You have to love President Obama - less than a year in office and Anthropogenic Global Warming has been fixed. Well, except for a little bit of cleanup. It doesn't look like he will be able to close the Guantanamo Bay Prison as he pledged. But I think that there is an opportunity for a win-win here.

If he arrested Al Gore, Michael Mann, James Hansen and then did a rendition on David Suzuki from Canada, Phil Jones and others from the CRU in England, I think that Gitmo would be an ideal location to hold them while determining their future.

Science would be restored to its rightful place, the Nobel Prize would be deserved and reelection in 2012 would be a cake walk.

and the sound of silence. CBCpravda headline list. nary a word still.
If CBCpravdas budget were cut to nil next year, would it make a sound. you bet , it would squeal like a pig till they pulled the plug.

Technology & Science Headlines
Gore predicts climate treaty by next year
Former U.S. vice-president Al Gore says he's optimistic that a global climate treaty will follow the Copenhagen conference next month.
Canadian astronaut eager to return to Earth
Bob Thirsk, the Canadian astronaut with the longest time in space, is eagerly anticipating seeing his family again.
Shuttle departs space station for Friday landing
The space shuttle Atlantis undocked Wednesday morning from the International Space Station as it ended its week-long stay. The shuttle's seven astronauts will now prepare for a scheduled landing Friday in Florida.
Obama to attend global climate summit
U.S. President Barack Obama will go to the global climate summit in Copenhagen next month, a White House official said Wednesday.
Ericsson, Kapsch win Nortel GSM auction
LM Ericsson and another European company on Wednesday won the auction for Nortel Networks' GSM wireless technology business.
Daredevil's winged flight across Gibraltar strait fails
A Swiss daredevil attempting to fly across the Strait of Gibraltar using just a homemade, jet-powered wing fell short of his goal and was rescued from the water on Wednesday.
Large Hadron Collider's 1st collisions recorded
Researchers at the Large Hadron Collider have successfully smashed together two beams of protons in the machine's particle accelerator for the first time.
Food waste has environmental impact: scientists
Americans are wasting food at a rate of 1,400 calories per person per day which has implications for obesity and climate change, U.S. researchers say.
Rogers can't claim to be 'most reliable' network, court rules
Rogers Communications Inc. can no longer claim without qualification that it has "Canada's most reliable" wireless network, the Supreme Court of British Columbia has ruled.
ISP owners could face jail under child porn bill
The federal government has introduced legislation requiring internet service providers to report any indications of child pornography to authorities or face fines and possible imprisonment.
Origin of Species 1st edition fetches $174K
A rare, first-edition copy of Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species fetched a hefty price at a London auction Tuesday, after having been kept in a British family's guest washroom for years.
Banks lost millions on digital cheque project
A multimillion-dollar project by Canada's major banks and credit unions, which would have cut carbon emissions and saved money, has been scrapped. The digital clearing system would have ended the practice of couriering about three million cheques around the country each day.
U.S., Canada will share refugee fingerprints
The United States says it will join Canada, Australia and Britain in sharing fingerprints to help authorities crack down on asylum shopping and unlawful immigration.
Enforce environmental laws at oilsands: report
The federal government is not protecting rivers and groundwater near the northern Alberta oilsands, affecting people living as far upstream as Yellowknife, according to a new report.
New dad in space focuses on shuttle job
NASA's new dad in space, shuttle astronaut Randolph Bresnik, said he had no problems focusing on his job while awaiting his daughter's birth.
Fungus new to Calgary attacks poplar, aspens
Calgary has been hit by a fungus that can kill several species of trees that are popular in suburban backyards.
Alberta to spend $495M on carbon capture pipeline

Nothing, zip zero nada today in the major papers on this. Biggest story since Monica Lewinsky's bleu dress, we of the Blogosphere have it all to ourselves.

And they wonder why their media companies are going bankrupt.

This is just BEAUTIFUL. If the proxy shows a decline, just add a ramp to the values:

;mknormal,yyy,timey,refperiod=[1881,1940]
;
; Apply a VERY ARTIFICAL correction for decline!!
;
yrloc=[1400,findgen(19)*5.+1904]
valadj=[0.,0.,0.,0.,0.,-0.1,-0.25,-0.3,0.,-0.1,0.3,0.8,1.2,1.7,2.5,2.6,2.6,$
2.6,2.6,2.6]*0.75 ; fudge factor
(...)
;
; APPLY ARTIFICIAL CORRECTION
;
yearlyadj=interpol(valadj,yrloc,x)
densall=densall+yearlyadj

Lonesome George. Not the other George.

George agrees/concurs: >>> Denial is a BIG river.

The meltdown of AGW. It's over.

