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November 30, 2009

Quirks And Quarks

The embargo* lifts!

I reckon Vince Carlin's inbox was dripping blood after the pounding it got over the weekend.


(*Clarification - I was referring to the embargo on publishing comments on the Bob McDonald article.)

Posted by Kate at November 30, 2009 4:36 PM
Comments

Commie Boosting Crap and its apologists probably also believe that throwing virgins into volcanos stopped solar eclipes as well.

Posted by: Mike T at November 30, 2009 4:54 PM

Thank goodness the eminiently un-qualified Bob McDonald has decreed that it is safe for us to ignore the reasoned, rational questioning of observers like Steve McIntyre in favor of the falsehoods spewed by the ilk of Michael Mann. I, for one, always want the opinion of one classically trained in the hard sciences of theater, English, and philosophy (see Wikipedia) when attempting to sort out scientific controversies.

Posted by: Shawn at November 30, 2009 4:56 PM

Gosh. Bob McDonald appears to be a bit of a chump.

Posted by: JJM at November 30, 2009 4:56 PM

Or a chimp.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 30, 2009 5:04 PM

"Quirks and Quarks"? More like "Dicks and Dorks".

Posted by: Karl at November 30, 2009 5:05 PM

Bob McDonald.....aka "Baghdad Bob"

Of course, any comments you try to post on his story (if they are negative to his propaganda) will simply not be posted by the "moderator".

Posted by: John at November 30, 2009 5:05 PM

Wow, check out the comments there.
There is CBC blood on the floor now.

Posted by: Vitruvius at November 30, 2009 5:08 PM

Those "green" jobs that the climate fraudsters always go on about? Bob has one of them. He'd be out of work otherwise.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at November 30, 2009 5:10 PM

Well . . sort of lifts.

the CBC N-E-W-S groupies, our ever so smart progressive masters, encamped in the Liberal bastion of downtown Toronto, still don't believe we are deserving of the truth, that we can handle the truth, that the truth matters.

The CBC news embargo continues, full speed ahead.

CBC News . . . you bunch of pinheaded socialist latte liberal douche-heads . . . its you that CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

Posted by: Fred at November 30, 2009 5:12 PM

"Gorrie also says, sympathetically, that climate scientists 'resent having to respond to skeptics.' Well, who the hell doesn’t? That’s like saying that prosecutors resent the threat of having unfairly acquired evidence excluded from the courtroom, or that ballplayers resent the danger of getting picked off first base. They can resent it all they like, but it’s there in the rules of the game, for good reasons.

Q: What do you call a scientist who can’t accept criticism from 'skeptics'?

A: Anything you like, as long as it’s not 'scientist'."

- Colby Cosh

Posted by: JJM at November 30, 2009 5:12 PM

Every place The AGW boosters attempt to minimize this scandal they get pounded in the comments.
Excuse me? there are cracks showing in the foundations of your fantasy.
I think we may have to spend money on mental hospitals as the koolaid drinkers begin to wake up.

Posted by: orvict at November 30, 2009 5:12 PM

comments are turning into a flood. I love this: Greenwashing!! Science is about fact , not consensus.

Posted by: hardboiled at November 30, 2009 5:16 PM

Did my duty. Blasted Vince Carlin and Bob Mcdonald. We'll see, Vince already hates me. Bagdad Bob. Hilarious John at..

Posted by: RCGZ at November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

Every place The AGW boosters attempt to minimize this scandal they get pounded in the comments.
Excuse me? there are cracks showing in the foundations of your fantasy.
I think we may have to spend money on mental hospitals as the koolaid drinkers begin to wake up.
Please help those disenchanted souls by sending them the following link.http://home.att.net/~velvet-hammer/grief.html

Posted by: orvict at November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

I think that to declare that a gas,CO2, that is absolutely essential for life to exist on this planet, a pollutant is one of the most vile things that I have heard of.For the uneducated,no CO2 for plants equals no oxygen for people.

