Be careful folks wild rose will never be a majority in canada so if you want to ruin our federal govornment then so be it but you will suffer a much worse fate if wild rose get's cotrol we need a majority conservative gov't in canada and if we lose seat's in the federal govornemnt because we want a wild rose govornment then our gains provincially will all be lost federally.

Paul in calgary

I do how ever agree with getting red ed the heck out of the govornment as well as all the green's that bought into and libs that bought into the red ed govornment ...so some purging with in would be good but to get rid of the cons would be detrimental federally !!

Paul in calgary

Paul, so what? The BQ in Quebec will never be a majority in Canada and it hasn't hurt them. Maybe one of these days there will be a party in Alberta with enough clout to take us out of Canada.

Alberta to Paul...this is not about forming a majority in Ottawa...its about provincial government sticking it to Ottawa.

Here in rural Alberta, this government has been written off. Danielle Smith has people excited. The WRA will be able to run straw bales as candidates south of Red Deer, and will be poised to sweep virtually every seat.

The big question remains- how long until the PC rats start to abandon the S.S. Stelmach?

If Smith is smart, she'll tell them to take a flying leap.

It will be the perfect storm for western separation.

The political purge may be beginning, but our Universities are still infested.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/thomas-the-tank-engine-is-sexist-study-20091211-ko9h.html

That is from UofA research.

Perfect storm indeed John...we can't let the eastern elite (aka The lieberals) pilage the west again when they come to power. Smith I believe will put up the much needed firewall that eventually bring separation...jeez I can't wait for a western republic!

Posted by: Gordon Kesler at December 11, 2009 2:34 PM

I thought you got mad, and moved to the States. Please, don't endorse the Wildrose party.

Having listened to Danielle Smith a few times before she won the WRA leadership, she impressed me as a sensible, market oriented person who doesn't want to remake Alberta- just to restore and maintain the structures that make business and residents prosper.

Paul, no one wants a federal Wildrose party, it's an Alberta thing. I'm fairly sure most small "c" conservatives in this province are able to tell the difference between the provincial and the federal Tories. After all, they continued to vote Conservative provincially at the same time Reform was cleaning up federally.

Lots of my friends and family are already looking forward to Danielle as the next premier, and they can't wait. No one I know is too concerned about the Tories at this point.

dp

Not one in the same. I do commend you on your knowledge of Alberta history.

Splitting the right is stupid.

Especially when one knows anything about the current Leader of the Liberal Party (Swann).

Were Swann to slip up the middle, I for one, would be furious at the Wildroe Alliance.

I don't think the Wild Rose popularity is a commentary on the Conservative Party.

It is a commentary on Ed.

He seems to be under the impression that the big election win was an endorsement of him as a leader. My view is that it was a rejection of the brain-dead Liberal / NDP / Green platforms. Most people just decided that things were going pretty well (oh, how times have changed) so why not continue with the conservatives?

Little did we know that the compromise candidate was even more clueless about leadership than the Liberals or NDP could ever hope to be.

Will Alberta stop voting conservative nationally?

Not a chance! Wild Rose is still a well right-of-centre party ... much more so than Ed's Conservatives. All those people supporting that conservative message are not about to jump ship to the Liberals or the NDP.

"Splitting the right is stupid."

There will be no splitting the right, it's going to the WRA. I'd like to hear in what way you think the PC's are right?

It will be the centre-left that ends up crawling over each other for the remaining votes.

At this pace, a WRA majority seems certain. However, two years is more than enough time to screw that up.

"There will be no splitting the right, it's going to the WRA."

Yes. The numbers are only this low because people are still getting used to the idea of competition for the Tories from the right. If the WRA is the real deal, current Tory voters will switch easily.

Paul, your logic is rather weak. You have not established that voting for WRA at the provincial level is equivalent to weakening the CPC at the federal level.

Although not a certainty, the contrary is more likely. There are a lot of similarities between the WRA and the former Reform Party although, of course, differences do exist. With WRA in charge of Edmonton, Canada could see, for the first time, the benefits of a centre-right party.

