"Pleasing your enemies does not turn them into friends."

as I read that I thought

" and showing facts to liberals does not turn them into reasonable people "

rumour's of deal in hopenhogen to make Barry look good, 100 billion price tag. made at 1:30 a.m.

Matt Drudge must kill himself laughing while sifting through 'news' events, judging by his headlines today. He has a delicious sense of the absurd.

On SDA late nite radio we have some serious guitar warming happenin". Who needs Copenhagen? Thanks Vitruvius.

Just searched "climategate" on both google and Bing.....

Google has it come up in the help thingy but now only has 4 million used to have more....

Bing it does not come up the help thingy. Even though it has 50 plus million....

just saying

***Warming shocking content!!!***

Anyone heard about this?

http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/17/fistgate-x-kevin-jennings-suggested-reading-for-kids-included-sick-book-that-romanticized-rape-of-a-13-year-old-media-silent-2/

Obama has chosen as the "safe school Czar" a sick pervert that encourages the reading of books by teens about rape being a good thing, fisting being a good thing, public bathroom anal sex between teens and adults being a good thing and many other weird sick stuff that 13 years old should not read about.

Obama ; yes we can; we can teach fisting to your kids.

sorry for the use of shocking terms but I'm not into white washing.

http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/17/fistgate-x-kevin-jennings-suggested-reading-for-kids-included-sick-book-that-romanticized-rape-of-a-13-year-old-media-silent-2/

This is beyond scandalous,

Obama is working to destroy western civilization by a thousand cuts.

He is the weirdest president ever.

Fisting for 13 year olds...Words escape me.

File under humour. From our "public" broadcaster, the network that ignored Climategate for 10 days and continues to under report its importance, a viewer question is read by Mansbridge on tonight's "At Issue" panel, asking if Harper is trying to control the media and if he'll be hurt by it; Hebert, Coyne, Gregg and Murphy all agreed he is and will be.

Thanks for the guitar serenade Vitruvius. Needed it after reading the previous thread about Lord Moncton being manhandled. Copenhagen may turn out to be a battle for freedom on the scale of the turning point Battle of Britain or Stalingrad and at the moment it does not look good for freedom.

Jon, that's hilarious! What hypocrites!!!

Further to the humour front, The Fraser Institute has done a superb job creating this video. You all will LOVE it!!!

Globe and Mail, Thursday, Lawrence Martin. Title: "Democracy Canadian-style: How do you like it so far?"

He describes ways in which he claims Stephen Harper is subverting democracy. An excerpt: "There are a variety of such ways. One is to limit the voice of the bureaucracy, the public service, making it more submissive and partisan. Ditto the foreign service. As well, you want to dispense with agency or commission heads who don't follow your thinking. If some agencies get particularly meddlesome, such as Elections Canada, take them to court."

Isn't the civil service supposed to carry out government policy and not express political opinions of its own? Surely a rogue bureaucracy that ignored government policy would be a genuine threat to democracy.

He also thinks the "grassroots" should have some kind of say in the political action. But wasn't Preston Manning pilloried when that was part of his platform - by columnists like Martin?

The word "democracy" refers to the election of a government, not to what the government does once it's in office. The Harper government was duly elected, as were the Chretien majorities which prompted a book entitled The Friendly Dictatorship - that being merely a metaphor and not an accurate description of the state of affairs.

By all means, criticize the government if you don't like what it's doing. But leave the claims of a dearth of "democracy" for the real thing, like the "people's republics".

An Ontario judge has been rebuked by the Court of Appeal for expressing a political opinion during his disposition of a case in 2008. The judge opined that harsh sentences for marijuana offences would not have any effect on the use and production of the narcotic.

I would just like to point out that if you read Supreme Court of Canada decisions, you will find political opinions all over the place. Any judgment that refers to "social justice", for example.

Turns out The Fraser Institute has released a companion video too.

Lawrence Martin says: "He also thinks the "grassroots" should have some kind of say in the political action". Would this be like a "people's assembly?

Re: You tube performance.

Good stuff Mr. "V"

Am deeply disapointed in Sask. Party scrapping the proposed nuclear plant. "Pleasing your enemies .........."

On a similar note, there was an important article entitled "Stephen Harper's robed opposition" in the Thursday National Post on the editorial page. It deals with judges "fighting back" against laws they don't like (commenter 'maz2' mentioned it in yesterday's Reader Tips).

A charity named Christian Horizons is in court in Ontario attempting to overturn a "human rights" tribunal ruling that objected to its firing of an employee who entered into a lesbian relationship, contrary to a statement of faith its employees were required to sign upon being hired. The provincial "human rights" code has a clause that allows discrimination in the case of organizations engaged in work with a religious purpose, but the tribunal argued that the work involved here, general elder care and the like, did not specifically involve recipients of any particular religion, and thus the exemption should not apply.