AGW fraud was a finite ideology. AGW had a beginning; AGW is now at its end.

Is George in full CYA mode? Is George hoping to keep his perky job? What gives with George? Is George rational?
...-

George Monbiot:

"Pretending the climate email leak isn't a crisis won't make it go away

Climate sceptics have lied, obscured and cheatedfor years. That's why we climate rationalists must uphold the highest standards of science."

have seldom felt so alone. Confronted with crisis, most of the environmentalists I know have gone into denial. The emails hacked from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia, they say, are a storm in a tea cup, no big deal, exaggerated out of all recognition. It is true that climate change deniers have made wild claims which the material can't possibly support (the end of global warming, the death of climate science). But it is also true that the emails are very damaging.

The response of the greens and most of the scientists I know is profoundly ironic, as we spend so much of our time confronting other people's denial. Pretending that this isn't a real crisis isn't going to make it go away. Nor is an attempt to justify the emails with technicalities. We'll be able to get past this only by grasping reality, apologising where appropriate and demonstrating that it cannot happen again."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2009/nov/25/monbiot-climate-leak-crisis-response

I just sent the following email to my MP.

I'm sure you are well aware of the scandalous information coming out of the Hadley CRU organization in Britain. Much of the data at Hadley was used by the IPCC to skim money from us to fight so called "climate change." Now we are learning that the data has been fudged and manipulated, peer reviews rejected if they did not agree with Hadley CRU's conclusions, stonewalling Freedom of Information requests and much, much more. One leaked email virtually celebrated the death of a crititic, aother expressed a wish to do physical harm to to a persistent scientist who disagreed. In addition, independant computer programmers and analysts who have examined the data have concluded it is unworkable at best and garbage at least.

I hope this scandal is enough for Canada to put the brakes on spending more taxpayer money on this potentially huge international fraud. Our representatives at Copenhagen must make it clear that "the science is settled" mantra can no longer be tolerated.

It also should be noted that I am fed up with my tax dollars going to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation which has chosen to deliberately ignore this scandal while giving air time to the likes Al Gore and David Suzuki. The CBC should be privatized with no further delay.

Incredible. If they can get the code to compile/ run and it produces results identical to something this group has published...then the CRU folks will be toast. They can argue all they want about emails being subjective and taken out of context. But they won't be able to squirm out from under this.

Will the person who leaked all of this be getting a Nobel Prize to match that of Gore and company?

Will B.C. Premier Campbell now revoke his "carbon tax" forthwith, or will we revoke Gordo?

the person who leaked this or hacked it will probably do a lot of time in the slammer.
laying low i'm sure

Yes, as the Lady on Sask radio said yesterday(paraphrase) - as damning as the climate alarmists' emails are, the real crime shows up in the data, computer codes. IOW the cooking of the data.

Why is Gore slamming the oilsands?
The alberta government came up with a plan to scam the scammers.
Carbon capture and storage.

I've got a better idea Doug.
Send the Nutley CRU to the north pole.
With all the warming going on they should be comfortable. They won't starve either. They could eat all the dead polar bears.

Has anyone been arrested yet? and I'm not talking about hackers.

ROFL. This is one time when commenting code came back to bite. :)

What real purpose did Mr. Roosevelt promote through the way he used his imperial powers? He
furthered the main principles of a plan for the redistribution of the earth published in 1942 (but
clearly prepared much earlier) by a mysterious 'Group for a New World Order', headed by a Mr.
Moritz Gomberg. What this group proposed was startling at the time but proved farsighted. The
main recommendations were that the Communist Empire should be extended from the Pacific to
the Rhine, with China, Korea, Indo-China, Siam and Malaya in its orbit; and that a Hebrew State
should be set up on the soil of 'Palestine, Transjordan and the adjoining territories'. These two
projects were largely realized. Canada and numerous 'strategic islands' were to pass to the United
States (the reader should keep these 'strategic islands' in mind). The remaining countries of Western
Europe were to disappear in a 'United States of Europe' (this scheme is being vigorously pursued at
present). The African continent was to become a 'Union of Republics'. The British Commonwealth
was to be left much reduced, the Dutch West Indies joining Australia and New Zealand in it. The
scheme looks like a blueprint of the second stage in a grand operation of three stages, and
substantial parts of it were achieved; what was not then accomplished is being energetically
attempted now.

Opps. Now why did I cut and paist that in there? Me bad.

