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November 22, 2009

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Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to SDA Late Nite Radio. Tonight, for your delectation, here is Mr. Victor Borge performing some of his classic variations on Happy Birthday ¤ and Part II ¤.

Right, now that we've got the shtick under our belt, additional Borge variations, per Pyotr Tchaikovsky, Frederic Chopin, Johannes Brahms, Franz Liszt, Johann Sebastian Bach, Richard Wagner, Ludwig van Beethoven, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Johann Strauss, Irving Berlin, and "modern music", are also available.

Oh dear ~ I laughed so hard I cried ;-)

Your Reader Tips are, as always, welcome in the comments.

Posted by Vitruvius at November 22, 2009 12:01 AM

Comments

I got my "Friends of Canadian Broadcasting" Confidential CBC Personal Statement along with a covering letter headed "Exposed - Stephen Harper's secret plan to destroy the CBC" in the mail. I'll answer each question negatively & stuff it into the postage paid envelope. Let these morons bankrupt their organization & take the CBC with them.

They ask for thoughts about revitalizing the CBC. My suggestion - privatize it!

This is another poll that could go wrong if enough people respond.

Posted by: sonofAtilla at November 21, 2009 10:06 PM

Victor Borge & Dean Martin - Musical Phonetic Punctuation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7L02tCNi0I&feature=related

Some great things have come from Copenhagen, Victor Borge numbers among them.

My mother always enjoyed the phonetic punctuation schtick.

Great stuff Vit...

Cheers


Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at November 21, 2009 10:08 PM

I love the Borge & Martin sketch, Hans. And don't forget
our September 26, 2007 Late Nite Radio show: Mr. Borge
performing his version of A Mozart Opera.

Posted by: Vitruvius at November 21, 2009 10:17 PM

Saw this grand old man in one of his last performances at the Orpheum; he had his son there as an aide, and I was escorted by my two elderly relatives.
Great times, great memories! Ask anyone under 40 if they know anything about good clean humour and you'll get ... the look!

Posted by: larben at November 21, 2009 10:23 PM

My two favourite pianists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5iCVytIbmk&feature=related

I'm a sucker for piano playing dogs.

Posted by: SDH at November 21, 2009 10:31 PM

That's delightful, SDH. You might also be interested in our
October 30, 2008, Late Nite Radio show; it's another version
of Mr. Borge and colleague performing Franz Liszt´s
Hungarian Rhapsody No.2.

Posted by: Vitruvius at November 21, 2009 10:33 PM

V-SDA Day ...-

"*'The old order changeth, yielding place to new,
And God fulfils himself in many ways,
Lest one good custom should corrupt the world."

The old order is dead.

The old order is dead:

The MSM is dead.
The AGW fraud is dead.
Hope and Change is dead.
The Liberal Party of Canada is dead.

SDA has chronicled the Death of the Old Order.
...-

*"The Passing of Arthur"
http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/Tennyson/tennyson_contents.htm

"Handel - Hallelujah: 14/04/2009: 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF HANDEL'S DEATH"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnHksDFHTQI

Posted by: maz2 at November 21, 2009 10:38 PM

A big thank you to Kate et al for continuing coverage of the revelations from East Anglia. I sent several of the links to my uncle who lives in Prince George, BC. He's Internet-literate but still gets most of his "news" (read "spin") from the MSM. Thus, by definition, he is deeply misinformed about what's going on.

Thinking ahead a bit, can anyone paint me a scenario where the Global Warming Liars recover from this?

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 21, 2009 10:41 PM

Speaking personally Robert W, I'm not convinced that the leak is fatal to AGW. There is so much money and power behind it, it may well take more than this revelation to kill the beast.

Never underestimate man's desire to be deceived.

Posted by: Joe at November 21, 2009 10:51 PM

Martha Stewart thinks "Sarah Palin is dangerous." I kid you not. Watch here

Whether or not Palin ever runs for office again, let me quote Dennis Miller: "I'm going to support Sarah Palin because she really bugs all the right people!"

What I really think is going on here is the elitists showing their true colours. And then their sycophant sheeple just mouth the same talking points.

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 21, 2009 10:57 PM

BBC is removing the comment sections on some climate related articles.

"Because comments were posted quoting excerpts apparently from the hacked Climate Research Unit e-mails, and because there are potential legal issues connected with publishing this material, we have temporarily removed all comments until we can ensure that watertight oversight is in place."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/richardblack/2009/11/copenhagen_countdown_17_days.html

Posted by: ChrisinMB at November 21, 2009 11:01 PM

hmmm... I just ran Richard Black of the BBC through the online database

Michael Mann wrote:
>> extremely disappointing to see something like this appear on BBC. its
>> particularly odd, since climate is usually Richard Black's beat at BBC
>> (and he does a great job). from what I can tell, this guy was formerly
>> a weather person at the Met Office.
>>
>> We may do something about this on RealClimate, but meanwhile it might
>> be appropriate for the Met Office to have a say about this, I might
>> ask Richard Black what's up here?

