"Bomb-sniffing dogs on Vancouver transit worry Muslim leader."
It's a wonderful world we live in.
Posted by Kate at December 10, 2009 5:58 PM"I say we train some pigs" - ooh Kate, that's perfect, lol! Brilliant, actually!
Posted by: Soccermom at December 10, 2009 6:07 PMNotice the cowardly chicken$hit CBC closed the story to commenting. I can't imagine the comments would have been all that sympathetic.
Posted by: Edward Teach at December 10, 2009 6:12 PMPerhaps Muslims could stop smelling like bombs?
Ok I am driving to the BC HRC right now no need to send the RCMP...
Dogs are much dirtier than bomb residue.
This story is closed to comments.... I wonder why that is?
Posted by: wuberman at December 10, 2009 6:16 PMYeah when in Rome.....
The french use pigs to find truffles...so in a left-handed way (politically correct then) there is a precedent of tradition.....
Or have the dogs wear pork-chops around their necks.
Posted by: robins111 at December 10, 2009 6:16 PMObviously goats are out of the question.
Posted by: The Spoonman at December 10, 2009 6:17 PMHa!
Simple solution: all Muslims so offended should just stay off the transit system and use taxis instead.
Problem solved! And the local taxi industry gets a boost!
Always glad to help.
(Maybe Muslim taxi-drivers could offer some sort of special VANOC rate to their co-religionists?)
Posted by: JJM at December 10, 2009 6:21 PMNotice how quick they are to explain that the dogs won't be able to detect narcotics. Only in Vancouver would that be a touchy subject: the taxpayer-funded users probably outnumber the police.
Posted by: Taylor at December 10, 2009 6:22 PMYears ago, Frank Zappa suggested "aerosol pork grenades" as a guaranteed method to stop armed conflict in the Middle East... I say, let's give it a test run here in Canada at some of the anti-Israel gatherings.
Posted by: djb at December 10, 2009 6:22 PMWhat about seeing-eye dogs on public transit? Does the Muslim community object? And what about the average everyday person with their pet? Are they to be denied the right to use public transit?
Posted by: ET at December 10, 2009 6:24 PM"Notice how quick they are to explain that the dogs won't be able to detect narcotics. Only in Vancouver would that be a touchy subject: the taxpayer-funded users probably outnumber the police."
Actually, the police are probably just being pragmatic; if the dogs were dual-trained to go for narcotics as well, the transit system would grind to a halt...
Posted by: JJM at December 10, 2009 6:24 PMJJM,
You do not have to be a dog to detect the smell of narcotics on people riding the Skytrain.
I would be worried about the health of the dog sniffing all the people.
Posted by: Illiquid Assets at December 10, 2009 6:28 PM"And what about the average everyday person with their pet? Are they to be denied the right to use public transit?"
Of course, silly! Average everyday persons are of no account whatsoever.
In other words: shut up and pay your taxes!
Posted by: JJM at December 10, 2009 6:28 PMIf they hate dogs so much why is Iraq so full of em? They're everywhere.
Besides, why is this even a story?
Posted by: langmann at December 10, 2009 6:32 PMAren't the dogs working for the pigs? (Not funny, I know)
Posted by: Regular poster boy at December 10, 2009 6:33 PMYeah, well, Muslims on any Transit worry me.
Posted by: FAA067 at December 10, 2009 6:40 PMJJM, I think the idea is that if a dog indicates "trouble aboard" an individual, the police don't want to be throwing said trouble maker to the ground and tasering the crap out of him looking for drugs, when what the dog was trying to say is that the trouble maker has a kilo of C4 stuck up his ass.
Pigs have quite a good sense of smell... I imagine the objections would be fierce.
Thanks to the CBC for limiting our obvious objections, clearly we can't be trusted to keep our tone nuanced.
