Kate - link is down

Wow, if this is true, I think the CRU is toast. All of their emails will be released via "Freedom Of Information" request as . FOI, what an Orwellian name for a law that really protects government bureaucrats and not the people they are supposed to serve.

Try the google cache:

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:UgPekqsnryMJ:www.climateaudit.org/%3Fp%3D7801+http://www.climateaudit.org/%3Fp%3D7801%23comments&hl=en&client=safari&strip=1

Climate Audit seems to be under heavy demand right now.

Oooo, caught with the hand in the cookie jar! Naughty!

See, this is why I don't believe in these perfect conspiracies, like the ATF brass knew about Oklahoma City, like the 9/11 Troofers, ad nauseam. Somebody -always- squeals.

http://www.examiner.com/x-28973-Essex-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m11d19-Hadley-CRU-hacked-with-release-of-hundreds-of-docs-and-emails

"Hadley CRU hacked with release of hundreds of docs and emails
November 19, 9:42 PMEssex County Conservative ExaminerTerry Hurlbut

The University of East Anglia's Hadley Climatic Research Centre appears to have suffered a security breach earlier today, when an unknown hacker apparently downloaded 1079 e-mails and 72 documents of various types and published them to an anonymous FTP server. These files appear to contain highly sensitive information that, if genuine, could prove extremely embarrassing to the authors of the e-mails involved. Those authors include some of the most celebrated names among proponents of the theory of anthropogenic global warming (AGW).

The FTP link first appeared on a blog called The Air Vent. The blog's owner, identified as "Jeff Id", downloaded the file, examined it, and posted a brief summary on his blog. Another commenter, identified as "Steven Mosher," passed the information on to Steven McIntyre's Climate Audit blog and to another blog, The Blackboard, run by a blogger identified as "Lucia." Most recently, blogger Anthony Watts, who runs a blog titled "Watts Up With That?" mentioned the FTP archive in his own blog.

Commentary on all the blogs involved has been brisk, except, oddly enough, at The Air Vent, where only seven comments have been received.

The FTP server is in a Russian domain and uses the anonymous FTP protocol, which does not require a pre-registered user account or password for downloading. The file is named FOI2009.zip, an apparent reference to US Public Law 89-554, 80 Stat. 383, the Freedom of Information Act.

Some of the most embarrassing e-mails are attributed to Philip Jones, the Director of the CRU; Keith Briffa, his assistant; Michael E. Mann of the University of Virginia; Malcolm Hughes at the University of Arizona; and others. One such e-mail makes references to the famous "hockey-stick" graph published by Mann in the journal Nature:

I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.

The emphasis in the above quote was added.

As embarrassing as the e-mails are, some of the documents are more embarrassing. They include a five-page PDF document titled The Rules of the Game, that appears to be a primer for propagating the AGW message to the average subject/resident of the United Kingdom. The document suggests that it is a precis of a longer document housed at the Web site of the UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs."

Looks like this is going viral...

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"

the age of digital fallout is upon us.

my take on this?

we haven't heard the last of it by a long shot.

The ftp is down now.
Who wants a copy? It's 62MB though.

ChrisinMB, I'll take one copy please.

email: footballpool2009 at mail.com

Please email a copy to frackow at gmail.com

my email is capped at 36MB, I'll split it up and try emailing it to kate

Oh dearie dear - mice!

ChrisinMB - any chance you could get it onto a torrent?

In light of the Hadley hacking it's somewhat fitting that this got by the equally formidable media firewall in der Speigel today:

===========================
Climatologists Baffled by Global Warming Time Out

Source: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,662092,00.html
==================================

The truth always comes out.

"ChrisinMB - any chance you could get it onto a torrent?"
I'm not sure how, never done it before

Put a copy on filedropper then post the link back to us:

http://www.filedropper.com/

It's free. 5GB file limit.

Get it to filedropper. Will get it to torrent.

doing it now...

May take awhile, it's only uploading at around 40kb/s. I'll put up the link as soon as it's done.

Keep on rockin' in the free world!

Real, fake, whatever. The people have to decide for themselves.

Suspense!

Download sites (from WUWT comments) are:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=75J4XO4T
and
http://rapidshare.com/files/309496568/FOI2009.zip.html

I haven't personally tried these sites and got my copy from the Russian ftp server before it went down.

I posted a comment at WUWT about how much time we should spend on it. Being curious, I'm sure that everyone will want to download their own copy as I did but IMHO it is worth 1/8 of our combined brainpower to analyze in detail while we use the remaining 7/8 to see what kind of deception this might have been should it turn out to be one. To decide if you immerse yourself in the file for days to weeks or continue on as normal flip a coin 3 times. If you get 3 heads in a row start going through the file (I got 3 tails so the file will sit temptingly on my hard drive for now).

UP FREEDOM!

The Megaupload link works.

I love the smell of Copenhagen in the morning.

Apparently up as a torrent now:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5171206

Way to go people. Give em he**. Expose the scumbags for the one world proponents that they are. Hopefully Strong, Soros and Gore get hammered as well.

My upload is 75% done, almost there.
btw, this is a copy of the first text I seen promoting the files:

We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to be kept under wraps.

We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents.
Hopefully it will give some insight into the science and the people behind it.

