If you have been reading us for any length of time, you know that we used to make fun of “Dubya” nearly every day…parroting the same comedic bits we heard in our Democrat circles, where Bush is still, to this day, lampooned as a chimp, a bumbling idiot, and a poor, clumsy public speaker.
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h/t Robert W.
Related - What Bush Inherited
Posted by Kate at November 13, 2009 7:24 AMEven when they are trying to sound contrite ... they are are a day late and dollar short.
We MISS Dubya the say .... because the whole world revolves around their feelings.
Posted by: OMMAG at November 13, 2009 7:55 AMCan you imagine the cries of racism if the web site bushorchimp.com was changed to obamaorchimp.com? I still think Obama looks like Alfred E Newman.
Posted by: Western Canadian at November 13, 2009 8:13 AMlike the Big Yellow Taxi - you don't what you got ... until it's gone .. eh?
Posted by: Joe Molnar at November 13, 2009 8:40 AMThere's no need to insult Alfred E.Newman!
Posted by: dmorris at November 13, 2009 8:43 AMAlfred E. Newman? Isn't he the guy that makes that excellent salad dressing?
I want George and Ronnie back! NOW!
Posted by: atric at November 13, 2009 9:00 AMI must confess that with Obama first came to power I truly believed that he would come around. Was I wrong. I doubt he'll get 35% of the vote in 2012.
Posted by: Trent at November 13, 2009 9:01 AMI used to get attacked at parties and other events when I would say that GWB would be judged to be a very good President after his term in office, I just did not expect the shift this soon.
Posted by: Illiquid Assets at November 13, 2009 9:10 AMHey let's not forget that we aren't innocent in this respect. Pres Bush was demonized on this side of the border pretty savagely (remember Carolyn Parrish). I hope we, Canadians realize what a good man Pres Bush was and how he protected not only the US but us as well.
~~favill~~
Posted by: favill at November 13, 2009 9:21 AM"I still think Obama looks like Alfred E Newman."
I think that's because he radiates the "what me worry" philosophy. In Alfred's case he was a harmless optimist; with obozo it's malignant narcissism. He will be correct and perfect - judgment to the contrary is incorrect and worthless.
Well it looks like there is some dissention among the ranks of the Black Jesus.
A sign up over at Rodger Schlong's blog tells it all:
We're not racist! We hate his white half too!
Posted by: Jim at November 13, 2009 9:41 AMA burning drive to correct injustice and what I suspect might be mild obsessive-compulsive disorder force me to point out that our girl batb beat Robert W. to it on this one: See the November 12th Reader Tips thread, on Nov. 11th @8:21PM
Posted by: Black Mamba at November 13, 2009 10:03 AMspeaking of things presidential, today in history:
Nov 13 1986
Ronald Reagan tells television audience: "We have not -- I repeat, did not -- trade weapons or anything else for hostages, nor will we ever."
what a g^$%@m bald-faced lie.
they ALL do it.
Dennis Miller is apoplectic this morning, discussing this: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/14/us/14terror.html
He's convinced that Obama is deliberately poking in the eye every American on the right side of the aisle. Ten times so just a week after Fort Hood.
Imagine if a suicide bomber does something in NYC during the trial.
Posted by: Robert W. at November 13, 2009 10:20 AMre: Barack Neumann what, me worry?:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/Obama%20mad-magazine-cover.jpg
a.k.a. Alfred E Obama
Posted by: curious_george at November 13, 2009 10:30 AMHe not only looks like Alfred E. Newman, but he seems to have adopted the "What? Me worry?" approach to his job.
Posted by: Louise at November 13, 2009 10:31 AMWhat? Me Socialist?
Posted by: Daniel Ream at November 13, 2009 10:38 AMReading the link makes me think that the world today is mostly filled with kids that never matured into adults.
OMMAG you more or less nailed it on the head.
Posted by: TJ at November 13, 2009 11:04 AMAs much as I would love to Alfred E Obama taken out of power ASAP, we should pray he makes it to 2012 or this complete evil idiot will be replaced by the drooling retard Joe Biden.
If Joe doesn't make it we will then have third in line for the throne, Nancy Pelosi whose name needs no degrading adjectives since her name itself is synonymous with stupidity and evil.