Posted by: ChrisinMB at November 21, 2009 11:09 PM

I'm with Joe on the AGW stuff; the crap McIntyre and others went through to get access to data/models etc. pretty much proved years ago that something wasn't right, however, the climate change crowd still holds considerable political clout.

I'm at a loss to explain this (other than people are really,really stupid).

Vitruvius, you could post Borge clips every night and I'd think they're all fantastic. He's a lot like Liberace, only talented and funny.

Posted by: SDH at November 21, 2009 11:14 PM

Stephen Harper's and the Canadians' crimes against humanity [/sarc] enumerated here, especially from the middle of the article to the end:
http://www.canada.com/news/Prisoners+tortured+fewer+than+alleged+warden/2251880/story.html

Posted by: andycanuck at November 21, 2009 11:17 PM

WARNING, This story may make you nauseous and/or spit at your computer.http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2009/11/21/harper-journalists-freedom.html

Posted by: wallyj at November 21, 2009 11:19 PM

I agree with Joe, Robert. In the short term, at least, this is just a minor flesh-wound to the AGW promoters. Before people get too excited the key point we need to remind ourselves that belief in AGW has always been an act of self-righteousness and faith based on radical, secular/gaia views; it was *never based on science* in the first place. The AGW agenda is about a political perspective pertaining to anti-capitalism and wealth redistribution, and the mountain of evidence against AGW hasn't changed that.

It's always been about politics, not science. The mainstream media have been propagandizing for years now that AGW is a *fact*. For years now they've been teaching in schools that AGW is a fact, despite all the evidence to the contrary. So, again, is one more piece of evidence really going to reverse all that?

Watch the media in the weeks to come: if the CBC, for example, covers it at all - or MSNBC or CBS, etc. - they'll frame it as a minor bit of intrigue, they'll question the provenance of the leaked emails, and, especially, they'll trot out pro-AGW spokepeople who say the emails don't change the fact that *AGW is real.* They'll show calving glaciers, refer to the thinning arctic ice, etc etc etc.

The Global Warming Liars managed to get people concerned about AGW, and mega-millions spent on carbon sequestration and wind power, etc., by *not* mentioning the questionable science behind AGW, and by fastidiously avoiding the mention of the thousands of scientists who dispute the theory; they haven't acknowledged the numerous holes in the theory, including the lack of catastrophic events during the Medieval Warm Period. In short, AGW promoters have never been interested in the TRUTH, and in fact, as the emails show, they have an interest - a pecuniary interest - in repressing the truth. So while I agree that the emails might damage their cause in the short term, it's going to take years for this to play out. It's *far* from over.

You can count on the following: The World Government types in the EU aren't going to throw up their hands and go home; The AGW activists aren't going to change their dire warnings; The media aren't going to shut up about AGW; Al Gore and the eco-Moonies aren't going to come out this week and say "Whoops! Turns out we were wrong. Sorry about that!"

Let's talk in a couple of months and see if I'm wrong about that.

Posted by: EBD at November 21, 2009 11:35 PM

among the denizens of the Hollywood shtik the ending of your phrase is properly expressed as ...

'i laffed...i cried...i was sick to my stomach.."

Posted by: john begley at November 21, 2009 11:39 PM

Vitruvius, thank you for these Victor Borge clips. I sent the link to one of my daughters who teaches piano and voice. She will love it as I did.

On another note, hopefully the AGW crowd get burnt big time with these revelations of fraud.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at November 21, 2009 11:39 PM

The BBC is the CBC's idol, they're both part of the whole big lie. They make the American networks look good.

Posted by: larben at November 21, 2009 11:41 PM

Thanks for that link, Wally. Here's the comment I left ... which may or may not be posted:

Of course, here in Canada we have an altogether different problem, namely that the vast majority of "journalists" have quite willingly been co-opted by the Liberal Party of Canada and act as their de facto mouthpieces. Nowhere is this more apparent than at CBC News.

Imagine how much better the CBC would be if its "journalists" exhibited even a semblance of impartiality on a consistent basis. And its ratings would soar to lessen somewhat the sting of the vast amount of tax dollars it undemocratically takes from the citizens of Canada.

Well, at least that's my Christmas* Wish for 2010!

* Disclaimer: For those CBC News readers who hate Christianity and Christmas with the legendary fiery intensity that most Secular Humanists seem to, just replace the "C" word with the politically correct term, "Red & White Season".

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 21, 2009 11:46 PM

EBD @ 11:35. If you are right, there is not much hope for freedom. What the he** did I wear a uniform for, even if part time, for thirty four years?