This is a limited time offer, download now: http://ftp.tomcity.ru/incoming/free/FOI2009.zip

Sample:

0926010576.txt * Mann: working towards a common goal
1189722851.txt * Jones: "try and change the Received date!"
0924532891.txt * Mann vs. CRU
0847838200.txt * Briffa & Yamal 1996: "too much growth in recent years makes it difficult to derive a valid age/growth curve"
0926026654.txt * Jones: MBH dodgy ground
1225026120.txt * CRU's truncated temperature curve
1059664704.txt * Mann: dirty laundry
1062189235.txt * Osborn: concerns with MBH uncertainty
0926947295.txt * IPCC scenarios not supposed to be realistic
0938018124.txt * Mann: "something else" causing discrepancies
0939154709.txt * Osborn: we usually stop the series in 1960
0933255789.txt * WWF report: beef up if possible
0998926751.txt * "Carefully constructed" model scenarios to get "distinguishable results"
0968705882.txt * CLA: "IPCC is not any more an assessment of published science but production of results"
1075403821.txt * Jones: Daly death "cheering news"
1029966978.txt * Briffa - last decades exceptional, or not?
1092167224.txt * Mann: "not necessarily wrong, but it makes a small difference" (factor 1.29)
1188557698.txt * Wigley: "Keenan has a valid point"
1118949061.txt * we'd like to do some experiments with different proxy combinations
1120593115.txt * I am reviewing

I wonder how long it will take the MSM to report this.

Never?

here we go!

http://www.filedropper.com/foi2009

Bit torrent up

http://www.mininova.org/tor/3168330

Very interesting! Talk about poking a stick in a hornets' nest. We should be in for fun few weeks of claims and counter-claims.

Hey kids, make sure you use Peer Block (google it and learn). I got some NATO C3 agency action the minute I looked at all this stuff.

What they do, I don't know. Vague govt. website etc.

Also check out Opera Tor. Just make sure you secure the browser a bit more, they don't do that by default. Runs off a USB stick too.

Oh yeah, almost forgot...you can use Peer Block to block the entire country of China. See iblocklist.com

http://iblocklist.com/list.php?list=cn

Gives me that warm fuzzy feeling when I look at my logs.

"I wonder how long it will take the MSM to report this.
Never?"

Posted by: LEDA at November 20, 2009 12:33 AM

I would expect either Lorne Gunter or Lorrie Goldstein would be the most likely to pick up on the story if the hack is not a hoax.

The implications of the revelations of the information in the hack is mind-numbing.

Torrenty goodness: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5171206/Hadley_CRU_Files_%28FOI2009.zip%29

"information in the hack is mind-numbing"

This looks like much more than a simple hack, way too much info and documentation here. Even old Fortran code and statistical data is included. Looks to me like the work of a very dedicated mole or perhaps... even someone's government intelligence agency? I don't even recognize half the file extensions in this thing.

"Hadley CRU are the Enron of science."

Ouch, that's going to leave a mark.

H/T Eric Smith over at WUWT

I have scanned some of the emails. They are shocking.

Here is a group of people whose "science" is (unfortunately) being relied upon to set major policy by nearly every country in the world, and yet they appear to be a bunch of utterly immature juveniles.

Of course, why should we not be surprised.

I hope this thing turns out to be as big as it looks.

Just looked at the contents very briefly and it appears they uploaded the whole show.

Looks like it includes Mann & Briffa data sets, program files, old program files, map plots, including propaganda methods to change public perception etc.

Somebody dumped a whole lot of data out there for a reason...

This appears to support the "tailor the data" to the theory story.

I would agree with ChrisinMB way too much data for a simple hoax, somebody has gone to a lot of trouble here to get this all out.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"

HOT Proposal - Page 7

"Climate change scientists are unable to define what would be an acceptable level and time-frame for global concentrations of greenhouse gases to be stabilised. This is because the evaluation of climate change risks is essentially a political issue. Moreover, scientific uncertainties make it very difficult to assess the likelihood of possible climate change events and thus to quantify the risks of climate change. In short, the climate change issue is characterised as an unstructured problem where both the values at stake as well as the science is uncertain and subject of debate."

Nice. They then cut and pasted a bit:

http://www.ivm.vu.nl/en/Images/HOTF9D983D0-265E-48CE-A18FED7DFD1D1DB8_tcm53-102575.pdf

"Problem
How does HOT help?
The ultimate objective of the Climate Change Convention (UNFCCC) is to stabilize greenhouse gas
concentrations at levels that prevent dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system.
Climate change scientists are unable to define what would be an acceptable level and time-frame for
stabilizing global concentrations of greenhouse gases. This is because defining acceptable and
unacceptable risks of climate change and climate change policies is essentially a political issue."

Ummm...yeah. And we should trust these people...why again?

Well, we want to stabilize gases at some level. But we don't know what the acceptable level is.

Thinking people everywhere need to rise up and call bullshit on this whole operation. These are desperate people trying to justify their high paying paper pushing jobs. Nothing more.

Read:
CRU-sr-external-input.pdf

Got the entire download...just fascinating. Don't download it if you have to be up early or plan to spend the weekend doing anything.

Consensus "science" at its best:

"At 17:07 27/10/2009, Michael Mann wrote:

Hi Phil,
Thanks--we know that. The point is simply that if we want to talk about about a
meaningful "2009" anomaly, every additional month that is available from which to
calculate an annual mean makes the number more credible. We already have this for
GISTEMP, but have been awaiting HadCRU to be able to do a more decisive update of the
status of the disingenuous "globe is cooling" contrarian talking point,
mike
p.s. be a bit careful about what information you send to Andy and what emails you copy
him in on. He's not as predictable as we'd like
On Oct 27, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Phil Jones wrote:

Mike,
Yes a link will be fine.
I'll look into Sept numbers, but you shouldn't be looking at individual months.
Cheers
Phil

I predict a lot of "no comment" words will be spoken to reporters tomorrow who call the names in the emails. I wonder if the main players in this saga will co-ordinate their damage control message or will it be every scientist form themselves.