Future insults to any truly despicable woman could be "hey don't be such a Pelosi!"
Posted by: Jake at November 13, 2009 11:05 AMWe will always be grateful for the compassion and emotions which GWB displayed during those days after 911. The resolve that rallied the country around the flag and the American dream...But...let's not forget the economic damage which this president continued and started with the economy. Clinton killed Spiegel/Glass opening the door to all this economic kaos, Bush had the opportunity to close the door and instead brought in TARP and Homeland Security. For these two things alone, Bush will forever be judged harshly and rightly.
Obama is guilty of basically piling on...with a super tanker...but this man has no soul and emotions. He is only interested in having parties at the White House, golfing and perfecting every line in every teleprompter speech. He is double minded in almost everything he does. He is unable to make any good decisions on his own, that is why he shows no emotions, other than those written into the script.
He should have gone to Texas and held the hands of the shooing victims and thanked them for their service to the country and had a 1000 cameras capturing every last second. He couldn't because he is not thankful and the cameras would have picked up the eyes of the shark...dark and unemotional.
Bush will seem like a teddy bear after this administration is finish. We like teddy bears!!!
Posted by: glacierman at November 13, 2009 11:05 AMOwebama is not the real president of the USA. He will go down in history a being the first 'puppet president'. He doesn't make decisions. He doesn't write speeches. He doesn't make policy. He doesn't set direction. He does what his handlers, the backroom boys, tell him to do. He does it because the backroom boys know how to appeal to his vanity.
Personally I am not a great fan of W. At the time he was first brought forward as candidate I thought to myself I wish the Americans could pick a better slate of candidates. However the times make or break the president and in W's case it made him. I Owe's case it will break him.
Posted by: Joe at November 13, 2009 11:31 AMSpeaking of evil children ...
If you haven't heard this guy speak about Obama ...
Posted by: Jake at November 13, 2009 11:33 AMI never thought George W. Bush was a perfect president. There are many things about his policies I disagreed with, and I thought the invasion of Iraq was personally motivated.
But I always respected him as a decent and intelligent man.
As an example, even reporters who had written many highly critical - even mocking - articles of Bush were treated with politeness and respect by the White House staff, a feat that seems beyond the political goons who are now entrenched there.
Posted by: rabbit at November 13, 2009 11:34 AMSo it takes eight years for facts to be absorbed into some people's heads.
Posted by: grok at November 13, 2009 11:49 AM"I must confess that with Obama first came to power I truly believed that he would come around. Was I wrong. I doubt he'll get 35% of the vote in 2012."
Trent
Please explain to me what exactly lead you to believe what you said here. It was clear from the start that BO was woefully unqualified, that he was a radical/racist, that he was a liar (saying he wouldn't raise taxes, while at the same time touting Capn'trade), and that he was sympathetic to terrorists(Ayers). All of this before he was elected!
Please enlighten us as to how someone like yourself(and other intelligent people) could be so thoroughly duped. You should have known who he was before you voted for him. Correct? Like BO says, “This is a teachable moment”.
Dennis Green could have been talking about Barak Obama and the Democrats when he said: “They are who we thought they were. If you want to crown them, then crown their a$$; but they are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!”
Indiana:
I think Obama was under qualified for the job. He may yet grow into it, although God knows how much damage he'll do before he does. He's also too far to the left for the good of any country.
But calling him a liar, a racist, and sympathetic to terrorists is all part of the same radical partisan bullshit that had people calling Bush a Nazi.
Posted by: rabbit at November 13, 2009 12:21 PMAs much as I would love to Alfred E Obama taken out of power ASAP, we should pray he makes it to 2012 or this complete evil idiot will be replaced by the drooling retard Joe Biden.
If Joe doesn't make it we will then have third in line for the throne, Nancy Pelosi whose name needs no degrading adjectives since her name itself is synonymous with stupidity and evil.
Future insults to any truly despicable woman could be "hey don't be such a Pelosi!"
Well if we can make it to fourth in line, we get Hillary, and ex Prez Bill as part of the bargain.
Posted by: Thucydides at November 13, 2009 12:45 PMrabbit
I don't think so. Hopefully you don't expect me to do the research for you, it's all readily available.
