The one comment nailed it: add journalists to the list with lawyers and politicians. Personally, I hold lawyers and politicians in higher regard.

It looks like lawyers are being surpassed as the most parasitic profession hated by the public.

I wonder how much a Journalist makes? It seems like the payoff would have been much better with a little more effort by going to Law school.

It looks like lawyers are being surpassed as the most parasitic profession hated by the public.

I wonder how much a Journalist makes? It seems like the payoff would have been much better with a little more effort by going to Law school.

You can feel the love.

"It seems like the payoff would have been much better with a little more effort by going to Law school."

Yeah, I know that feeling, Knight. I quit journalism to go to law school. I figured I might as well get paid better for all the abuse.
Now I'm teaching, it's much safer, but I did get nailed with a rather sharp paper airplane once.

Liars by omission are the worst, followed closely by liars who just make stuff up, followed closely by inadvertent liars that do not fact check, followed by just plain liars.

I wish I'd bought the T-shirt:

"Journalist. Rope. Tree. Some assembly required."

Well darn. I thought I was linking to a story about something bad happening.
What's that old saying..I'd rather have a mother as a whore then a journalist?

I've said for years the only way to save the US is to hang all of the media first. Looks like my views aren't so out of the main stream.

"Freedom of the press requires you support it, not subvert it."

When your group works to subvert our freedoms (speech, guns, property rights, etc) don't be surprised if we wouldn't like to see you pay for it.

Well, I never met a journalist who couldn't lie.
Having said that, as long as we realize that
opinion is just opinion and reporting
is...well something different, we can sift
through the crap.

That's just it, melwilde, where the lying journalists win for their causes, political and otherwise, is many don't take the time to sift through their crap and they count on it.

There are ominous signs in Canada the people are not buying their crap full bore, we're onto them, they're becoming impotent, from the talking twits on TV to the scribes in the print media.

Remember when journalism was a respected profession?

Neither can I.

we're onto them

Is the decline in circulation case that we're on to them or a case that, after years of dumbing down the education system, there are millions of incurious people out there?

The incurious don't pay attention to news and current events and, with new technologies, they no longer need a paper to find out how the team did or which celeb is doing which other celeb.

If the media decided that as of Jan. 1, every article would be scrupulously researched and written, with fact and opinion clearly marked, it wouldn't make much difference. Their market has shrunk, most likely for years to come.

And, as the media championed the methods that caused that decline, there's not much to say other than 'tee hee'.

Journalism is not a profession. it displays none of the attributes associated with a profession. in fact it displays none of the attributes required for honest and honourable work. They are scum. Parasitic scum.

I think you are all being a bit harsh. Okay, I will give you the oversight of not investigating Obama's history and maybe not being diligent on the Global Warming thingy and just a little biased towards the left and...

Gobi Desert @ 7:48 has it.

Like I have always told my children,"better to be a street whore, than a journalist". These days it is better to be a climate whore like Algore, that is where the money is. When reporters are following a global warming Copenhagen story breathlesly, waiting for a leader to save the earth, in the middle of a blizzard, to get home before another blizzard, 68 of these morons is a small number for the real God to have offed. They should consider themselves lucky considering how stupid they are, like turkeys in a rainstorm.

Yawn. Wake me up when someone kills Green Helmet Guy.

gobi desert, LOL!

Just like the Eskimos -- excuse me, the Inuit -- have multiple words for snow, we now have multiple words for the lies journalists tell.

There are so many.

Hmmm,,Are we not subsidizing the CBC,the worst form of propaganda and BS i have ever seen or heard in my lifetime.How is it possible that this Canadian subsidized media is allowed to try and topple a duly elected government.And has been trying for nearly 4 years now.Isn't this called treason???And all these Toronto rags ,THE STAR,THE GLOBE & MAIL are they not being subsidized by someone.I have heard both are losing 100,s of millions of dollars and laying off staff and yet,they can't figure out why.IT,s your GD BIAS for the corrupt Liberal party you idiots.The people of Canada are honest people and we don't want liars and power hungry idiots in control of our country.So either start telling us truthful news or you will be out of business,its as simple as that.We can get the truth now with the truth machine.ITS CALLED THE INTERNET.So you idiot reporters better start changing careers,because we have been on to you for years now and you are no more than a laughing stock.We don't need any more laughs we have the Liberals entertaining us quite admirably with their scandal of the week.

Hide the decline! Hide the decline!

