... And Barack announces to the nation the tragedy by first using the term "shout out" then confusing the medal of honor and medal of freedom. I hope Barack wins a medal of honor so he knows the difference.

C'mon.Give the first Muslim Yank CIC a break. He's busy watching Michelle hulahoop.Narcissists don't visit anybody,except inside their empty heads.What a frickin disgrace Zero is.

Crawford is barely fifty miles from Fort Hood.

Coincidence? I think not.

Bush and Cheney are obviously behind all this, I tell you.

I'll be engaging my Truther contacts on this incident!

Obama on Fort Hood:

"We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said in a Rose Garden statement..."

Obama on Gates:

"But I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry; No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and, No. 3 ... that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately." The incident, Obama said, shows "how race remains a factor in this society."

... Muhammadan ... or Racist?

And the supporters of the Empty Suit continue to gave in something approaching pot addled euphoria at BHO when ever they get a chance. F'n sickening I call it.

Excellent take on the PC disease that allowed this travesty to happen.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/fort_hood_xjP9yGrJN7gl7zdsJ31vnJ

One genius salutes another: Steyn/Kate (at the Corner)

On the other hand, if you're still invested in Major Hasan's PPTSD (unique case of pre-Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder), you may prefer Kate McMillan:
"Allahu akbar." It's the new "cry for help".

Sorry, not quite on topic, but I've a feeling I'm not gonna get whacked.

Kate, I think you're the best copy-writer on the web.

here's PC for ya . . .

Since this guy had never deployed to any place with traumatic Stress and having someone call him a Camel Jockey really doesn't qualify as traumatic, then I can only conclude that in his case, in our PC world, he was suffering from PRE Traumatic Stress Disorder.

And where is Obama right now? In DC, working hard to force Democrats to vote for his destructive health care plan.

Lovely.

Of course. He is just waiting to pass the bill so he can collect the $15K each citizen must pay for the new "plan".
That way he can pay for the medical bills and trial/prison time for Allah's warrior.
George and Laura have the parental/leadership qualities which so many of us respect and admire. We might not always agree with their political policies but they know the meaning of family and all that entails.

And where is the man-child Negro? Shooting hoops, golfing, or just out back of the white house having a smoke.

This treason within our society needs to be eradicated. The truth must be admitted & addressed. A military that refuses to protect its own is incapable of protecting or defending anything.

We need to commission 13 nuclear warheads; each named for one of the victims of this Terrorist action...

The only question is what 13 ME cities win the lottery... ASAP

Hugh Hewitt's description: Sudden jihad syndrome.

You know, Ill bet that W didn't bother to take photographers with him, the way Zero did when he went to Dover last week.

But this wasn't just a photo-op. Big difference.

I missed GW & Laura.

Momar, "back of the white house having a smoke". At least he has one redeeming value.

I miss Bush's response to hurricane Katrina victims.

Momar @11:43 - I'm probably out of line here, but so are you. Dammit!...

(I mean, has the word "Negro" even ever been used unironically since around 1975 or something?)

Well, I don't give a damn about his pigmentation. I just have a problem with ereything else about him.

everything.

Except the response to hurricanes has and should be the duty of the state. Their constitution protects the states sovereignty, but I can see if you think that isn't true, you would also believe in every other big government agenda item the socialists are pushing now.

Hey, did Dubya play guitar for'em like he did for Katrina victims?

Did he jump on his plane and fly fearfully from one place to another like he did on 9/11?

Not a great president.
But a great man.
I miss him too.

DaWG
A resident of America's Hat.©

Bleet, you are spectacularly beyond stupid.

Has anyone else listened to this BBC interview? http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/

The federal govt.sent millions of dollars to the state of Louisiana to build and fortify the dikes and levees around New Orleans and the dems frittered it away on vote getting social programs.

Black Mamba, "everything", it is worth repeating as it shows a certain amount of conclusiveness.

Hmmmm, they made their "private visit" said "Bush spokesman" in a press release...

Surprised he made it the short distance over from Crawford...must've had a a 'sober' moment.

Truely.

"Truely" re. Ken (Kulak). Obviously everything bleet just said was completely stupidissimo.

The 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall should be enough of a reminder that we need to push back twice as hard against bleet and his freedom-hating ilk.

Now there's a bunch of dead soldiers Bush probably wants photographed for the national media. He probably wants the perp tortured as well.

