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December 12, 2009

I Can See Romulus From My House

Posted by Kate at December 12, 2009 11:20 AM
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She is obviously very unpopular with the crowd.

/sarc off.


Classic ma'am!

Posted by: AtlanticJim at December 12, 2009 11:34 AM

I woulda paid real money to see that live.


Garth

Posted by: Garth Wood at December 12, 2009 11:40 AM

Chris Matthews..."Someone wrote those lines for her". /s

Posted by: RFC at December 12, 2009 11:49 AM

She's the next one.

Posted by: bob at December 12, 2009 11:51 AM

What a lady. Mothers, this is the role model you want your girls to aspire to. The left doesn't know what they're missing.

Posted by: Mr. X. at December 12, 2009 11:52 AM

I guess there is no law against the future POTUS being drop-dead gorgeous.

Posted by: Mike Kelley at December 12, 2009 11:55 AM

Next president

Posted by: RW at December 12, 2009 11:55 AM

Was Shatner reading from her book prior to this?

Posted by: Daryl at December 12, 2009 12:07 PM

I heart Sarah Palin!

Posted by: Soccermom at December 12, 2009 12:09 PM

Shatner was doing the same thing previous to this.

He is starting to look like his counterpart who came from NY, Jerome Howard.

Posted by: cal2 at December 12, 2009 12:14 PM

never mind - just watched the whole segment. That was pretty dang good.

Posted by: Daryl at December 12, 2009 12:14 PM

That Sarah Palin! What a gal!

'Such a good sport, so natural, so spunky, so not intimidated by asshats, not to mention drop-dead gorgeous, not to mention all the right values: pro-life, pro-family, pro-women as opposed to feminists, pro-kids, pro-guys, pro-all the things that will ensure the continuation of homo sapiens on earth with compassion and common sense.

If I was American, I'd vote for her for POTUS. Go, Sarah!

I heart her, too, Soccermom!

Posted by: batb at December 12, 2009 12:34 PM

That was great!
Such class from Sarah Palin, as per usual.

Heh, that odd looking skinny guy was looking a bit bewildered there for a sec, no?

Go Sarah go, the left are so afraid of you.

Posted by: ldd at December 12, 2009 12:46 PM

Greetings SDA. Love the vid. Where did Sarah Palin come from out of the slime of politics down here - she is a woman of integrity, intelligence and grit. See my comparison between Obama and Palin and what is allowed to each:

http://samandimp.wordpress.com
"About Misspeaking - War on Sarah's Words."

Posted by: SamHenry at December 12, 2009 12:52 PM

I don't think Diane Francis would approve of Sarah, what with Sarah having more than one kid and all.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at December 12, 2009 1:02 PM

I Can See Romulus From My House

How about "I can see the Russian Embassy From My Hotel Room"?

The left will never love Governor Palin the way they fawn over Obama. However, the left is beginning to wake up to the idea that Mrs. Palin is very witty and has begun to understand her personal charisma is one of the reasons why she was and is so popular in Alaska.

Last Saturday, December 5, Palin spoke to a group of very leftist journalists at the Gridiron Club in Washington. Apparently, even they found it hilarious. The entire text is here:

http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/3888/87/

Posted by: Brent Weston at December 12, 2009 1:05 PM

Mr.X @ 11:52 am, I'd say the Left does know what they're missing and their jealousy is palpable.

Posted by: Liz J at December 12, 2009 1:05 PM

Palin's scheduled appearance at a hospital fundraiser in Hamilton is already making leftard heads pop. They think because there is a dipper MP (damn!) in the area she shouldn't be allowed to speak because "we" are a social democratic community.
Meanwhile $200 dinner tickets are already moving briskly.

Posted by: hudson duster at December 12, 2009 1:14 PM

Funny...Letterman continues to slam her so she makes an appearance on Conan's show...I wouldn't be surprised if she turned up there again.

Posted by: northbaytrapper at December 12, 2009 1:38 PM

Ken (Kulak)

So typical of a lefty, she has two children, wonder which one she'd choose to do without?
My take on this ignorance from her is that one of them is not living up to her expectations.

Posted by: ldd at December 12, 2009 2:01 PM

William Shatner is from Montreal and Sarah Palin is from Alaska, the freak state given its proximity to Canada. William Riker, commander of the Enterprise, is also from Alaska. Coincidence? I think not.
It's good to see people are being good sports about this, though William Shatner appeared nervous- a little- "Amok Time" nervous.