I suspect that the majority of posts in this part of the blogosphere, were one to trace them to their source, originate as a result of something published in the MSM and something written by a journalist.

It would be an interesting research project.

Any blogger up to doing it?

The beauty of today's world is we can now point to their lies, screw ups, laziness, obfuscation, cheerleading and bandwagon ignorance. That's due to the Catherine McMillans if the world and other sites such as hers.
Where would we be if this mess at East Anglia had not been uncovered? SDA, Climate Audit, WUWT and similar blogs carried the ball and will keep doing so, giving voice to people who really know what they're talking about without being filtered or ignored by the so called elite media.
Now we can hear directly from professionals who are interested in true science, not politicized ripoffs.
However, non of us can keep our guards down. We have to keep reminding our politicians that they will go the way of the MSM if they don't listen to the truth and act faithfully on our behalf.
We also have to remember there are a few honest ones out there like Lorrie Goldstein to mention but one.

typo
none not non

I'm not sure what the point of all this is really.

It would seem self-evident that being a journalist in a dangerous place is going to entail risks (whether from an intolerant regime, war, natural disasters, criminal elements and so forth).

Presumably people choose to be journalists and also choose what they're going to report on. If you become a war correspondent there's always the chance you'll run into an IED; if you investigate organized crime, it's possible you'll end up sleeping with the fishes; if you upset the regime of Generalissimo Mugumbo, you might have an "accident" while being held by "security" at the airport.

I couldn't help but notice that the article refers to one journalist being killed in a place called "Israel and the Palestinian Territories".

Has AP already adopted some sort of one-state solution on its own? Whatever, it's a somewhat revealing choice of terminology.

The first thing that came to mind when I read that piece was ... who are these people who are killing the journos?

Well, the answer is the very people who the idiots are lionizing at the expense of our own nations. institutions and peoples.

The terrorist Islamist scum, the leftist thugs and scum, the criminal scumbags. All the scum of the earth who we hear from the MSM on a daily basis are nothing more than the righteous freedom loving warriors against the evil of our nations.

And the joke in all this is that the murdering scumbags often think they are striking a blow against us by killing their best messengers and cheerleaders. The same cheerleading fools who would try their best to blame it all on America and claim that the biggest threat to democracy is the average US citizen.

The comments on the Reuters site are telling.

what hath Duranty wrought ?

Journalism is not a profession. it displays none of the attributes associated with a profession. in fact it displays none of the attributes required for honest and honourable work. They are scum. Parasitic scum.

Posted by: Chris at 9:58 AM

for a moment I thought you were talking about climate "scientists"

to be honest though, to get unbiased reporting you would need a reporter with a much higher intellect than what we have today, and they just don't make shoes that large:-))))

from CTVtass story on more mass graves.

came symbolize the cruelty ???
no outrage , not even feigned?

Baghdad's attacks -- including the use of poison gas in the Kurdish town of Halabja -- came to symbolize the cruelty of Saddam's grip on power and brought the nickname "Chemical Ali" to one of the masterminds, Saddam's cousin Ali Hassan al-Majid.

Another small point. Take away that massacre in the Philippines (31 killed), and the total is down to 37, a drop from the previous year and nowhere near the record. Somalia ends up in first place with 9, Pak and Iraq with 4, Russia with 3.

And zero for Afghanistan. Are they being careful, lucky, or are they just so thin on the ground that their chances of getting hurt are negligible?

Dated a newly minted "journalist". Like her classmates, her parents were well of enough to send her to get a university indoctrination so... "journalist" was her first job. Telling us what to think about the world as a FRIST JOB!

At school they were taught "journalistic ethics" which I will sum up:

1) Don't make stuff up.
2) Ignore any fact which refutes YOUR message.

Cheers, G.

Another point from my perspective:

The article manages to Suggest Blame on the US for the 67 deaths in Iraq-07 and makes NO mention of the Islamist Thugs who did all the killing in the Phillipines.

These people are incapable of honest or intelligent reporting.

Well Canadian journoes won't worry they are too chicken to go into hostile/friendly territorey. Too busy crapping on the government.

Colin from Mission B.C. @2:26 - "...add journalists to the list with lawyers and politicians. Personally, I hold lawyers and politicias in higher regard."

To quote Woody Allen in Annie Hall, that would be one notch underneath child molester?

Sounds like Michael Mann finally has some uncooked data that will fit his hockey stick graph. Turns out the problem is global warring.