Posted by: spike 1 at November 30, 2009 5:26 PM

Kate, perhaps you'd like to publish this audio from CKNW's Bill Good this morning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lu5Tr20kFc

It'll give your many readers outside of B.C. a small taste of the idiocy that those of us here on the Left Coast have to deal with on a regular basis!

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 30, 2009 5:41 PM

Peter will have this "incident" on The National, from The Hill with a full-page spread by Garff and AbNormal, er... wrong medium.

Bob will put up another rebuttal.

Giggles will air Gibbs' "incident" at the
GlobPail on her Farcebook.

CVT will vie (neat MSM word) for ratings with this headline:
CRU CookBook "unearthed by a blogger".
...-

"Gibbs: Despite research dispute, 'climate change is happening'
The Hill ^

The White House on Monday made exceptionally clear that it wants nothing to do with the furor over documents that global warming skeptics say prove the phenomenon is not a threat.

Despite the incident, which rocked international headlines last week, climate science is sound, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs stressed this afternoon, and the White House nonetheless believes "climate change is happening."

"I don't think that's anything that is, quite frankly, among most people, in dispute anymore," he said during Monday's press briefing.

Climate change skeptics have asserted over the past week that the publication of more than 1,000 private e-mails and documents once housed in the University of East Anglia's computer system refutes most modern global warming evidence.

The documents, unearthed by a blogger who hacked into Climate Research Unit's (CRU) private system, have since touched off an international debate over the veracity of those scientists' works.

But the dispute is proving especially troublesome for the Obama administration as it prepares to head to Copenhagen next week for a climate change summit -- a forum the president will attend.

Not only has the White House faced criticism from the left for offering too few concessions ahead of the meet, it is now fielding dissatisfaction from the right for participating in a summit sponsored in part by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) -- one of the research organs touched by the CRU spat.

"I think there's no real scientific basis for the dispute of this," responded Gibbs to questions about those scientists' credibility.

Nevertheless, congressional Republicans this week hope to ramp up their criticism of both global warming policy and the science that informs it.

Most vocal seems to be Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), the ranking member of the Environment and Public Works Committee. Inhofe demanded on Friday a hearing into the IPCC's research to determine whether it "cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not."

"[T]his thing is serious, you think about the literally millions of dollars that have been thrown away on some of this stuff that they came out with," he told reporters, noting it was "interesting" the e-mails surfaced before the Copenhagen summit."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2397096/posts

Posted by: maz2 at November 30, 2009 5:42 PM

Baghdad Bob. . . . puuuurfect.

"There are no global warming deniers in Copenhagen"

Posted by: Fred at November 30, 2009 5:43 PM

Sorry for the confusion - the Q&Q article was mentioned several times over the weekend by readers who noted no comments had been published. That's the "embargo" I meant.

Posted by: Kate at November 30, 2009 5:45 PM

Indeed, "Bob McDonald appears to be a bit of a chump".
A disappointment. And "illegal release"
of emails - rather than a whistleblower blowing
the whistle. Is it a fault to reveal the serious
faults of others?

Anyway, let's cut to the chase. If it is so easy to
predict the future, why were the predictions of
this last season's hurricane activity so badly off?
Where is the sea level rise we've been promised
these last twenty years? In coastal areas a rise
of six inches is BIG. A friend of mine once worked for
DPW on a model of ... I think it was
Lake Erie. He said that a rise of six inches
around the lake would reduce property values by
a billion dollars. Those are 1968 dollars -
a billion dollars then was real money.

So instead of blathering away about how mean
everyone is to them, and coming up with scare scenarios,
the advocates of AGW should show us the beef.
Three years of predictions that show skill
and we'll all be true believers - even if Michael Mann uses voodoo
to get those predictions.

Posted by: John Lewis at November 30, 2009 5:48 PM

To paraphrase Brian Mulroney: "There's no whore like a Green whore." These guys will say ANYTHING, do ANYTHING to keep that Green lolly coming in. Lies, Damn Lies and Green Statistics

Posted by: lyle bert at November 30, 2009 5:50 PM

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/11/oh_my_another_warming_advocate.html

watch for more of these.