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at November 21, 2009 11:51 PM

Here's the comment I left ... which may or may not be posted:
Good luck . I left two comments. The first one derided the cbc 'jourmalists' for missing the Hadley hacking and Dion's wife's little meltdown. BTW,CTV has that up,cbc,well not yet. The other comment was needling Harper for not taking questions at this event. I wonder if either will be posted. If I was a betting man,and I am,the odds are in favour of the second comment making it.

Posted by: wallyj at November 21, 2009 11:57 PM

I don't know if this has been posted elsewhere-----http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20091121/dion_liberals_091121/20091121?hub=Toronto ---Comments are closed now,but at least they put it up.CBC ,damn they are a disgrace,fire them all.

Posted by: wallyj at November 22, 2009 12:07 AM

"Martha Stewart thinks "Sarah Palin is dangerous." "
Who cares what an ex con thinks?

Posted by: haha at November 22, 2009 12:09 AM

Some interesting commentary here:

http://www.martinarmstrong.org/economic_projections.htm

Martin Armstrong used to run a economic forecasting service until he ran afoul of the US authorities. He was jailed for contempt for 7 years for failing to produce a number of gold bars and other items he claimed were not in his possession; these items have never been located by the state. He is now serving a five year term at Fort Dix, but is allowed to publish free articles which are available on the above web site. He only has access to a typewriter, so don't expect any professional looking documents. However, he has some great ideas. A recent posting on the flight of capital from the US is particularly interesting. (Nov 17 Capital Flight The USA Has Lost its Stature as the Financial Capital of the World )

Posted by: KevinB at November 22, 2009 12:15 AM

An ex-con who is an elitist still thinks s/he is 1,000 times better, smarter, & more righteous than an honest, hard working non-elitist.

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 22, 2009 12:19 AM

Stewart said Palin is dangerous because she's "confused" and to have a "confused" person in government is dangerous - those were her actual remarks.

Yeah, I'd think that someone who said like Palin did that the way to deal with Iran is to impose sanctions on Iraq is "confused". Also: someone who didn't know what the Bush doctrine was when she was running for VP is confused - or at the very least, uninformed. And a person like that in government would, in fact, be dangerous.

But she isn't in gov't. anymore. And likely she won't be again, since 70% of the US public think her unqualified to be president.

What she is, is a joke.

Posted by: bleet at November 22, 2009 12:51 AM

bleet: "What she is, is a joke."

She is not a joke. She has considerable support in the U.S. She may not be Presidential material at this point, but she could easily win a Senate seat and move forward from there. Those that dismiss Palin need to recognize that her views represent the view of many, many Americans.

Posted by: LindaL at November 22, 2009 1:06 AM

wallyj - I think that our Prime Minister was speaking to the real journalists of Canada: Kate, here at sda, Jack's Newswatch, Angry in the GWN, Robert W. Canadian Sentinel, Kathey at 5' of fury, Mark Styne, Ezra Levant, Lorrie Goldstein...not the press gang in Rottawa. He said look into the dark corners...perhaps he was speaking of the 'all hell breaking loose' when the AGW liars and thugs would be caught with their pants down. Perhaps, perfect timing and the 'right move' by our very astute Prime Minister?

Posted by: Jema54 at November 22, 2009 1:09 AM

Dear bleet,

I think the only joke, at least on here, is YOU!

With your superior intelligence, please enlighten us all on precisely what the Bush Doctrine is. After you attempt ... and FAIL, then I'll share with you what someone with the initials "CK" had to say on the subject!

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 22, 2009 1:09 AM

Yeah, I agree she shouldn't have spoken up, might not have noticed her and what a joke she still is, Stewart should just retire, in fact I thought she already did.

Posted by: ldd at November 22, 2009 1:15 AM

Thanks, Jema! Hey, they actually published my comment ... and some are giving it the thumbs up though of course the Rabid Left rules that site so there's little chance of any common sense rising to the top over there.

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 22, 2009 1:20 AM

Ah, sigh. Victor Borge, Anna Russell, people who could make us laugh because we knew the things of which they gently and respectfully mocked - sadly, brains don't count anymore. We seem to need fart jokes every two minutes to keep people involved.

Posted by: Erik Larsen at November 22, 2009 1:20 AM

Saskatchewan's Brad Wall has committed what is possibly the worst example of fiscal incompetence in the history of the province:

The ministry's miscalculation on potash shaved two percentage points off the province's projected economic growth of 2.1 per cent in the 2009-10 budget. Economic growth is now expected to come in at negative 2.9 per cent -- a full five-percentage-point drop from the budget projection.

For its part, the NDP Opposition called Gantefoer's gaffe "the biggest example of fiscal incompetence in the history of Saskatchewan.'' In absolute dollar terms, it may be.