Compassion, empathy, sympathy are all alien concepts to the far left and tragedies like this are simply ammunition to explain what is wrong in America rather than the leaders championing what is great in America.

Tragedies are opportunities for liberals to blame and create anger in the population, not time for caring, supporting and unifying. The events of 9-11 unified the nation and in only a few years the blaming and seething hatred from the left poisoned the well driving a wedge through the heart of the country at the exact time when Americans should have been coming together to rediscover what really makes America Great.

Sacrifice and hard work is what made America and Americans great, not the sacrifice of freedoms we see today. Since World War II the politics and the partisan blame game have castrated patriotism turning it into a notion that Love of Country is guaged only by if the World loves America.

The left have turned the work ethic into the entitlement demand, turned freedoms into catalysts for regulation and fostered the insane notion that capitalism needs a road map.

Americans want the Government to cheer for them and give them a level field on which to compete, not run the race for them or to pick them up when they fall. Failures and setbacks used to be called character lessons, now they are simply a reason to utter the phrase "we cannot ever let this happen again" and usher in some new larger Government intervention.

On the one hand, we have class. On the other, boorishness and cold remove. I suspect the good people here know who is guilty of the latter.
"Allah Akhbar" is the new cry for help? Then God help us.

I don't have guns now, but I know how to rack a slide.

"everything bleet just said was completely stupidissimo."

Alright ... Intelligence may not be his strong suit, but he is consistent.

Well, it IS bleet.
And- off-tangent- no pity for anyone who doesn't prepare for the worst nature can topple on one, including Katrina. Place the blame on the governor and mayor of New Orleans who did jack for their citizens.

Although I seriously doubt that OBOZO is capable of weighing the consequences....
He is likely fully aware that a gaff or percieved gaffe does...
Much like Bleet.....manufacturing a smear out of security pre-set security protocols....
This fort Hood event points up several inconvenient truths...
Devout sharia following individuals are public safety hazards...
"Gun free zones" even on military bases are insane and lethal....Columbine, Virginia Tech, the Montreal Massacre, Dawson all involved "gun free zones". The one shooting incidident in the crowded mall in Salt Lake City, was interdicted by an armed licenced CC...because the mall was NOT a "gun free zone".
OBOZO clearly illustrated what a shallow, empty individual he is by in effect minimalizing the event.
It is interesting to note that the circumstances Bleet refers to actually demonstrated a clear difference to OBOZOs reaction. Using his executive authority GWB deviated from the carefully planned security protocols to return to Washington---the wisdom of which, at that point, was questionable....hind sight is such a lovely thing.

Thank god Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld are GONE. Thanks to them we have a complete mess in Iraq and Afghanistan. Weapons of mass distruction my ass. Warmonger Rumsfeld was talking about Iraq right after 9/11 with absolutely no proof that Iraq had anything to do with the attacks. The sooner the USA and Canada are out of Afghanistan the better. Britain is finally realising this. Powell was the only one with any brains in the administration and but twiddle dee, twiddle dumb and twiddle dumber would not take his cogent advice.

"I miss Bush's response to hurricane Katrina victims."

I guess you would compare that to "the big empty's" with holding of the H1N1 Flu vaccine to kill all the white children in America!!

Horny Toad

"Thank god Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld are GONE. Thanks to them we have a complete mess in Iraq and Afghanistan. Weapons of mass distruction my ass. Warmonger Rumsfeld was talking about Iraq right after 9/11 with absolutely no proof that Iraq had anything to do with the attacks. The sooner the USA and Canada are out of Afghanistan the better. Britain is finally realising this. Powell was the only one with any brains in the administration and but twiddle dee, twiddle dumb and twiddle dumber would not take his cogent advice.Thank god Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld are GONE. Thanks to them we have a complete mess in Iraq and Afghanistan. Weapons of mass distruction my ass. Warmonger Rumsfeld was talking about Iraq right after 9/11 with absolutely no proof that Iraq had anything to do with the attacks. The sooner the USA and Canada are out of Afghanistan the better. Britain is finally realising this. Powell was the only one with any brains in the administration and but twiddle dee, twiddle dumb and twiddle dumber would not take his cogent advice."

Hey, hows that Obama guy working out got you. Lets see. Almost complete collapse of the US economy. Laughing stock in all the major countries around the world. Russians are emboldened. Tehran deveoping a nuclear bomb they INTEND to use. Aha, but he DID get the Nobel Peace Prize for--for--for- remind me again what that was for.