Posted by: orvict at November 30, 2009 5:53 PM

I did my duty as well and had a go on that blog. Bob is not a scientist, just a shill. We'll see how thick a skin that denialist has.

Posted by: Allen at November 30, 2009 5:58 PM

Bill Good is an A+ Warmonger but he's wavering.

Norman Spector ripped a few buttholes today . . especially the moron from the Tyee who kept using the denier label. Spector called him a Fascist on air and like a good little socialist he just STFU.

Spector also made some good remarks about PMSH protecting Canada etc etc.

He's almost a Realist, Bill Good is tormented by his years of shilling for David Suzuki et al.

Drip, drip drip. The acid of truth erodes away the wall of lies, deceptions and crapolla "science" that the whole IPCC ponzi scheme really is.


Drip, drip, drip.

Posted by: Fred at November 30, 2009 6:31 PM

Looking at the Q&Q comments is revealing. They are heavily in favour of AGW. Funny, almost any uncensored MSM comment page on the web, the ratios of pro and anti are quire reversed.

Posted by: RW at November 30, 2009 6:31 PM

whizbang bobby never got the report of Indias scientists using the discredited computer programs for monsoon forecasting, of PAST monsoons and failing completely!

Posted by: reg dunlop at November 30, 2009 6:40 PM

Your server must be getting hammered. For a few minutes, I couldn't access the site. Had to go do the dishes instead. :(

Anyway, I wanted to ask you if you posted the comments at 12.25 pm, Nov. 28. They were posted by a "Kate" and are absolutely spectacular. Several of the posters are ripping Bob MacDonald's apologies all to shreds. If the "Kate" was you, it's the best comment I've read so far. Lots still to go, though.

Posted by: Louise at November 30, 2009 6:41 PM

I read some of the comments. Those 'believers' are like zombies. One of them stated that we should discuss opinions but accept facts .. and that Anthropogenic Global Warming was indeed a fact.

That level of stupidity give me the chills.

Bob McDonald is either a lot more stupid than he is supposed to be or he is a coward trying keep his cool gig a scientist. Gag me for Christ's sake.

Posted by: Jake at November 30, 2009 6:43 PM

Speaking of Bob MacDonald, he and Suzuki remind me of the old adage: "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach." Substitute "broadcast" for "teach".

Posted by: Louise at November 30, 2009 6:56 PM

"Resolution: "Climate change is mankind's defining crisis, and demands a commensurate response."

The case for: Elizabeth May and George Monbiot

The case against: Bjørn Lomborg and Nigel Lawson

THE MUNK DEBATES: Dec. 1, 2009, 6:45 to 9:00 p.m., The Royal Conservatory, 273 Bloor St. West, Toronto
Ticketing and event location information "

Gawd I would love to attend and heckle Tizzie Lizzie.

Posted by: Fred at November 30, 2009 7:07 PM

CBC embargo lifted on Truth ads.

BTW, Relic is back on ch5 with Iffy in a cameo from a green forest.
The title: "Just Visiting".
..-

"CBC to allow political ads outside election periods"

"The issue came to light this summer after the CBC refused to air the Conservative party's ads opposing Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff."

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/allow+political+outside+election+periods/2286702/story.html

Posted by: maz2 at November 30, 2009 7:11 PM

Fred, you heard the program this morning too? I was pleasantly surprised to hear caller after caller after caller not putting up with Good & Paulson's B.S.

And yes, it was beyond glorious when Norman Spector called Paulson a FASCIST on-air.

I'm not Jewish but I've long been disturbed by the use of the word "Denier", which was clearly designed to associate GW skeptics with Holocaust Deniers. This is despicable.

But if one wants to be brutally honest, who are the "deniers" nowadays?

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 30, 2009 7:12 PM

Robert @ 7:12, we can add "genocide" as well to the list of hijacked words that, sadly, diminish the holocaust.