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at December 12, 2009 2:17 PM

Kinda looked like Shatner was lookin at a real Romulan from the expression on his face!

Posted by: Orlin Bowman at December 12, 2009 2:19 PM

Did anyone else know that Bill has a thing for elephants?

Posted by: Joe at December 12, 2009 2:38 PM

Watch how cbc covered this story.They simply show the clip oh Sarah doing her very cute response..they had NO mention of why she was there,just left the viewer thinking that she just came on out of the blue to mock Shatner.Fair and balanced cbc!

Posted by: Sammy at December 12, 2009 2:42 PM

Great spot for Palin. I love the way the left despises her. People clearly respond to her. I like her too.

But none of that means that I want to see her as President; and I don't think she will get there anyway. Comparisons with Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher (especially Margaret Thatcher) are misguided and wishful thinking.

Posted by: mj at December 12, 2009 2:49 PM

A clue about the left: Hate = Fear

The more the left hates someone, it is actually fear.

Posted by: rmgk at December 12, 2009 2:59 PM

Comparisons with Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher (especially Margaret Thatcher) are misguided and wishful thinking.

... speaking of misguided statements....

For a more informed analysis, SDA readers may want to examine an excellent article by Steve Flesher at American Thinker.

Liberals and Republicans alike declared Ronald Reagan unqualified to be president, especially after Gerald Ford beat him for the Republican nomination in 1976. Even after four years of Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford himself remarked as late as March 1979 that Reagan was "unelectable."

Gerald Ford is not the only member of a previously-failed presidential campaign to make such a proclamation. Just last month, Steve Schmidt, who headed the losing McCain ticket, claimed that Palin would not be "a winning candidate" for president.

Posted by: Brent Weston at December 12, 2009 3:10 PM

the joke on the lefties is that they catapulted Sarah to the "top" with their attacks on her, without those attacks she would probably still be mayor of Alaska and inconsequential

Posted by: GYM at December 12, 2009 3:33 PM

Hey, anyone notice she's speaking in a totally different manner? None of that phony folksy crap, with the dropping og 'g''s, etc. Her voice is even different, pitched lower, not so perky and "well, golly gee!" It can't be explained away by the fact that she's reading another's words.

Makes you think, doesn't it? Like the folksy stuff is put-on act. Wonder what else is put-on?

BTW, when someone does an act, like Shatner did, based on the implicit premise that you are a blithering idiot, it usually doesn't help, in most discerning eyes, for you to jump in and help them out with the spirit of "it's all good fun".....but whatever.

Posted by: bleet at December 12, 2009 3:36 PM

a xmas tune for you all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDbRTlKK-Ok


hey bleet , reading is the same as a teleprompter. check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpM_Pv430Qg

Posted by: cal2 at December 12, 2009 3:42 PM

more frightening tha Obama doing nothing would be him doing what he promised.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj91NH5fvw&feature=related

Posted by: cal2 at December 12, 2009 3:46 PM

Maybe Palin isn't, at this time qualified to be president. What are proper qualifications? It is afterall a popularity contest. The gormless clod who presently leads the U.S. is not qualified in any respect but he did win the contest. Each time Palin is the subject of a Letterman joke or makes an appearance on prime time tv she increases her popularity.

Posted by: abtrapper at December 12, 2009 3:58 PM

That lady is definitely the next POTUS.

Kate: Have you invited her down to hunt white-tail with you next fall?

Heh.

Posted by: Mad Mike at December 12, 2009 4:00 PM

Sarah.

Class act.

Part of me wishes I was American because of her. What an awesome lady!

Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at December 12, 2009 4:09 PM

Boy wen bleet comes out from under his rock to blast somebody, it sure is a withering attack! I mean wow!

But there is one thing I don't understand, bleet, and maybe you can help me with this, because I am a little slow, but is it at all possible that the media overemphasized the folksiness as a line of attack? Do you resent that she is controlling how she is presented now? I sure do! I wish that we could only get our Sarah second hand through trusted filters like NBC and MSNBC, and CNN! I bet if that happened, we wouldn't have to wonder why she seems maybe a little smarter than I thought.