It is common at SDA to suggest that Harper is somehow a closet Liberal. I suggest a different analysis. Harper is a centrist by Canadian standards. That the definition of a centrist in Canada is further to the left than in the USA is a given, but Harper is a centrist by Canadian standards. As a centrist who pulls support from the conservative part of the country, he will have MPs who are more conservative than he. He is okay with this and suggests that the CPC is a "big tent" party. He uses "big tent" in a different way that the left in Canada is used to using the term. For the most part, Canadians in the eastern six provinces want the greater honesty and integrity of the CPC (as compared to the Liberals) but still seem to want Liberal policies. For whatever reason, they do not want change that is of the order that the Reform Party suggested. We all know that Harper is constrained by this reality.

Despite the worst predictions of the left, the CPC does not have a "hidden agenda", the country has not become "American", nor has the country fallen off the end of the world since Harper has been given control of the country. Yet, the default position still seems to be that Canadians want the Liberals to clean up their corruption and then get back to governing.

I suggest that a WRA government would implement provincial policies that would be more in line with what Reform would have tried to do federally. An interested Canadian would soon find out that the worst predictions of the left about what would happen in a WRA-led Alberta would be as accurate as those same persons who suggested "hidden agenda" about Harper.

Therefore, a WRA government in Edmonton would further the work that Reform started over 20 years ago in Canada. It would slowly continue the normalization of the idea that progressive policies can be replaed with better ideas without Canada coming to a bitter ending.

Albertans, when will you start exporting to the ROC?

Paul, no one wants a federal Wildrose party, it's an Alberta thing. I'm fairly sure most small "c" conservatives in this province are able to tell the difference between the provincial and the federal Tories.
~Em

Paul, there aren't any Progressive Conservatives represented in Parliament, at least there better not be.
Em, I want a federal Wildrose Party, in Edmonton, ruling the new Alberta nation.

Seriously though, Albertans need a party that puts their interests first, ahead of Canada, ahead of the unions, and ahead of the "Global Socialist Cabal".

Albertans, when will you start exporting to the ROC?

Oil? Gas? Wheat? Beef? Equalization Payments?

Didn't you get the memo?

The appeal of Wild Rose is its common sense values. Libertarian really. And that would be a good influence federally, untill we can toss that stifling eastern yoke.
Priorities:
One/Stop wasting $2MM by sticking air in the ground
Two/Stop the transfer payments until we balance our budget.
Three/Start telling the truth about our energy industry against the deep pocketed multinational mean green giant. Speak truth to power!
Four/Reexamine post secondary funding, add to usefull faculties and skill producing segments, delete the socialist industrial complex associated faculties. We all know who they are
Five/Opt out of the cbc tv. We can do without this one sided left wing propaganda machine

Happy trails!

There is a poll at the Calgary Herald currently indicating +50% for the Wildrose Alliance, granted it's a MSM poll, but their readership isn't known for embracing big changes, and the Calgary Sun doesn't cater to the left.
As noted above, the P.C.'s in Alberta didn't really face any strong opposition here in the last provincial election, next time will be very different. It'll be interesting times for those so called conservatives to be defending what they've done here in the past 2 terms. I for one, would agree with Ralph's father. The old time P.C. has had their time.
Don Getty's carbon burial program should be the first to go. I hope Wildrose reminds the electorate regarding this 2 billion dollar idiocy.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/index.html

Brent Weston @ 3.04, agreed.

http://www.wildrosealliance.ca/our-policies

> Oil? Gas? Wheat? Beef? Equalization Payments?

Do I have to say it? Probably I do, in capital letters and slowly: Wildrose Alliance. Get it now?

Hey Aaron go git yer own!

I personally think that the problem is the Civil Service's Special Ed. He has been in too many ministries and has been thoroughly owned by 'his' civil servants.

The funny part is I'll bet that most Albertans who want to vote WRA couldn't pick Danielle Smith out of a police lineup. I caught a snip of Paul Hinman on the radio yesterday and he came across as less than impressive but then I don't care because I will vote WRA just to get rid of Special Ed!

I am in substantial agreement with Brent.

Further, I don't see any contradiction between voting Conservative at the Federal level and Wild Rose at the Provincial. I vote for the party that is most small c and or libertarian relative to the competition. I don't see how this is "splitting" the party. While there is some overlap between the Federal and Provincial wings, they are two separate animals.

