larben at December 20, 2009 10:16 PMlarben: "Perhaps he was on his way to Rome?" Great line.
bleet: "It's nice to evidence here that you are all totally in accordance with [Kate and her] delight in a human being's death ..."
Do you have a processing problem or are you just willfully ignorant?
Posted by: batb at December 20, 2009 10:37 PMI'll ignore your straw man argument for a minute, and ask you two simple questions, bleet:
Do you have a full-time job? If so, what type of employer do you work for? I don't care about names, I'm wondering about government job, public sector union, etc.
I'd bet my hat you work for the government, bleet; your entitlement mentality shines through most of your posts. That'd explain a great deal, including why you're jealous of anyone in the private sector working hard, advancing and making more dough than you could aspire to as a public sector wonk. It's hardly surprising, in this case, that you hold the private sector in such contempt, despite the fact that they pay your (likely overpaid) salary.
If you work for the private sector, then the entitlement mentality is a bit surprising. But perhaps not, if you're at the low end of the totem pole, and - again - look jealously upon those who have advanced beyond you, and have succeeded more than you. In either case, your postings have the unpleasant whiff of the politics of envy, as is common with the malcontents of the Left.
What you and the Leftrash never realize, bleet, is that we NEED those hated corporations and big business to finance your endless welfare and social programs. Without business, there's no corporate tax, no jobs... and no income tax. How are you gonna finance all your ineffective "feel good" programs without loot? The observation that "the best social program is a job" - made by the left's hated and mocked grade-B movie cowboy moron President, Ronald Regan - is more astute and applicable than ever. And this will probably surprise you, bleet, but you can find it in any Economics 101 course: you can't fund your pet projects when more and more people are working for the government. If you don't understand that, read some Henry Hazlett, Milton Friedman or Thomas Sowell and try to educate yourself.
Want to see cities where there is no business, bleet? Try Hamilton, Ontario; there has been industrial flight from high taxes and other government meddling, and it's not a pretty sight. Or detroit. New Orleans... the list goes on. Care to guess the common denominator in all of these, bleet? Nahh, you'd never do it: they've all been run by left or hard-left mayors and city councils for decades, and they're reaping what they've sown.
Business is GOOD, bleet. Big business is great, but it's on the decline. Most jobs are provided by small business, and they are hardest hit by all the leftwing taxation and money-grubbing schemes (cap/trade is the biggest threat), and endless government regulation and interference.
As to your straw man, bleet, the Bible tells us "The Lord helps those who help themselves", as well as "Render unto Caesar". While I believe in helping those who need assistance, and I do so, including volunteering in my community, I don't think G0d would support removing 50% or more of my income to spend on ineffective and often-corrupt social spending platforms, but then I'm not a theologian, so I'll pass on that debate.
But I will debate and object to you and your slobbering leftist hordes looking upon my earnings and private property as your birthright to confiscate and redistribute as you see fit. That's not "compassion", as you and your pals so self-righteously claim; it's legalized theft. There is no compassion in forced charity and redistribution of wealth; nor is there any virtue in Marxism, which goes hand-in-hand with the tax-and-redistribute/spend mentality of the Left.
mhb
Posted by: mhb at December 20, 2009 10:43 PMOz:
Name one electric or hybrid production line vehicle that exists today that wasn't researched, promoted, and brought to production without using vast sums of taxpayer funds
Can we start with BOTH e-bikes I purchased without a single cent of government support? $750 for one, $1200 for the other, all on my own dime, both because they made better economic sense.
Now, what were you saying, Oz-hole?
Posted by: KevinB at December 20, 2009 11:47 PMSo big business, multicorporations and the rich are the rulers of society, must never be held accountable for anything, and must be accomodated and kowtowed to endlessly, right, MHB?
See? I wrote in one sentence what took you several verbose paragraphs to communicate
Hey, it's fine for you if you want to spend your life sucking up to the rich and singing their praises endlessly, dude. Too much of a simpering slave mentality for me, though. Yech.
Are you employed, MHB? Seems like you gotta lotta time to write novella-sized comments on a post dedicated to laughing at the death of a human being. The amoral cruelty of you and your fellow jackals couldn't be a reflection of your Christ-denying positions in denying poor people health care, could it? Naw.....
Posted by: bleet at December 21, 2009 12:02 AMSo you're telling me that the technology in these bikes wasn't researched with taxpayer funds, not a dime of taxpayer funds were used to promote them at any time, and the factories that built them weren't brought to production when no market existed without using vast sums of taxpayer funds, is that right, KevinB?
Where did I say that the government gave you the money to purchase these bikes?
Can you quote me the line with time stamp, please?
Maybe you should apply for a government grant to take a reading comprehension course, KevinB, since you're so happy to have your environmental enthusiasm underwritten in the areas of R&D, promotion, production, and marketing.
Why don't you tell me the brand name of your "E"-bikes so I can check it out?
While you're at it, please tell me the part of Canada that you live in where owning such a bike is a good environmental decision because you can ride it all year round and you don't have to own a car which had an environmental impact to produce for you drive it when your bike can't do the job because of the weather.
I'd really like to meet you in person, KevinB.
We could have a real conversation.
I'm in the Calgary area.
Couldn't answer my question, eh, bleet? I'd say I hit the money with "public sector union remora". The entitlement mentality shines through every time. And yes, bleet: I've been employed for 23 years as a professional in the private sector; not a dime of public funding has gone into paying for my lifestyle, or my family's.
I'm finishing this thread, as one tires of casting pearls before swine. I'd say batb summed you up, nicely, bleet:
"Do you have a processing problem or are you just willfully ignorant?"
I'd say a bit of both is accurate.
mhb
"You're all in a modern day death cult, which delights in depriving poor kids of health care, delights in the destuction of the earth, delights in war and torture and death."
A tad melodramatic, don't you think?
By the way mhb ... excellent rebuttals to bleet's inane rants. Unfortunately, based on his replies, it's obvious that he struggled mightily, and failed, to understand your points. Your well-intentioned efforts would be akin to me explaining the workings of an internal combustion engine to the family Bichon. I could do my level best, but the only response would be a confused look and possibly, a bark.
Posted by: biffjr. at December 21, 2009 10:43 AMThanks biffjr.
Debating the left is mostly pointless, though; they are immune from discussing data and facts, and when confronted by same they almost universally retreat into ad hominems, slander and other nonsensical diversionary boilerplate.
Their mantra is "if you repeat the lie or delusion often enough, then it becomes true".
mhb
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