Posted by: Louise at November 30, 2009 7:21 PM

I'm shocked ... my message (using the handle "Spatch") actually was posted at the Quirks article. There's a lot of unfriendly postings there.

Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at November 30, 2009 7:22 PM

Rob W in Van . . .

Ya I got a chance to listen to MMQB . . . I have been over on Norman's blog having some discussions with him, having some fun too :)

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/nspector4/Column/

I think it is working - Norman is coming around and Bill is just a confused Believer who is very troubled that his Green Global Warming God is a fraud. He's really struggling - I actually laughed out loud a few times.

When he called that Tyee socialist moonbat dickhead a Fascist on air and there was nada response. SWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEET. A great moment in Talk Radio.

You can help me out over at Norman's site . . . carrot & stick, carrot & stick.


Cheers . . .

Where in Van are you at ?


Posted by: Fred at November 30, 2009 7:26 PM

Check out the current Toronto weather from the Ombudsman page:

Toronto 27.4°c Partly Cloudy; Tomorrow 28°c Sunny

Heh.

Posted by: PabloNH at November 30, 2009 7:26 PM

Too funny . . . no wonder CBC is so f'ked up. Their ombudsman can't even look up the weather forecast.

Good candidate for the Daily Moonbat Award.

FYI . . . flurries are forecast over the next few days.

Posted by: Fred at November 30, 2009 7:30 PM

I had a modicum of respect for Bob MacDonald prior to reading this. Disappointing to see him channeling Al Gore.

MacDonald must have made a heavy career investment in this hoax.

Posted by: Bart F. at November 30, 2009 7:39 PM

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! Last paragraph in a comment from a Travis MacPherson: BTW, I drive a Prius, am an atheist, vote NDP. I just know that something stinks in the whole AGW story... and that stinking is the control the UN will have if Copenhagen is ratified...

In other words, "I'm one of you, so don't go and try discount my views".

Anyway, good to see that a Prius driving atheist (what ever the he!! that has to do with anything) Dipper smells something rotten. I wonder if Jack Laytoon will lose his vote next round.

Posted by: Louise at November 30, 2009 7:42 PM

Just checked Carlin's site. Has he ever ruled in favour of anyone who disagreed with mother corpse? I don't ever recall any of his decisions that went against the CBC.

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at November 30, 2009 7:43 PM

Just received;

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I write to acknowledge receipt of your e-mail. It is the customary practice of CBC’s Office of the Ombudsman to share complaints with the relevant programmers, who have the right to respond first to criticism of their work. I have therefore shared your e-mail with Jennifer McGuire, General Manager and Editor in Chief of CBC News. If you are not satisfied with the response you receive you may ask me to review the matter.

Sincerely,

Vince Carlin
CBC Ombudsman

----------------------

How about; ' If I am not satisfied with the response, I along with other Canadians can withhold the annual $Billion dollar payment to CBC '.

Posted by: ron in kelowna ∴ at November 30, 2009 7:44 PM

This has to prove that he never bothered to investigate or read the CRU e-mails, he states, "climate science stands on a firm footing of rigorous research and appropriately skeptical peer review, not on what people say privately through emails or chatting over the water coolers, ". Even a cursory read through shows that peer review and rigorous research are meaningless phrases to the CRU and that simply has to poison anything they have to say or offer in their databases.

Posted by: KimW at November 30, 2009 7:46 PM

If he drives a Prius, he must be one of the few NPD'ers with a job.

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at November 30, 2009 7:46 PM

BREAKING . .

ClimateGate gets its first scalp

Rudd in Australia.

Norman, looks like Rudd has REALLY big trouble . . . can you imagine Iggy doing something parallel here and the fighting an election on Climate Change ?

Put the butter on Rudd . . . he's toast.

ClimateGate gets its first scalp.

Abbott in, Turnbull out ETS DEAD AS DOORNAIL :)

http://tinyurl.com/y94vblf

Looks like an election . . . on Climate Change.