Posted by: marc in calgary at December 10, 2009 6:41 PM"JJM, I think the idea is that if a dog indicates 'trouble aboard' an individual, the police don't want to be throwing said trouble maker to the ground and tasering the crap out of him looking for drugs, when what the dog was trying to say is that the trouble maker has a kilo of C4 stuck up his ass."
Well exactly. Whence my comment about police pragmatism.
I notice he mentioned that they pray 5 times a day. Why is it they NEVER EVER mention that the 10 times a day (pre & post for each prayer) that is in between the prayers they are the lying cheating and blowing up -est people on the face of the earth.
Posted by: Bob Devine at December 10, 2009 6:47 PMBomb-sniffing: Alternative career choices for soon-to-be-out-of-work scientist thermomongers?
Posted by: b_C at December 10, 2009 6:48 PMIf they are that scared of dogs, maybe they should think about moving back to the middle east.
Posted by: minuteman at December 10, 2009 6:50 PMBad comment The Spoonman. This is not the place to talk about sexual preferences.
Posted by: Bob Devine at December 10, 2009 6:51 PMMuslims are just gonna have to give up some of there very, very weird religous hang-ups if they want to function normally in secular western democracy or move back from whence they came.
Posted by: daveinguelph at December 10, 2009 6:54 PMIn my childhood I would have said "tough titty".
But let's look at this:
They don't like women (not really)
and they don't like dogs.
Will someone explain to me why they're in this country?
Maybe Immigration could add one more question to the list.
Yeah, well, of course bomb-sniffing dogs on Vancouver transit worry a Muslim leader: He knows that at some point there are likely to be Muslims with bombs on public transport and, natch, he'd rather there not be dogs on board to catch them out.
As for me and my house, I'm relieved to know there are bomb-sniffing dogs on public transit in a Canadian city. Maybe we could get some here in Toronto.
I'm getting to the point where a Muslim leader's being worried or offended about anything just makes me smile.
Posted by: batb at December 10, 2009 7:02 PMThat,gellen,is THE question.Can we force them to go live with all the lefturds that want them here?
Posted by: Justthinkin at December 10, 2009 7:06 PMLet us see now,
Why would it be that of the entire world, the citizens of Vancouver have decided that to have a dog sniff around the public transportation is going to have some effect on something?
There are some possibilities that come to mind.
One of them is not safety, for unless you have a dog per train and a dog per bus, you are not preventing the imaginary terrorists or rather human caused disasters or some such.
So it must be that there is a need for useless jobs in Vancouver area, this is likely the main reason.
Another reason must be that the citizens of Vancouver have this nagging feeling that they don’t pay enough taxes. This may be true due to the fact that the local and provincial governments have no money of their own, they of course must suck it out of the Vancouver plebeians and the plebeians are not happy with paying less, they obviously prefer to pay much more.
It is also true that the said governments (the plebeians think that it is not them) owe a whole lot of big monies to the bad big banks.
Now since the plebeians and their rulers have this warm feeling for spending money they don’t have, maybe they should hire as many dogs as there are public transportation vehicles.
Think of the job creation, the trainers, the handlers, the “care givers”, the kennels, this could positively lead to full employment in Vancouver. Nobody without a job. Could be unionized. Could go on strike, first thing just to get the feel of it.
Where the money would come from? You ask. What money.
The real problem they have with this is that dogs are great judges of character.
Posted by: Rednik at December 10, 2009 7:06 PMPolice dogs that are trained specifically, are trained for either drugs or bombs, not both.
Drug dogs are trained to wag their tails and act excited. Bomb dogs are trained to run fast & far.
That goes with the T shirt that EOD techs wear.
"I am a bomb disposal expert, If you see me running follow me as fast as you can."
Cool - by having 4 dogs I can rest assured that I am in a Muslim free zone. I can also guarantee that 3 of the 4 would jump up and lick them. Hoorah for dog germs!
Could I be hauled away for that comment?