Posted by: tim in vermont at December 12, 2009 4:10 PM

Brent: Flesher's is a superficial comparison which takes no account of the demonstrated depth of Reagan's thinking on a very wide range of issues by the mid-70s, well before he ever became President. Palin at this stage can't come close, and I don't think she ever will.

The main similarity right now between Reagan and Palin is the one you focus on, that they were/are widely dismissed. But Flesher overstates his argument in Reagan's case, and even if it was just as he says it was for Reagan by the mid-70s, that's not enough to validate the comparison between him and Palin. But as far as I've seen, this is the main argument that those people use who want to draw a favourable comparison between the two. It's simplistic.

Still, as I said, I like her and detest the way she's been treated by the left and the media.

Posted by: mj at December 12, 2009 4:17 PM

You know, Microsoft has a motto: Embrace and extend. I think this is Palin's strategy... take the jokes, and make them yours. She comes across as good-humoured, and the people love it.

And this is in Los Angeles.

Posted by: Norman at December 12, 2009 4:39 PM

Bleet, you ain't seen nothing. Hunt up some youtube of Obama talkin' to black folk, if you want to witness dialect swing.

Posted by: Kate at December 12, 2009 5:46 PM

DAMN! that woman is hot.

Posted by: Doug at December 12, 2009 5:58 PM

Without doubt OBOZO and Obamamania will be carefully analysed and studied for generations.

It appears that Sarah Palin is an integral fraction of that.

Sarah Palin is as much a product of the Democratic/media dream machine as OBOZO. The democrats/media instantly recognized Sarah Palin as their nemisis and went into insane attack mode.

Bizarre as it may seem, it is entirely possible that Sarah Palin has become what the Democrat/media machine envisioned and by adopting that image, Palin will become the first woman POTUS.

Now....let me clarify this.....the Democrat/media image of Palin is what is currently seen. In their desperation to remove her as a threat, the Democrat/media portrayal Of Sarah Palin as an inexperienced, uneducated, dim-witted, red-neck, rustic bumpkin was over-played perhaps. The unintended consequence was a lowered expectation, and inspired empathy for an underdog.

Image making is indeed a tricky business.

My position is that the Democrat/media machine should have stuck exclusively to inciting Obamamania and left Sarah Palin unmolested and unmentioned....but they didn't did they?

Posted by: sasquatch at December 12, 2009 6:08 PM

I emailed a copy of her op-ed on Climategate from the Washington Post to my MofP. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120803402.html

I don't agree with everything that comes out of her mouth, but she reaches a large chunk of the US population, some of whom I'm sure had never heard of Climategate, until Sarah told them.

Could be a little more fuel to the fire!

Posted by: mitchel44 at December 12, 2009 6:31 PM

Hey, anyone notice she's speaking in a totally different manner? None of that phony folksy crap, with the dropping og 'g''s, etc. Her voice is even different, pitched lower, not so perky and "well, golly gee!" It can't be explained away by the fact that she's reading another's words.

Makes you think, doesn't it? Like the folksy stuff is put-on act. Wonder what else is put-on?

Or maybe she's just capable of modulating her voice in this certain setting. I saw her speak publicly a few weeks ago, and that folksy vernacular was right there.

Posted by: Amy P. at December 12, 2009 6:58 PM

This is a parable Jesus spoke in parables so that people would understand.

This note is legal tender for all debts both public and private.

1. The government says you can take possession of any property contracted to purchase by surrendering said note.
2. Virtually all property is covered by such contracts, land, ships, buildings, planes, intellectual property, easements, licenses. It is virtually impossible to do anything without surrendering such note.
3, Say hypothetically all the property in ASU is worth $100 which is all the notes printed by ASU.

All items are covered by purchase and sale agreements and law satisfied by surrendering the notes.
initial agreement xyz
1. All the private land and buildings are worth $ 20.00 30.00
3. All vehicles and machinery are worth $ 20.00 30.00
5. All agreements to provide goods and services, medical, $ 20.00
labor, etc.
are worth


2. All public land and buildings are worth $ 20.00 30.00
4. All licenses and taxes are worth $ 20.00

sh $75.00 xyz $ 65.00 gov $40.00

john doe decides to start a company xyz inc. He has no assets but he promises to buy all the land machinery and vehicles for $90. He sell stock 100 shares @ $,70 per share and his company owns all the land and machinery in ASU. He rents all the land and machinery to the shareholders for $40 per year and gives his shareholders $.40 per share. His shareholders make $40.00 plus $20.00 for goods and services. The government pays xyz $10.00 per year to rent public property and $20.00 to rent vehicles and private property. The gov gives an additional $5.00 to xyz for goods and services and $5.00 to shareholders for goods and services.