From a projected deficit of $25 million (on a summary basis, which includes Crown corporations), the ministry is now forecasting a deficit of $1.05 billion in 2009-10 -- an unbudgeted $1-billlion shortfall.

http://www.leaderpost.com/opinion/Numbers+nightmare+finance+minister/2249808/story.html

Posted by: Stephen at November 22, 2009 1:22 AM

bleet; has the Big O ever found the extra 7 States he was expounding? I was thinking Western Canada and the Territories might be them.
He also said his Uncle Helped Liberate Auschwitz; but it was really Buchenwald. But who really cares about semantics?
So was the Iran Iraq flub that big a deal? Only to Yellow Journalists I'm sure.
And there was no Bush Doctrine. It's another of the left's fantasies.

Posted by: Gunney99 at November 22, 2009 1:27 AM

LindaL, Barack Obama had considerable support in the US too, and he got elected, and that wasn't a good thing for the US IMHO.

Palin reminds me of nitroglycerin - every time I'm afraid when I see her. She may be a dynamic and engaging person, but presidential material she is not.

I want someone who is reliable and trustworthy. I want to see more Bobby Jindal.

Posted by: Erik Larsen at November 22, 2009 1:51 AM

Erik, I'm a big fan of Palin's Common Sense Conservatism though accept that she might not yet be ready to be POTUS.

With that said, there's a big difference between your intelligent, thoughtful comment and those of people who make assinine ignorant ones like we saw earlier. What's particularly interesting is how when you challenge anonymous trolls to support their statements with facts, they suddenly can no longer crawl out from their mothers' basements!

Posted by: Robert W. at November 22, 2009 2:06 AM

Palin was chosen by Bill Kristol to be John McCain's running mate in the hope that she would enliven the Religious Right base which was so crucial to Bush's success in 2000 and 2004.

The GOP, of course, has always been on the look-out for religious, "folksy" people to front their anti-Christian 'rob the poor for the benefit of the wealthy elite' agenda. They've always been on the look-out for a plain-talkin' figurehead to fool the dupes into voting against their own best interests.

They had Reagan, of course - but then he had the prior notoriety of his acting career to solidify his 'appeal'. Then they had GW Bush - but then he had the family name to give him creedence and familiarity.

Well, Palin's got the simple-talkin' 'common person' thing down - as she continually reminds us. But beyond that - what? Her ongoing, whining, blame-casting sense of grievance, coupled with her snide put-downs of others as not being 'real Americans'?

Hey we know that appeals to you guys, 'cause that's where you're at: whining about how you're oppressed as you demonize others. You're among the 30% who support her...about the same percentage as GWBush had at the end of his term.

Posted by: bleet at November 22, 2009 2:21 AM

bleet
tell me when the obamessiah gets to 30%,
Im guessing feb 2010.
the most spectacular burnout since the rockets red glare.
the bombs bursting in error.
gave true to our light that Obamas still there.
oh say can you see our far mangled banner
in the land without free
and the home so depraved.

Posted by: cal2 at November 22, 2009 2:39 AM

Robert W - she has been, and will always be treated unfairly by "the press", viz the cover of Newsweek that was photographed for Runners World. Ridiculous to treat her that way!

I heard someone mention that maybe Oprah would sell her show to Palin. That almost makes financial and "story arc" sense.

Palin has a great life story, and inspires many, but she's missing some critical ingredients for the highest office.

Cheers~!

Posted by: Erik Larsen at November 22, 2009 2:41 AM

Erik, I trust you also believe that Barack Obama (and Joe Biden while we're at it) are missing some critical ingredients for the highest office too, right?

Posted by: Robert W. at November 22, 2009 2:53 AM

Bleet, Palin and Obama are both cartoon characters.

I long for the days when there were serious and studied leaders in the US. As mentioned many times here before, Harry Truman was the last great leader of a once great country.

Since his time, the desire for a quick buck, combined with a multifactorially-etiologically driven ever-weakening of their society has doomed us all.

Posted by: Erik Larsen at November 22, 2009 2:53 AM

Hey, if you don't want people to print a picture of you,don't pose for it. So what if it was shot for Runner's World? The idea that she's being treated "unfairly" when a picture she willingly posed for is printed is another bogus opportunity for her and her supporters to whine about her imaginary victimhood.

BTW what's she doing with the American flag in that picture - using it as some sort of cheeky prop, the way it's draped over that chair? Aren't there laws about that sort of thing? Isn't the flag supposed to be treated with some degree of respect?

Posted by: bleet at November 22, 2009 2:55 AM

Bleet, you coward, you woosy-boy, you wimpy anonymous troll ... you never answered the key question put to you based ON YOUR own assertion: What was the Bush Doctrine that Sarah Palin was too "stupid" to know?

We're waiting for your enlightened response, little man!!!