I am breathing a little easier today - carbon dioxide and all :)

Let's juxtapose:

All sorts of outrage over a photoshopped picture of Harper as Lee Harvey Oswald, despite the fact that this picture wasn't a call for assassination, no one was hurt, and an apology was given.

vs.

Cheering the deaths of human beings. And hoping for more of the same.

Just another example of the morale hypocrisy of the Right.

I might feel sorry for journalists in Russia. The Western world, not so much. As William Tecumseh Sherman said if journalists were shot before sunrise, there would be news from hell by breakfast.

Hey, don't knock journalists. Their college major allowed them to drink lots of booze, study minimally, and still graduate with decent grades. I followed the same strategy by majoring in Psychology back in the day.

Cheering the deaths of human beings. And hoping for more of the same.

Just another example of the morale hypocrisy of the Right.

=====================================

ulianov

if in the future people die because of bad political choices that are aided and abetted by MSM misreporting, then these people, jurnos, will be complicit in these deaths, the MSM should report unbiased facts, not engage in social engineering

Yes to all of the above.

GYM @ 3:13 thats telling him.

Ulianov ..... your moral superiority is paper thin.

Lover of mass murderers.
Cheerleader for thugs and frauds.
Defender of fools and charlatains.

Begone ... cretin.

GYM ... people already have died in the thousands because of the frauds in the media.

I would agree with most of the comments with reference to newspapers and the TV stations - but I am very pleased with the journalism of Maclean's magazine - especially the columnists - very witty, LOL funny and the magazine has fought the good fight against the Human Wrongs Commissions.

ulianov:

I don't think anyone here is celebrating the death of any journalist, or ever has.

For you to take 10 anonymous comments on a Reuters thread and project that somehow to anybody at all is an incredible act of intellectual dishonesty. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Wow! Another thread which is nothing more than a running sore of festering homicidal hatred.

Really - what's wrong with you people?

Are you beyond shame?

Let's face it folks...when the MSM went from reporting the story to becoming a part of the story, they lost any shred of legitimacy that they may of once had. Now "reporting" is more often than not some talking head expousing his/her opinions and not the facts. In my books, this is editorializing and not reporting. Agreed?

[quote]Just another example of the morale hypocrisy of the Right.[/quote]ulianov

It is rumored that a strain of genital warts was introduced, by an African Journalist/activist, to the socialist worm holes in Copenhagen.

That is one EU socialist gift that will keep gifting… even better than branding!

Only 10 comments. DO you think they closed comments?

Bleet, it's called schadendfreude. Dark pleasure at someonesle's misfortune.

Good grief. Ulianov and Bleet just climbed out of the dank, dark hole where the rest of them are still sucking their thumbs and patting themselves on the back making sanctimonious, holier than thou noises. Please encourage them to return whence they came. In other words, don't feed the trolls.

Duranty and the Webbs during the communist show trials and planned starvation of millions "You wanna make an omelette, you gotta break a few eggs."

Hmm..., some journalists do a good job but they are in minority.
Some, particularly in MSM, are moonlighting as a spokespersons for various think-tanks. So it is no wonder that the quality of journalism went down through the floor.

"The relationship between reporters and think-tanks, at least in the national-security arena, is starting to shift. Think tanks are starting to become full-time patrons of the news business, and they are bankrolling book projects, blogs and even war reporting.
The Center for a New American Security, for instance, has funded a string of first-rate defense reporters through its Writers in Residence Program. The latest launch: The Fourth Star, by Washington Post reporter Greg Jaffe and former New York Times reporter David Cloud. CNAS also signed up New York Times reporters Thom Shanker and Eric Schmitt to work on a joint book project, titled Counterstrike. Longtime Post reporter Tom Ricks, who published The Gamble this year, is a senior fellow at CNAS. ...."
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/

ulianov @2:22 - wanna be morally superior? Try not calling yourself ulianov.

there was an article in the latest or recent Harpers about the closing of newspapers in the USA, focusing on a couple in San Francisco. apparently publishing in the old days was a very personal thing.

then the internet came out of the need for robust dynamic path digital communication and now look at the results.

uh, dear louise, 'dont feed the trolls' is such an old cliche in the digital era of which I speak. the fact is kate mcmillan and others ARE gloating over the death of journalists. you people are so ingrained with that mindset it's a 'forest .... trees' thing why not come up with a new admonishment?

uli, baby:

I'd have so much more respect for you if you knew the difference between "moral" and "morale". The evident fact that you don't is proof enough to me that your education and knowledge are limited, and that your judgements are therefore suspect.