Lorrie Goldstein of the Toronto Sun has an excellent article on this scam in today's paper.

http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/lorrie_goldstein/2009/11/25/11915496-sun.html

We have been exchanging emails on this subject over the last few days and he said the Sun would print several columns on this and they did today. Lorrie believes as I do that the fix is in because of the massive amounts of money involved. The other Sun articles sourced from AP notes that UofT professor Danny Harvey said the hacked emails "were much ado about nothing" and "there is no denying that humans are behind climate change and we have 12 independent indicators telling us the climate is warming"

Has anyone heard of these 12 indicators? I thought all data shows the earth is cooling.

Another article has AlBore stating how Dr. Fruitfly is "a great leader on these issues"

Thanks, Kate, for keeping us up to date on this.

I now believe in man made-up global warming.

"The climatologist at the centre of the leaked emails row said today that he "absolutely" stands by his research and that any suggestion that the emails provide evidence of a conspiracy to manipulate or hide data that do not support the theory of man-made climate change was "complete rubbish". "

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/24/climate-professor-leaked-emails-uea

See, its settled.

So now they will investigate leaked emails instead 'cause that's the only real crime here.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/23/climate-change-emails-uea

Move along folks.

Doug, it's increasingly unclear that this was hacked from outside. More and more it appears that it was a package prepared to meet an FOI request, that was in fact released from inside.

We will be magnanimous in victory - I think life in max for Gore and Suzuki, fraud convictions for all the rest? And as much humiliation as you can dish out, daily if possible, to anyone who believed this $hit.

"They can argue all they want about emails being subjective and taken out of context. But they won't be able to squirm out from under this." [ by bryceman]

They already have by stating other scientists independently came to the same conclusions as they did.

"Our global temperature series tallies with those of other, completely independent, groups of scientists working for Nasa and the National Climate Data Centre in the United States, among others. Even if you were to ignore our findings, theirs show the same results. The facts speak for themselves; there is no need for anyone to manipulate them."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/24/climate-professor-leaked-emails-uea

Well, it seems that there must have been so much more carbon released in the 40s and 60s to have so much more warming happening up until then but not since. All scientific data should be released to the public for scrutiny - not just this crowd but all scientific data. Transparency is the only way to build trust.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Climate is not even close to being understood. There is no model on the face of the earth that is even close to imitating that which mother nature is responsible for - way, way, way too many variables (possibly ones that aren't even considered yet). It is certainly most arrogant to assume that humans can possibly change the earth's climate cycles.

Even if the AGW crowd were right (which they aren't), global warming is infinitely preferable to global cooling (which would cause massive death from starvation, and cause certain parts of the globe to become inhabitable).

Do you folks comprehend what those screenshots mean?

They mean that GW scam is not going for the past 10-20 years, no! It's at least 60 years old.

Someone knew that there was a decline in t°, but created a worldwide conspiracy to mask that fact. And as you know, the more horrific is the lie, the easier to believe in it, right, Mr. Goebbels?

You need to understand, that the fact that global temperatures were declining was strategically used to shift flows of wealth away from North America and Europe. Think in whose best interests it would be.

Shawn, I know why you pasted that in here - because that's frightening relevant. The Western civilization is like that dinosaur, whose brain was size of a garlic clove and so far from its tail, that it would not feel if the tail was being bitten. Someone is biting our tail, but we are not yet feeling it and are too preoccupied to think about it.

The unfolding Climategate revelations have clearly shown that an organized criminal enterprise has been at work. I use the term "organized criminal" because how else could you explain multiple individuals manipulating data quite deliberately and greatly benefiting financially as a result?

I don't see how this is any different than unsavory stock promoters doing unethical & illegal things to drive up the price of stocks.

can i now make and show an agit-prop commercial to suzuki's grandkids as he has to mine? will the govt give me some funding for this as they have to him?

"there is no denying that humans are behind climate change and we have 12 independent indicators telling us the climate is warming"

What 12 independent indicators?
Ah, not that I want to doubt you Mr. Harvey, but got proof?

Paging Izzy! paging Izzy!

And wasn't the original 'Green Party' of Canada started by a pro marijuana group?
Just recalled that for some reason.

Alas, even those learned colleagues immersed in science for decades and decades cannot, will not, listen to any reason. Reason, the only hope, should faith fail.

Incredulous, I read another response to an email I sent out yesterday. It included...

"I respect your views immensely, but as other great men we know well (on the redshift debate: Hoyle, Arp, Burbidge, and even my good buddy xxxxx), you are honestly on the wrong side of what is not even a debate any longer."

Again we are confronted with the premeditated, and cleverly crafted first-degree deceit by a relative few. This time, it's Big Time. It is designed to infect the vast masses of ordinary folk together with kings and queens and presidents and prime ministers. And the gullible, charlatan media in their fumbling silence collude with their puppeteers.