Ed and his cronies have moved the Alberta PC's well to the left. Wild Rose will pull things back to the right place.

I will be writing Danielle to see if she will take the same approach to AGW as Sarah Palin. Given the mood in Alberta these days, if she has the guts to do this, the competition PC/Lib/Green/NDP will be eliminated.

My point is that if we don't want the libtards in ottowatelling us what to do then we need to pull for a majority gobmint and iff we lose all our seat's in alberta then we have less representing us in ottowa that is all i am saying ....as well the leader of the WRA is an athiest,pro gay marrige ,pro abortion type and i just don't want to see a continual promotion of moral decay . but i do like there policies though i like alot about the WRA seriously i do but until we hold a referendum to separate i will grudgingly vote conservative simply for the reasons stated above i am a christian and i am against abortion ,gay marrige and all of that .

Paul in calgary

trappedintrudeaupia,

You forgot, turf the Alberta Human Reichs (whoops) Rights Commission.

Paul

Please explain how we lose all the federal PC seats by voting WR in a Provincial election? WR is a Provincial Party.

The most important issue that we face in the next few years is our economy and jobs. We need a strong free market government, not a lukewarm rehashed liberal.

Good! When conservative politicians cease to be, kick them out.

Danielle Smith strikes me as being an extremely intelligent,articulate and practical person. Far more intelligent than Ed (you mean I really won!)Stelmach. And yes, I will say this as well, she isn't too hard on the eyes either.

I have more faith in her to handle the likes of another liarberal, dipper, BQ coalition. I truly believe the response would be well thought, and direct. Unlike the stammering of our dear Ed.

I saw a story on BNN today about Arc Energy wanting to exploit the old Pembina field with new drilling technology. (8 Billion barells est.) They say the oil is light, sweet crude but is trapped in a tough formation that they can now get at. But, they will probably go after the heavier oil of the Bakken play because of the royalty scheme of Ed & Co.

My vote will be for the Wildrose Alliance.

Chris in the Bridge

P.S. If the liaberals get in federally then we definitely need the WRA and Smith. Vive L'Alberta Libre!

We need strong leadership and WRA has it. Sask has it with Wall. Look out ROC, do not f*ck with the west anymore.

Right on Kate. Climategate has got to be kept front and centre and you and a few others are the only ones doing it in Canada. The MSM are in collusion in a monumental hoax and the truth must get out.

I find all the gotcha journalism about what happened to Afghan thugs being turned over to their own countrymen 3 or 4 years unproductive besides they should be attacking NATO not our brave Canadian troops.

I'm a moderate, not from Alberta, and probably a Liberal voter (federally) most of the time, but I will say that Danielle Smith is and will be a force to be reckoned with in Alberta and perhaps at the national level some day. I say that even though I am probably at odds with a lot of her policy positions and wouldn't personally vote for her. Comparing her to Sarah Palin is ridiculous. Danielle Smith is smart, articulate, and very charismatic. She feels like the real deal when she speaks and will have an ability to form a large tent from conservative wary voters.

She absolutely nailed this interview with Mansbridge.

http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/oneonone/2009-11-01.wmv

Paul in Calgary wrote:

"...as well the leader of the WRA is an athiest,pro gay marrige ,pro abortion type "

Geez, I think I like her even more now, maybe enough to vote for her if I had the opportunity and it wasn't for all the crazy social conservatives in the rest of the party.

Canada needs a strong fiscally conservative, socially liberal option. Aka something fairly libertarian. Anyone else with me on this?

Why are so many people associating the WRA with separation. They are not separatists, check out their web site.

Mark @ 5:21 said "Canada needs a strong fiscally conservative, socially liberal option. Aka something fairly libertarian. Anyone else with me on this?" That sounds like a "Progressive" Conservative. Exactly what we do not want. This country has has enough social degradation.

I think when the 'Alberta' election comes, special Eddie might be looking for a job. As for the federal conservatives, I don't think that electing the WRA party is going to hurt them. The Sask party/Brad Wall sure isn't hurting Saskatchewan.