The only genuine human right involved here is freedom of association - and the charity no longer wishes to associate with its employee. Sadly, one of the most ignorant statements ever to come from the Supreme Court of Canada said that "the right to freedom of association does not include the right not to associate". This drivel would throw all the laws against stalking out the window, for starters.

The Christian Horizons case is similar to the infamous Vriend, which went to the Supreme Court in 1998. There, the court "read in" sexual orientation into the Alberta Human Rights Code, as the case had been pursued on some notion of "gay rights". In reality, it was about wrongful dismissal - as is this one here. It is generally known that an employee can be fired for almost any reason whatsoever, but the employer has to pay proper severance under the labour laws. That is the proper issue, not a phony conception of "human rights".

If you'd like to see an up & coming Poster Girl for the Liberal Elitist Party of Canada, watch this and move the slider to 5:35.

They're talking about injuries in hockey. This twit, Marianne Meed Ward, says:

"I don't like hockey. When my brother - and this is the closest I've ever got to a hockey arena - is watching my brother's hockey games ... my mother wouldn't let him play in a contact league."

Yes, this is just a silly little example. But elitists like her, who seem to share none of the same experiences and values of the great unwashed, get into power and then impose their values on the population because "they know better". This happens time & time again and we constantly let them get away with it!

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"They sent the letter to Carolyn Bennett, a Liberal MP and physician who they
knew once cared for one of the sisters' relatives. It impressed the MP."

“'I frankly didn't know about international orgasm day',” says Dr. Bennett.

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BREAKING NEWS: Sydney Morning Herald reports 11th hour Copenhagen deal forged

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/17/breaking-news-sydney-morning-herald-reports-11th-hour-copenhagen-deal-forged/#more-14281

neo, I was just reading that Globe and Mail article. Perhaps Copenhagen would be the proper setting for a demonstration, led by Carolyn Bennett, for International Orgasm Day, culminating in eco friendly fireworks?

National Post, Wednesday. Barbara Kay discusses a Quebec school course named Ethique et Culture Religieuse, abbreviated ECR, that is compulsory for all students, including the home-schooled.(!)

She says that two values dominate the program's objectives: learning to live together, and the common good. This is accomplished by inculcating (according to ECR mandarin Georges Leroux) "absolute respect for every religious position".

This of course is "social engineering". No one has to have respect for another person's religious position. What you have to respect is that person's right to hold it, and to express it. That is part of what the right to freedom of religion means. Furthermore, "the common good" is a famously vague and dubious phrase that subordinates the individual to the group, which is immoral. "Learning to live together" is also vague, but respecting others' rights is a big part of it.

Kay says the ECR scheme is not supposed to convey knowledge; it may make suggestions, but never impose, and always rely on "dialogue". Quote: "But if, according to an editing team spokesman, the dialogue does not follow a politically correct script - that is, if students of independent mind or critical point of view diverge in behaviour or words from the prescribed 'recognition' mantra: all cultural traditions are equal; all beliefs are good - 'The teacher must intervene immediately to stop it on the spot. Any attack in class on the dignity of the person or the common good must be immediately denounced, because it is not tolerated in our society. In that [respect], the program ... is not neutral'."

Kay points to a new "bombshell" study regarding the course, from a PhD candidate named Joelle Guerin, that concludes the course is a form of indoctrination. She also says that many parents are demanding exemptions from ECR, if not its outright abolition. One can understand why.

I suspect that the real goal of public education has always been indoctrination. Maybe we should find a way to replace that, in its entirety. A voucher system would be a step in the right direction.

So this is the NWO deal.A Copenhagen agreement with lots of plans for the 'wealthy' nations.
No mention of Canada in this report.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/climate-draft-accord-agreed-20091218-l1jo.html
Perhaps similar to the link at WUWT.

On Rob Breakenridge's show radio show this evening I learned of David Suzuki comparing AGW to Slavery. It was a bit hard to find the video (and the National Post linked the wrong one) but I did finally find it and posted it here.

P.S. When I posted the Suzuki link on Facebook the captcha word verification displayed these two words:

Socialists Resubmit

I kid you not!

Mark Levine is pretty good today. All he's talking about has already here.
He almost seems naive about just how bad Government care is.
Me I would rather owe money than haver to die because I don't fit the triage category.

http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930#

http://www.breitbart.tv/jesse-venturas-conspiracy-theory-takes-on-the-global-warming-scam/

Lots about unca Mo in China on this excellent video. It is easy to watch and understand; should be shown in every classroom in every free nation. Even the most brain dead M.P. (I sent it to my Liberano!) can grasp the damning footprints of 'the money and the power'. There is an all out global war against our PM right now. I pray for him.