"I wonder if the main players in this saga will co-ordinate their damage control message..."

One thing is for sure, they won't be emailing each other about it. ;)

Just keep remembering that this whole thing got its wheels by journalists becoming celebrities (or vice-versa). Or maybe it was pseudo-scientists becoming celebrities, it's hard to tell these days.

Honesty somehow got thrown under the bus, sacrificed to negligent "go-along-withism", willful myopia and a determined effort to NOT perform due diligence.

The next "crisis" will be the notion of government financially bailing-out the newspapers because of their current state, in the name of preserving the freedom of the press.

If true, I can imagine the major players looking out of country to get facial reconstruction surgery. lmao

If true, I can imagine the major players looking out of country to get facial reconstruction surgery. lmao

If true, I can imagine the major players looking out of country to get facial reconstruction surgery. lmao

If true, I can imagine the major players looking out of country to get facial reconstruction surgery. lmao

"Hang onto yer hat Granny....
Hell just came for breakfast."

Dan George---from the movie "the Outlaw Josie Wales."

If true, I can imagine the major players looking out of country to get facial reconstruction surgery. lmao

Sorry for multiple posts. (stupid cell phone !)

After reading a number of the emails a picture emerges.

These so-called scientists are all in cahoots, scratching each others back, and all utterly consumed with their belief that global warming is occurring.

This truly is a remarkable release of data, for it not only shines yet another light on the global warming farce, but it shows you what a joke the so-called "peer review" process is in area of climate science.

We all knew the thing was a racket, and these files are the clearest evidence of that yet.

I go to bed with a smile on my face, knowing that these cockroaches will soon have nowhere to hide.

Just an idle thought but could it be that the big players who used/depended on the willing fools to promote the agenda have realized that the jig was up, and have decided to throw the willing fools to the wolves to protect themselves?

Al, Mo, David et al were all "fooled"? How else would they climb down?

These so-called scientists are all in cahoots, scratching each others back, and all utterly consumed with their belief that global warming is occurring.

Anyone that questions AGW is either "in the pay of Big Oil", an idiot, "misinformed" (thus needing "re-education") or has some serious mental issues.

Uh-huh, OK.

Why is it that our free society's mechanism for providing untainted information to the people has consistently not looked into and evaluated the "deniers'" input?

It appears that there has been a determined effort to paint government/NGO/activist group-paid "scientists" in a completely innocent light.

Why is this?

The house of bureaucratic cards is beginning to shake a might. Sooner or latter over regulation with big government. Collapses of it own weight of self righteousness.You have as big a government as us & nothing is secret.
Someone will always "leak" an outrageous law that even disgusts them.
JMO

If you have a religious belief in your group's end goal, no lie you tell to achieve that goal is morally wrong. Or so you think.

Half of the climate fear-mongers believe that the wealth redistribution aspect of Kyoto is the end goal that justifies any means; the other half believe the threat of the supposed pollutant CO2 gives them license to deceive the public. Both halves are dangerous religious crazies.

Me: I bow down to whoever hacked and distributed this stuff. What a service to humanity.

I wish I could get the same quality of exposed conspiracy in regard to Environment Canada's campaign of blacklisting my research -- and possibly other similar, related bad acts over a longer period of time (dating back to before we had e-mail or for that matter, global warming).

I've heard some of the details from people who didn't want to go on the record, and it's the same sort of stuff, let's feather our nests and keep out anyone who wants to do any real work.

So over the years, if this was the same attitude as other national weather services around the world, it's no surprise that a culture of mediocrity and cynical indifference to real scientific integrity developed, and global warming or climate change was the perfect boondoggle to wring vast amounts of money out of nervous and anxious governments.

There are some good people working in these places, but I get the strong sense that they are afraid to speak out because they know it would mean social ostracism and possible removal (not firing because it's hard to fire a swivel servant) -- but then, when I say good people, I suppose that good people would be more courageous than that.

It is a national disgrace that in my own case, not one person out of thousands who might be in the know has ever stood up and said anything. That would have made Stalin or Hitler proud, a 100% compliance rate with some official policy of state-sponsored deception. In our own case, the government doesn't know a thing about it -- I tried that approach, my MP gave it a valiant effort in all fairness to him, but he ran up against a total brick wall of silence and in the end he died and was replaced by a university Liberal climatologist. I figured that was probably the end of my window of opportunity to get relief from my MP.

Decided to go my own way as the internet age blossomed and many alternative discussion groups came into existence. The end result is that I now expect some of my ideas to percolate into the next generation of researchers, but probably not with much effect until long after I'm gone.

There are many similar stories, I am sure. You have to figure that the lack of real progress in long-range forecasting must be due to something other than the complexity of the challenge, perhaps it's due more to structural weaknesses in the established science of meteorology and climatology. The bad show of the climate change crowd is a very good indicator of how low the bar is in this science, when compared to astronomy or organic chemistry. The sad thing is, the rest of the scientific community figures that their colleagues in the atmospheric sciences must be up to par, they came out of the same universities etc etc, so they take their announcements at face value and give their prestige and credibility to the IPCC nonsense, without ever doing their own investigation of it. Too bad we don't have the likes of Einstein around in this generation to take a quick look at the quackery of the climate change "science" -- I'm pretty sure he would make short work of them.

The alarmists' circle jerk has just blown its last collective last wad!

I hope this proves to be legitimate. If true, this was not just harmless 'fudging' of data, it was deliberately deceiving the public (via the media) to achieve political goals. Those who have used and abused science in this manner should be publicly stripped of all their titles and charged with fraud. The economic damage caused by the AGW scam is exponentially more harmful than Madoff.