Posted by: anne (not from Cornwall) at December 10, 2009 7:18 PMregarding muzzies and unclean dogs, true story:
I'm out with my dear Choochette, a beautiful hound-shepherd mix and what ho, mr muzzie, mrs muzzie and all the little muzzies. so I look at them with a "dogs unclean eh? watch this" and plant a big wet one right on her snout.
re muzzie cabbies and ANY dogs I EVER own, when I call a cab I ALWAYS specify 'don't send a muslim driver'. if they want to pick and choose who rides in their car, I'm gonna pick and choose whose car I ride in regardless if the dog is with me or not.
and too goddamm bad if they take offense at being sniffed out. THEY are the ones toting the bombs.
Illiquid assets says-"Perhaps Muslims could stop smelling like bombs?" Too funny,and too pratical.
Posted by: wallyj at December 10, 2009 7:33 PM"But the big winner is the rabbi, a recent arrival from Brooklyn who is working hard (against tough odds) to bring his Lubavitch movement to Montana. He has been scouring the state for anyone who can speak Hebrew, and is elated to have found a German shepherd he can talk to."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/us/05religion.html
:)
Posted by: DaninVan at December 10, 2009 7:35 PMThis comes down to whether the state has to accomodate every extreme quirk of every religon, especially in terms of security.
There is a difference between tolerance and exception. \if dogs are the best tool and if their task requires them to get close then so be it....if that means that person "a" has to change or wash again then fine. There are so many things on the unclean list of devout muslims that them being in any public place puts them at risk....its their list and their choice to follow whatever rituals they follow.
Sure the police should talk with them,agree to nothing and proceed. I doubt the dogs touch anyone, unless they smell explosive residue.
Posted by: Stephen at December 10, 2009 7:36 PMThis comes down to whether the state has to accomodate every extreme quirk of every religon, especially in terms of security.
There is a difference between tolerance and exception. \if dogs are the best tool and if their task requires them to get close then so be it....if that means that person "a" has to change or wash again then fine. There are so many things on the unclean list of devout muslims that them being in any public place puts them at risk....its their list and their choice to follow whatever rituals they follow.
Sure the police should talk with them,agree to nothing and proceed. I doubt the dogs touch anyone, unless they smell explosive residue.
Posted by: Stephen at December 10, 2009 7:36 PMThis so simple.
If Shawket Hassan, the vice-president of the B.C. Muslim Association is nervous about bomb sniffing dogs on our transit= do not travel on our transit.
So simple *sigh*
Posted by: zilla at December 10, 2009 7:37 PM"Some devout Muslims consider dogs to be unclean animals and try to avoid any contact with them."
Hey ,the dogs aren't too crazy about it either.
Horny Toad
Posted by: Horny Toad at December 10, 2009 7:45 PMhas there ever been a group of people that are so offended by every trivial thing yet have havent the slightest clue when they offend everyone else ie beheading ,stoning , general taxi hygiene
Posted by: cal2 at December 10, 2009 7:48 PM"JJM, I think the idea is that if a dog indicates "trouble aboard" an individual, the police don't want to be throwing said trouble maker to the ground and tasering the crap out of him"
Why not, aren't they looking for any excuse at all to taser someone?
Horny Toad
Posted by: Horny Toad at December 10, 2009 7:49 PMInteresting undercurrents. Street dogs in sub-tropical and tropical regions are little more than a feces consuming skin bag home for various parasites. The roundworm is a common lodger and the eggs from them on the bottom of sandals are one of the reasons for "no shoes in the mosque", also the washing of feet, because if there are parasite eggs on the prayer rug and you rub your forehead on them the first result is unpleasant, unsightly, and as time passes, possibly very unhealthy.
Some sources also suggest that the semi-stray neighbourhood dog packs tolerated in the mid-east to this day as "stranger approaching" alarms were particularly loud anytime Mohammed showed up and he never forgave their assessment of him as an intruder up to no good.
The profession of taxi driver is ideal for a devout muslim because he can manage his prayer breaks himself during his shifts. Refusing to transport dogs, alcohol, etc is just a way to show his peers what a tower of strength they have in their midst.