I watched the interview with the fruitfly, Robert W. Did you notice his animation and frantic whiplash movements (does he know how to wield a bull whip? Who would have guessed??)when he flew off his nut and compared Canada's refusal to be the whipping boy for the world with slavery? HE is the one pumping for world slavery - and from his body language, he is relishing the thought of being the lash wielding enforcer.

rumour's of deal in hopenhogen to make Barry look good, 100 billion price tag. made at 1:30 a.m.

Was there any doubt that the Empty Suit would support his buddies Chavez/Mugabe?

It's like the theatre being played out about the US Health Bill. Does anyone think they're not going to pass it?

I watched the interview with the fruitfly, Robert W. Did you notice his animation and frantic whiplash movements (does he know how to wield a bull whip? Who would have guessed??)when he flew off his nut and compared Canada's refusal to be the whipping boy for the world with slavery? HE is the one pumping for world slavery - and from his body language, he is relishing the thought of being the lash wielding enforcer.

nv53: "He [Lawrence Martin] also thinks the 'grassroots' should have some kind of say in the political action."

EXCUSE ME? Isn't that called elections?

Lawrence Martin, who looks more reptilian every passing day (much like Trudeau, Mo Strong, and co.), is a chronically Conservative-challenged journalist. Everything he writes needs to be taken with a grain of salt, given his rather nasty partisan bias. He's one of the reasons I no longer pay much attention to the print media. I certainly don't subscribe to any newspapers, like I used to.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/091217/canada/canada_saskatchewan_sk_gang_colours_law_charter

nuttiness abounds west of manitoba.

we know how to deal with gangs in ontario. a local city councilor is gaining a reputation for arranging the demolition of crack houses and most recently saw an Outlaws club house flattened.

Left-liberal-socialism's compassion.
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“MP calls for regulation of sex toy industry

A Toronto Liberal MP is calling on the federal health minister to take steps to regulate the adult sex toy industry in Canada. Carolyn Bennett sent a letter to Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq this week saying that chemicals used in most sex toys pose a potential health risk for women.”

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20091218/bc_sex_toy_regulation_091217/20091218/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome
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Left-liberal-socialism’s compassion: Double-dipping.

Build a food bank; they will come to it.
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“Thieves Target Riceville Food Bank

The Riceville Food Bank is appealing for donations after thieves stole Christmas hampers filled with food, turkeys and toys.”

http://www.cfra.com/

Robert W - Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa - which translates to: me a cowboy, me a cowboy, me a Mexican cowboy! Good on the Fraser Institute; they can always be counted on to cut through the b.s.

'Urgent need' to regulate sex toys, MP says

Carolyn Bennett writes Canada's Health Minister asking her to look into the materials used to make vibrators and other adult items.

Calling Ms. May....Elizabeth....

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Green+vibrators+promise+truly+sustainable+pleasure/2356062/story.html

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2009/Launch_Feedback

Bets accepted on how long the following will last:

"Wikipedia, where facts don't matter. Wikipedia, which everyone can edit but no one can

Re Jimmy's personal appeal. You know, Jimmy, if Wiki was not such an activist nest, I would have donated. But alas, it is the place where facts don't matter and if an activist decides, no one can edit. Is that what you wanted? Did you want a propaganda piece where unemployed 'volunteers' issue verdicts from their mom's basements? Where a Ph. D. cannot add information because a school dropout decided it was not suitable? Dude, the sane people of the world laugh at Wikipedia and forbid their children to use it. It is doing nothing but damage, except for a handful of articles created and maintained by subject matter experts in case your 'volunteer wikipedian' thugs are so clueless that they are simply unable to screw up the contents. Wikipedia is the place where scientific facts can only be published if they were previously published in a media approved by (see above) the unemployed school dropouts. But it's a cash cow for a whole bunch of people, so it's Ok to misinform the young generation."

Sharon Weinberger, The Pentagon Launches Plan to Master Lightning

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, the R&D arm of the Pentagon, has embarked on a project called NIMBUS, which seeks to understand the underlying mechanisms of lightning. "Although significant progress has been made in recent years in our understanding of the lightning discharge and related phenomena, fundamental questions remain unanswered," the agency said in an announcement released today.

Lightning has long perplexed scientists. Not only are atmospheric scientists unsure of exactly what initiates lightning, but they also don't understand precisely how and why it is able to propagate over great distances, and where it will strike. That makes it, in DARPA's view, "one of the major unsolved mysteries in the atmospheric sciences."...

Taber: a writer ahead of her time.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/bureau-blog/the-most-irritating-politicians-of-2009/article1404212/

Since when are Rick Hilliar,and Enviromental Protesters politicians? When did they run for office.