It is so obvious that education, rank, eminence are no defense, no antidote, no example to follow. Wisdom does not recognise education, rank, or eminence. Daily, if not by the hour, we learn that Truth has nothing in common with them. Nothing.

Of course Islam is an enemy of giant proportions. But the enemy within is far greater. If so many "learned" folks can so easily be duped by so few other "learned" folks, what chances can the ordinary citizen have? My answer to that is: much greater! Their lenses typically have a much wider angle. A bondage-badge-of-the-left has not been conferred on them by any university.

How smooth is the lefty-liquor to the lefty-palate. How easily Islam flourishes in the dirt of those bondage-badges.

Reason, the only hope, should faith fail. But where is reason in a shameless age?

Which all could mean -- GET RID of the Canadian Brainwashing Corporation.

Brent Weston
Man made-up Global Warming.
Excellent. Still laughing.

This will be the biggest scientific event in history.

Unfortunately it will be the biggest event that never was acted upon, there is no way the political class and intellectuals in the western countries will ever let something like the truth or science derail the Climate Change momentum.

Obama will attend Copenhagen and spell out emission caps and regulations so you know it is falling of deaf ears.

The current Governments in EU, America, and Australia have gone "all in" on this subject and they have used it to invade National Security,Trade Deficits, Job Creation and Taxation policies. They do not have a PLAN B. Without Climate Change their Energy, Security, Jobs and Economic Policy Plans are dead.

This will be the largest "ignored" scientific revelation that ever happened in history. IT has been propped up with so many other issues that mitigating Climate Change is not really the "supported" goal anymore (it never was) it was a convenient excuse to put all the other issues on the table and build an even larger intrusion into markets in order to control capital flows in Global Terms.

Climate change (global warming) is the current vehicle 'they' are using to form 'world governance'. Who are 'they'? Can we expose them? How do we fight for our freedom? Is it the UN, the political class, is it the banks, or all of the above? The scientist were just the useful idiots.

Hide the Decline!

http://i49.tinypic.com/m9vcxv.jpg

Remember this is only one idea from the Club of Rome. The others are in the works.

Brent Weston
Man made-up Global Warming.
Excellent. Still laughing.

Spelled Mann wrong .

There is a God and He clearly has a sense of humor.

There is a God and He clearly has a sense of humor.

"Hide the Decline"

I clicked and expected to see Obamasiah's numbers.

Maybe he can can "Toes" to buy this code and sneak it onto US polling company servers.

cgh - "Doug, it's increasingly unclear that this was hacked from outside. More and more it appears that it was a package prepared to meet an FOI request, that was in fact released from inside."

Similar to what I think, however, I think this information was packaged together by the CRU into a file with the express purpose of hiding it from an FOI request, which made it convenient for the whistle-blower to send out.

Nutley Cru Hockey Game:

Announcer: "Michael Mann, two minutes for high sticking."

Lorenzo:

To answer your question, US is not kicking UN out of New York City and are not cutting funding to it, despite UN regularly voting against the US interests. Are the USA a masochistic state? Hell, no! There must be a very good reason US 1) exists and 2) has HQ in the US.

typo: There must be a very good reason UN 1) exists and 2) has HQ in the US.

Kate: A few minutes ago Charles Adler just gave you blog a plug....he was telling his audience to log on to Small Dead Animals for up to date info on Climategate!

To my Previous Point....

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/25/climate-czar-says-e-mails-dont-change-anything/

Climate science is in no danger here and never has been.

Only climate "scientism" is.

Rush Limbaugh getting exercised over the Mann Made Globull Worming:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_112409/content/01125109.guest.html

Mann made global warming. There, FIFY.

"UofT professor Danny Harvey said the hacked emails "were much ado about nothing" and "there is no denying that humans are behind climate change and we have 12 independent indicators telling us the climate is warming"

The problem with Mr. Harvey's point is that the central issue is not whether or not the climate is warming (and it looks like currently NOT) the question is whether or not CO2 from fossil fuels is a driving factor. This we do not know, and if his claim is "there is no denying humans are behind climate change: (an incredible statement really), then supporting data must be produced.

It now looks like top scientists have been fudging their results to get a desired outcome. How do we know that many others are not doing exactly the same thing? Given the grant money involved, there is good reason to believe that they are. One of the problems here is that the integrity of climate science is now called into question.

"Obama will attend Copenhagen and spell out emission caps and regulations ....."

From the latest news:

"Mr. Obama will tell the delegates to the climate conference that the United States intends to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions “in the range of” 17 percent below 2005 levels by 2020 and 83 percent by 2050, officials said. The administration has resisted until now delivering a firm pledge on emissions reductions because Congress has not yet acted on global warming legislation and because several large developing nations, including China and India, have not detailed their own plans."