Posted by: Robert W. at November 22, 2009 2:55 AM

Erik, I don't disagree with you. Sadly, Mary Landrieu, who just got bought off by $300 Million, supposedly represents "enlightened thinking" amongst politicians these days. :-(

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/21/AR2009112102272_pf.html

Posted by: Robert W. at November 22, 2009 2:59 AM

Robert W - Reid, Pelosi, Obama, and Biden - oh man, I could name a few of my close friends who are far better qualified to serve the US government than those four! (and they're all Canadian)

The US has elected a sadly unserious bunch of people to govern their country

Posted by: Erik Larsen at November 22, 2009 3:00 AM

Yet another post and THE COWARD aka "Bleet" still refuses to back up his comment that Sarah Palin didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was. Simple question: What is the Bush Doctrine, Bleet?

Folks, let me share with you a perfect example of the ignorant, unclear twits on the Left that Bleet so clearly epitomizes. Listen to this caller phoning into Dennis Prager's show earlier this year.

Posted by: Robert W. at November 22, 2009 3:02 AM

Robert W - the high rolling going on right now is exposing so many political shenanigans south of the 49th it turns the stomach!!!

"How much can I extort from the federal government to please my constituents, while borrowing from the Chinese, and concomitantly screwing my descendants?"

Pathetic

Since states don't have their own printing presses, they need to rely on the federal government for $$ transfers, because local tax bases have evaporated.

Posted by: Erik Larsen at November 22, 2009 3:06 AM

Erik, thank you, especially for your last post. You're a stand up fellow!

Now contrast yourself with Michelle Goldberg, the woman in the video I linked to the other day (debating Ann Althouse). Goldberg, with a seemingly straight face, stated that Barack Obama is the finest president America has ever had.

Technically I suppose she's Jewish but clearly her real religion is Extreme Left Fanaticism. For only a "true believer" can stand there and defend everything that Barack Obama has done.

P.S. And yes, I do acknowledge that there are some on the right like that too but I don't sense nearly as many. For those on the Radical Left, their belief system is much more akin to a religion. Which I think allows them to make terribly decisions - ie. "the ends justify the means".

Posted by: Robert W. at November 22, 2009 3:11 AM

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww, mindless little conservabot Robbie is just straining at his leash to quote Krauthammer's "riposte" to Gibson asking Palin about the Bush doctrine. He's got all his spoonfed talking points just *burning* inside of him as he yips and leaps frantically to quote Krauthammer's assertion that, hey, there's actually four or five different meanings of the "Doctrine"! And just like Krauthammer, little Robert's here to say that the fact that Palin couldn't define the doctrine behind the rationale of the wars her country is embroiled in doesn't mean a darn thing - even if she's running to be Vice President of that country! So stop pickin' on her, you meanies! None of you are "real Americans" anyway! So there!

Posted by: bleet at November 22, 2009 3:14 AM

Erik, I think the only way the tide will turn in America is when enough individuals directly feel the weight in their own lives of how much debt their government has incurred on their behalf.

An example of this tide change occurred in Los Angeles recently, with UCLA students complaining about huge tuition hikes.

Yet if these same students, at what is clearly a left-wing institution, were interviewed, I bet you anything we'd find that the vast majority of them voted for tax & spend Democrats both federally and in their state. This didn't bother them when they thought that such taxes were going to be inflicted on someone else, but now ... to quote a famous pastor ... The Chickens Are Coming Home To Roost!

Posted by: Robert W. at November 22, 2009 3:18 AM

Well Bleet, at least you cleared something up. You made it perfectly clear that you are a coward. What we didn't know was whether:
1. You were ignorant.
2. You were a liar.

With the help of Google you lessened #1 a tad but your earlier statement clearly makes you a LIAR!!!!

You have so much H-A-T-E to spread around, Bleet. I'll let you get back to that!

Posted by: Robert W. at November 22, 2009 3:22 AM

bleet - why are you wasting your time on this blog when you could be buying up shares on Gores carbon exchange? Hurry before you miss out or your main man Gore takes off his blue dress.

Posted by: suggestion at November 22, 2009 3:24 AM

bleet, you are not impressing me with your posts.

PS - Palin was very inexperienced - I could have knocked that one out of the park without knowing a thing about the Bush doctrine.

Ya just say "what particular things do you want to know about the Bush doctrine?", or "there are different definitions of the Bush doctrine, about which would you like me to speak"?

The media doesn't really care about the answers themselves, the questioners just want to look clever through their emoting and verbiage

Posted by: Erik Larsen at November 22, 2009 3:32 AM

EBD: "In the short term, at least, this is just a minor flesh-wound to the AGW promoters."