WRA right on, maybe WRA & Saska party could merge?
Better yet Sask & Alberta could join & separate
forming new mega world power Albertawan? Saskberta?

The WAP's acceptance in Alberta is not just due to Eds failure to lead. There has been a systemic problem of spending for years. After Ralph's first 4 years as premiere the Alberta PC's started losing their fiscal edge and started spending radically. It wasn't just all due the extra revenues from the booming oil and gas market, but there was a threat of the rising popularity of the Libs. What is unfortunate is that the spending continued till now and small c conservatives were left without a viable option. Hence the rise of the WAP.

Not only do we have a party that has great policies(fiscally), we also have a party that is bent on recall, dissolving excess government infrastructure, member established policy rearing and promoting the freedoms of individuals.

Call me biased, but I am a part of it.

O.K. I am sorry for the confusion to everyone so I would really like a chance to explain i didn't have one earlier because i was at work on lunch break ....please here me out

I think it is important to understand alittle about myself so you can undertsand where i am comming from

I am a church going christian (lutheran) with mild libertairian leanings .

So i do very much respect and like the WRA platform and overal party i think it is great.

Now correct me if i am wrong if we have a WRA provincial govornment they would be represented in the house by however many seat's right there is only so mnay seat's right ? i think ! so if we have a WRA in alberta then there is less CPC seat's federally so we would be under a WRA party in alberta like may and duceppe in the round table they are there but they will never be taken seriously so it is kind of a wasted vote if we want a majority conservative federal govornment right ? Correct me if i am wrong ! all i am saying is that the only chance we have federally to get the conservatives a majority federally is to represent them provincially right i think ...i don't know i am probly wrong lol ...but i thought that in each riding the majority ruled then the majority of riding's made up the provincial and the number of provincial made up the seat's in the federal and the majority of seat's in the federal made up the federal or something like that . Anyway .

I don't like the leader of either provicial party both the CPC OR THE WRA one becasue he is an idiot and a greedy idiot at that with a bunch of goons along for the ride ...and the other for moral reasons ....again i said i am tired of having this "progressive" crap shoved down my throat pro gay .pro abortion/choice, anti family,anti church ,pro muslims sympathisers, Green tards ,let's hold hands and sing koom by ya kinda crap and everything that is wrong in the world is all the jew's and white christians fault ..i mean myself i have a daughter ...and i just read an article or it was maybe in micheal savages book the enemy with in about a boston male teacher that cross dresses ...the A.C.L.U. defended him and his "right's" and so now there is a cross dressing teacher teaching middle school or junior high school kids ....Like how is this progressive even for atheist,libertairian ...explain how pro gay ,pro abortion ,anti family,anti christian, is progressive i think it is the first signs of a decaying seociety ....but i am crazy i know ....but i all in all i like the WRA platform but i just don't think i can accept a progay marrige pro gay parade ,pro abortion leader at the helm of my ship ..sorry and i feel the same way about dickhead ed just for different reasons . I do like Harper and alot of you seem to think he is a centerist ...i personally beleive that he is pretty far right his hands are tied he CANNOT act or do the thing's he want's to do or else he will be ousted if he said no more gay marrige or the gun registry is abolished completley , or no more immigrant's for 15 years and started handing 300 dollar a month cheques for each child born ..he would get ousted if he said that there is no global warming he would get ousted ......take two of any of the following allong with i am sure you can think up a few ...combine them and if harper said any two of the above you know he would get ousted if he said no gay pride parades at least not funded federally and or abortions for that matter ...he would get ousted ...so My take on harper is that he is just waiting ....

Also I am very much against breaking up canada I am a very proud patriotic canadian and to see this country break up would be very very hurtful and sad not on albertains fault becasue i do understand the frustration here i see it all the time but the selfish french well you can even call them french casue people in france don't even undertsand them ..lol...but the torontonians,the montrealers,basically all the big city liberals just keep pumping our money into there wallet's i get that ...but i mean there has got to be some way to stop this isn't there ?

Paul in calgary .