More importantly, will incandescent lightbulbs get a pardon? I hate CFLs. :)

Timed to be just prior to Copenhagen

Whether it came fom Russia, who likely arent interested in Carbon Caps, should be interesting.

The sad thing is this has moved out of the realm of scientific inquiry and into the partisan realm, actually it did so a while ago.

Heck even Gore just admitted that only 40% of warming can be attributed to CO2, that doesnt make it true, it just means he has backed off his initial fundamentalist position that there was a near one to one correlation between CO2 rising and temp rising.

If people have been playing fast and loose with the science, as it appears, then a loss of position, tenure etc, a professional court martial so to speak, is well within the realm of possibility.

Global Warming will go down in history as the greatest fraud ever perpetrated. Equally, the corrupt politicians who tried to backdoor billions will go down in history as the biggest crooks that ever exhaled CO2. And finally, the issue will be remembered as the one that put the final nail in the coffin of the tree-murdering MSM.

"I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline."

Science, eh?! ROFL.

Boom de Adda
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If thisis real, we have numerous counts of criminal fraud.

There should be lots of jail time coming up for the fraud propagators, there should be firings for cause, refusal of pensions.

Boom de Adda
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Its going to be a good schadenfreude kinda day :)

Director of Hadley just confirmed its real. Their data was taken and put out there.

I fully expect Lorrie Goldstein is watching this story unfold very closely and understandably so, in order to ascertain whether the hacked info is true Hadley CRU stuff.

Lorrie in my view has been one of the few MSM people willing to comment on AGW or cap and trade which of course is the Kyoto siamese twin of the AGW hoax in my view.

Well this is going to really piss off Bill Good at CKNW.

Somebody just wee-wee'd in his AGW cornflakes.

Congrats Kate, You've even "scoped" The Drudge Report, no sign of it over there yet.

There are interesting summations and links here at Andrew Bolt's MSM blog:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hadley_hacked/

And at editor Tim Blair's MSM blog:
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/hold_your_fire1/

And, apparently, the Hadley head has admitted the emails are genuine.

Those greasy bastards.

P.S. I wonder if the Red Star is going to be calling the person, especially it it is an insider, a brave "whistleblower", a word the Red Star has developed a fondness for as of late?

Sean Hannity's Radio show is aware of SDA blog posting last night and still current.
If the hack info is correct the AGW Pandora box is wide open to the world.

Copenhagen will be end up being a GloGG and Pilsener party and nothing more.

When this comes out and AGW dies the death the it so rightly deserves ALL of the gulls who supported it should have AGW tattooed on their foreheads so that everyone knows that the individual sporting the tattoo is too evil/stupid to ever be trusted with any position of authority over anything or anyone ever again.

I recommend Andycanuck's first link above, lots of juicy stuff, again, it's here:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hadley_hacked/

I was a bit skeptical at first, until I read this (via a link at andycanuck's (9:07) link:

"HadleyCRU says leaked data is real.

"The director of Britain's leading Climate Research Unit, Phil Jones, has told Investigate magazine's TGIF Edition tonight that his organization has been hacked, and the data flying all over the internet appears to be genuine.

"In an exclusive interview, Jones told TGIF, 'It was a hacker. We were aware of this about three or four days ago that someone had hacked into our system and taken and copied loads of data files and emails.'

"'Have you alerted police?'

"'Not yet. We were not aware of what had been taken.'"

Jones says he was first tipped off to the security breach by colleagues at the website RealClimate.

"Real Climate were given information, but took it down off their site and told me they would send it across to me. They didn't do that. I only found out it had been released five minutes ago."

IF - big word - this is true and the Cons go ahead and follow the US on Cap & Trade they deserve to be thron out of office. They should say they are sorry by following the advice given them and state they will continue to fight pollution in Canada. They should also send the rsearcher on polar baers to conference - was rejected because he did not go along with the trend, and his denial of Global Warming.

By Christmas we will know where the Cons stand on Global Warming/Climate Change. We already know the Bloc, Non Democradic Party and LIEberals stand, and if Iffy is smart he will be the first to change his mind thereby granting him a small amount of honesty. It will take a great keader to confess he/she was wrong and discontinue the Global Warming religion.

I am sure this will totally destroy the Green Party and finally be rid of the fearmonger E. May and Dr. Fruitfly.

If real. This deserves a Noble Peace Prize. Oh...wait.

if it gets on Beck it will go cosmic tonight.

Just in time for Copenhagen, luv it.

Hadley should be treated as a crime scene , lock it up .

The Phantom: "See, this is why I don't believe in these perfect conspiracies, like the ATF brass knew about Oklahoma City, like the 9/11 Troofers, ad nauseam. Somebody -always- squeals."

You are absolutely correct.

The "Troofers" have singularly failed to produce a Daniel Ellsberg.

Let's be careful. It is possible -- not likely, just possible -- that whoever illegally accessed CRU's systems has edited the files for extra impact before publishing them. AFAIK Phil Jones, head of CRU Hadley, has only confirmed that CRU were hacked, not that the files were accurate.

I really, really hope that really, really soon someone will ask him whether any of the files are inaccurate.

just possible -- that whoever illegally accessed CRU's systems has edited the files for extra impact before publishing them.
~Chris Chittleborough

Then Hadley CRU will have to prove the difference by making public the original data files they have been hiding from FOIA demands, won't they?

It looks like win-win to me.

There is no honor amongst thieves.

Tis how crime rings are often exposed.

Congrats, you scooped AJ at his Prison Planet.