I don't think so. Prior to the whistleblower there was a public opinion shift away from the promoters. This was in spite of the marketing efforts of MSM. The doom didn't happen, and people actually noticed it was cold outside. This information will drop the numbers further and, I believe, those that have and will abandon this nonsense, will do so forever ... and it certainly won't get others to jump onto the AGW bandwagon.

At some point the critical mass will be gone. They really needed the scam to be sewn up about 2-3 years ago.

Posted by: ∞² at November 22, 2009 4:34 AM

infinity squared - your posts are sage indeed, but I agree with EBD.

It's hard to argue with religion, and AGW is a religion

Facts don't matter. Emotion does, cheers, me

Posted by: Erik Larsen at November 22, 2009 4:54 AM

Liberal Citoyen Dion's Wife's Smoking Gun.
...-

"That Krieber manifesto, short version
by Colby Cosh on Sunday, November 22, 2009

1. I believe the Liberal Party of Canada is destined to become a miserable component of ephemeral coalitions, like the liberal parties in Europe, because it refused to submerge its identity in an ephemeral coalition, the way the liberal parties in Europe did.

2. Our party was inherently doomed from the moment Mr. Martin ousted Mr. Chrétien. So my husband’s subsequent leadership really never had a chance. Nonetheless, given a chance, my husband certainly could have saved the party; it would be quite wrong to suggest that it was doomed.

3. Nothing good at all can come of using polls to attack a party leader, but did I happen to mention how badly Mr. Ignatieff is doing in the polls?

4. I dream of a party where the order of the day is happiness, and not assassination. Now excuse me for a few moments while I disassemble, clean, and conceal this fragrantly smoking .50-calibre rifle I’ve just noticed lying at my feet."

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/11/22/that-krieber-manifesto-short-version/

Posted by: maz2 at November 22, 2009 8:59 AM

Over at the UN News center they have a story on how 'climate change aggravates gender inequality'. Nothing on the hacking,of course. Anyways this story on gender inequality includes this nugget---"In the aftermath of disasters, many women who were not allowed to leave their homes without a male relative have perished, while others who never learned how to swim also lost their lives."--- In true UN style there is nothing said about why these women are in this situation,it is that nasty 'climate change' that is causing their deaths.--- http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=33005&Cr=climate+change&Cr1=

Posted by: wallyj at November 22, 2009 11:33 AM

one for vit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLmlz34BUlk&feature=related

Posted by: cal2 at November 22, 2009 12:10 PM

Iggy and the reverse hockey stick.the dapper blade is the shaft.


http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/communityofinterest/archive/2009/11/21/doomed-ignatieff-broke-political-golden-rule.aspx

Posted by: cal2 at November 22, 2009 12:26 PM

I agree with Joe, Robert. In the short term, at least, this is just a minor flesh-wound to the AGW promoters.
- EBD

My first instinct was to disagree. But with a more careful reading (always advisable with EDB comments) I agree. But notice EBD says "AGW promoters" not AGW itself. AGW is done, but the promoters will cotton onto new enviro-statist memes.

Let's face it: Reagan didn't defeat communism (what doesn't kill you makes you stronger!). The Fall of the Wall was not the end of communism. The Cold War didn't end. Communism, or if you prefer, STATISM, will continue to expand like the very universe. Just look at economics: Keynes was irrefutably de-bunked INTELLECTUALLY but it's back, BIG TIME. The entire G20 project -- a co-ordinated reflation of the world economy -- is Keynesian to its very core. And it will bring a global depression of unimagined severeity. Keynes didn't understand economics-- he just made stuff up; he had ONE course in economics. He merely dressed up statism in impenetrable jargon and was believed because he was a member of the ruling elite.

Palin reminds me of nitroglycerin - every time I'm afraid when I see her.
Posted by: Erik Larsen at November 22, 2009 1:51 AM

Man, Erik, that explains EXACTLY what happened to me with her O'Reilly interview. I got so bloody nervous I bailed. Elsewhere I've stated I did so because I can't stand the factor-twit, but that wasn't really true. While I really love the woman and share her values, she really, really makes me nervous: I always feel like I'm watching a developing train wreck.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at November 22, 2009 12:39 PM

Me No Dhimmi: I for one would like to encourage someone for leadership who doesn't have the "debating" abilities of the Ivy Leagues. So often these people turn out to be empty suits as the present One has. I also have to remember how Regan was assaulted by the media and dismissed by the Party faithful in his first attempts at running for nomination. Palin was just thrown into the arena prematurely. Naturally she doesn't fit in with the elitist establishment of the Republican Party and that may be a good thing if your looking for a positive future.

Posted by: Gunney99 at November 22, 2009 2:10 PM

MSM begins the Liberal Donolo-pushback with:

1. DeKommished: "for the time being".

"He's [Donolo] told the election-readiness team to stand down, sending war room head Warren Kinsella, who had been coming to Ottawa several days a week helping to plot question period attack strategy, back to Toronto for the time being."