Im surprised she forgot to snipe at the PM,no cofee I guess. I know, she doesn't read what she writes...ever.

For the "Not Waiting for the Asteroid" file, an email to the globeandmail.com editor regarding their tremendously misleading front page. Also, I noted after I sent this email the picture was changed to a picture of Chinese officials and labelled "chinanew1500"... I suspect I was not the only complainant.

"Dear Mr. Yum,

This email is to complain about the misleading nature of the leading story on globeandmail.com this morning. The headline for the article was titled "U.S., China take ‘step forward' on climate pact ". The article was a description of information received by Eric Reguly and Shawn McCarthy from unnamed sources in President Obama's administration about possible compromises between the United States and China possibly leading to an agreement on aid for third world countries in exchange for independent verification of carbon emissions.

The photograph above was the one that is attached to this email, entitled chinaclimate1500_392283gm-a.jpg. As you can see from the photo it shows what appears to be a smog covered urban setting. The obvious implication of the photograph is that climate change is linked to smog. As any one who has paid any attention to the climate change issue will be aware, carbon is not smog as it is a colourless, odourless naturally occurring substance. Smog of the type that is depicted in the photo is mostly particulates from burning coal and possibly nitrous oxide or some manner of sulphur product.

This kind of misleading presentation only serves to further undermine the reporting on this important issue and degrade the faith placed in journalists generally.

Yours Truly,
Brent Robinson

Calgary, Alberta"

Great selection Vitruvious!

But I gotta tell you Paco De Lucia outclassed them all. I might be biased, but playing with a pick just doesn't give you the control and complexity that 4 fingers do.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/copenhagen/story.html?id=2356558

Canada branded 'Colossal Fossil' at climate talks

Best news I read all day...

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”

Tsktsk .... MSM's headline forgot to interpolate Librano$ Liberal Ad$Cam Chretien before "PM's documents".

Acronym SCC = Supreme Court of Canada.

When will Liberal Chretien appear?
1. Never.
2. Never.
3. After his date at the PET Cemetery.
3. All of the above.
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"SCC will hear case over public access to PM's documents"

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091218/PM_documents_091218/20091218?hub=Canada

Jema54, great link !!

http://www.breitbart.tv/jesse-venturas-conspiracy-theory-takes-on-the-global-warming-scam/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D51xjrvr4bM

Jessie Ventura is on to Maurice Strong. BIG TIME !!

It would be amazing, if a former wrestler from Minnesota was destined to be the person in this world who takes down the most dangerous man in the world !!
And he grew up in Ventura's back yard - Oak Lake Manitoba.

Jessie Ventura strong-arms Strong into submission ? - while Canada's media has been the enabler for two decades. Enabler for the 'biggest fraud the world has ever seen'. Enabler by it's refusal to cover the story.

One might think there is a connection somehow - a connection between Maurice Strong and the Liberal Party of Canada.

ron in kelowna

The problem with having Ventura as the warming denial spokesperson is that he's a conspiracy addict who believes 911 was an inside job.It would be nice to see the light shone on Strong but I don't think it would be very difficult to discredit Ventura.

Write Jason Kenney an angry note: Aussies pressuring Canada into accepting more LTTE operatives and providing them with welfare:

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=2355038

h.ryan - I am beginning to believe that the Demos are determined to destroy the Republic of USA. It does not defy my imagination to think that some of those radicals were in on the mass murder at the twin towers. People involved in the Climate hoax do not seem ruffled by imposing mass starvation and killing babies; they would not be concerned about a few souls in high rise buildings if it furthered their evil agendas. The 911 truthers have focused on the President GW Bush and the men/women in his cabinet; maybe the 'truthers' have been barking up the wrong tree, they should have been looking left, perhaps.

I would love to see Ventura "strong arm" (beat to a bleeding pulp!) evil, human hater Strong, ron in kelowna. I did not know that they were geographically so closely connected.

'Loved those youtube videos with Jesse Ventura on Mo Strong, jema54!

I only wish the footage -- absolutely truthful about Mo Strong's shady UN past and murky, one-world-government present -- wasn't appearing on a show called "Conspiracy Theory," with Jesse sounding like a Deep Throat operative, down to the distorted voice.

But, I give Jesse Ventura full marks for taking on Mo Strong. Strong must be feared by most of the media, as he's got a spectacular pass from them for years.

"Follow the money" is absolutely how you make sense of any scandal -- and when you follow the money through Mo Strong to the UN, to the Rothchilds, to Climategate, etc., etc., the Euro, AGW, and One-world government start to make sense.

'Not the kind of sense that gives one confidence, but the kind of sense that should be motivating us to push back, to stand up and be counted, to say "Hell no, Mo!"

"Hell no, Mo!" I like the soumd of that, Batb!