This is interesting:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-cru-has-apparently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/

and the files:
http://ftp.tomcity.ru/incoming/free/
Posted by: ChrisinMB at November 19, 2009 9:34 PM

CBCpravda has gone into their usual catatonic state with this. They cannot have a set of files like this go public when they are about to have Gore and Suzuki together in a modulated forum . Even the the AGW derriers that they will have in the audience may ask the wrong questions.

@ Oz at November 20, 2009 10:41 AM

Heh.

OF course these files will be determined by "official" investigation to be false regardless if they are or not. So we can have some fun in the mean time but this will be swept under the rug very quickly and it will be made to seem that the "Deniers" and specifically Climate Audit (been a thorn in AGW side for a long time)jumped the gun or were complicit in some way in order to derail Copenhagen.

The AGWers will use it as a call to arms because the evil deniers will stop at nothing to distort the truth, and in this firestorm the only thing we will never know is what the real truth is.

This is a no win for the truth as to the authenticity of these files, far too many people in far too many high places would be affected.

Sorry but it far too political an issue to be derailed by something as annoying as the truth or a lie, which ever this is.

The new 'Cry for Help:'

Fake but accurate => Fraudulent but true

More from the Telegraph:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

I'm afraid that Illiquid Assets, 11:07 a.m., has accurately summed up the probable non-reaction.

The Grinch just stole climate change. Is the AGW god dead? Is it time to start a new religion?
Stay tuned. Let the spin begin.

http://www.investigatemagazine.com/australia/latestissue.pdf

In an exclusive interview with Investigate magazine’s
TGIF Edition, Jones confirms his organization
has been hacked, and the data flying all over the
internet appears to have come from his organisation.
“It was a hacker. We were aware of this about
three or four days ago that someone had hacked
into our system and taken and copied loads of data
files and emails.”
“Have you alerted police?”
“Not yet. We were not aware of what had been
taken.”
Jones says he was first tipped off to the security
breach by colleagues at the website RealClimate.
“Real Climate were given information, but took
it down off their site and told me they would send
it across to me. They didn’t do that. I only found out
it had been released five minutes ago.”

The validity of the files being hacked and authentic has been confirmed by Jones at CRU.

The great AGW fallout has commenced.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"

A commenter at 'Watts Up With That' puts it well;

“…the keys to the future of western economic prosperity have apparently been given away by our cretinous politicians to these climate change fanatics.”

'cretinous' ? Is it a word or does he not know how to spell Chretien ? heh heh

CRU director says the documents are authentic, but he's already started with a series of excuses.
He's turned out to be a "DENIER."
Here's the link
http://www.examiner.com/x-28973-Essex-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m11d20-CRU-director-admits-hacked-files-genuine

Wall Street Journal:

http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/11/20/hacked-sensitive-documents-lifted-from-hadley-climate-center/

It's the Wrecking CRU (as one WUWT commenter invented, and not me).

I've bet five bucks there's no police involvement from Hadley, so they can claim its been tampered without having to pony up the real goods in court.

Any takers? Trolls? John Cross?

Vaclav Klaus dared to be a Daniel, dared to stand alone.

"*We should not forget how the doctrine of global warming came into being."

H/T National Post.
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"*Václav Klaus: ‘Largest tax increase in world history’

Despite huge spending, it has not been proved that the human effect on the climate is significant

By Václav Klaus

Many thanks for the invitation and for the courage to organize such an important gathering in the moment when political correctness tells you not to do it.

We are meeting one month before the Climate Change Copenhagen Summit and several weeks before the U.S. Senate hearing regarding the cap-and-trade scheme. For these reasons, today’s meeting can’t be an academic conference, even though the topic still needs academic discussion. There is no consensus — neither in science, nor in economic analysis or politics.

I have already been at a UN Summit in Copenhagen before. It was in 1995 at the so-called Social Summit. At that time, the Summit was attended by then U.S. Vice President Al Gore who — so it seems — will be there again this year. I did also attend, as Prime Minister of the Czech Republic, but I don’t plan to go there now. I don’t see any chance to influence the results or to be listened to.

In 1995, there were huge demonstrations organized by all kinds of anti-establishment groupings - from socialists and greens to anarchists and anti-globalizationists. I have never seen such clashes between demonstrators and police and army forces before. The difference is that I don’t expect any demonstrations in Copenhagen now. The anti-establishment people have in the meantime become insiders and will be sitting in the main hall. This is a shift with far-reaching consequences.

My views on the doctrine of global warming and especially on the role of man in it are relatively known. My book with the title Blue Planet in Green Shackles has been already published in 12 languages and, two and a half years after its original publication, I don’t have any urgent need to rewrite it.

We should not forget how the doctrine of global warming came into being." (more)

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/11/05/v-225-clav-klaus-largest-tax-increase-in-world-history.aspx

Pajamas Media has it. Hot Air has it and American Thinker. This has officially gone viral.

Al Gore is now in charge of the "Anthropogenic dung-heap".

PS. And he's selling shares in it!
Buy Low Smell High.

Hope you don't mind a question on another topic. What happened to the Canadian woman who joined the Taliban (can't remember her name) who was shown in a video stating that she would be killed if Canada did not send money right away?

Posted by: Nemo2
[...I'm afraid that Illiquid Assets, 11:07 a.m., has accurately summed up the probable non-reaction.]
Yet too many VIPs in harms way.
Never-the-less the damage is done regardless official action.
This implicates Hadley CRU, GISS, the IPCC etc. and as well as the alarmist industry in general.
Is this an inside event---a conspirator who got religion, a jihadi, or a mole (Mossad, CIA, MI5-6, KGB or just a fragile soul with a personal crisis.
This has greater import than Watergate, or the detection/defection of McLean/Philby/Burgess...not just individuals but administrations are affected.
This is BIG.