2. "No more". The burning bush strategy. Iffy's Motto-to-be: I am the IAM. Mess with Me? You gonna get burned.

"... the week offered another glimpse of Donolo's strategy when it comes to attacks on Ignatieff or the party. Liberals went on a ferocious, all-out counter-attack against a Tory leaflet, mailed to ridings with large Jewish populations, that suggested a link between Liberals and anti-Semitism."

http://www.google.com/ hostednews...NQDmwUBoE20iMdA

Posted by: maz2 at November 22, 2009 2:46 PM

Speaking of Kinsella, I've heard that he's agreed to be the campaign manager for John Tory's bid to be Mayor of Toronto.

It doesn't make sense. Agreed, that John Tory is not a genuine Conservative or Progressive Conservative; he's basically a Liberal.

But, Kinsella has been working with Ignatieff and Kinsella is a confirmed Chretien Liberal. Would he really work with someone nominally a PC?

And wasn't it the case that either Tory or Smitherman would run for mayor but not both? And Smitherman has already declared his intention.

And hasn't John Tory lost every political campaign he's been in over the last few years, including an Ontario provincial election as leader, his own seat, and another try for a seat, and also the leadership of the Ontario Progressive Conservative Party?

Note - don't ever confuse the Ontario Progressive Conservative Party with the federal Conservatives. The Ontario PC are Liberal-Lite.

Posted by: ET at November 22, 2009 3:25 PM

bleet - you STILL haven't answered the key question of 'what is THE Bush doctrine'? After all, you sneered at Palin's response to this question. So, we are sneering at your lack of response. Bleet- without looking up Krauthammer, do you know what is the Bush Doctrine? hmmm?

Me no dhimmi/erik - I don't see Palin as nitroglycerin but as a searing honesty. We are so used to the emptyhead/suit 'virtual rhetoric' of politicians who talk and talk but say nothing concrete - that when we hear someone speak, and actually mean what they say, it's like an ice cold shower.

Think of Obama; he lives in a fantasy world; nothing, absolutely nothing he says has any relation to the real world. He'll say one set of 'let me be clear' to one audience and the contrary to the next day's audience. No promise is valid for more than one hour.

Then, you get Palin - and her words are bonded to reality; her promises aren't meant to manipulate you but to express her sincere agenda. Obama's agenda is to make you vote for him, to put you in his power. He has no intention of keeping his promises.

Her statements, if they are incorrect, aren't manipulative misinformation as they are with Obama (we've saved millions of jobs; I've cut taxes..)..but are genuine errors.

And she speaks for 'everyday Americans'. Not the leftist socialists. Not the Washington crowd.

EBD - I competely agree with you and others that this AGW collapse of factual data will be a mere blip in their agenda. After all, their basic agenda never had anything to do with the ecology of the planet.

It's been, right from the start, a deliberate UN strategy of anti-capitalism and anti-western agenda to get capitalist, Western money into the hands of the corrupt 'developing' nations. Not as loans and not even to develop 'clean industries'. Just to force the West to support the UN babies.

Posted by: ET at November 22, 2009 3:48 PM

ET: Oh, I certainly agree with your positive remarks about Palin, and yeah, I think she's a breath of fresh air. And I think she's smart and also experienced enough. That said, like Erik, I do find myself very nervous and anxious when she's in an interview situation. She needs to be a little less NICE and push back against unfair gotcha questions, esp. those for which she couldn't be expected to provide detailed answers, not being in the power loop.

EXPLODING HEADS. Glenn Beck has apparently said he'd vote for her just to see lefty heads explode.
I get that sentiment, but after 8 years of BDS can America take another period of PDS?

Someone mentioned the lefty baiting of Reagan. But it wasn't derangement as we saw with Bush. The question is tho: had Reagan been in the internet era would he have been as abused as Bush?

What I's saying -- and maybe I'm dreaming -- is that America needs a leader who can espouse limited government and market solutions with authority, style, humour and panache WITHOUT making the left insane.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at November 22, 2009 5:12 PM

The last segment of Roy Green's show today was very interesting. You can listen to it here beginning at 33:00.

At first he had on a pro-Palin woman from the U.S. She was even a little too gushing for my taste. But then he let Canadians call up and express their views on Palin. The first one was pro-Palin, but the rest were VERY anti-Palin.

Most "instructive" to me were the many women who phoned in. From them I "learned" that:

1) Sarah Palin is not a real woman because she's not Pro-Choice.

2) Sarah Palin is letting her family down by not staying home. Roy asked her if she would say the same thing about a man ... and there was an uncomfortable silence, then a little truth was revealed.

3) Sarah Palin is a complete fool because she hasn't bought into the Man-made Global Warming Theory.

4) Barack Obama isn't succeeding so well because of an inherent racism in America.