His shareholders pay the taxes. They rent the land and vehicles. They provide the services and make $20.00. The government rents the land and pays goods and services of $5.00.
Understand that this is a laid back little country. Very small. a few old pick-up, some shacks a bunch of chickens running around. They printed $100 in 1847 and thats all there is. It is a real paradise except for one thing. Every 20 years or so a big hurricane named Gladiola comes in and smashes up the little country. Without fail, it can be as calm as a corpse for thousands of miles. Then even though ASU is landlocked, this big wind comes in and smashes everything.
Ii all started when a limey sailor showed up in town with painted harlot. Things were a lot different then. There were houses and cabanas and even a couple of churches and about eight bars. It seems the limey sailor and his harlot were mainly interested in the bars ( and each other ). To get on with the story. One sunny day this lady showed up in what looked to be a wedding dress. It was hard to tell it was so dirty, it looked like she had been wearing it for months. She came into town and said to the first soul she met. "My name is Gladiola. Have you seen this person?", and she showed a crumpled picture. The person she spoke with said, "It could possibly be that English gentleman who showed by a few weeks ago".
Gladiola then asked. "You might tell me where I could find him?" She was pointed to one of the local pubs. She walked to the door and peered in and stood there for a moment. She dropped the picture and put her hand to her eye. She left and no one has seen her before or since. But two days later we all heard a terrible howling and terrific wind and lightning. The rain came in sideways.
When it was over no one knew if the limey sailor or the harlot were alive or among the missing.
The country was rebuilt as good as new, but twenty years later almost to that day the same thing happened.
It was rebuilt this time with no bars and it became law that all must attend church.
No matter twenty years latter it happened again. Scientists from all over debunked it and came to the country to study and write papers. Those who survived it said "Yes, it sure looked like a hurricane all right!"
As painful as it is to live through this all these years, it was even worse after Nicaragua invaded us. Then when Gladiola came she took Nicaragua too. Now everybody just leaves us alone. You won't even see it on a map.
Once we were told to build holes and folks dug in. Sure is a lot of water in one of those canes. About the only ones to survive were above ground.
Then we were told to build concrete bunkers. The water washed out the foundations. The roofs of a couple that still show are a great place to work on the pickups.

Getting back to the original story which is our economy. When john doe finally grabbed every inch of this paradise ( paradise except for one thing ). The shareholders started bidding up the stock. The $,40 stock climbed to $200.00. john doe was selling options at a future date for 150.00 with the price at close to $200.00. What a steal! How could you lose!
john doe hired a guy to dump a load of ice by the river. He then got the guys at the TV station to say an ice age was coming sure as heck, 24 hours a day. By this time it was against the law to talk about Gladiola. Which was a subject nobody wanted to talk about anyway. And just after john sold his stock for $200. the stock went down to $,40. Then because john was "too big" to fail the government promised John $10 million, which is fifty times all the the money that's ever circulated in the country. So there are a couple of thousand ASU citizens that each owe john a million each.
Now john is building a great big stadium on top of drunken limey mountain, and there is a very slippery and steep path down, And all the folks who owe him money have to be up there next weekend. That's just about the time Gladiola comes through and I don't want to go.


Posted by: NANO at December 12, 2009 7:01 PM

Mj is bang-on in his comments.

To me she is this eras Douglas MacArthur - dearly loved by the right wing, deeply polarizing and ultimately very weak on policy and unelectable.

The question remains in this comparison whether palin will fade away in the run-up to the next election as mac a did after coming home.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 12, 2009 7:03 PM

Mike Kelley at December 12, 2009 11:55 AM

I guess there is no law against the future POTUS being drop-dead gorgeous

...And there you have the real reason for OUTRAGE from the left. The left's women are ugly...and jealous.

Posted by: RW at December 12, 2009 7:13 PM

Wow, Tim in Vermont

So the phony folksiness is merely the result of the Big Bad Liberal Media picking on her, huh?