Interesting point about that other feces consumer, the domestic pig. Unlike the dog, the stricture against Porky is said to be narrower, in that one may not consume same. That would seem to allow one to be a mover in the raising, slaughtering, and selling of same to infidels, but perhaps being overly engaged with pigs and infidels would not be very circumspect as time passed.
Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at December 10, 2009 7:55 PMKate and her Shaggy Dog stories...
Posted by: Drained Brain at December 10, 2009 8:02 PMI am a "hobby farmer" also known as a farmer that has both people trying to make ends meet while hanging on. We raise wieners and would never risk our bacon on a truffle hunt in Vancouver but our German Shepherd "Tracker" has no bias ,deer,wolves,bombs,drugs,or fools he will eagerly find,drop and hold.Is there an Olympic medal for that?
Posted by: janet at December 10, 2009 8:04 PMET asks: "Does the Muslim community object?"
Does the Pope s**t in the woods?
"This is a step we would support, but … we would like to be informed," he said.
This is the soft show jihad that seeks simple accommodation for 7th Century cultural practices that have no place in a modern society.
Of course the whole dog program is another taxpayer funded fake job scheme. It will go through money like these dogs on bowl of Alpo. and guess what we get when the Alpo is gone?
Posted by: Rob @ dailyrasp at December 10, 2009 8:04 PMTypo Correction: This is the soft shoe jihad that seeks simple accommodation for 7th Century cultural practices that have no place in a modern society.
Posted by: Rob @ dailyrasp at December 10, 2009 8:07 PMWell, I like dogs.
Posted by: Fred at December 10, 2009 8:10 PMI blame Gordon Campbell, VANOC, Transit,etc.for this travesty on multiculturalism!
If we had known about this situation a few years back, we could have started work on a new Skytrain and bus system especially for Muslims,complete with specially trained bomb-sniffer camels.
On behalf of all British Columbians, I apologize to fundamentalist Muslims.
Posted by: dmorris at December 10, 2009 8:16 PMThe headline should be reversed.
"Muslim leaders on Vancouver Transit worry bomb sniffing dog."
Posted by: gord at December 10, 2009 8:25 PMSomewhere, in an alternate universe, there's a headline "Lack of alcohol concerns secular Christians in Saudi Arabia"
Posted by: Regular poster boy at December 10, 2009 8:25 PMthe consequences to livestock of caving in to muzzie preferences, an article about live sheep exports from New Zealand and Australia to saudi arabia, where halal reigns supreme:
3w.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?l=1&t=0&id=35031
p.s. the thing about 'dogs unclean' came from the prophet getting outed by all the barking dogs whenever he tried to sneak into an unfamiliar area.
I was going to make a comment along the lines of "This is a case of the tools wagging the dogs", but I couldn't think of anything funny.
Posted by: KevinB at December 10, 2009 8:33 PMdo we in Canuckistan really want to cater to this bunch?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
how would the bomb sniffing dog indicate this dude?
speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/faceoftheprophet/images/cartoon-turbanbomb.jpg
I still miss every doggie I no longer have and have a time or 2 gone without to ensure they are fed. I can afford to lose the pounds, but they are like dependent children to me.
mohammad was a pedophile. google it.
I"ve been told that my call for a moratorium on Muslim immigration isn't "mainstream" and would never garner general public support.
Your thoughts...?
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at December 10, 2009 8:51 PMOnly Gellen came close to touching upon the next part to this story:
First objections are raised to having police dogs.
Then, as sure as the sun rises over Mecca, there WILL be objections to having policewomen.
Just imagine the scenario where a female police officer "dares" question a Fundamentalist Male Muslim. I can easily see the BC Human Wrongs Commission getting involved.
Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at December 10, 2009 8:56 PMI am gertting tired of being frisked at airports in the name of politically correct security. We should install muslim detectors; if they go off, then check them out.
