Did they quote an anonymous source or an unnamed government official?

Not only do we not know whether the Hadley server was hacked or if a whistleblower released the data, but when did the possible illegality of documents ever stop the NY Times from publishing them during the Bush Administration?!

Unbelievable!!!

Does this surprise anybody posting on SDA? CBC will probably do ditto.

Spent my spare time the last couple of days sending all relevant links and info to major media and every journalist that I have in my address book.

Yet there is still nothing, and no responses from any (save Gunter), in the media.

It is as if this never happened.

New York Slimes, I think I like that, I can use that,
I will use that. Do you suppose it's patented?

It may be relevant to this story
that ANDREW C. REVKIN is a recepient of several of the e-mails
that the NYTs will not print.

Putting aside the NY Slimes attitude, did it ever occur to these "scientists" that when they work for publicly funded institutions and receive funding from both government and private enterprise, that the documents and emails they produce and the computers that they produce them on are to be used for the business that the funders have paid for, NOT FOR PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS!!!!!!!

Other than the NY Slimes and their ilk, just who expects personal and private yet slanderous language used while at work using workplace resources should be off limits???!!!!

That's hilarious! Losers.

Perhaps he's too young to remember Daniel Ellsberg.

Correction to my previous post.

Revkin of the New York Times is not only recepient
but also author of some of the purloined e-mails.

See for example

but of course exposing the effective efforts of the American gov't. to track the banking evidence against terrorists is kosher..

ah... the 'grey lady'(the NYT)that just won't die...

as dubya said at the time...'it's disgraceful"

and it was..and it is..

and here is one more example...surely these folks are suicidal...

The BBC is also following the same strategy. Funny how some reporters from the NYT & BBC are implicated in the emails, but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it eh?

"Because comments were posted quoting excerpts apparently from the hacked Climate Research Unit e-mails, and because there are potential legal issues connected with publishing this material, we have temporarily removed all comments until we can ensure that watertight oversight is in place."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/richardblack/2009/11/copenhagen_countdown_17_days.html

There needs to be a public outcry for the collection of all documents produced on the public dime related to AGW before there is a rush to the shredder and delete buttons. There needs to be a complete and transparent audit of all public agencies involved in this discipline. The apparent evidence from this event (CRU Hacking) could possibly grease the PR skids for such action.

Interesting angle. We now have a couple of examples of major news organizations being also implicated in this. why would it stop there given the leftist homogeny of the MSM.

How many other "fellow travellers" of the AGW crowd work in the MSM.

Based on their collective silence, it would seem that this might be a trend.

The exposure of fraud at the CRU is a huge story, but a bigger one would be the apparent complicity and aiding and abetting of the AGW fraud by the MSM.

My guess is that there are quite a few journos, editors and publishers emptying their inboxes right about now

Someone should end the pain, & flush the toilet on this outfit. moths to the dark light of Socialism. Hell bent on self immolation by the buffoonery .
The NYTimes has become a house of arsonists filled with sour gas.
JMO

I suspect the same Ward. This is about more than their prehistoric thinking and their poor research skills - this is personal; has to be. If it was anything personal about our soldiers or about Mr. Conrade Black they would be all over it - pop guns a blazing!! The msm are proving to be incompetent cowards. Truly pathetic, IMO.

Craigo and Janie (CTV QP) were commenting on the Prime Minister instructing journalists to shine lights in dark corners...they were laughing about that and saying the Prime Minister is secretive, yet he is inviting them to investigate dark corners...The Prime Minister is always ten moves ahead of the msm; well kidlets of msm; here is your chance! Run with it! The blogs have done all the research, just cut and paste like in the old salad days, of the Liberano years.

All of us here at sda know that you at msm are reading everything printed here because Kate has a bigger audience (and her audience actually reads what is written instead of just the want ads in a red rag) than all of the newspapers put together. Read it and weep as your credibility dissolves faster than ice in Haiti.

Hmm...If I were Fox news, or any competitor of the NYT, I would be screaming this at the top of my lungs that they are attempting to coverup their involvement by not reporting the issue.

And the fact that it is not being properly covered by NYT and the BBC would indicate that the publishers/editors are well aware of their improprieties and are complicit in the coverup.

Some are not afraid...

Good climate news bad for alarmists
More worrisome is discovery of possible global-warming collusion
By Lorne Gunter, Edmonton Journal November 22, 2009
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/technology/Good+climate+news+alarmists/2252439/story.html

But Lorne qualifies with:
In the end, this may amount to nothing. But if it were the warming skeptics who had been apparently caught out, you can bet it would be front-page news.
And he ends with:
In the end, this may amount to nothing. But if it were the warming skeptics who had been apparently caught out, you can bet it would be front-page news.

Sorry: Lorne qualifies with:
The messages appear to reveal(and I emphasize that for now they merely appear to reveal) collusion among many of the most prominent global warming theorists to doctor the scientific evidence supporting the theory that man-made emissions are raising the amount of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere thereby trapping too much of the sun's heat and dangerously warming the planet.

Need sleep! Must sleep...

AGW Party Line from Commissar Bob Ward:

"If the hacked e-mails are genuine, they only show that climate researchers are human, and that they speak badly in private about 'sceptics' who accuse them of fraud.

It is inevitable as we approach the crucial meeting in conference in Copenhagen in December that the sceptics would try some stunt to try to undermine a global agreement on climate change. There is no smoking gun, but just a lot of smoke without fire.