Yeah, I just hate how they dubbed the "oh golly gee" stuff into her statements, and raised her voice two octaves higher than in the clip above and made her say she didn't know what the Bush doctrine was, or that she didn't know what newspapers she read.

I really hated when they did a CGI effect that made her like she was winking into the camera at the Vice Presidential Debate! Big Bad meanies!

Look - here they are again in an interview just last week:

INGRAHAM:Would you agree to a debate with Al Gore on this issue?

PALIN: Oh my goodness. You know, it depends on what the venue would be, what the forum. Because Laura, as you know, if it would be some kind of conventional, traditional debate with his friends setting it up or being the commentators I’ll get clobbered because, you know, they don’t want to listen to the facts....

Oh my goodness, gosh and golly gee! Poor widdle Sarah!

INGRAHAM: But what if it’s an Oxford-style, proper debate format. I mean, he’s going to chicken out. I mean, if you challenge him to a debate, do you actually think he would accept it?

PALIN: I don’t know, I don’t know. Oh, he wouldn’t want to lower himself, I think, to, you know, my level to debate little old Sarah Palin from Wasilla.

AWWWW! Little poor widle ol' Sarah!

I HATE how the Big Bad Liberal Media puts those words in her mouth to make her sound like a victimized faux populist whiner!

But you dig it, huh, Tim, just like with GWB talkin' like a halfwit hayseed (even though he's an aristocratic blueblood with an elite education) 'cause it doesn't make you feel inferior. Suckered again!

Posted by: bleet at December 12, 2009 7:14 PM

Folks, please stop feeding the troll.

Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at December 12, 2009 7:32 PM

When a politician tries to act, it is usually pretty bad but Sarah and Captain Kirk was priceless. Those two pulled off the skit pretty well. Bravo.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at December 12, 2009 7:34 PM

Well bleet, I am deeply touched by the honor of your reply.

While I accept the bulk of your rebuke as inarguable gospel truth, and in retrospect, after your clear exposition, even obvious, but I would just like to know where the "Bush Doctrine" was formally codified. It would help me so much if you could point me to it, because, like poor ignorant Sarah, I can't find any reference to it outside of the left wing blogosphere.

Is her sin that she is unaware of the natterings of Kos? I bet she is also unaware of the engineering details of the findings of the troofers that heat can't weaken steel?

Posted by: tim in vermont at December 12, 2009 7:35 PM

Y'know, Conan's hair would look good on the masthead of this blog.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at December 12, 2009 7:42 PM

Colin,
Sorry, but I can't stop, it's too much fun. Besides, I want to know where the "Bush Doctrine" is written down, really, and I think bleet knows. The "Monroe Doctrine" was laid out in an address to Congress in 1823. I am sure that there is a similar formal declaration for the Bush doctrine *somewhere*. After all, he is sure of it, and we know he wouldn't lie to us.

Posted by: tim in vermont at December 12, 2009 7:44 PM

Hey bleet, you did not answer the question regarding about when Obozo puts on the Harlem verbiage. Furthermore, keep up "eh", Gore will not debate anybody for fear of being blown out of the water and being shown up for the big liar that he is.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at December 12, 2009 7:44 PM

Hey tim -

Are you gonna quote Krauthammer's column defending Palin for not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is, where he blathers on in a mealy-mouthed fashion sayin' how there's so MANY meanings of the Doctrine that we can't blame poor little ol' Sarah?

(When even by his own definitions(s) the meaning of the Doctrine is unilateralism, for the cause of self-defense, or spreading democracy, or whatever) FAIL!

But keep on with the "poor ignorant Sarah" stuff, Tim. You're all so 'poor' and victimized by the Big Bad Liberal Media!! For a bunch of self-reliant tough-talkin' Randians y'all sue do a lot of whining.

Posted by: bleet at December 12, 2009 7:45 PM

you know the sidekicks these tawk-show guys have....?

like Conan's ....and johnny's ?


you know,i've always wanted to be one....i think i'd be a great asset xly....and prolly develop a following of my own......i wouldn't be a suckup either...well, not at first anyway....not until i got my fan base cemented....and a few endorsements for stuff....and not dandruff shampoo neither...or preparation H....high end stuff that uses like lasers and so on and so forth..

Posted by: john begley at December 12, 2009 7:55 PM

and i'd hire bleet as my chauffeur pool boy doormat whipping boy dogwalker and punching bag....and scullery maid...