Also for all the individual libertairian freedoms people out there ....there has got to be a limit because at somepoint when people have soo many individual right's then you start to erode the basic liberties that are good for all i.e. freedom of speech to call someone a fag ....for example yes it is not nice but just for that persons sexual orientation you could be brought up on hate crime charges you see what i mean so there you have freedom of speech great for every person no matter how idiotic or hateful the words are becasue of individual right's peopel are silenced so yeah ...and i actually have a big problem with very libertairian people they tend to whine alot about everylittle thing they love to split hairs it is wierd but very true at least from my expieriences witch aren't many but the ones i do have are very lop sided !!

Paul in calgary

"Splitting the right is stupid"

Name one right wing policy of Stelmach's PROGRESSIVE Conservatives? Just one - that's all I ask.

Paul I can be sure that even though Danielle has some more progressive ideologies than you or I, she doesn't impose them on people. One thing she is not is anti-church and anti-family. She might believe in pro-choice, but she also doesn't feel it is everyones responsibility to pick up the tab. Also, abortion and gay-marriage are federal matters not provincial ones.

As a Christian myself, I choose to love thy neighbor and lead by example(even though with all the crap going on in the world it is very trying at times). There is only one judge, and it ain't you or I, and I don't ever remember reading in the bible where Christians weren't vulnerable to sin so to say a Christian leader is the only way is a little backwards.

I believe what is most important in a government leader, is one who treats our money with respect and also respects our individual rights and freedoms.

Also Paul, I will always be more invested in the welfare of my family than the other families on the block. You can apply that to a metaphor regarding Alberta and Canada. And I am not extreme on this.

Anyone who has been with WRA (well .. before they were WRA) knows their history and the membership. I don't think much of that has changed since Danielle became leader, however, she may have some success keeping the more "extreme" members within the party quiet ... but that hasn't happened yet.

An election is still years away so a lot can happen between now and then. But I agree with all other Albertan's that a change in political parties is NEEDED and long overdue.

That goes for the Calgary elections coming up in 2010. Would all Calgarians reading this blog PLEASE vote to get rid of Bronconnier!! Do we really need another 3 years of THAT guy???

I have never voted for Bronconnier. It is going to be an uphill battle, but I think Ric McIver has a good chance at winning if he runs.

Let us see now,

Consider that the people of Alberta are conservative, this is no an analogy to being behind the times as the socialist/fascist would like the populace to believe.
On the contrary the people of Alberta are ways ahead of the rest of Canada, see the general education level of Albertans; it is rather high per population than the rest of Canada. What ever.
The interesting thing is that there are many (as in a lot) of easterners, engineers and such rather than sociologist and other assorted non contributive elements of the eastern wise guys that went to school for a long time and got out with nothing other than an educated attempt on how to fleece people that get up every morning and go, make a buck for the family. “Them” of course do their best of how to separate the plebeians from the earnings that they acquired doing an honest day of work at their particular job.
Apology to ET that your agent has a high regard for. ET, by this contributor is considered to be a sociologist that has earned respect by her reasoned contribution to this forum. Earned may not necessarily be the appropriate word, though your agent falls short in this regard. Of course ET does not rely on praise by someone that doesn’t know much about the intricacies of the subject. Her rock solid arguments are so solid that it makes some commenters write silly.
Anyway, have lived in Alberta for 30 years after leaving socialist paradise run by the communists, one has to recognize that the province was always at the forefront of development in all areas of human endeavor.
While the socialists/fascists and such assorted ‘ists would tell the world otherwise, it would be a lie. The purpose of the lie would be to suck money out of the companies that do business and make good money in Alberta.
Consider this, while working with some people in the power distribution system in the province, there was one of those things (can’t quite remember), anyway it was time to demonstrate your support for something or other, a guy working next to me wanted a day off. He phones (using high definition pc speak) to the energy distribution company, basically sucking them into the notion that they should have a day off next day. Just like that, it happened. This was open, transparent, case not hidden by any means.
The thing is, easterners consider western Canada to be somewhat of recessed crowd. Westerners on the other hand think that east is corrupt to the core. There is nothing more corrupt in the world than east coast of the North American continent. This can be derived by simple observation.
Of course the west coast is just as corrupt, the difference is they are more impregnated by it so it is as though being kind of “like da? (or however the expression is)

Anyway, sticking to the point, there is no doubt that Alberta leads the way, however otherwise the socialist/fascists like to spin it.
Perhaps, it does look like Saskatchewan is getting the drift.
The Wild Rose is logical continuation of the “progressive” conservatives that has always been main stream of Alberta thinking. Albertans, as opposed to other parts of this Great Country, have never succumbed to the socialist/fascist trends of east and west coast.