Just sayin'.

Geez, the linked comments and the ones here are pretty damn crass. People, remember than not all journalists around the world are lefty fellow travellers like the N.American-Euro bozos who see their jobs as crusading for the left and hobnobbing with the elites. Pollyanna-ish as it sounds, a lot still believe that their job entails spreading truth, exposing lies, and those are the ones who are most likely to end up paying with their lives. Nobody is overly interested in killing a careerist ass-kisser, after all, and press-release rewriters aren't likely to risk mussing their loafers by getting too close to hot spots.

There are None so Blind as those who depend on the MSM as their seeing eye dog.

Oz:

I'll ask again, what percentage of bloggers' posts originate with work out of the MSM? And what would they post if not for the work of the journalists they so revile?

The MSM provides a valuable service. BECAUSE of their obvious bias, they give us a sideshow hall of mirrors that intelligent people can use to start to get close to understanding what is REALLY happening in the world.

Let's not work too hard to kill off the MSM. I think they're needed.

Dudley ... you're absolutely right.

Except for the track record of the local stringers who seem to be the most common targets in these rat infested regions.

Now go back and read the Reuter's article paying attention to the allusions of the author, the deliberate misrepresentation and the factual errors mad in it.

Do that and you will see why they get no respect.

Oz:
I'll ask again, what percentage of bloggers' posts originate with work out of the MSM? And what would they post if not for the work of the journalists they so revile?
The MSM provides a valuable service. BECAUSE of their obvious bias, they give us a sideshow hall of mirrors that intelligent people can use to start to get close to understanding what is REALLY happening in the world.
~djb

Well, djb, we aren't "working to kill off the MSM".
They're committing suicide, remember?

Just off the top of my head the important stories they have boycotted, at least as long as they could get away with it:

-The 2006 Car-B-Qs in Paris, I watched blog coverage showing unidentified(Muslim) "youths burning up to 2000 cars in Paris and the surrounding area every single night for 2 WEEKS until it caused so much political trouble in France that the MSM finally had some very biased short coverage of it

-The non-coverage of the FACT that the housing bubble was caused by Democrat policies started by President Carter, expanded by President Clinton, and spearheaded by Community organizer Barack Obama who brought lawsuits against CitiCorp accusing them of racial bias in their lending practises

-The non-coverage of WHO Barack Obama really was, beginning with his bid for the Democratic candidacy leading up to the 2008 U.S. Presidential election

-The 20 year long misinformation propaganda campaign since the meeting in Kyoto which led to the Kyoto Protocols regarding CO2 and Global Warming

-The MSM boycott regarding the East Anglia CRU whistleblower leak

I could go on for hours: Bottom line, the MSM does more damage then their entertainment value as Blog Fodder warrants on issues that are more important than to be simply regarded as entertainment.

Saying that the Blogs would have nothing to discuss or cover without the MSM is a misunderstanding on your part.
That misunderstanding is fostered by the fact that Blogs such as SDA spend so much time correcting the gross errors and lies by the MSM, but blogs and bloggers have shown that not only can they generate their own issues, but that they will never run out of issues to argue against our counterparts on the Left blogosphere side of the political spectrum.

If the MSM disappeared, all of us would be better off, including the commie journalists who work for the MSM who would finally be able to get the therapy they so clearly need.

blackmambe:

I like the name ulianov bacause it pisses off morally hypocritical right wingers (like you).

kevinb:

moral: (adj) concerning or based on principals of right or wrong behaviour.

morale: (n)the condition of courage, determination, and pride in the mind(s) of a person, team, army, etc.

BTW, you're a retard.

Ulianov, you named yourself after a spoiled bourgeois hypocrite who died of syphillis. Don't pat yourself on the back.

Oh dear, I could have just named myself Franz Schubert or Niccolò Paganini if it's syphillis that offends you so much.

uli, you fool, I am a "morale-y hypocritical right winger". Do try to keep up with your own bollux, schickelgruber.

OMMAG, you miss my point. Sure, that article was tainted by standard armchair leftist bias (no mention of Islam related to the killings in the Philippines; crap talk about the "Palestinain Territories"). That changes nothing about what I said, that the majority of journalists don't deserve the contempt that we rightly heap upon their lazy, careerist, biased North American Scum compatriots.

I think we're on the same side, but talking past each other on this issue.

I'm trying to remember how many died as a result of one made up story about a Koran being dropped in a toilet. Seventy or more?