Posted by: john begley at December 12, 2009 7:58 PM

Tim...he took the bait. Ha!!
Hey Colin...even Kate got in to the game!

Posted by: bluetech at December 12, 2009 8:00 PM

Hilary's black.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQYdg3LYqJE&feature=related

Posted by: richfisher at December 12, 2009 8:00 PM

I love it! Two of my favorite people:)

Posted by: Indiana Homez at December 12, 2009 8:14 PM

As far as Kate and "rickfisher" go, instead of defending Pallin from the charge that her persona is a phoney put-on, they attempt to make the claim of "well the 'other side' does it too!"

Wow, what a retort, huh? And so telling.....

Posted by: bleet at December 12, 2009 8:15 PM

bleet,
I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. Where is the formal "Bush Doctrine" written down? I want to know because it is not at all clear to me that Sarah mishandled the question:

"GIBSON: Do you agree with the Bush doctrine? PALIN: In what respect, Charlie? GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be? PALIN: His world view. GIBSON: No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September 2002

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/sarah-palins-charlie-gibs_n_125772.html

"enunciated", let's get a definition there.

"TRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To pronounce; articulate."

So, is there a formal pronouncement of the Bush Doctrine, or is it just a collection of ideas put together by pundits? If it is a formal declaration, then Palin sure looks stupid, but if it is just an informal collection, put together by the kind of left wing pundits that Gibson reads, then, forgive me for thinking this, but maybe she was justified in asking for clarification. September of 2002 should be a pretty good hint for you to start looking.

I would hate to think that you were not going to answer a simple direct question, that must have a simple answer.

Posted by: tim in vermont at December 12, 2009 8:26 PM

Bleet:

Krauthammer was right on the vagueness of the Bush Doctrine. If memory serves, even Cheney has publically said there is no defined doctrine.

But it should be duly noted that krauthammer has sadi that he thought Palin to be unqualified for POTUS. It's been a year since then but i doubt she has changed his mind. Perhaps if she proves herself a quick study that could change...

Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 12, 2009 8:28 PM

I truly hope that bleet will elucidate us with his vast knowledge and explain the Bush Doctrine. No doubt GWB would like to know about it as well because I've always thought that the "Bush Doctrine' was more the figment of leftist's fevered imagination than extant documents or even verbal doctrine

Posted by: Joe at December 12, 2009 9:04 PM

Well, I guess there can be some sport to jerking around the resident troll(s). Personally, I derive no satisfaction from it. But heck, if our gracious hostess is even getting in on the hunt, who am I to argue?

Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at December 12, 2009 9:06 PM

Bleet
Are you a member of Acorn?

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at December 12, 2009 9:16 PM

I am curious as to in what way the Governor is "unqualified".
Anyone who takes a good look at the positions she has held, and her accomplishments while in office, would have to think that she is more qualified than any of the other three that ran in 2008.
Furthermore, she has the courage, and strength of character that very few in politics have today.

Posted by: Lee at December 12, 2009 9:28 PM

bleet:

just like with GWB talkin' like a halfwit hayseed (even though he's an aristocratic blueblood with an elite education)

Er, didn't you spend most of 2000-2008 dismissing GWB as a half-wit hayseed, and completely discounting his Yale and Harvard degrees? Would you do us a favour, and make up your mind (presupposing, of course, that you're actually in possession of one)?

Posted by: KevinB at December 12, 2009 9:33 PM

Bleet, you're just jealous because YOU'RE not on TV. Deal with it.

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at December 12, 2009 9:42 PM

Apparently, she's coming to help out on a breast cancer fundraiser in the heart and soul of NDP land (Hamilton) and some people are upset about it:
Sarah Palin coming to Hamilton

Posted by: pete at December 12, 2009 9:47 PM

I do apologize. I should pick a more worthy troll. Just not sure where I can find one. If you go over to a lefty site to argue with them there, they just start deleting your more cutting posts.

Posted by: tim in vermont at December 12, 2009 10:12 PM

As Sarah Palin finished her brilliant performance on Conan, I glanced over at Bleet, who had a look of astonishment on his face, vaguely similar to the look on Spock's face when he brain was missing. And I remembered, his brain is missing.......

Posted by: Robert in Calgary at December 12, 2009 10:32 PM

...of course I understand Bleet trolls because he has no self-esteem, BOOM! Taste my keyboard troll.