Al Gore is now in charge of the "Anthropogenic dung-heap".

PS. And he's selling shares in it!
Buy Low Smell High.

It is simply fascinating to see that the high priests at realclimate.org are utterly silent. This tells you something.

Not a peep from them as of 9:00 AM PST this morning.

It reminds me of the quartet playing on the deck of the Titanic while it sank (although that group of musicians were a much more honourable bunch).

Honestly, I hope all these charlatans and their preachers (Gore, etc.) eventually rot in hell. They have severely damaged the reputation of good science, and they have willingly perpetrated one of the greatest frauds ever on mankind, driven by their lust for a new world order.

These emails and data might not be the final nail in their coffin, but they are a huge step forward in putting these crooks out of business once and for all.

Science will never return to being an honest profession until it rids itself of the hideous left-wing cancer that has infected it over the last 50 years.

Phantom, yes, Mr. Cross is conspicuous by his absence, isn't he.

CruGate ?

HadleyGate ?

Ed @ WattsUpwithThat
comments:

Professor Michael E Mann, director of Pennsylvania State University’s Earth System Science Centre and a regular contributor to the popular climate science blog Real Climate, is another prominent climatologist who features in many of the email exchanges. Mann said: “I’m simply not going to comment on the content of illegally obtained emails. However, I will say this: both their theft and, I believe, any reproduction of the emails that were obtained on public websites, etc, constitutes serious criminal activity. I’m hoping that the perpetrators and their facilitators will be tracked down and prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows.”

I was wondering if the theft of not genuine emails would constitute criminal activity that Mr. Mann would like to have tracked down?
~Ed

-Oz:
I think we can assume the material that is causing all this buzz is genuine and that we should stop referring to the provider of this material as a hacker and start calling him/her a WHISTLEBLOWER for the sake of protection and to gain public certitude about the contents of the material.

Remember - no media, no AGW scam.

So who is the real guilty party here?

LC Bennet @ 8:07: "it was deliberately deceiving the public (via the media) to achieve political goals."
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I'm not sure it's as much for political ends as it is to cover their own asses. After all, their reputations are at stake and they've collectively scammed governments and granting agencies out of millions.

Exactly, OZ. He/she is a whistle blower. I'd recommend the Nobel Prize for him if that institution wasn't so badly tainted. Maybe Al Gore should be made to surrender his, too.

Just as expected coverage from the BBC is pathetic.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8370282.stm

According to them the story is just a simple case of an organization's email system being "hacked". No mention of the thousands of other files, code, statistics, etc. How anyone can still call this the work of "hackers" is beyond me! The released information was much to selective. It was an inside or professional job for sure, not some mischievous kid hopped up on Red Bull in mama's basement as they subtly imply.

CruGate ? HadleyGate ?

No. CRUaquiddick or Hackaquiddick.

"It was an inside or professional job for sure, not some mischievous kid hopped up on Red Bull in mama's basement as they subtly imply."

Ha!

Of course, it doesn't actually matter WHO did the "hacking"; it's the hacked material itself which is the issue.

No. CRUaquiddick or Hackaquiddick.
~andycanuck

I think it should be named after a hoax.

An earlier UK scientific hoax was called Piltdown Man.
I think this AGW one should be called Meltdown Mann.

Oz,I wonder if everyone who has downloaded the file and hosting it as a bit torrent is willing to take Professor Mann's threat seriously.

The 'Jones(town) Academic Immolation' - hot'nough for ya?

Oz:

Now, you're onto something.

Political fraud disguised as science is not a new phenomenon.

The Piltdown Man was, in fact, a search for the missing link used to support the politicization of Darwin's Theories.

That politization directly led to those wonderful ‘progressive' political movements of the early 20th century who were so disrespectful of dissenting opinion.

It's time to purify the scientific community by defunding and throwing out the fraudsters. And, the only place these elitist scam artists get funding is from the taxpayer

"Of course, it doesn't actually matter WHO did the "hacking"; it's the hacked material itself which is the issue. "

I just think "hacked" is the wrong term here and an attempt to minimize the whole affair.

qwerty1,

INTERPOL has no teeth, it's a joke and always has been.

Besides, there is plenty of whistleblower legislation to protect people and this information is all publicly funded data.
The more screaming, investigating, and probing that ensues the more the focus will be on the content of the data involved.

Beer and popcorn time!

What, no posts by T or new yet?

They're slipping.

As for the 'hacker': Whistleblower, you mean. I wouldn't exactly call it a 'hack' if it was an internal job.

Perhaps, Louise, but the scientists had ample opportunity to change course once the observed data conflicted with the theory and/or the political consequences of their theory became clear. The scientists response to FOI requests and their alleged data 'fudging' was highly unscientific so I would not rule out political interference.

As an aside, if these e-mails derail the AGW gravy train someone should warn the CRU team to stay out of helicopters and the top floor staircase at the UN.

Steve McIntyre at Climate Audit confirms that the e-mails in the exposed data files that he sent to Hadley CRU are genuinely from him.

This is real, people.

Statement from Obama.."Let me be clear, I've always said that this global warming nonsense was George Bush's fault..?

"Remember - no media, no AGW scam."

Posted by: ron in kelowna ∴ at November 20, 2009 12:14 PM

THis time I am putting my faith in at least two MSM journalists as the accuracy or validity of the scientists' dodgy information emerges.
Both Lorne Gunter and Lorrie Goldstein have shown interest in the AGW / Cap and Trade issues in the past, I am confident they will follow this story aggressively.
And I hope "whistleblower" will stick, for the leak.