Truth to be told, your agent does not know how he comes up with this stuff. There is a lot of information if you read and think. It may be that the key words are “read and think”.

Paul - Whenever you hear the term "progressive" attached to a political party, a movement, or an organization you can be sure it's a lefty outfit because "progressive" is universal code for socialist.

Ralph Klein was a bit different from the rest of the Red Tories in Alberta.
Whatever his faults, he took the necessary steps to eliminated our debt. He created the political conditions to restore our oil patch after we were devastated by the Liberal NEP. He kept us free of a provincial sales tax, brought in the lower flat tax, and improved the tax regime to attract business. With Rod Love sitting on his shoulder being his conscience Alberta was the freest, most productive, and wealthiest province in the country.

Now we have a real right wing option and I hope the WRA wins in a landslide. They were on the ballot last election. The election was called within a couple of weeks after the Wildrose and the Alliance merged. I knew they had no chance of forming the government but I voted for them anyway. I couldn't bring myself to cast a vote for the Progressive Red Tories. Ralph retired and the Party anointed Special Ed.

I guess Ed was in there to do their dirty work for them. Their first two moves were to give themselves a raise and try to undo whatever benefits Ralph brought to the oil industry. Alberta is no longer debt free either. Many have mentioned the big stupid expensive boondoggle of pumping air into the ground. I can't wait to see the back of those twits.

Knacker i see and agree with everything you said ...but i will not put aside my moral christian beliefs in the name of "change" RED ED MUST go but the Conservative party is best inline with your and my values ...and trust me Danielle will at every option push her own personal agenda becasue that is what she think's is right , no different that any other party once they are in power the people get shoved to the back burner .

And your right no christian is with out sin ..we both know that , i think i will stick to the Conservative party though i just can't get over someone who is for same sex marrige it is wrong scripturaly so i cannot endorse that as you well know it is not myself or you who does the judging but the same thing goes for us we are watched and we will also be judged as well so to vote for someone who's beleifs go against scripture to me is not right how ever again i do like the platform of the party very much .

Paul in calgary

Paul, I respect your right to feel the way you do but I definitely do not agree that Danielle is there to push her personal social views on Alberta.

I am in the party and I hold a board seat for my constituency, if anything were ever to be done by the party that would compromise my beliefs I can assure you I would take action. Until then I sleep well at night knowing that there is positive change in the midst.

I would ask though, why would you associate the PC's as the natural Christian governing party? There are non-Christians in the PC party and there are Christians in left wing parties?

Last thought, "live in the world, not of the world"

>>Paul I can be sure that even though Danielle has some more progressive ideologies than you or I, she doesn't impose them on people.

I believe that was a Democrat campaign slogan not long ago.

Again , with respect i will stand by my scriptural beleifs and align myself with the party that best represent's my and my childrens best intres's and for someone who can reason in there head that abortion is good right and just and at the very least o.k. ...as well someone who would stand by and support gay marrige and parades goes against my moral beleif's ....Harper did it and i was very angry .....But i also can understand why he did it like i said before his hands are tied ....

I know very well there are probly several gay right's ,pro abortionist's in the conservative parry but they are not leading the party , so i draw the line there ...and personaly i think alot of people will as soon as this fact is put out there by the cons you will see the wild rose lose it's momentum ...that is not to say that they can't or won't win but you will see us bible thumpers align ourselves with the party that best aligns itself with scripture ...I have been wanting to vote for the C.H.P. but it is a wasted vote they will not get anywhere ....

Again i really like the WRA party platform and juts about everything in it ...however i do not want someone who has a complteley different set of morals than i do representing me and /or speaking for me ..and alot of christians feel that way ..if you don't mind me asking you what denomination are you knacker ?

do you attend every sunday ? where do you stand on abortion ,gay right's , and all of the anti church /family stuff ....just to make a quick point anyone who is pro gay right's ,and pro choice ...IS anti family and anti church by default i don't need to explain do i?