Posted by: Robert in Calgary at December 12, 2009 10:34 PM

Lee: to put it bluntly, she's a lightweight when it comes to policy, particularly foreign policy.

Up until she was the vp nom she had shown no real interest in national and foreign affairs. To be a truly successful leader of teh free world you have to eat sleep and drink these issues. Granted between 11/9 and 9/11 it didn't seem that foreign affairs were as pressing as they were from 1917 and 1989 but poat 9/11 they are vital to success (witness obama's catastrophic failure). Charles Krauthammer and many others have documented this weakness and couric et al exploited it in '08.

I doubt that these things are simply learned cram-style - youhave to have an interest in it - and she has shown nil interest and thus in the opinion of many she is not qualified to be potus.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 12, 2009 11:05 PM

Gord, i disagree.
Her speech in Hong Kong showed a pretty good grasp of issues. Her op ed on Israel was right on according to the "experts".
I dont know what anyone expects to see from any candidate, bearing in mind that those who are in the White House have much more information.
Joe Biden was supposed to be a big deal in international issues,and look how that turned out.
Nobody denies her expertise on energy issue.
She has put out a couple of op-eds on Afghanistan.
She is underestimated to a large degree.

Posted by: Lee at December 13, 2009 12:06 AM

The op-eds and speeches post the election done to rehabilitate her image unfortunately. I do not see how they make her competent prior to the election. And until i see her in an interview discussing the issues and showing she can think on her feet (something a possibly ghost-written speech or op-ed would not show) on these issues i remain a skeptic.

As for her understanding of the energy issues I would say she is little better versed in the international aspect than ed stelmach and that isn't saying much.

Joe biden could somewhat talk the talk on foreign issues, but he was/is a moron and emotionally a loose cannon and he should not be VPotus. I do not see how his incompetency puts Palin in a better light. (I just finished reading how he was back when he was running for POTUS in '88 (what it takes - ben Kramer) - shocking that anyone even considers him worthy of any elected office.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 13, 2009 12:38 AM

Gord Tulk - I live in the Yukon and I know of Sarah Palin before she was well known to most people; while she was 'only' Governor of the biggest state in America. She got a pipeline deal DONE between Alaska and the lower 48 via the Yukon and Alberta. It had been tied up in land claims , enviroweenies , the really 'unfit' gument jokers in the Yukon,....Governor Palin went directly to Foothills Pipeline, who owned the corridor - and then she told the incompetents what would be happening and how they could help. The people in the Yukon (all the groupies were squawking) were way out of their depth as the Governor answered each and every argument in a bullet proof manner.

The Governor of Alaska has a genuine and gracious presence and she has an incredible memory for facts and figures (she did not even rely on notes - she just had back=up notes in case she needed a direct quote). I have been told that she has a photographic memory. I watched the whole thing unfold with shock and awe!

She cleaned up the corruption in the Alaska Leg. right away. Alaska citizens in Alaska own Alaska's resources - they all got a great big cheque in the mail (thousands, each) in the years that Governor Palin was Governor. Yep, she redistributed the wealth - you betcha - from corrupt to the rightful owners! She is one fine lady, IMO.

Posted by: Jema54 at December 13, 2009 2:22 AM

Jema: i agree with everything you have noted.

However, does she know anything about pipeline issues in Europe? How much does she know about the geopolitical impact of shale gas extraction on NG supply and price (now practically infinite and likely never to go above $6 for any extended period for the next century) ? What does she about THAI and deep water oil ?

She was/is very strong on domestic Alaska issues - she has nil experience beyond that and has shown no conclusive proof that she has much understanding of issues outside of the realm. (she certainly did not do so during the '08 campaign and that was a very significant factor in obama's victory)

Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 13, 2009 9:17 AM

Slightly to tweak a line from that wondrous Zombie Ayn Rand thing that was so popular on teh intertubes a while back, this Palin woman is a standing threat to the heterosexuality of young Libertarian women everywhere.

(She's in Zombie Ayn Rand and Bill Shatner is too, and come to think of it I'm not sure you couldn't say the same about him. Sorry, Indy, I know he's your captain, but he's no Leonard Nemoy.)