I miss "W".

Horny toad

Horny Toad

For your information Obama's popularity remains high in European countries (i.e. Nobel Peace Prize) as well as in Canada. Former President Clinton's popularity is high as well in Canada, he is loved here. You have proof that Tehran is developing nuclear weapons and that they "intend" to use them? You should share this knowledge with the CIA.

"Thank god Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld are GONE. Thanks to them we have a complete mess in Iraq and Afghanistan. Weapons of mass distruction my ass. Warmonger Rumsfeld was talking about Iraq right after 9/11 with absolutely no proof that Iraq had anything to do with the attacks. The sooner the USA and Canada are out of Afghanistan the better. Britain is finally realising this. Powell was the only one with any brains in the administration and but twiddle dee, twiddle dumb and twiddle dumber would not take his cogent advice.Thank god Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld are GONE. Thanks to them we have a complete mess in Iraq and Afghanistan. Weapons of mass distruction my ass. Warmonger Rumsfeld was talking about Iraq right after 9/11 with absolutely no proof that Iraq had anything to do with the attacks. The sooner the USA and Canada are out of Afghanistan the better. Britain is finally realising this. Powell was the only one with any brains in the administration and but twiddle dee, twiddle dumb and twiddle dumber would not take his cogent advice."

Hey, hows that Obama guy working out got you. Lets see. Almost complete collapse of the US economy. Laughing stock in all the major countries around the world. Russians are emboldened. Tehran deveoping a nuclear bomb they INTEND to use. Aha, but he DID get the Nobel Peace Prize for--for--for- remind me again what that was for.

I miss "W".

Horny toad

and I miss Ronnie

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/reagan_berlin_wall/2009/11/06/282960.html?s=al&promo_code=9058-1

If someone threw a (non-bladed) weapon at me [at this point, I'm assuming he's friendly] I'm going to fire at their face.

American soldiers are supposed to be supermen, they aren't. They are supposed to be taken care-of by psychiatrists.

Quoted: For your information Obama's popularity remains high in European countries (i.e. Nobel Peace Prize) as well as in Canada. Former President Clinton's popularity is high as well in Canada, he is loved here.

Yeah, and our country should apologize profusely for having such affection for two empty suits.

There was a lot about his presidency that I didn't like, but fundamentally President Bush was a decent man. I do miss him.

Will you people please stop pointing out all of Bleet's,T's Hairyballs,new/info, etc stupidity??? I am collecting them all, and plan to publish them in a book. Now,I just need a good name for the book.
I miss both W and Ronnie.

One thing about Bleet - he'll never need the services of a brain surgeon. You can't operate on something that ain't there.

As for Obummer - when it comes to the Ft. Hood terrorist attack - he along with the alphabet networks are pissing on our shoes and telling us its raining outside.

T, no one asked me if I liked either Clinton or Obama and I suspect nothing anyone here has tried to impress upon you took. If you want to know (and I'm sure you don't but I AM going to tell you, anyway) I don't like Clinton the lying philander nor do I like his successor, Mr. Empty-Suit.
And while Obama may have charmed the naive in Canada and Europe (however few they may be, RE: CANADA and POLAND), it doesn't matter because they don't vote for him. Gush all you want but you can't fill a ballot box.
Weren't we talking about the Bushes' magnanimity? Oh yes- good show, guys.

T, you seem to be an excellent example of the thinking of the liberal/socialist side of the world.
You seem to be impressed by the talking and thinking that Obama is so incredibly capable of in front of his teleprompter.
We conservative/libertarians are impressed by the actions of a person.
George & Laura went to see the soldiers and talk with them.
Obama is in Washington, trying to ram a socialist health care system down the throats of the American people without letting them have a look at the documents in any real manner. How long do you think it will be before you can read and digest a 2000 page document before you put the whole country into such debt that your grandchildren will never pay it off?
Can you get your head around any of this?
Actions speak so much louder than words, that is how you judge a man!!!
Is this the change you are gushing over?

Bush and his wife went to Fort Hood to visit the wounded and their families. No photo-op.

Compare that with Obama's photo-op, at a soldier's return, (photos are something Bush would never allow)...which action was purely political, to show that he was 'really' involved in Afghanistan. Oh, by the way, has Obama reacted to the military's request for more troops? Not yet? No? Oh...