1- Under qualified- BO had NEVER until his new job been in any executive position. Checkmate
2- Liar- Barak Obama said clearly during the primaries that he would talk to Iran "without conditions" then at a later time said that "I never said that". Checkmate
3- racist - In Barak Obama's autobiography he says ""The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbours any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person..." -- Barack Obama" checkmate; Don't forget J.Wright
4- sympathetic to terrorist- Bill Ayers is a close friend of BO and he is an admitted terrorist. checkmate
Okay rabbit, I don't want to be the same as those with BDS so kindly explain to me where I've gone wrong. These examples are off the top of my head, and required no research. I have absolutely no problem judging someone on their own spoken and written words. Please enlighten me where I've gone wrong so I can retract my statement.
Oh yeah, I could have sworn I heard BO say that Afghanistan is a "war of necessity" that we "must win" and I can't help but think ...
Not so Rabbit. I believe in studying my enemies and the way they think so I read Obunghole's book entitled the 'audacity of hope'. His whole career is predicated on being the token negro, he sees all issues in terms of race first, and I think he is a liar that lies to others as casually as he lies to himself.
There is a world of difference between Dubya and Obutthole - the first being that Brock is basically and affirmative action empty suit.
Posted by: Jim at November 13, 2009 12:48 PMI grow weary of everyone calling everyone else a liar and a racist. Is that what political discourse has come down to these days?
If someone's views are misguided then point it out with facts and arguments. That might do some good.
Posted by: rabbit at November 13, 2009 12:54 PMFine. Read his book.
Posted by: Jim at November 13, 2009 12:56 PMPerhaps some folks are missing the reason for the invasion of Iraq. The idea was to concentrate the bad guys in Iraq and not have them all over the world. By invading Iraq, Al-Queda and the Taliban, concentrated most of their efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. Their respective "1st string planners" were planning and executing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Imagine if these planners were free to plan and execute operations in every Western country what the carnage would have been. The London, Madrid and Bali disasters would have been multiplied many times over. We should consider ourselves fortunate that Pres Bush did what he did...concentrate the enemy in two places so that we could concentrate our forces and resources in order to destroy them. There's an article in the American Thinker about this.
~~favill~~
Posted by: favill at November 13, 2009 1:16 PMGlen Beck of Fox does more research work for us every day as to what is going on in the USA.
Too bad Canada is so tied to the USA as we are going to have the same problems as they are experiencing if we are not real careful.
Meanwhile, in Ontario and Quebec, the industrial heartland is now bitching about Obama Protectionism.
Too bad they bought into the media's O cheerleading.
They we're warned.
October 25, 2008
A Crap Sandwich with Broken Glass (sda)
I think you been answered by a very good rebuttal 'rabbit'.
Posted by: Merle Underwood at November 13, 2009 1:38 PMFirstly...Kudos to W. and Laura for their compassion.
Secondly...How quickly we forget and have that burning desire to heroize the colourful villains of our past.
Thirdly...Anyone can make a mistake, even the great engineer Vitruvius trivialized Remembrance Day by forgetting about it and posting a classical piece rather than something more suitable. He clued in at some point and changed the topic, but the damage was already done.
Posted by: not stirred enough said at November 13, 2009 1:45 PM"Too bad they bought into the media's O cheerleading."
"They are who we thought they were!"
Lets be honest here; America was in denial last year and chose to absolve themselves of reality by having a giant "look how great we are" party. Look how great we are! We gotta a black President and Jay-Z at the sickest inauguration eva! (which it was)
And of course Tee-Dot in their never ending aspirations to be like NY just wanted a piece of the action; a piece of the ignorant bliss; just a few more months of denying reality, the reality that they too have made very poor choices in the last few decades and the piper wants to be paid. Hopefully by the time reality hits, nobody will remember that John McCain spoke highly of Canada, and that a McCain administration would be a "friend to Canada".
America and Canada would have been far better off with Jay-Z as President and Barak Obama as the entertainment. JMO
favill:
Thanks for your post. It's nice to see that someone else gets it. I believe it was a US General named Sanchez who explained to the nedia, just a couple of months after Saddam's statue fell, that Bin Laden would have no choice but to confront the US in Iraq. That is of course precisely what happened. Jihadis by the thousands came into Iraq to have a go at the Americans and ended up dying for their trouble.