Perfect timing.

Posted by: Fred at November 30, 2009 7:49 PM

I am pleasantly surprised to see the full list of comments published, I was one complaining yesterday that none were available. I'm also surprised by the number disagreeing with his story, including my own. Obviously the readers are not limited to what CBC news reports, a story this big cannot be hidden for long. Also tonight, CTV Tom Clark included the first mention of the story,I heard, by the Conservative strategist, Rick Anderson.

Posted by: Martin at November 30, 2009 7:51 PM

Just a thought .. how will CBC explain the collapse of the Australian government over their ETS tax thingy without telling Canadians about ClimateGate?

Maybe they can bait & switch and discuss how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Anything, something except tell Canadians the truth about ClimatGate.

CBC . . . deep in a hole and digging furiously.

Posted by: Fred at November 30, 2009 7:57 PM

I suppose Bob McD would also agree that the wholly-without-credibility claims of Richard Colvin were "illegally made", in light of the latest known facts surrounding the controversy? Since they obviously are, would this then mean that, ergo, there cannot have been any torture? Of course, that would be illogical, but logic isn't something that Leftists are known to care about.

Nevertheless, the fact that he threw crap upon the exposure of the damning emails, etc., as "illegally released" shows his desperation to propagate against the absolutely 100% undeniable FACT that the whole agw/cc thing is finally dead, destroyed, six feet under. Of course, in the alternative, Mr. McD could simply be very ignorant and uninformed about Climategate.

Mr. McD and folks like him desperately want to carry on as if the "science is sound" when non-delusional, hard-proven-available-to-be-scrutinized-facts-focussed folks know that it ABSOLUTELY IS NOT SOUND!

Sheesh. Those many folks who pretend that the whole thing isn't wholly discredited and terminated have no more credibility than those who believe, without any credible evidence, that Bush had foreknowledge that 9/11 was going to take place.

You know, those who have scrupulously examined all the facts and non-facts surrounding the controversy of whether Obama actually does qualify under the Eligibility Clause to be President actually have a case, and know that there is NO evidence that Obama qualifies. Those who dismiss the eligibility question as B.S. themselves never saw any evidence to make the case that it's B.S. and only wish to believe that, of course, Obama must necessarily be eligible, because, of course, those responsible for verifying it (the DNC, actually!) necessarily did (there's evidence that they deliberately ignored the whole thing altogether and let Obama run anyway).

I marvel at the astonishing phenomenom that those who insist that the earth is warming (when they can see, if they bother to look, that it is NOT) and that the "science is sound" when we now know that it is NOT, are mostly the same folks who insist that Obama meets the Eligibility Requirements of the Constitution. NO ONE has ever produced any evidence whatsoever that it's the case (the COLB uttered online was NEVER AUTHENTICATED by alleged issuer Hawaii who refused to do so when asked, and was declared a fraud by an expert who also, because he's impartial, declared other alleged birth certificates to be frauds).

We must look at the evidence and lack thereof. It's absolutely wrong to simply accept that something is so just because one's told so.

Everywhere I look, I see delusional people. I see mass delusion. Apparently this is a part of human civilizational nature, stemming from human psychological nature. It'll always be like this, obviously.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at November 30, 2009 7:57 PM

probablt be rooting them out of caves and off islands like japanese soldiers after WWII

Posted by: orvict at November 30, 2009 8:10 PM

I always liked Bob MacDonald, having thought of him as more of an entertaining or kooky "Prof. Science". However, considering his employer's untenable stance taken, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to now see him posing as an expert on everything from British law to Canadian demographics. Allowing dissenting opinions on your blog may be commendable Mr. MacDonald, though still and all I find the moniker "Baghdad Bob" certainly conforms perfectly to your unenviable position at CBC.

Posted by: wingwalker at November 30, 2009 8:15 PM

Nice to see some Canadian traditions being maintained. Circling the wagons at the CBC, lying, denying, changing the subject, having a temper tantrum... all traditional in the Canadian privileged class.