OZ: "An earlier UK scientific hoax was called Piltdown Man.
I think this AGW one should be called Meltdown Mann."
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It also reminds me of Watergate, as far as the scale of the deceit goes.

Joe, you can bet Lawrence Solomon will be all over this, too.

As a long time anti-AGWist, after checking the emails, documents, and software code, all I could say to myself last night was "How sweet it is!" as said by Jackie Gleason so many times.

Davidian Scarezuki, back in the later 1980s, said that the sea-level would rise by a meter by the turn of the century. So I did my simple math homework from the available data at the time, tuned in to John Daly (RIP) and wrote so much on so many blogs (not called blogs then).

In the later 1990s, when trying to explain to colleagues why AGW is nonsense, a rather well-known scientist stood up, came over, and actually punched me. The place went deathly silent as this fellow (his face a sort of red/purple/blue) stormed out of the room. How sad it was.

But, as somebody across the pond said a few years back -- when it comes to matters as important as global-warming, truth is not important.

Alas, the MSM will echo that sentiment into their silent bull-horns.

No matter how "sweet it is" to us, the small dead animals who are starting to come to life.

So it begins , Real Climates response . What a steaming pile of crap .

There is a new dangererous source of global warming: right now Chairman Mo, Saint Al and Dr. Fruitflies heads are exploding!

Whoops, forgot to add:

When are the lawsuits going to start flying!!

And no, the MSM will do nothing to report this and will do their best to cover it up at the behest of Boss Soros and Chairman Mo

We should ask Real Climate what they think. Of course our comments will be moderated into invisibility but it will irritate them.

CRUgate questions making it on to the CBC's Gore/Suzuki forum .

If there are lots the Ceeb can't ignore it.

Piltdown/Meltdown Mann
Very good, Oz. There are several good shots at Mann's name in the WUWT comments too (or at least from around 11:00 when I was last there).

There are indeed, a few worthy MSM Journalists, who have been exposing the scam - Lorrie Goldstein, Peter Foster, Lorne Gunter, Lawrence Solomon to name a few.

But even at those media orgs, the editors and most others still push the scam.

I'm all for exposing this GW cr*p.

But WRT (with respect to) the hacker(s)IP address(es), can't they be traced thru cache etc?

I recall some on the Left getting caught through such means after they lurked and posted odious material on conservative sites.

I suppose if the hacker(s) were smart enough to compromise CRU, then they were probably astute enough to leave no trace.

Concerning Real Climate; I went and read the posting on there and commented as follows. ** Note the timestamps

lgarvin says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.

20 November 2009 at 1:15 PM
“Clearly no-one would have gone to this trouble if the academic object of study was the mating habits of European butterflies.”

That depends on whether or not people were trying to re-order the global economy on the basis of those butterfly studies. And whether or not some folks had tried to substitute the odd moth in order to “hide the decline.”

My comment is "awaiting moderation"

Note the timestamp of comments already published...

1bigcitylib says:
20 November 2009 at 1:19 PM
I hate to always harp on the graphics, but one of the time series Jones et al are talking about, with the data “added in”, might be useful here.

And, having read a couple hundred of the emails, that does seem to be the worst they’ve got. Even the “mocking the dead denier” thing seems based on misreading the email in question.

2richard says:
20 November 2009 at 1:23 PM
RC, thank you for this even-handed explanation...

Moments to Remember

By the CRU Cuts

The day our faces wore a frown
The day they tore our theory down
We will have these moments to remember

The secret talks were so much fun
The global scam we almost won
We will have these moments to remember

Though climate’s always summer
cause winter disappears
The E-mails we were glad to share
Will echo through the years

When hot, hot nights and hotter days
Have found us gone our separate ways
We will have these moments to remember

(The polar caps where we'd go)
(And somehow never see the snow)
We will have these moments to remember

LOL!! I hadn't noticed you had spelled it Meltdown Mann. That's hilarious.

CLearly a great day. Kinsella abandons ship on the Libs. http://www.warrenkinsella.com/index.php?entry=entry091120-084557

sf, do you suppose that's code for "I've been fired"?

I agree with Kate, these emails are damning stuff.

I have reviewed papers for journals for many years, and have had over 20 of my own publications peer reviewed in respected journals (IEEE journals for example).

As someone who understands the peer review process I can tell you that reading some of the emails makes me cringe.

It would not be as big a scandal if these jokers were colluding in some obscure field in order to artificially prop up each others research (that has been known to happen too).

But what makes it a scandal is that these jokers are working on "science" that is being used to decide policy for the world's major economies, and policy on how billions of dollars of hard earned tax dollars will be spent.

They should be ashamed of themselves.

Members of the global warming religion are fond of calling those who question their motives and claims "deniers".

Well, after reading their posting on http://www.realclimate.org/ regarding the hack, I believe we are correct in calling them deniers.

This gives our timid, CINO government a reason to stand up like men (or women) in Copenhagen and propose an end to this ongoing circus, but will they take it?

Probably not unless the furore expands to major proportions and they can position themselves with the skeptics without harming their polling numbers.

I think they could have done that before now, but as with the Section 13 issue, they lack the basic cojones to try anything more daring than tax cuts and patriotic displays.

So what's it going to be, more kowtowing to China, or responsible government for democratic societies?