Of course, the US media knew all this. They reported it at the time. It was only after the fighting got heavy and the Dems decided to jump ship that it all went down the memory hole and the Iraq-has-nothing-to-do-with-terrorism line began being spewed.
Posted by: bob c at November 13, 2009 2:14 PMUnderwood:
I suspect lots of people are racists and liars, but I refrain from calling them that. Why? Because it does no good and considerable damage. Far more effective is to point out the facts, and let people form their own opinions.
At any rate, everyone calls everyone a racist and liar these days. It's replaced "Hello, how's it going" as a greeting.
Go visit the Huffington Post. You'll read lots of comments accusing conservatives of being racists and liars, with (I'm sure) every bit of the sincerity and intensity found on conservative blogs. It's getting really old really quick.
Posted by: rabbit at November 13, 2009 2:15 PMFor the record, I posted In Flanders Fields, and only that, on Remembrance Day.
Posted by: Vitruvius at November 13, 2009 2:19 PMIt's too bad, that Pres Bush didn't continue eastward from Iraq and westward from Afghanistan, destroy Iran's Theocratic Gov't and emplace a democratic gov't. This event would have at least two strategic initiatives, cutting the head off the militant Islamic Theocracy (and putting an end to Iran's quest for an atomic bomb) and showing the USA's resolve to other wannabe "sh!t-disturbers" around the world.
~~favill~~
Posted by: favill at November 13, 2009 2:32 PM"they ALL do it" - curious george.
Whatever. I will go with the guy who doesn't believe in his soul that my taxes aren't high enough every time.
Posted by: tim in vermont at November 13, 2009 2:35 PMVitruvius,
What day did you post that peice, I think it was Franz List? If memory serves...the one in Amaj that had the modulation to Dmaj.
Posted by: not stirred enough said at November 13, 2009 2:38 PMSo 'rabbit' I guess I am a racist but I am not a fence straddler.
Don't need to read the Huffington Post. 'Kate' is my editor and the commentators on this blog are the links. So far in IMHO, the editor and commentators on this blog site and other very good blog sites have been blowing out the MSM candles.
Been reading 'Kates' SDA site for 3+ years.
Thanks 'Kate'.
Posted by: Merle Underwood at November 13, 2009 2:41 PM
Kate
Thanks for the link. Great read and perfect sentiments on the character of the last President. Digging down in that site, I like the new moniker that has been adopted for Obama ... "Dr Utopia" ... from the 40's cartoon clip. Here's the link: http://hillbuzz.org/faqs/
Hope it catches on.
Posted by: Mike at November 13, 2009 2:53 PMrabbit said: "I grow weary of everyone calling everyone else a liar and a racist."
Heard that. But, what do you do when the guy -is- a racist and a liar? Call him a cab? (ba-dump tsh!)
Posted by: The Phantom at November 13, 2009 2:57 PMUnderwood:
It's instructive to read the Huffington Post, not because of the views within it (which can get pretty insufferable), but because it's interesting to see how each side of the left/right schism brings identical sincerity and outrage, and spout identical insults at the other side. For every Underwood there's an anti-Underwood.
I'm not suggesting both sides are equally correct. But each side's feelings and behaviour towards the other side are carbon copies of each other, and that brings perspective.
Posted by: rabbit at November 13, 2009 3:05 PMThe Phantom:
Just so long as you don't call him late for dinner.
I think the best way to call someone a liar is to present facts that make it blinding clear that he or she is a liar. It's simply more effective than name calling. I would only call someone a racist if they had were overtly so (e.g., the Grand Wizard of the KKK). Such epithets poison the well to any sane discussion.
Posted by: rabbit at November 13, 2009 3:20 PM"America's steel curtain thwarts Canada
Harper's bid to ease buy-U.S. rules bogs down as hard-hit Canadian manufacturers cry foul"
(nnw)
TORedStar, aka Aunty-American says, it's PM H'is fault.
"With the window for a negotiated exemption to Buy American for Canadian companies narrowing, manufacturers are losing faith in the Harper government's slow-moving effort to win over the Obama administration."