Posted by: RW at December 10, 2009 9:05 PMWell the Muslim "leader" is "worried" about dogs is he? simple solution don't get on transit. Ride your donkey, walk buy a bicycle. Better yet if you don't like the way we conduct our affairs in Canada you are free to go back to wherever you came from, bon voyage! I guess I ain't "mainstream" either Kathy Shaidle but I am Canadian!
Cheers Bubba
Maybe the dogs could be trained to hump their legs instead.
Posted by: Edward Teach at December 10, 2009 9:24 PMFrankly, I'm nearing the point where I'm ready to demand that Canada ship them all back home.
Posted by: Brent at December 10, 2009 9:27 PM"Muslim leaders on Vancouver Transit worry bomb sniffing dog."
'Good one, gord!
Posted by: batb at December 10, 2009 9:36 PMState run media'article is closed to comments'How do you like that ,taxpayer subsidized propoganda disguised as news and no rebuttal allowed ..A billion dollars worth of constant horse *hit .The hidden agenda of unemployment for every CBC employee sounds good to me.
Posted by: greyburr at December 10, 2009 10:03 PM"Gentlemen of the jury, the best friend a man has in this world may turn against him and become his enemy. His son and daughter that he has reared with loving care may become ungrateful. Those who are nearest and dearest to us, those whom we trust with our happiness and our good name, may become traitors to their faith. The money that a man has he may lose. It flies away from him when he may need it most. Man's reputation may be sacrificed in a moment of ill considered action. The people who are prone to fall on their knees and do us honor when success is with us may be the first to throw the stone of malice when failure settles its cloud upon our head."
"The one absolutely unselfish friend that man can have in this selfish world, the one that never deserts him, the one that never proves ungrateful or treacherous, is his DOG. A man's dog stands by him in prosperity and in poverty, in health and in sickness. He will sleep on the cold ground,where the wintry winds blow and the snow drives fiercely, if only he may be near his master's side. He will kiss the hand that has no food to offer, he will lick the wounds and sores that come in encounter with the roughness of the world. He guards the sleep of his pauper master as if he were a prince. When all other friends desert, he remains. When riches take wing and reputation falls to pieces, he is as constant in his love as the sun in its journey through the heavens. If fortune drives the master forth an outcast into the cold, friendless and homeless, the faithful dog asks no higher privilege than that of accompanying him to guard him against danger, and to fight against his enemies. When the last scene of all comes, and death takes his master in its embrace and his body is laid away in the cold ground, no matter if all other friends pursue their way, there by his graveside will the noble dog be found, his head between his paws and his eyes sad, but open in alert watchfulness, faithful and true even to death."
-Senator George Vest, 1870.
Dogs are a part of the lives we live over here. Don't like it? Here's something you need to make use of...
Posted by: Edward Teach at December 10, 2009 10:04 PM"If I am going to the mosque and pray, or doing something that way, and I have this saliva on my body … I have to go and change or clean," said Hassan.
He pointed out that devout Muslims pray five times a day, no matter where they are.
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If they can pray "no matter where they are", why do they have to go to the mosque?
Posted by: Gord at December 10, 2009 10:13 PMThey should be relieved when they see a cop with a dog. As long as he's holding a leash, his hands aren't free to taser them.
Posted by: dp at December 10, 2009 10:14 PMall the animals mentioned in the responses, goat, dogs, pigs, and donkey, reside here on the pharm, the only animal mentioned in here we don't have, is a taxis driver:-)))
Posted by: GYM at December 10, 2009 10:18 PMDon't laugh- Europeans use pigs to root out truffles. It's true.
Pigs, dogs, pig-dogs, dogs who have bees in their mouths- it's all good.
Dogs serve man. They are also cuddly. Islamofascists, not so.