All of this came out of the mouths of Canadian women living in urban areas. If even one of them has ever considered voting anything other than NDP or Liberal in their entire lives, I would be absolutely shocked!

You know the old expression, "Give an idiot a rope and he'll hang himself" ? I think that is PRECISELY what is going on here with Sarah Palin.

Let me be clear, thoughtful people like Erik Larsen and Me No Dhimmi make excellent points, which I fully understand and acknowledge.

But those who blurt out the asinine views like the callers to Roy Green's show did, speak volumes about the bigotry & double-standards of themselves. If you ever hear similar things in person, perform the following simple litmus test:

Ask them if Barack Obama is doing a good job as President and if Joe Biden is ready to step into the Presidential role. Their response to this pair of questions will tell you a WHOLE LOT about the person you're speaking with!

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 22, 2009 5:39 PM

The last segment of Roy Green's show today was very interesting. You can listen to it here: http://www.corusradio.com/Shared/AudioVault/CKNWAMaudioVault.asp?VaultDate=20091122&VaultTime=13&mysubmit=Listen at 33:00.

At first he had on a pro-Palin woman from the U.S. She was even a little too gushing for my taste. But then he let Canadians call up and express their views on Palin. The first one was pro-Palin, but the rest were VERY anti-Palin.

Most "instructive" to me were the many women who phoned in. From them I "learned" that:

1) Sarah Palin is not a real woman because she's not Pro-Choice.

2) Sarah Palin is letting her family down by not staying home. Roy asked her if she would say the same thing about a man ... and there was an uncomfortable silence, then a little truth was revealed.

3) Sarah Palin is a complete fool because she hasn't bought into the Man-made Global Warming Theory.

4) Barack Obama isn't succeeding so well because of an inherent racism in America.

All of this came out of the mouths of Canadian women living in urban areas. If even one of them has ever considered voting anything other than NDP or Liberal in their entire lives, I would be absolutely shocked!

You know the old expression, "Give an idiot a rope and he'll hang himself" ? I think that is PRECISELY what is going on here with Sarah Palin.

Let me be clear, thoughtful people like Erik Larsen and Me No Dhimmi make excellent points, which I fully understand and acknowledge.

But those who blurt out the asinine views like the callers to Roy Green's show did, speak volumes about the bigotry & double-standards of themselves. If you ever hear similar things in person, perform the following simple litmus test:

Ask them if Barack Obama is doing a good job as President and if Joe Biden is ready to step into the Presidential role. Their response to this pair of questions will tell you a WHOLE LOT about the person you're speaking with!

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 22, 2009 5:40 PM

For those who think that Palin is not "ready" to be president I would ask just who was ready to be president?

FDR? He who thought the sun shone out of Papa Joe's butt?

Give'm Hell Harry? The failed haberdasher?

Ike? The guy who was able to keep all the big egos from losing the war?

JFK? The guy whose biggest claim to fame was that he lost his boat?

Johnson? The guy who loved to shed his pants in public?

Tricky Dicky? Lost to JFK because he didn't wear the right makeup for TV.

Ford? Never elected president or vice president.

Carter? Peanut farmer with a boozy brother.

Regan? Greatest claim to fame was playing second fiddle to a monkey.

Bush? CIA chief

Clinton? Whitewater

Bush Jr? Recovering booze hound.

Obama? MeMeMeIIIMeMeMe.

If Palin is not ready for the Presidency then she comes from a long line of likewise not ready to be president presidents.

Posted by: Joe at November 22, 2009 7:04 PM

Joe, absolutely hilarious! My only qualm is that you didn't have enough "Me"'s for Obama. But I don't know if Kate has enough server space to represent just how narcissistic he is!!!

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at November 22, 2009 7:58 PM

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Posted by: Charles MacDonald at November 22, 2009 9:02 PM

I took EBD's "promoters" to mean the useful idiots. I have no doubt that the UN backers have a Plan B, Plan C etc. But things have changed since they started the AGW grift ... including the slow death of MSM and the rise of the internet.

The FOIA emails show that they (the useful idiots) were full of fear and the publishing of those emails did nothing to diminish these fears. Can't help but think of Tim Larkin's newsletter "The Importance Of Mind Games":

http://tinyurl.com/yhrvy6p

I don't think the next attempt will be as easy to conceal as this one. I also think that they picked AGW because they thought it was the easiest target with the biggest payoff.

Posted by: ∞² at November 22, 2009 9:47 PM

Re: "Speaking of Kinsella, I've heard that he's agreed to be the campaign manager for John Tory's bid to be Mayor of Toronto."

What, is there a rule that the obnoxiousness of the campaign manager multiplied by that of the candidate is supposed to be a constant?

Posted by: nv53 at November 23, 2009 3:21 AM
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