What did Obama do today? First, he worked on his socialist agenda, to force the American people into a radical takeover of their govt into BIG Govt. As noted, he's insisting that they pass this bill, without reading it. That's a denigration of Congress and the American people.

11:25AM THE PRESIDENT addresses the House Democratic Caucus – Cannon House Office Building

2:30PM THE PRESIDENT makes a statement to the press on Health Care – Rose Garden

2:45PM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY depart The White House en route Camp David – South Lawn

And then? Off to Camp David. Golfing.

Katrina wasn't a disaster, it was a series of free shopping days for the jobless and an opportunity to move to Texas. The Democrat mayor and govenor encourged it and helped to bring it about.

I miss "W".

Horny toad
Posted by: Horny Toad at November 7, 2009 2:14 PM"

uh, horny: google 'cia project merlin'.

the CIA *GAVE* Iran the blueprints to a fission bomb with a teensy weensy imperfection in a grade school style scheme that they would try to build one (with the flaw), fail at it, and give up.

got that? the US of A *GAVE* Iran the blueprints for the biggest WMD available, a nuclear bomb.

I dont give a rodent's tush what part slick willy and what part dubya had, the amerkuns GAVE Iran the god&^#&m BLUEPRINTS.

I read the book by James Risen. why dont you?

CG, building a nuclear device is not a particularly difficult thing to do. What's your point?

In the early 70's, I worked alongside an Iraqi PhD graduate student in a Canadian lab that, among other things, specialized in the pathology of organisms used for biological weapons. Can't remember whether he left the lab before I did or not, but I do know that wherever he went, he went with the knowledge necessary to make, use, treat and intensify biological weapons. So again, what's your point?

"Intelligence may not be [bleet's] strong suit, but he is consistent."

I don't know why this quote comes to mind...

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

"I do not miss the war at all"

That could be because the war is ongoing. You must be the guy who taught "new" English.

Curious_George @4:55

Listen, Georgie, I'm going to ask you to put on your thinking cap for a moment. I realize that it may put a cramp in your cranium from the unaccustomed strain, but bear with me. It will be worth it.

First point: the CIA knew that Iran was working to develop a nuclear weapon; that's no secret, the peckerheads have been bragging about it.

Second point: So the CIA gives them some doctored plans. Big hairy deal. If their nuclear weapons program is well along, it gives them no information they don't already have. Remember that Pakistani physicist A.Q. Khan already gave them a set of plans. So if they are beyond that point already, no harm, no foul. If they aren't beyond that point, there is some small chance that they will be taken in, and waste months or years building a guaranteed dud.

Third point: if the plans include a parts list with certain identifiable items on it, and suppliers of these items suddenly get requests from other than their normal customers, that provides an opportunity for the CIA to smoke out and nail Iranian agents seeking to procure such items. It's called "bait", George.

Read any history of intelligence operations, and you will find instances of one party gaining information on the other party's capabilities based upon their reaction to purposely-leaked misinformation.

It may be a bit simplistic and folksy for the leftoids to get but the honesty of your answer will speak volumes. Not withstanding the status of presidency/celebrity, who would you rather have over for a Sunday dinner? There would be no question for me to invite the Texas rancher and his wife instead of the Chicago "community organizer/lawyer.

Tim in Vermont - Good quote,and there is some truth there, too bad it's from Ralph Waldo Emerson and his unitarian philosophies.

The only thing that surprises me at Obama's actions, Is unlike the Islamists of the World he's not shouting or dancing the shooter up as a hero. Just a sad victim of stress.
In this Era being made stressful is on par with FEELING disabused like our HRC Stazi. We all have to bow to their sentiments least they become killers or hurt emotionally.

Good enough reason for secularists to excuse another serial killer Muslim as victim.
The obstruction of our real enemies. Of any true Justice, can only mean our demise as a civilization when we weep for our executioners.
We have become mad with PC, our institutions all compromised by a fifth column, that is socially protected by an insane Polity bent on accusing the builders of this society. By an Ideology proven destructive & murderous.
JMO

A question for the leftard trolls out there.....
Exactly when does Zero start to own the presidency?

What does that mean, you ask?

It means, when does he accept that, as CIC, he has the responsibility for the Iraq and Afstan conflicts, the ones the teleprompter railed so much against during the campaign. So, when does he own that, when does he own the economic situation of the US? It wasn't Bush that TARP'd the banks, it wasn't Bush that created the abortion known as the $787 Billion Porkulus bill, which has done nothing for the US situation.....