Oblivious (!?)

Janke's take on this , not bad , not bad at all .

I previously posted this at Celestial Junk:
________________________________________________

This sordid little episode does not disprove AGW. There's likely still a good case to be made - I think.

What is clear, however, is that climate researchers must make public all data, software, and methodologies that they base their results on. If they don't then (1) public funding of their research must cease, and (2) journals should not accept their papers.

Once this information is made public, some of the more significant papers should be reviewed to gauge how well they stand up. If they don't, or if the reviewers do not have enough information to form a decision, the papers should be officially desanctified.

Given that the fate of the earth (and trillions of dollars) depends on it, I don't think this is too radical.

"Argument from authority" is not acceptable in science, and without access to researchers' sources, that is where we now find ourselves.

WUWT has done yeomans service.

Here's a beauty that will have all mathematicians and physicists rolling in the aisles.

"..so the data value is unbfeasibly large, but why does the
sum-of-squares parameter OpTotSq go negative?!!"

Yes ... sum anything squared and its always POSITIVE!

The program notes are a parade of liner notes on how not to do science.

These AGW people are so massively FARCed up they should be charged with climate terrorism.

AGW is a form of mathematical leprosy.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"

Shawn, Aaron and Lorenzo - I think that you are tracking with a good dog. IMO,the temperature hopy, changy thingie was designed to be a transfer of wealth; not to poor countries but to the elitists who wish to enslave humanity. If a person is without money, they are without power; they can't fight. The bigshots are demonizing white men (who generally earn more money than the rest of us), property owners ('save the speckled horned owl' - PETA - no concern for the chickens force fed and kept in gruesome little cages because chickens arn't cute!), mining outfits (make it impossible to make money by putting impossible regulations in law and made huge portions of land parks - pristine parks good for nothing, parks; parks should be small and people friendly, not vast swaths of land that no one in their right mind would go for a holiday), educators (design aspects of education on a social education basis - no facts, no challenges, no disciple - BIG indocternization to discourage individual thinking and descent - demonetization of students who do express descent or deviation from the 'acceptable' (PC) line of thinking), gun owners (an unarmed person is a servant, an armed person is a citizen and citizens demand Justice for themselves and their countrymen - the old saying: 'don't take a knife to a gunfight' is what the human haters fear people will glean on to; also they fear the BNA Act and the US Constitution - the Right to Bear Arms is guaranteed to protect citizens from an out of control internal government)....the initial 'test' was the WHO anti smoking bedwetters and they succeeded on a mission based on faulty science, they demonised a big percentage of free citizens, they bankrupted many businesses, they were never charged and some people (even Conservatives) are still in denial about the cooked up scourge that smoking tobacco was inflicting on the whole human race! Divide and Conquer - the anti smoking bedwetting was never about health, it was an experiment in social engineering and power. It seemed to work so they were emboldened...and they carried it further to tax hot air..it almost worked.

The cat is out of the bag now and the scientists have lost all their credibility. It will be a long road uphill now.

On another note - I listened to QP in the HOC today, My message: Mr Pentice - grow a spine!!

Hans, is it too late to email that programmer and tell him to check for overflow setting the sign bit?

The coolest thing about this is how the politicians are going to realize how deep into the tar pit they allowed the MSM to push them. Not only is the MSM pouring acid all over its own credibility with the reading public, by disappearing into its cave in a funk its also leaving the politicians twisting in the wind - which I am sure will not be forgotten.

Its one thing to lose leadership... quite another to have your words fall on politically deaf ears.

Personally, I am all in favor of a new journalism award - the PullWoolOverEyes prize - in the form of a polar bear rug, annually awarded to the most courageous Canadian journalist.

may I take a screen shot of those docs.to post on my blog i shall give u the customary h/t? how are you with links? i recall sometime ago you were having problems with crashing?

David Suzuki did say deniers should be jailed.

The pols are doing good job denying everything as we speak.

Is denying obvious a part of education they receive at their expensive law schools or it's just mentality?

Who needs accurate data when you know you'll be lying about it anyway?

Brent W. -- I like that "Mann made-up global warming". Too funny.

""They can argue all they want about emails being subjective and taken out of context. But they won't be able to squirm out from under this." [ by bryceman]

They already have by stating other scientists independently came to the same conclusions as they did.

"Our global temperature series tallies with those of other, completely independent, groups of scientists working for Nasa and the National Climate Data Centre in the United States, among others. Even if you were to ignore our findings, theirs show the same results. The facts speak for themselves; there is no need for anyone to manipulate them."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/24/climate-professor-leaked-emails-uea"

Then let's have a look at their data and methodology as well. Time for some Freedom Of Information requests.