Its the same dinosaur that's been shot in the @ss a hundred times these last eight years and the message still hasn't gotten up to the tiny little brain.

Yer busted, you bunch of button-down Toronto pansies. Bus-ted. We see you.

Posted by: The Phantom at November 30, 2009 8:16 PM

There hasn't been a new comment added to Q&Q site for about 4 hours now. I wonder if Baghdad Bob is hiding under his desk?

Posted by: Carter Hall at November 30, 2009 8:18 PM

Bill Good is a liar.

he says he only just found out. I don't know about anyone else, but I've e-mailed him for a week.

What a useful, limp, spineless carbon unit.....

Posted by: DanBC at November 30, 2009 8:18 PM

Hi Fred, I'm in the South Granville area. I've been collecting contact info from Vancouver SDA'ers to arrange a get together sometime. If you're interested to join us, please drop me a line: b1@pocketpollster.com

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 30, 2009 8:20 PM

I feel sorry for Vince Carlin's. He was so happy to report that fortunately Global human warming was real . That the deniers where wrong. The believers Religion vindicated. All this by only looking at select e-mails. So overjoyed with relief that the Planet. If these buttbars are correct, will kill billions. Excited that the MSM will not report the coding.
Just how warped can you be in service of an ideology?
Fire the CBC. Lock stop & barrel.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at November 30, 2009 8:23 PM

re: The "illegal" issue

As i understand the law, and i am not a lawyer, committing an illegal act to bring a greater illegality to light can abrogate the illegality of that act.

For example, in watergate the leaks and the acts of Felt AKA "Deep Throat" were dwarfed by the crimes against the state they unveiled.

I think that the same rules apply to this leak/theft.

MAcDonald is a twerp to frame the issue the way he did. Yet another program by the CBC that I will not listen to.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at November 30, 2009 8:26 PM

"spineless carbon unit"
That has a nice ring to it.
how about "witless carbon unit"?

Posted by: orvict at November 30, 2009 8:31 PM

Martin @ 7:51: "I am pleasantly surprised to see the full list of comments published"
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Not sure how you meant that to be interpreted, but I would like to see the full list of comments received, not just those they choose to publish. I wonder how many were left out and whether they sought to artificially balance the pros with the cons. In other words, the cons seem to be far more numerous than the pros, but I wonder whether the ratio isn't even more unbalanced in the "raw data". I suppose, though, that they will have discarded the original data. LOL!

I also noted that the contrarian's comments seem to have a lot more factual statements contained in them, which would indicate to me that these people know their stuff far more than the pros do.

Posted by: Louise at November 30, 2009 8:37 PM

Carte Hall @ 8:18, nah, they've just reached their limit of negative comments and will have to wait for a few days in order to find some more positive ones, or post some themselves under pseudonyms.

Posted by: Louise at November 30, 2009 8:42 PM

"Hi Fred, I'm in the South Granville area. I've been collecting contact info from Vancouver SDA'ers to arrange a get together sometime. If you're interested to join us, please drop me a line"

I'm a Yaletowner . . not far away

I'll ping ya at the address . . .

Posted by: Fred at November 30, 2009 8:43 PM

Or nobody works at Mother Corpse more than 30 seconds beyond quitting time.

Posted by: Louise at November 30, 2009 8:46 PM

Louise, I know that my three (3) comments were not allowed. One of them was announcing astoishment at the ratio of "pro" to "anti" AGW poasts. Completely unlike any free blog.

Posted by: RW at November 30, 2009 9:05 PM

Heh, Louise just thinking, it will be a good day when they don't *work* for us at any time.

Posted by: ldd at November 30, 2009 9:05 PM

Bill Good is a liar.

he says he only just found out. I don't know about anyone else, but I've e-mailed him for a week.

What a useful, limp, spineless carbon unit.....
Posted by: DanBC at November 30, 2009 8:18 PM

I don't listen to CKNW anymore, but if Good said he's just found out about Climategate, then he is a liar. I too e-mailed him the weekend before last (i.e. two days after the story broke), castigating him for his settled-science opinion on AGW in light of the Climategate revelations.

Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at November 30, 2009 9:20 PM

""Resolution: "Climate change is mankind's defining crisis, and demands a commensurate response."

The case for: Elizabeth May and George Monbiot

The case against: Bjørn Lomborg and Nigel Lawson"

I'm no fan of Dizzy Lizzie or the King of the Moonbats, but at least they have the gonadal material to actually debate someone on this issue. Unlike other warmists known to drive diesel buses thousands of miles or to accept hundreds of thousands of C$ for drive-by appearances in Canada.

Posted by: felis corpulentis at November 30, 2009 9:31 PM

What I found most remarkable was how Bill Good didn't immediately understand why the term "Denier" was being - ie. to associate GW Skeptics with Holocaust Deniers. It was SO OBVIOUS! Yet he claims he didn't know for some time "until someone pointed it out to him."

And yet he's supposed to be an example of our Brilliant Journalist Professionals. Egad.

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 30, 2009 9:36 PM

... didn't immediately understand why the term "Denier" was being - ie. to associate GW Skeptics with Holocaust Deniers."

The same thing applies to their feigned shock over using term "teabaggers". They all understand...it's just that they're all pathological liars.

Posted by: wingwalker at November 30, 2009 9:53 PM

Ron in Kelowna, that is a canned reply from Vince; which is nice, even if it is canned. I usually get zero responses from people I send e-mails to, at least Vince takes the time to e-mail back something.

I am personally surprised at how this story is sticking with almost no MSM support. I recall reading a report in 2005 predicting that blogs would be gone by 2008. Personally, I use blogs as my first level of political and technical news, the MSM as back-up. The MSM has really become that bad, and that is likely why this scandal isn't going away; the MSM has very little moral authority left.

Also, I have been noticing canned responses in the comment sections of several blogs where the warmists claim that although the CRU is discredited, there are thousands of papers and scientists untainted by the scandal. It appears when asked to specify some papers or scientists, they can't and start getting really defensive.

One last thought; one commentator pointed out something important about the peer-review process. It isn't a review of the actualy data or theory, but more of a proof reading. So, in reality, saying a paper is peer-reviewed isn't really saying it was rigorously tested.

Posted by: Ln(e) at November 30, 2009 9:54 PM

Correct, 1, peer-review is not replication. That's separate.

Posted by: Vitruvius at November 30, 2009 9:56 PM

This is just the beginning...


I picture the process like pouring salt on a leech and watching it writhe.

Posted by: OMMAG at November 30, 2009 10:18 PM

Hey Robert W (Vancouver): Bill Good is a complete joke. He's so thick, I don't know how he's lasted this long on radio/TV.

So instead of listening to him, I listen to Rush Limbaugh. NO FREAKIN COMPARISON, I say!

Posted by: Soccermom at November 30, 2009 10:26 PM

From Wikipedia :

Bob McDonald (born January 25, 1951) is a Canadian author and science journalist. He is the National Science Commentator for CBC Television and CBC Newsworld, and since 1992 has been the host of a weekly radio science show, Quirks and Quarks which draws approximately half a million listeners each week.

McDonald is not actually a scientist, although he is commonly thought to be one. His academic background includes theater, English, and philosophy.

"commonly thought to be one?" Well not by me anyway. This guy is a farking idiot

Posted by: atwood at November 30, 2009 10:40 PM

Would they be infringing on copyright if they called the AGW crowd: "The Church of Climate Scientology".

Climate Scientologists!

Not as snappy as "denier", but I think it's funnier and more original...

Posted by: hoil at November 30, 2009 10:56 PM

Re Bob McDonald's academic credits: "His academic background includes theater ..."

He must have got a major in theatrics as that's pretty much all he's presenting re AGW on Quirks and Quarks. And that's all the CBC requires.

FIRE. THEM. ALL.