Its not just the Muslims. Have a friend who's good friend was at a large Calgary shopping mall in the North East. She was attending a church service on a Sunday morning in a rented space in the mall and having only public restrooms, she exited the "church service" to use the facilities. She had to walk a little ways and the trip took her past a bench full of men who were in traditional Sikh garb. She said that the looks she got from them could have frozen water. Upon her return, as she approached these Sikhs, they stood up and encircled her and one of them started to yell at her and tell her she was dressed like a whore and that this kind of dress would not be tolerated in "their" mall and if she was seen again in this fashion, she would be "dealt with in a severe manner".
This shook her a great deal and has since not returned. She knew that they were serious and did not want to test them, not even for a second. Not sure why she didn't press charges, mostly it was to do with the he/said/she/said thing that the lawyers and judges so handily bring into the equation. Many voices against one, where is your proof?
It is only a matter of time before they outnumber us and then they will use this pink elephant we call democracy to jail us, kill us and throw us off the land that our forefathers broke and worked so these gangsta's can have a place to spread their lies and laws.
This is the kind of treatment we get for giving them a place to freely practice their religion, only the freedom will not be reciprocated. They just don't get it!!!!
Posted by: glacierman at December 10, 2009 10:37 PMKathy Shandle, I think it'll take a few more terrorist attacks here. I wish it wasn't this way.
Posted by: marc in calgary at December 10, 2009 10:57 PMDear Muslim community:
It has come to my attention that you are concerned about Vancouver Olympic security having sniffing dogs (are there any other kind?) sniffing people going to the Olympics.
Sorry to offend - BUT - we find it quite necessary to do so. You see these particular dogs are highly trained to sniff out people who are carrying EXPLOSIVE material or residue of EXPLOSIVE material on them.
Now contrary to some folks in some parts of the world - folks in this part of the world are actually allergic to EXPLOSIVE material. You see - EXPLOSIVE - material can, like peanuts for some, cause death. You might find this hard to believe but you must trust us on this one. There are documented instances when the aforementioned -EXPLOSIVE material has caused death. In fact one singly grouping of EXPLOSIVE material has been known to cause several deaths.
Now we have these amazing dogs who can actually sniff out those who accidentally have this EXPLOSIVE material entangled in their clothing. The doggy's job is to detect who these forgetfull people are and remind them that they have to leave that stuff at home.
Thank you for understanding.
Vancouver Olympic Security.
Our Motto: We're Looking Out for You.
Posted by: a different bob at December 10, 2009 10:58 PMI am with Cal2, after riding in a few muslim cabs, if a bit of dog saliva would force the cabby to go and clean himself, that can only be considered a good thing!!
Posted by: Reido at December 10, 2009 11:17 PMThis reminds me of the story from approximately 3 years ago of the suggeston that the Israelis train pigs to patrol the borderlands for suicide bombers. The proponent of the idea thought if the pig rubbed up against the non-Jewish invader they would at least be denied their virgin filled eternity. I think the Isrealis built a wall instead. More unemployed pork.
Posted by: farmerboy1 at December 10, 2009 11:22 PMIf they pray 5 times a day, wherever they are, perhaps that accounts for the # of accidents on highway 17? Also, dmorris, that skytrain could well be shuttling between Surrey and Surrey and back again. Also, also, a different bob -- some people are allergic to EXPLOSIVE material -- I know people who are, and not in a way some epi pen is going to save them.
Posted by: gobi desert at December 11, 2009 12:09 AMI vote for training bomb-sniffing lions and tigers!
Posted by: docduke at December 11, 2009 1:38 AMHow old were you when you stopped worrying about Cooties?
Posted by: Black Mamba at December 11, 2009 2:45 AMSimple....get rid of the Muslims and then you would`nt need sniffer dogs.
Posted by: Al W at December 11, 2009 2:46 AMThe thing that I find the most annoying is that someone feels the need to have bomb sniffing dogs. I seem to be in a minority in detesting the police state that this country has become; if muslims are the problem round them up and ship them back to where they came from. If they don't want to go shoot them. I can't believe that we've gone from a time when I could cycle in the city of Calgary with my 22 slung over my back on my way to go gopher hunting or that bomb making (with the bombs being set off safely in the bush outside of city limits) is no longer an accepted adolescent activity.