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/725301--america-s-steel-curtain-thwarts-canada?bn=1
Posted by: maz2 at November 13, 2009 3:34 PMRabbit spins the "GATES" as what???? ....other than knee-jerk racism by his wet dream.
Read "Audacity of Hope" and ignore the racism....which can't be attributed to OBOZO's white half.
Rabbit is the typical victim of a con man----despite evidence to the contrary still respects the guy who lied to him and cheated him.
...unless Rabbit is a kindred soul to OBOZO---hence a waste of skin.
Posted by: sasquatch at November 13, 2009 4:07 PMBarack Obama - The Incredible Shrinking President.
Posted by: JJM at November 13, 2009 4:21 PMSasquatch:
I avoid calling people liars and racists, but I'm not beyond calling some people ignorant drooling schmegheads who's asinine dumb-as-dirt posts deserve a swift kick in the bullocks.
Posted by: rabbit at November 13, 2009 4:24 PMAnd we're hearing about this now why? Remorse or regret? That Bush no longer can run for the highest office of the land? Or that now a total putz has ruined things for everyone and now we realise that Bush wasn't so bad after all? Well, that's nice but we're still stuck with the putz and his cheap wife who won't shell out for decent toys for visiting leaders' children.
If any of the leftist twits had any shame, they would just stop speaking and blogging altogether. For all of his faults, at least Bush has decency and the left would rather drink a bowl of hot wax then admit it- until now.
And that's a little too late.
Hey rabbit, still tryin' to make nice with the Hate and Death Cult, huh?
See what it gets ya?
Howzabout your spirited defense of Kate's assertion that all leftists are anti-semites? That still comin' along?
Posted by: bleet at November 13, 2009 4:48 PMBleet:
"spirited defense of Kate's assertion that all leftists are anti-semites?"
Sorry, I've never contended that all leftists are anti-semites. You may be thinking of someone else. Perhaps you can provide a link.
Lot of boneheads out today.
Posted by: rabbit at November 13, 2009 5:01 PMrabbit:
bleet has proven time and time again he's the designated bonehead.
Posted by: set you free at November 13, 2009 5:14 PMObama may look Like Neuman but he's not as smart.
Here's one of Alfred's quotes:
"How come we choose from just two people for President, and fifty for Miss America?"
and another:
"Show me a trunk murderer and I'll show you a sloppy packer."
favill:
"It's too bad, that Pres Bush didn't continue eastward from Iraq and westward from Afghanistan, destroy Iran's Theocratic Gov't and emplace a democratic gov't."
That is a beef I have with Dubya. I appreciated how far he went, which was further than most ever would have, but he stopped short. Two points in his defence though, 1/ I can't even begin to imagine the howling by the Dems and the media if he'd pushed on through Iran and 2/ Who could have foreseen that in leaving Iran to the next guy that he would be leaving it to a light weight like Obama. I still can't believe that Americans could have had such a collective brain cramp.
Posted by: bob c at November 13, 2009 5:17 PMHey Bleet? Are you one of the exceptions?
I'm a bonehead, rabbit? More of that wonderful civility you're espousng to the members of the Hate and Death Cult here, huh? I guess "that's what political discourse has come down to these days", to quote you from above.
Turns out you have more in common with the Hate and Death cultists than you might have supposed.
In any case, you seem to feel, based on your earlier posts, that this is actually a "moderate conservative" site.
If so, do you consider Kate's earlier assertion that leftists are anti-semites to be a 'moderately conservative' position? You noted earlier with no specific examples, that the left has a 'deep and ugly association' with anti-semitism. Will you cross the rubicon and state with Kate that all leftists are anti-semites, and attest that this is the position of a moderate conservative?
Posted by: bleet at November 13, 2009 5:21 PMBleet, you typed "howzabout". Don't talk any more.
Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at November 13, 2009 5:38 PMBleet:
I did say that the hard left has a deep and ugly history of anti-semitism, but the "hard left" here means Stalinists and the like.
(1) I didn't say ALL leftists were anti-semitic. That would be ludicrous given that there are many Jews on the left.
(2) I did say that I sometime call people racists when they are overtly so, and Stalinists certainly qualify. So does writing "F*ck The Jews" IMHO.
You shouldn't li --- I mean you should do a better job of checking your facts.