I. WANT. MY. MONEY. BACK.

Posted by: batb at November 30, 2009 10:56 PM

That article makes me hungry for some McDonalds, i dunno why.

Posted by: Sam at November 30, 2009 11:52 PM

Bob Mcdonald had a show. EI EI O
And on that show he had some quacks EI EI O
With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
Sorry about that.
Seriously, Bob is a waste of perfectly good carbon.

Posted by: nold at December 1, 2009 1:03 AM

Ghost of Ed: "Just checked Carlin's site. Has he ever ruled in favour of anyone who disagreed with mother corpse? I don't ever recall any of his decisions that went against the CBC."

Occasionally, he'll admit that there was a tiny breach of journalistic integrity but in the next breath he'll point out what the "fairness," "equality," and "journalistic integrity" policies are at the CBC and insist that the CBC is living up to them. Twilight zone.

What would you expect? Vince Carlin went from being an employee for years at the CBC, to teaching "journalism" at Ryerson, and then was INVITED back by the CBC to be their ombudsman.

'Conflict of interest? 'Any chance he's going to be objective? I wonder what big buck$ we're paying him?

Posted by: batb at December 1, 2009 7:38 AM

I think CBC has stopped posting comments to the article - or it is taking them a very long time to put them up. Or maybe they just didn't like my comments.

Posted by: Maureen at December 1, 2009 8:22 AM

Bob McDonald is more knowledgeable than 99% of the population when it comes to climate change. But don't take his word for it, listen to the scientists on his show.

Or how about going back to school and actually learning some science?

Posted by: Duval at December 1, 2009 11:47 AM

Bob McDonald is more knowledgeable than 99% of the population when it comes to climate change. But don't take his word for it, listen to the scientists on his show.

Or how about going back to school and actually learning some science?

Posted by: Duval at December 1, 2009 11:47 AM

"Or how about going back to school and actually learning some science?"

You mean a high school level brushup on scientific method, which our friends at the CRU have conveniently brushed aside?

Posted by: ChrisinMB at December 1, 2009 12:30 PM

If Bob McDonald, AKA "Man of a Thousand Teeth", seems knowledgable on climate change, that knowledge of his is based on FAULTY, MADE UP SCIENCE!

In other words his knowledge is based on a theory that is fast unravelling.

Yes, good for him to be so up on his "facts", made up as they are.

Posted by: Soccermom at December 1, 2009 12:39 PM

Martin at 7:51 - Rick Anderson is not a Conservative - he is for sale to anyone who pays him, he will say anything he is told to say - he trashes our Prime Minister in the seediest, slimiest manner; he was once on the Paul Martin 'team'. I saw a few snippets of him (Anderson)on the CTV show (which I sometimes watch for a few minuites during Glenn Beck's commercial breaks), the hair rose on the back of my neck - the little creep makes my skin crawl.

I agree with you, Reverent Dream, just fire them all, dump that corrupt gang at CBC, lock, stock and barrel - they are a undermining our nation, through omission to report; ironically, taxpayers are forced to pay those hacks!

That McDonald guy is just cutting and pasting from the UN site - he has not had an original thought since he went to work for msm - in fact non of msm have original thoughts; they are stuck on stupid, by design! Anyone who has attended university in the last 40 years will know that the institutions of higher learning have accepted no original thought since the dark Turdo daze. Students/teachers regurgitate the Bolshi pablum or you don't pass/work. I found that out in 1973, things changed that year. Most of my profs at U-Vic retired or left that year - and I found myself in very strange times.

Great links orvict. Thanks again Kate and posters for the exception coverage of this scandal of the century.

Posted by: Jema54 at December 1, 2009 1:39 PM

I just checked back and there are a lot more comments posted now. Still pretty much lambasting CBC, though. I can't imagine how low morale must be at Mother Corpse. If it isn't low, that must mean they are an incorrigible bunch of elitist snobs. In either case, the best cure is privatization.

Hear that, Harper?

Posted by: Louise at December 2, 2009 12:08 AM
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