""UofT professor Danny Harvey said the hacked emails "were much ado about nothing"

Well that says legions about the morality, honesty and integrity of the good professor. If he thinks what they did was nothing, then he is tacitly supporting their actions.

Maybe the UofT should open an Ethics Investigation into this wise professor.

The separation of Academia and State - demand it !!

"Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."

Eisenhower: From the "military industrial complex" farewell address

A study on how to remove embarassing data known as the Medieval Warming Period: remove any data between 1079 and 1400.

NICE! Why code for reality when you can manipulate it?

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"

# FOIA\documents\osborn-tree5\densplus188119602netcdf.pro; we know the file starts at yr 440, but we want nothing till 1400, so we
; can skill lines (1400-440)/10 + 1 header line
; we now want all lines (10 yr per line) from 1400 to 1980, which is
; (1980-1400)/10 + 1 lines
(...)
; we know the file starts at yr 1070, but we want nothing till 1400, so we
; can skill lines (1400-1070)/10 + 1 header line
; we now want all lines (10 yr per line) from 1400 to 1991, which is
; (1990-1400)/10 + 1 lines (since 1991 is on line beginning 1990)

They already have by stating other scientists independently came to the same conclusions as they did.
~Stan

The only way they could come to the same conclusions with the same real temperature data is if they used the same methods.
(or they weren't independent at all)

Don't forget that Jones/Mann were seeing to it that every scientist on earth that disagreed with the CRU was severed from the peer review process and journal publications.
That means toe the line or be cut off from the government gravy train.

Suzuki did say that Harry

http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=291604

my knuckles are getting sore waiting for Kates reply to my above 4:28

Despite the denials of the AGW Alarmist crowd and the complicit MSM, it.... is.... over. It is like exposing a Vampire to sunlight and watching it turn to dust.
The only difference is that the death of these blood suckers is going to be in slow motion and a lot more humiliating.

There is far too much invested in the hughly significant AGW paradigm to expect a reversal based on this event which is much more than a smoking gun. The mainstream media, government at most levels, virtually all of academia from Kindergarten-up, Hollywood, rent-seeking whores of big business, ENGO's, they are all believers in, tied emotionally and or financially to this grand narrative. This, along with other off-shoots of the pseudo-science of environmental hysteria has replaced Christianity, Communism and Reason over the last half century. It won't go away easily.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/24/climate-professor-leaked-emails-uea
[...."Our global temperature series tallies with those of other, completely independent, groups of scientists working for Nasa and the National Climate Data Centre in the United States, among others. Even if you were to ignore our findings, theirs show the same results. The facts speak for themselves; there is no need for anyone to manipulate them."]
At this juncture, it is irrevocably obvious that these "completely independant, groups" are not completely independant....we have the e-mails where they co-ordinated their BS.
When they colaborated to write the song book, is it reasonable that they should all sing from it.
Give your head a good shake!
DUHHHH!!!!!!!!

Take the good fight beyond the blogosphere. The MSM will be forced to cover this when we can successfully cajole a high profile politician to speak. I'd say start with a writing campaign to get the Senate (yes that would be the Canadian Senate) to investigate. They are less likely to be influenced by election calculus so it is my hope that some senators would feel comfortable about acting. What do you think?

Did anyone catch Suzuki and Gore on CBC radio at 10 a.m.? I was at work but I'll take one for the team if required: it will be repeated at 10. p.m. EST

I just sent the following to Senator Mike Duffy:

I am appealing to you and your Senate colleagues to begin an investigation into a series of emails leaked from a leading climate research university in England. These leaked documents have been circulating on the Internet since Friday. Concerned citizens like me who happen to also be scientists interpret these emails to mean that the reports, graphs, and policy decisions about man-made global warming are the fruits of substantial and provable academic misconduct in the following forms: 1) Manipulation of data to support pre-determined conclusions about man-made global warming; 2) Manipulation of the scientific peer-review process to exclude views that criticize the thesis of man-made global warming.

If you and your colleagues could find the political will to investigate these leaked documents and lend your voice to a search for truth, concerned scientists like me would be very grateful.

It still falls on deaf ears of Canadian politicans.

The Provincial Enviromental Ministers are with the Federal Minister right now stating what should be done there. I guarnntee not one of them will say that the exposure of this greatest fraud will mean a thing. I dare any Canadian politician to say that Global Warming/Climate Change is not true. They are to scard of the EnviroMENTALists, and not the truth. I would almost guarentee that the Cons will sign the accord and we will pay dearly for it. They are going to go along with the Cap & Trade that the USA is imposing on its voters and tax payers - we will not be far behind. I am just waiting on seeing how they will sell it to Canadians. They still use the term "carbon footprint" as a fact.