Posted by: rabbit at November 13, 2009 5:51 PMHopefully I'm not one of the "bone heads" of which you speak. I simply called it like I see it, and provided a scrap of evidence to make my point quickly. Phantom summed it up best.
It appears rabbit that you've fallen into the same trap that I fell into, and that O'Reilly is in but trying to climb-out of. The trap is denying what is obvious so as not to appear, or be like those that we so loath: people with BDS. Well let me tell you something, I'm nothing like those with BDS. I've evaluated BO over the last year and I stand by my conclusion. The Bush = Hitler stuff you quote was baseless, and was simply a tactic, a Red Herring. Next you’re going to argue that T.McVeigh is proof that extreme Muslim views have nothing to do with terrorism. My father told me this: “You can lie to me, but don’t lie to yourself”. This is some of the best advice I’ve ever received, and it reigns true today. As long as we continue to lie to ourselves to appease those that would call us names unjustly, we are in grave danger. Does the Fort Hood massacre ring a bell?
What is becoming more obvious the more you comment it that you seem to have some liberal tendencies in your arguments and with your haughtiness. You attempt to use relativism as your argument even though you were not provoked. Except you were provoked, weren't you? Yes, it's becoming all to clear that you are one of those "I'm a conservative but.." types. So your argument is: yeah, yeah, Bush is an okay guy; but now you must say BO is a good guy to be FAIR; and, if you don't do as I say, it must be because you are not as sophisticated as I.
Like I said, provide an argument why I'm wrong about Obama; or, provide an argument why Bush is the same as Obama, but please don't tell me why you are so much better than me because you will not say what you think!
Oooh, bleet isn't feeling the love... Let me see if I can compose a bleet sample post on this topic.
"Miss Dubya? That queer, election stealing naked table dancer whose daddy got him into the TANG, and he didn't even bother to show up? That Bush? The drunk driving, coke head Bush that Cheney only kept around because he gave good head? The one that [on and on]...."
Or on the topic of, for example Limbaugh:
"Limbaugh? You mean that Viagra popping fudge packing draft dodging hypocrite who spends all the money he makes on gay sex tourism? That guy? The sexually inadequate headman of the white men?"
One could go on and on like this. You will notice that facts are never cited in his posts, nor are there appeals to logic. Just rejection of the take on any particular topic, followed by a rhetorical question with a crude admixture of sexual references, usually homosexual. Then he wonders why he gets no love here.
"Bush-Cheney regime"
"stolen election in 2000" (just guessing on this one.)
"Obama inherited.../...is Bush's fault"
"War Crimes"
"torture"
"McBush"
"way of the Whigs"
"Rethuglicans"
"America hates you losers"
"Bush's Daddy"
"National Guard"
"Beck and Limbaugh"
"sublimate the rage of [object of ad hominum] sexual inadequacies into their rant on [current topic]"
"right-wing substance abusers"
"[male figure popular on the right goes here] is gay and you guys are too much doofuses to know it, there are people who knew him in college who will swear that he [blew truck drivers for crack money/ danced naked on bars/had a boyfriend in college"
But rabbit, Kate has stated many times "Scratch a leftist find an anti-semite". Now you're a conservative, a moderate one like I gather you believe she is: do you concur with her assessment?
If not why do you post here? Are there not other 'moderate conservative' sites you can post at, where such statements, and the frequent postings of cartoons which depict racial stereotypes, are not the norm?
Are you here to convert the Hate and Death Cultists into 'moderate conservatism'? Please advise.
That is pretty funny coming from bleet. He throws around that "racist" charge like Obama tosses billion dollar bills of other people's money.
Google this 'bleet racist site:smalldeadanimals.com' , without the quotes.
Posted by: tim in vermont at November 13, 2009 7:00 PMI have always said.."Say what you will about Bush, but he was the right man at the right time!"
No one can say that about BO.
Posted by: zilla at November 13, 2009 7:05 PMMore of that wonderful civility you're espousng to the members of the Hate and Death Cult here, huh?
The irony is as thick as the one who posted the comment...
Indianess:
Well thank you for that political litmus test. It's the nature of political blogs that those who deviate in a little from the norm are often accused of apostasy. Such is life.