The Zero will only be known later for his inability to speak without the teleprompter, and his kowtowing to Moonbats Pelosi and Reid, if the US survives his profligate deficit spending

Here's one Iraqi-American who was only too happy to go to Iraq:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SaddamSpiderHole.jpg

The thing to remember here, is Obama skipping Ft. Hood to work on health care looks GOOD to the people who voted for him. He's getting them free goodies like he promised, and who cares if some bunch of red necks got waxed in Texas anyway? They probably tortured the poor Muslim guy until he went postal on them.

That's Barry's constituency. That's the choir he's preaching to. The ones who think Bush is Hitler.

But don't worry, he's got some gun control thing lined up to hit right after he's done rahming through carbon cap'n trade. That's when he'll start having wounded Ft. Hood soldiers over for beers on the back lawn.

T, dude.... so what if Clinton and Obama are still very popular in Europe and Canada? Europe has long been a cause lost to socialism (from the nationalist kind of the 30s & 40s to today's overweening welfare state) and Canada is the sole developed country to have consistently snatched mediocrity from the jaws of greatness, thanks to leftards in the Trudeau vein of non-thinking. Using Europe and Canada as a reference to support US presidential greatness is like using Tony Soprano to vouch for the honesty of the Newark, New Jersey DA's honesty. Irrelevant at best, morally corrupt at worst.

The whole point is so simple it totally flies over the pointy heads of the leftards: GWB, no matter what his limitations, has and still does behave like a mensch, while everything Obama does is coldly calculated to burnish his image. The fact that you leftards have no sort of comprehension of what it means to be human is of no surprise. You progressives are post-human, meaning you are empty of all morality and of everything that makes us people. No wonder you hate genuine folks - they make you feel like the empty, discarded shells you are. And hey, if you don't like my charactarisation of you progressives, bite me. I've likely done more for my fellow canadians for no other reason than it's the right thing to do than all of you self-congratulatory, vapid and frightend little leftists.

T: "For your information Obama's popularity remains high in European countries (i.e. Nobel Peace Prize) as well as in Canada."

Yes, those European and Canadian supporters are no doubt going to be a crucial voter demographic in the 2012 election.

gordo: obviously then you didn't read the book.

the 'flaw' in the plans was so glaring the soviet double agent assigned by the CIA to 'sell' the blueprints spotted it real quick and 'offered' to 'provide additional technical services if needed'.

it is a fools game to provide plans for such a terrible weapon to the enemy in hopes of *maybe* ferreting out *their* agents. can you cite any other time in the history of warfare this has been done? hmmm? any time in all recorded history anywhere in the world a nation gave the enemy plans for the biggest weapon in their arsenal.

I'm waiting !!!

here's a hint: now that the planted flaw is outed, Iran *knows* their Bomb will work when the parts are acquired.

I miss W. too. A good man. A fair precedent.

Sorry, moonbats. Katrina was New Orlean's
Darwin Award.

I miss him, too.

Heh, George. That was the flaw they were supposed to find. It's the hidden one that will make it blow up in their faces when they do their trial assembly. Mohammedan bomb-makers have "work accidents" all the time. The one that's upcoming in Iran will be a dilly.

Wait a minute here. You guys are mad that Obama hasn't done...something...about the Fort Hood tragedy...but back when Katrina happened and 1800 people died, and Bush did nothing but fly over looking out of an airplane window, that was A-OK?

Yet according to the comments here, Katrina was no tragedy but a "Darwin Award" and a "fre shopping day".

Why? Simply because it reflected badly your Lord and Fuehrer, George Bush Jr.!

Meanwhile, President Obama passed a signature achievement of his presidency tonight.

Suck on that, losers!

Ah, the Blame Czar.

It's all Bush's fault.

What? Obama passed some gas? That would be about as much as he's accomplished so far.

The day "W" and his lovely wife, Laura, left the Whitehouse I felt a terrible sense of loss. I felt a persistent tug in my soul to turn back the hands of time and rest easy for a little bit longer; secure in the knowledge that there was a grown up, who cared about my freedom, in charge of the mightiest free nation the world has ever known. "W" made the USA a safe secure ship in a time of turmoil and distress here in Canada- the troika of traitor boyz, the temperature hysteria, the anti smoke bedwetters, the greenis (blubber lubbers) etc. "W" just vetoed the temperature (kyotee) thingie, he refused to make Federal laws that stigmatized and criminalized citizens smoking a legal, everyday cigarette (even though he did not smoke himself), he would have never allowed anyone to tamper with the 2nd amendment, he loved the troops - and it showed - he celebrated and cheered for them and he cried with them. "W" is a good man and Laura is a gracious lady.