One of the reasons that I left Vancouver was because of the olympics as I had no intention of living in another police state. I had quite enough when cretin entertained other dictators at the APEC meeting when the whole area around St. Pauls hospital was surrounded by cretins goons who seemed to be wearing RCMP uniforms. Initial plans cut St. Pauls off from vehicle access and that was quickly corrected when there was public outrage, but Burrard street crossing was to be only when cretin's goons allowed it. Doctors would put up with none of this BS and we'd walk across the middle of Burrard street heading for the hospital with a friendly upraised middle finger salute to the goons who would keep a crowd of people behind them from crossing the street for 15-20 minutes in anticipation of some dictators motorcade to whiz by. I did have the pleasure of seeing slick willy go by and gave him an upraised middle finger.
I suspect the situation in Vancouver is only going to be worse and I recently got an email from the College of Physicians that they're going to be effectively closed for the month of February since they are located in a zone one can't drive to. As soon as I found that the olympics were going to be in Vancouver I made immediate plans to vacate as only a masochist would want to live through something like that.
I've had a hard time restraining myself from booting drug sniffing dogs in the head while I've been waiting in Grayhound bus lineups when they invariably expressed some interest in my luggage. There was no cannabis there but for some reason they always had to check it out. I was never asked to open my bags and so the dogs probably had some obscure canine reason for their interest. In Vancouver one doesn't need drug sniffing dogs as the smell of cannabis is everywhere. The people who I saw getting busted at the bus station had no idea how to properly hide marijuana just throwing a bag of weed into their backpacks -- even I can smell that through all of the fabric.
I don't like having to drug myself into a stuporous state to go through airport security and even then it is very hard to resist making a forbidden comment or wondering if I'll be able to resist the urge to pound the crap out of some rentacop who is an unwitting statist tool. The few times that things have gotten ugly my hospital ID has magically changed attitudes of the airport security staff but I'm not sure how long I can get away with that.
I've ranted about being asked for a passport before getting on a plane and the young people who are carrying out this statist policy seem to have never heard of the need to have a travel pass to go anywhere in the former USSR and that the policy they are enforcing is identical to what we were fighing against a mere 20 years ago. This is the direction we are going and the sheeple seem to be doing nothing to stop it.
I'm not sure what bomb sniffing dogs are trained on but I suspect that if one took apart a few shotgun shells and dusted the powder around that this might arouse their interest -- somewhat like the Marijuana parties actions of spraying all of the vehicles on a ferry with cannabis extract to confuse drug sniffing dogs. I don't like being singled out because I've just been to the rifle range and have powder residue in high levels over my hands and my clothes.
I plan on being nowhere near Vancouver until the spring and then I'll be driving there which seems to be the only way that I can take along all the items that I might need while I'm travelling.
So rather than discussing why muslims are upset about bomb sniffing dogs, WTF are there so many muslims here in the first place?
Posted by: loki at December 11, 2009 2:54 AMGlacierman,
If she ever wants to go back to that mall on a Sunday, I know a group of folks that would be happy to escort her with me being amongst them.
I live in the NE and give directions to my house as "Head to the Mosque on Barlow, turn right. When the Sikhs start to outnumber the Muslims, turn left. Third house on the right."
Posted by: Sean at December 11, 2009 6:58 AMglacierman: "They just don't get it!!!!"
And neither do the dingbat, bleeding-heart, leftie Librano$ (and their camp followers) who opened the immigration floodgates to these Neanderthals, all the better to get their votes, my dear.
How about this motto? We were here first.
Posted by: batb at December 11, 2009 7:26 AMDude, buy a car or move to a muslim country.
Posted by: Aaron at December 11, 2009 8:40 AMI remember seeing a program a couple of years ago where the German Border Guards had a drug sniffing pig.