It may seen like extreem statements above, but there is no apparent change in the government stance. I can only hope I am wrong. All of these things on this blog does not make it to their ears. I've mailed my MP about this a while ago - no answer yet. I guess they all have to tow the party line and not represent voters with views like ours.

"Brent W. -- I like that "Mann made-up global warming". Too funny. Posted by: gobi desert

You could also say: "Mann MADe-up global warming"

Wow . . the Beeb turns on the Warmongers . . its a start

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/8374523.stm

CLIMATEGATE! Fox RIPS Global Warming Advocate! 1000's of Emails / Documents Reveal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHATItyOsdY

FOX NEWS has a nice 9:43 min segment.

The WARMONGERS immense dam of global warming BS is finally bursting.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"

For fun, I searched for “negative” in the “documents” directory – fgrep -i negative * -- and located like others have...

“17. Inserted debug statements into anomdtb.f90, discovered that
a sum-of-squared variable is becoming very, very negative! Key
output from the debug statements:

OpEn= 16.00, OpTotSq= 4142182.00, OpTot= 7126.00
DataA val = 93, OpTotSq= 8649.00
DataA val = 172, OpTotSq= 38233.00
DataA val = 950, OpTotSq= 940733.00
DataA val = 797, OpTotSq= 1575942.00
DataA val = 293, OpTotSq= 1661791.00
DataA val = 83, OpTotSq= 1668680.00
DataA val = 860, OpTotSq= 2408280.00
DataA val = 222, OpTotSq= 2457564.00
DataA val = 452, OpTotSq= 2661868.00
DataA val = 561, OpTotSq= 2976589.00
DataA val = 49920, OpTotSq=-1799984256.00
DataA val = 547, OpTotSq=-1799684992.00
DataA val = 672, OpTotSq=-1799233408.00
DataA val = 710, OpTotSq=-1798729344.00
DataA val = 211, OpTotSq=-1798684800.00
DataA val = 403, OpTotSq=-1798522368.00
OpEn= 16.00, OpTotSq=-1798522368.00, OpTot=56946.00
forrtl: error (75): floating point exception
IOT trap (core dumped)

..so the data value is unbfeasibly large, but why does the
sum-of-squares parameter OpTotSq go negative?!!

Probable answer: the high value is pushing beyond the single-
precision default for Fortran reals?”

Love it! Love it! Love it!

Maybe the rudiments of math 101 are demonstrating that the complexity is yielding something imaginary – like in imaginary numbers or temperatures, maybe?

Also the the humour of the computer response -- “core dumped”.

And then, the sophisticated “higher math” fix...

“Action: value replaced with -9999 and file renamed:

pre.0312031600H.dtb (to indicate I've fixed it)

.dts file also renamed for consistency.

anomdtb then runs fine!! Producing the usual txt files.”

And following all that (much too much to reproduce here) is an absolutely gut-delighting mish-mash of complete incompetence. I would have returned this homework assignment to the student with ZERO% for merit, and 100% for humour!

The last time I came across something as funny was when the “Municipality” had just painted new double lines on a local highway. Not only were the lines not parallel by 2 or 3 feet, they wandered up to 2 or 3 feet from the road centre. And I wasn't wearing diapers that day!

Trouble is, this climate humour is costing trillions of dollars, not to mention the bankrupting of truth as it once was known.

This is a job for Sarah Palin!

This is the only politician with the ballz and enough charisma to stand-up and speak the truth to this matter. One little comment from her will make this thing apocalyptic.

I'm going to write her this evening; I hope others do as well. SP has the largest "bully pulpit" out there; when she speaks EVERYONE listens, friends and foes alike. BO might have been able to make this claim, but today I suspect most people regard him as “TOTUS the Wolf-Crier”.

Blanks - Go ahead and link to anything you like here.

SDA has doen a wonderful job of taking the discussion through and past the 1079 e-mails and focussing on the more incriminating data sets that shows how the results were manipulated.

Keep up the good work...there are numerous cases that the blogosphere has kept stories alive that the MSM was trying to ignore, and none of those were even close to the magnitude of importance of this one.

IH...funny you should say that. I'm listening to the podcast of the cushy Gore/Suzuki interview on CBC today.
Gore blames the conservatives in the GOP for the fact that 20% fewer Americans believe in AGW.

Ghomeshi of course gushing.
Pass the gravol.

Nothing in the podcast worth listening to.
Suzuki now dissing Canadian government because there has never been a statement from PMSH that climate change is 'a very real ',and he dumped Kyoto.
Gore now praising Canadian history, but dissing PMSH for turning away from Kyoto, and dissing "tar sands".