Paul in calgary .

I'm Christian Paul. I do not agree with denominations I just go to a church that my family feels comfortable with. That includes a church that is welcoming and also teaches the bible the way it was written. I have grown up in very ultra charismatic/cult-ish churches and I can honestly say I have grown very wise to the destruction of the church by Christians. I am not anti-church but I certainly understand why some are, and they have every right to be critical by the way a lot of Christians act. Do I attend every Sunday? no. I attend on a regular basis and I offer some of my musical talents.

I do not agree with abortion and I do not agree with homosexuality, that being said I do not get the right to bash gays and condemn those who have abortions, nor does it give you the right. As a family man I can assure you I am not anti-family. I find it humorous that I am even explaining this but you did ask.

Listen, I am a firm believer in the separation of church and state. Can a Christian be a politician? sure but I do not believe it is the church that should be the podium for a political party. My pastor said it was alright to sell memberships in the church, but I agreed with him that the microphone was off limits. You see I asked first, it is a sign of my respect to the church.

I would like to know what you would do if the PC's stay in but a non-Christian was given leadership of the party? Would you just not vote?, or would you then find a better option?

You see, rather than waiting for something to happen I decided to be proactive and make the steps. The PC party is old and tired. Their arrogance is well in the forefront. I do not mix well with arrogance. It is something I do not tolerate from anybody, Christian or not.

I am not going to speak further on this matter because I feel it is irrelevant, but I am open to discussing further on why the WAP has risen to the popularity they have and on policy issues.

http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.2&thid=12576e8f53aebbef&mt=application/pdf&url=http://mail.google.com/mail/%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D5d9967b5dc%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12576e8f53aebbef%26attid%3D0.2%26disp%3Dattd%26zw&sig=AHIEtbRxsBxtTKTmwACWnecoa2acVw90xQ

Here is an article Danielle wrote for the City Light news.

If someone knows HTML and can shorten that link, I would be grateful. Thanks.

you make a good point knacker but i am at work right now i will respond later!!

Dear Paul

Your an idiot, a stark raving loony moron. Please learn how our electoral system works. It's called Social Studies 10.

Provincial Party is not the same as Federal Party.

Provincial Seats is not the same as Federal Seats.

Wildrose Alliance is a provincial registered party
-People vote for them in provincial elections

Conservative Party of Canada is a federal party.
-People vote for them in federal elections.

Paul = Dumbass, get it?

Not to sound as harsh,

-MP(Member of Parliament)-Federal
-MLA(Member of the Legislative Assembly)-Provincial

Ridings have MP's and constituencies have MLA's, they do not affect each other. Everyone in each province has one for both representing them.

"Higher education is linked to voting for the Liberals. In fact, people with university degrees are one of the few segments in which the Liberals are ahead (38% to 30% for the Wildrose Alliance)."

It doesn't surprise me, but then the social views indoctrinated by students at most universities is old hat. I would be curious to know the age group percentages of the higher educated people in this poll and also to see how they answered.

Well thank you for the insult .

Truth be told if you looked over the whole post you would see that i actually asked about that ,because i was unsure thank you again for being so rude for nothing .

I alway's thought your provincial govornment was directly related to the number of seat's in the house and the more seat's you had the majority would form the federal govornment ...guess i was wrong .

thank you knacker i appreaciate your kindness, I am not extreme and i do not judge and if i gave you that impression i am sorry ."hate the sin not the sinner" that is how i feel. i tolorate i do not accept .

Paul in calgary .

I came to the conclusion a number of years ago that the world is divided into leaders and followers. The trick is having an effective instrument for making the leaders accountable to those motivated enough to want change. Grass roots movements are the bane of the entrenched forces who want to maintain their status within the ruling minority. Some of us who have supported the WRP from inception think it is the provincial child of the Reform Party. If Preston had not gone East as he thought he had to, where would we be today? Many of us thought that a federal Reform Party with provincial affiliates would have achieved the change we wanted.