• Bob Ward is Policy and Communications Director at the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics and Political Science"

"This climate email-hacking episode is generating more heat than light

Another skirmish has broken out in the long-running battle between climate scientists and so-called sceptics, and this one is likely to lead to more public confusion"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/20/climate-sceptics-email-hacking

Forget HerrCommissar Duranty's Der Slimes: Die Welt is uber all over AGW.

Even mitt der Polar Bearen: "Lebensraum"?

Does AGW mean Der Final Solution?

"Der Klimawandel führt dazu, dass auch der Lebensraum für Eisbären immer kleiner wird"

Eisbaren Goreacle says, It's its all Greek to moi.
...-

Manipulationsvorwürfe
Die Tricks der Forscher beim Klimawandel
(266)
Von Ulli Kulke 22. November 2009, 19:03 Uhr

Hacker haben 1072 interne E-Mails von Forschern eines renommierten britischen Klimawandel-Forschungsinstituts im Internet publiziert. Die so an die Öffentlichkeit gebrachten Dokumente erregen nun unter anderem den Verdacht, dass Datensätze verändert wurden. Das beschert der Zunft ein Glaubwürdigkeitsproblem.

In Anspielung an den großen Skandal, der einst Richard Nixon zum Rücktritt zwang, schreibt der Londoner „Telegraf“ schon vom „Climate Gate“. Die „New York Times“ zitiert einen Forscher, der statt von einem „rauchenden Colt“ gleich von einem „Atompilz“ spricht. Die Klimaforschung hat knapp zwei Wochen vor der Kopenhagener Gipfelkonferenz zum Thema ein kleines Glaubwürdigkeitsproblem, nachdem es Hackern vergangene Woche gelungen war, in das Computersystem des englischen Klimaforschungsinstituts (CRU) der University of East Anglia einzudringen."

http://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article5294872/Die-Tricks-der-Forscher-beim-Klimawandel.html#xmsg_comment

All the news they see fit to print. It is there motto.

"Re: Latest Global Warming news
This story is funny!

Al Gore Wishes He Never Invented The Internet - Minnesotans For Global Warming

George Will always has something good to quote. For example:

Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism.

RealClearPolitics - Oil's Expanding Frontiers

Consensus on global warming? I find contridictions everyday in single articles. For example:

"It is incontrovertible" that the world is warming as a result of human actions, Trenberth said. "The question to me is what to do."

In his new book, "Science as a Contact Sport: Inside the Battle to Save the Earth's Climate," Stanford University climate scientist Stephen H. Schneider details the intense debate over warming, arguing that it has helped slow the nation's public policy response.

Stolen e-mails reveal venomous feelings toward skeptics-washingtonpost.com

"Consensus" is a lie.
__________________
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism. George Will"

"Re: Latest Global Warming news
Here's a quote that kind of says it all when it comes to the credibility of the IPCC and global warming scientists.

From the hacked e-mails:

I tried hard to balance the needs of the science and the IPCC , which were not always the same.

small dead animals: The Sound Of All Hell Breaking Loose: Now Searchable!

But the alarmists will not go down without a fight. That's for sure. The amount of money invested in global warming is too huge to just let go."

http://www.thebubbler.com/forums/wisconsin-political-conversation/25432-latest-global-warming-news-14.html#post108180

Oh, their integrity is preventing them from printing the details, rrriiight. It can't possibly be an attempt to protect an idea that they hold dear. At least they are consistent. Didn't they also spike the story about Obama's Acorn connection?

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/31/did-the-nyt-spike-an-acorn-story-to-benefit-obama/

Tom Paine is bang on. Watergate would never have happened without illegal leaks.

This carbongate.

This cannot be comparable to Watergate.
There are so many differences....
Watergate reinforced an already and ongoing anti-Nixon MSM agenda----
Catbongate compromises an already ongoing warmist MSM agenda!
The left has spent decade infiltrating the MSM....in priciple they simply cannot change their stripes and abandon their agenda....it's just not in their nature.

Bets are on that more than a few CBC and CTV types have drunk the AGW koolaid.

Ken (Kulack) re: msm AGW koolaid: IMO, they drank, drink and will drink it all the time, every day. Having been a bartender, I know the gushy, slather, sebtimental, goof ball frenzied denial that precedes 'falling down drunk, pant wetting dementia'. Some of the msm were born 'intellectually challenged'(lazy), some just drank themselves into the dumbed down mental state via peer pressure and a poor education.

Sad - lack of sunlight synodrome, not a feeling of sorrow for or regret; in this case.

That's strange, because back in the UK before these emails etc were released:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6257987/What-makes-Met-Office-long-term-forecasts-so-wrong.html

and now this, post release:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6927598.ece

NYT seems a little "prissy" about this when their competitors in the UK seem to have no qualms about discussing the issue openly before and after.

This could be a new thread but apparently NewsCorp isn't waiting for the asteroid either:

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpposted/archive/2009/11/23/fp-tech-desk-will-microsoft-pay-ruper-murdoch-to-pull-news-corp-sites-from-google-in-favour-of-bing.aspx

Really, we should posthumously re-award Dick Nixon his presidency, since none of that information was intended to be seen by the public.

Andy Revkin of the NYT is as big a fool as Phil Jones took him for, that much is clear.

Maybe we should google bomb dot Earth? Every time to google "Climate Stooge" for example, Andy Revkin's name will come up.

I see Senate Judiciary hearings in the future...

BTW - Do this search on Google News = CRU!

Hoist by their own petard.......

Is anyone surprised? Come on guys, you forget what put the Drudge Report on the map?

Monica Lewinsky. Drudge had that story all to himself for almost a week before the MSM finally caved. They would have stuffed it down the memory hole and welded the lid on.

They'd do it to this story too. Its who they are. Good thing they can't, eh?