Posted by: Black Mamba at December 13, 2009 9:44 AM

Gord, the issue i have is in how people are being judged.
Biden was judged to be "expert" on foreign policy.
Palin is judged to be "not expert".
Maybe the method of judging these people needs to be examined.
As far as Obama's victory is concerned, it is pure folly to lay that at the feet of Sarah Palin. McCain and his people screwed up that election.
There is nobody in this world who is expert on everything. A president does not have to be an engineer. They hire engineers to advise them.
The most valuable asset of an executive is to be able to recognize a good idea when they see one.

Posted by: Lee at December 13, 2009 9:52 AM

Lee:

The judgement on biden was incorrect, the judgement on Palin was and may still be correct.

There were many follies in the election - one of the most significant was mccain picking an unqualified VPOTUS nominee as it destroyed his whole competence Meme. Just look at how the polls declined post her speech as more people came to see her flaws. (i thought and still think she has great potential - she has amazing hutzpah - but that in and of itself is not enough to make her qualified)

As for the engineering analogy, it doesn't wash. One of the key distinguishing characteristics of great political leaders is that they had a deep understanding of the issues before them. Palin does not have that.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 13, 2009 10:37 AM

Just look at how the polls declined post her speech as more people came to see her flaws.

I really did not know how to respond to your previous posts here, Gord. I had to balance two thoughts in my mind: 1) I normally find that a person who posts the way you have been in this thread to be quite poorly researched in their analysis of Governor Palin; and 2) I normally find your posts to be well thought out and demonstrating a keen analytical mind.

With the above quote you do demonstrate that on this issue (notwithstanding your normally excellent posts) you have not done your homework. It really does not take much work to understand that McCain was behind in the polls, took an instant lead after Palin's initial national speech and held onto that lead over the next few weeks. Despite the relentless and vicious attacks against the Governor, the lead held. It was after the financial crisis became public and McCain's handling of same that Obama regained the lead. The vicious attacks continued; the margin of Obama's lead fluctuated with the normal variance that accompanies polls but no more than that. In short, Palin was an asset to the McCain/Palin ticket, but not enough to overcome the negativity associated with the handling of a major issue by the Leader. The vicious attacks may have made her opponents hate her more, but did not detract from the supporters' support. This is the way it should be: the polls should reflect a perception of the Leader and the assistant should be an assistant.

That you somehow miss what is relatively so easy to grasp indicates to me that you have deeper issues with Palin that are not tied to an objective analysis of information. There are valid reasons to critique Governor Palin; however to conclude that "holes" in her resume somehow equate to "unqualified" has never been satisfactorally established. When you are prepared to do a thorough and exhaustive examination of the information, you will find that Jema54's post at 2:22am is only a summary. Palin's record is stellar on the issues that she has been involved in. It is her intelligence and her managerial capabilities that have enabled her to succeed where others have failed.

When you are prepared to give Palin a fair hearing, you will find that many like her more the more they find out about her. I can see by your posts here that that day is not today, but I look forward optimisticaly to the day when Gord Tulk uses his normal objectivity in the examination of the record of Governor Palin.

Posted by: Brent Weston at December 13, 2009 4:20 PM

Bravo Brent!

Posted by: Robert in Calgary at December 13, 2009 5:52 PM

Thanks Brent - good post.

My wife, daughter and myself watched the first speech she did as the VP Nominee, we were all chuckling with delight, so refreshing to hear a real person on the national stage.

Sarah Palin is no more or less qualified than Barak Obama and he's sinking because of his ideology where Palin in the same situation would rise based on hers. The difference is Obama's trend to the tyranny of big goverenment over Palin's message of freedom and individual responsibility.

There is no mistaking the choice most on this message board would take.

Posted by: LEDA at December 13, 2009 11:55 PM

Thank-you Brent Weston.

I cringe every time I hear the 'anointed one' speak because he is always opening his yap to hurt or destroy my values. I can't stand his arrogance - I wish, with all my Libertarian instincts, that our Prime Minister had this charming, sensible, intelligent lady to deal with - and the old soldier - who would have been ten times better as President with Vice President Palin to temper his Liebral tendencies - rather than that fanatical adolescent, his goofy VP and all his 'pals', the Red 'Czars'.

Posted by: Jema54 at December 14, 2009 2:47 AM

Obama! Good Byeah! She will eat your lunch!

Posted by: Nicko at December 14, 2009 11:23 PM
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