Ghomeshi awakening: surprised by the e-mails( SDA readers) he received 'not everyone is convinced' by Gore/Suzuki.(oh,my!)
Gore referencing IPCC: "evidence (forAGW)UNEQUIVOVAL.Top scientists"
Suzuki says there is no debate.

No mention about the info leak.Surprised?

Putting aside those emails from UEA-CRU, their computer modeling has more splices, mixes and matches than a bad hair weave.

Charles Adler interviews Lorrie Goldstein here beginning at 6:00. Absolutely fantastic!!!

Charles Adler interviews Lorrie Goldstein: http://www.corusradio.com/Shared/AudioVault/CJOBAMaudioVault.asp?VaultDate=20091125&VaultTime=13&mysubmit=Listen

Move the slider to 6:00.

Absolutely fantastic!!!

t also should be noted that I am fed up with my tax dollars going to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation which has chosen to deliberately ignore this scandal while giving air time to the likes Al Gore and David Suzuki. The CBC should be privatized with no further delay.
Posted by: Ghost of Ed at November 25, 2009 2:04 PM

As the CBC is required to give equal time to the opposing side, I expect Prof. T. Ball and Alex Jones (Director of "Fall of the Republic")to be coming to a radio near you. Give me mush or give me equal time.

bluetech at 6:46

There's an hour of my life, wasted, I won't get back listening to those 2 windbags Gore and Kooky.
My guess is there was a whole list of "must not talk about" subjects for those 2 to even appear on the show.
Pathetic, leg-humping reporting as always from the CBC.

Check out www.rushlimbaugh.com he has a great new rant posted called "Just a Means to the Left`s Ends: Obama sticks with Climate Fraud"

Kate, o.k. thanx,
i felt guilty taking w/o asking
great post, great comments btw,
I'd say as usual but this story seems anything but.

WTF? I just watched Global National with K.N and not a single word about Climategate. Zip. Nil. Nada.

That is what I expected. The lame stream media has too much invested in AGW to follow the information on the CRU hacking. Until pushed. Thanks for the blogosphere!!!

The media-government complex: how we got here in the first place.

This is all in peer-reviewed journals.

The authors of the data being referred to have explicitly stated that their data after 1960 is not reliable enough to be used.

All this kerfuffle, and it's nothing.

The CRU and Dr Phil Jones have now made statements. Look for the Globe and Mail to start printing the story about climategate , probably tomorrow?

Is this what CRU is saying internally?

All those temperature recording devices lied!! Gaia is a denier. Gaia is a complete prat. I'd like to beat the crap out of her!

Wow. The "scientists" are blaming the measurement instruments? All in the name of saving the hallowed theory that provides them such a comfortable lifestyle?

Pat Micheals was oh so correct that this is not going away...that stuff will keep surfacing for a year---like watergate.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/surrprise_bbc_reporter_received_leaked_climategate_emails_but_refused_to_pu/
The controversy surrounding the global warming scandal today deepened after a BBC correspondent admitted he was sent the leaked emails more than a month before they were made public.

Paul Hudson, weather presenter and climate change expert, claims the documents allegedly sent between some of the world’s leading scientists are of a direct result of an article he wrote.

In his BBC blog two days ago, Hudson said: ‘I was forwarded the chain of emails on the 12th October, which are comments from some of the world’s leading climate scientists written as a direct result of my article “Whatever Happened To Global Warming”.’

Noel, it is quite simple to make a sum of squares parameter go negative, in that the temperature record also included the reactive component of the vector temperature. How do you measure that you say, by taking a discrete Fourier transform of the temperature signal over time to find the frequency space of said temperature signal... :)

Or else their program was using a variable that was not defined properly for the data it contained (i.e. float 16 instead of float 32). The value overloaded causing the twos complement negative value to appear in the variable. In layman's terms, it would be like an odometer rolling over 999999 km but instead of going to zero, it goes to -999999 km and counts down.

Well, of course all those intruments they used were "wrong", then they can ask for more funding to do it all over again. This time they'll "get it right".

The big positive number going inexplicably negative?

I recall from my first degree that for some data types the most significant bit can be used to indicate whether a number is positive or negative. If so, then summing of positive numbers to a total greater than the data type can hold as a positive number will result in a negative number. An experienced, competent programmer stops this happening by stopping the answer from going out of bounds and/or by checking that the answer has remained in bounds. If the programmer needs bigger numbers than can be held by the data type he should have chosen a data type capable of handling such... or summed the data into several sums and then handled each separately. Also there are ways to program very, very long precisions if needed...

Looks like the programmers were using AlGore Rhythyms, not algorithms .