I suggest you reread my posts - carefully. There is nothing that is relativistic. And I hardly think that denying that Obama is an outright Marxist means I have (shudder) "liberal tendencies".
But I actually DO have liberal tendencies in that I am a classic liberal. I plead guilty. You've outed me.
Apart from that, I must admit I had trouble parsing your rant.
glacierman:
The repeal of Glass-Steagall, which was promoted by a Republican Congress, had ZERO, ZILCH, NADA to do with the Wall Street meltdown. Bears Sterns and Lehman, whose problems precipitated the crisis were pure investments banks, and did no retail/commercial banking. We don't have any G-S type restriction in Canada - all of our big banks do investment, commercial, and retail banking.
The difference is Canadian banks' mortgages are still mostly "originate to hold" - the bank gives you the money, and holds on to the note until it matures. American investment banks at first, and then quickly followed by retail banks, moved to "acquire to distribute" with a vengeance. There, you don't hold the mortgage any longer than you can; you buy a whack of them, package them up, and then pawn them off, quick as you can, on unsuspecting investors from Middle America (aided in no small part by the malfeasance of S&P and Moody's). So you don't care about the quality of the mortgage, or the mortgagee - you aren't going to be around when the proverbial hits the fan. That's why the mortgage market heated up so violently in the US, and less so in Canada, and why it fell so hard in the US, and less so in Canada.
Posted by: KevinB at November 13, 2009 8:09 PM"But calling him a liar, a racist, and sympathetic to terrorists is all part of the same radical partisan bullshit that had people calling Bush a Nazi."
Except, in this case, it is true.
Horny Toad
Posted by: Horny Toad at November 13, 2009 8:19 PMOh.You are a leftie alright,rabbit. You still haven't given answers to ANY of the questions posed to you. Typical.Just spout and squirm and hope Mommy comes home soon to save you.
Posted by: Justthinkin at November 13, 2009 8:19 PMJustthinkin:
Where are these questions you talk of (apart from Bleet, of course, which one can safely ignore)? Really, where are they?
Posted by: rabbit at November 13, 2009 9:18 PMtim in vermont at November 13, 2009 6:00 PM
Nicely theorized, Tim. I am in awe of your verbaligious abilitiquity. And you didn't even have to shoot stuff out of your staff!
"Well thank you for that political litmus test. It's the nature of political blogs that those who deviate in a little from the norm are often accused of apostasy. Such is life."
I'm not accusing you of anything that you don't freely admit: "But I actually DO have liberal tendencies in that I am a classic liberal".You came out swinging at me and I simply provided the basis for my statement which you have ignored, and pointed out that your tactic seems consistant with what I'd expect from a liberal. Where my critsism of you came in was when you "appeared" to be looking down your nose because I didn't meet YOUR litmus test of "I would only call someone a racist if they had were overtly so" and you project that standard on others. Once again, what I said about BO is true. If someone doesn't meet your standard then "apparently" they are "boneheads". This seems a little haughty to me and something I definatly assosiate with liberal. Do you understand that it's you that provided no basis for your argument except for your superior opinion. Get it?
All of that being said, had you considered that many people might think BO is "overtly racist" based on his aforementioned biography and public statements?
btw, you should reread your post concerning Bush/BO and you will find the "relativism" that I speak of.
Finally, there is no emotion or viterol in my comments towards BO; I don't hate him. I have my opinion of his views and his methods; although, admittedly he has pissed me off wrt his position in Afghanistan. I do believe he is playing politics with war, with Canadian lives.
Anyways, bigones:)
Posted by: Indiana Homez at November 14, 2009 10:25 AMHere's betting that bleet doesn't even know what a "classic liberal" is, which makes his emails kind of tragic, in a way. I almost feel sorry for him.
BTW bleet. Anytime you want to start discussing the issues, instead of dishing out personal attacks, you will be as welcomed back and treated civilly, I promise.
You could start by explaining why you use the term "racist", each time you use it, or at the very least, explaining it once, and stick around to defend its use. Most of us suspect (i.e. know) that you can't defend it. It is just a handy weapon.
Posted by: tim in vermont at November 16, 2009 5:42 AM'emails' should be posts. Not having a private flame war with the boy. Sometimes my spinal cord takes over typing for me and makes little mistakes.
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