From: Tom Wigley [...]
To: Phil Jones [...]
Subject: 1940s
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:25:38 -0600
Cc: Ben Santer [...]
Phil,
Here are some speculations on correcting SSTs to partly explain the 1940s warming blip. If you look at the attached plot you will see that theland also shows the 1940s blip (as I’m sure you know).
So, if we could reduce the ocean blip by, say, 0.15 degC, then this would be significant for the global mean – but we’d still have to explain the land blip. I’ve chosen 0.15 here deliberately. This still leaves an ocean blip, and i think one needs to have some form of ocean blip to explain the land blip (via either some common forcing, or ocean forcing land, or vice versa, or all of these). When you look at other blips, the land blips are 1.5 to 2 times (roughly) the ocean blips—higher sensitivity plus thermal inertia effects. My 0.15 adjustment leaves things consistent with this, so you can see where I am coming from.
Removing ENSO does not affect this.
It would be good to remove at least part of the 1940s blip, but we are still left with “why the blip”.
Let me go further. If you look at NH vs SH and the aerosol effect (qualitatively or with MAGICC) then with a reduced ocean blip we get continuous warming in the SH, and a cooling in the NH—just as one would expect with mainly NH aerosols.
The other interesting thing is (as Foukal et al. note – from MAGICC) that the 1910-40 warming cannot be solar. The Sun can get at most 10% of this with Wang et al solar, less with Foukal solar. So this may well be NADW, as Sarah and I noted in 1987 (and also Schlesinger later). A reduced SST blip in the 1940s makes the 1910-40 warming larger than the SH (which it currently is not)—but not really enough.
So ... why was the SH so cold around 1910? Another SST problem? (SH/NH data also attached.)
This stuff is in a report I am writing for EPRI, so I’d appreciate any comments you (and Ben) might have.
Tom.

Well, that did it for me. Off with their heads.

Good Job Kate.
,

Oh, this is so sweet! Even the MSM will not be able to bury this; if anything, as the fetid smell of scandal keeps wafting from the CRU, the MSM will happily turn on them to feed their news cycles.

Al Gore's hopes of becoming the first "carbon billionaire" are now rapidly fading; I'm hoping to see the day when the Canadian media starts saying "Oh Suzuki! You got some 'splaining to do!"

At realclimate they are in full denial mode. It is amusing to watch.

In response to one comment they state:

[Response: This is a typical over-reaction. Perhaps you are unaware that almost all journals demand that you submit names of potential reviewers as part of the submission? ... gavin]

Holy smokes, Gavin and company are desperate. The above statement is an outright lie.

"The Sound Of All Hell About To Break Loose"

Except not at CBC or CTV or the Hope & Frail yet.

Potentially the biggest story since whenever and they don't even bother to report it.

Hope they like the taste of crow.

UAE CRU website:

This website is currently being served from the CRU Emergency Webserver.
Some pages may be out of date.
Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.

Nervous?

Except not at CBC or CTV or the Hope & Frail yet.
~Fred

These same "organs" refused to tell the public about the Car-B-Qs in Paris that were going on every single night for 2 weeks.

Glenn Beck wasn't on Fox back then.

HA! Fox has it up on their website now!

Ghost of Ed at 1:43

I'm old enough to remember the tune, and I'm just humming along with your new words. "the global scam we almost won" Heh! Great stuff, Ed.

Mao (Hi. Canadian "Liberal leader" Boob Lae is my nephew.) Stlong say, countelattack best stlategy for huMannity. How many bloken hockey sticks you wanMann?
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"Leading British climate centre hacked

E-mails and documents have been taken from the University of East Anglia.

One of Britain's leading climate-research centres has had more than 1,000 files stolen from its computers and republished on the Internet. The cyber-attack is apparently aimed at damaging the reputations of prominent climate scientists.

The University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit (CRU) in Norwich confirmed today that e-mails and documents dating from 1991 to 2009 were illegally copied and subsequently published on an anonymous Russian server.

A link to the Russian server first appeared on 19 November on a relatively obscure climate-sceptic blog. The server was shut down just hours later, but the stolen material had already been distributed elsewhere on the Internet.

"We are aware that information from a server used for research information in one area of the university has been made available on public websites," says Simon Dunford, a spokesman for the University of East Anglia. "This information has been obtained and published without our permission and we took immediate action to remove the server in question from operation."

The volume of the information is too large to "currently confirm that all of this material is genuine", Dunford says, adding that the university will undertake an internal investigation and has already involved the police in the enquiry.

Some climate-sceptic bloggers are already poring over the posted material, which includes e-mails allegedly sent by the CRU's director Phil Jones to fellow climate researchers, including Michael Mann at Pennsylvania State University in University Park. Mann is the author of a widely cited assessment of past climate records, known as the hockey-stick graph, which shows a pronounced global-warming trend during the latter part of the twentieth century.

"I'm not going to comment on the content of illegally obtained e-mails," says Mann. "However, their theft constitutes serious criminal activity. I'm hoping that the perpetrators will be tracked down and prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows." Jones declined to comment on the matter.

With less than three weeks to go until the start of the United Nations' climate negotiations in Copenhagen, Mann doubts that the timing of the attack is a coincidence. "The deniers will probably do anything they can to distract the public from the reality of the problem [of climate change], and the threat that it poses," he says. "Cherry-picked, out-of-context quotes, stolen from private e-mails, is the best they've got.""

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2390953/posts

Back in the day one of the great advances in human civilization was the separation of Church and State. Now is the time we institute a separation of Science/Academia and State.

New fresh thread above, this one is getting too long.

I wonder how long it will take for the "SUICIDES" to start occurring.

I alway believed it was a scam and tried to convince as many people as I could. Now we have proof that not only was the science bad but there was conspiracy too!

Cheers!

OK, who let the cat out?

I think there's more to come. These were selected to get the guilty parties to incriminate themselves, then comes the good stuff.

The email are online now at:

http://​www​.anel​e​gantchaos​.org/​c​r​u​/​i​n​dex.php