A. Pigs are way smart, easy to train and pleasnt to be around when trained.
B. They have a sense of smell that is at least as good as a dogs if not better.
See a 250 lb pig approach a 20ft stack of suitcases and just burrow in to find the one suitcase withthe drugs rather then 3-4 decoys was pretty impressive too.
Seeing the "persons of interest" getting a sniff test was pretty funny too, a biggish pig snorfling you is pretty intimidating.
Seeing the German shepards dogs giving the thing sidewise glances was pretty funny too.
Posted by: Fred2 at December 11, 2009 8:42 AM"If they hate dogs so much why is Iraq so full of em? They're everywhere." Posted by: langmann
This is just another opportunity to stick something in the eye of non muslims. Intolerance.
Posted by: Sounder at December 11, 2009 9:03 AMIf the dogs keep Muslims off public transportation, how is that not a win for the good guys?
Posted by: Dudley Morris at December 11, 2009 9:46 AMIn the spirit of loving PC cooperation with our Muslim brothers, couldn't we have bomb sniffing ponies? Nice fuzzy ones with little saddles. They could give rides to the little kids while they patrol for pipe bombs.
Or yaks. Nice fluffy bomb sniffing yaks. With ribbons on them.
Camels, maybe. Emus? Bomb sniffing bison? (Can you get a bison on and off a city bus?)
Or we could just stop looking for bombs. Immediately remove dogie bomb sniffer service for any place that objects to dogs.
And advertise widely that the area was NOT being patrolled. Put up signs, "Enter at your own considerable risk." For the English challenged you could have the picture of the dog sniffing a bomb with the big red circle and line thing. Maybe a picture of a bomb with a green circle.
Possibly dogie tolerance levels would improve after the third or fourth explosion.
Posted by: The Phantom at December 11, 2009 10:41 AMWhat Al W said!
Posted by: Regular poster boy at December 11, 2009 11:14 AMYa know, if there was a bomb registry, well wouldn't that take care of the problem?
Posted by: gobi desert at December 11, 2009 11:15 AMOnly if it cost more than two billion dollars, gobi. And if they put it in East Moose Antler NFLD.
That's a little east of West Moose Antler, y'know.
Posted by: The Phantom at December 11, 2009 11:31 AM"Muslims consider dogs to be UNCLEAN!"
"I'm not responsible for YOUR prejudices, pal, only my own."
I noticed that there are 3 articles on the CBC site regarding security on the transit system in Vancouver during the Olympics. One is in respect to Bomb-sniffing dogs, the other is Drug-sniffing Dogs-which was deemed illegal by the supreme court to allow random public use of rug sniffing dogs. The last was in respect to a female being raped on the transit.
The wider issue is our rights as citizens, there was also another article on the CBC site in respect to citizens watching others and reporting suspicious behavior. The Olympics could be used to bring us closer to a police state and quasi civilian security force akin to the one that BHO wants to bring in down south - the difference will be Canadians will not be paid for joining.
I am in agreement with bomb-sniffing dogs, but not drug-sniffing dogs.
Posted by: noticed at December 11, 2009 12:44 PMnoticed, do you think drug-sniffing dogs stop sniffing for drugs when they go off duty?
Posted by: The Phantom at December 11, 2009 12:55 PMPhantom, dogs never go off duty.
They do what they're trained to do as a lifestyle and training/work is the same as play for them.
If the dogs keep Muslims off public transportation, how is that not a win for the good guys?
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Dogs are not allowed on Vancouver buses and trains unless they are guide dogs or are in a carrying cage.
http://www.translink.ca/en/Rider-Info/Pets-on-Transit.aspx
Posted by: David at December 11, 2009 1:57 PMMaybe they could use goats.
Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at December 11, 2009 4:37 PM"noticed, do you think drug-sniffing dogs stop sniffing for drugs when they go off duty?" Possibly,the 'truthers' believe that bomb sniffers do,in fact they believe that bomb sniffers only detect bombs that are planted on their shift.
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