The msm sneer and demean good, decent people. Most American/Canadian citizens are good, decent people. Shocking for the msm, the citizens of both nations are realizing that the msm look down on us for believing their spider web of half truths and lies via omission. The internet sites like sda have changed things. Courageous people like Kate and the posters here have punched holes in the webs and the desperate spiders are loosing the fodder for their existence. Most of the msm are in denial but us real people have moved on well past them. We don't even read or consider their drivel anymore.

Thank-you Kate and sda posters and commentators for keeping your readers sane by supporting the good guys.

I still miss "W" and I know that the troops do too. My prayers are with the people who lost a loved ones to bullets fired by a bloody, murdering, traitor. Thank-you Mr. and Mrs. Bush for going to grieve with them and us.

Imagine having an adolescent 'shout out' with news like this tragedy on the front plate! I blushed with shame as I watched the 'new' President make a fool of himself once again; in front of the world and the American people. The latter should do more 'smoking out back' and less blabbing, IMO.

bleet @1:41 - President Obama is Commander in Chief of the United States armed forces. President Bush was not Commander in Chief of New Orleans. The government failures that aggravated the Katrina disaster - e.g. failure to maintain the levees, to implement a useful evacuation plan - occurred at the municipal and state level. I realize that this probably doesn't jibe with your political philosophy, but not everything is the responsibility of the federal government. Especially in the United States.

Katrina was a catastrophe, it was a tragedy, but it wasn't an act of war, like 9/11, nor was it another attack on the Nation, which the Ft. Hood incident obviously was. Katrina was a natural disaster that was horribly mismanaged, in large part by many of its "victims" (I realize it probably doesn't jibe with your personal philosophy, but people are responsible for not turning into predatory criminals the second there's a flood).

Yes, the President should go to the scene of all major national disasters when that's practicable. Maybe Bush ought to have shown up, in person, on the ground, in New Orleans in the immediate aftermath of the hurricane. Maybe not; maybe he would have been in the way. But the two situations really aren't analogous.

(I do appreciate it, though, bleet, when you actually make an effort to make a point that makes some kind of sense. Keep at it!)

Who cares "Mamba"? Your previous racist rantings invalidate anything you say, even when you try to talk all purty-like like you do here.

Give me one single example of anything I have ever written that could possibly be described as racist, you lying little creep.

(Sorry, Kate. If he makes me pursue this nonsense I'll give him my email.)

Bring it on Mamba,mom's out working the streets and she thinks I'm out looking for a job so I'll be here all day.

I have no idea why you give bleet the time of day. I remember one time that I was downtown and decided to argue with some "troofers". Turned out that they were "metally challanged", really. I was so embarrassed that I had even started the conversation with those poor people I put five bucks in their little money jar. Don't know why bleet reminds me of those guys....

If you're going to slander me, bleet, make with some proof - an example of my "racism" - or SHUT UP.

If you have nothing pertinent to say, then that's it from me.

tim in vermont - er, yes.

Black Mamba,

Just ignore bleet. When he completely brushes your counter-points aside like that, that means you've poked holes in his "blame Bush" argument and he has no counter.

It's like a debate I was having with him where he made a claim that Christians that were against a public universal health care system weren't acting in accordance with the teachings of Jesus and somehow didn't care about dead babies. Even though Jesus never talks about the righteousness of supporting publicly funded industries, I asked him what Jesus would've thought about a system that lets people in need of care die on waiting lists. He immediately brushed it aside as some right-wing propaganda and didn't address it at all.

Yet we're supposed to consider all of his arguments as valid.

I suppose it's possible that he isn't one of the finest minds of his generation.

bleet --

Black Mamba's explanation can be summarized with three words: Separation of Powers.

It basically defines where each level of government has jurisdiction and, implicitly, where each government does not have jurisdiction. America's Constitution is built on it.

Separation of Powers exonerates Bush on Katrina and damns Obama on Fort Hood.

"Black Mamba's explanation can be summarized with three words: Separation of Powers."

Mark, the only separation Bleet understands is separating the stems from the seeds.

You miss a fool who should be jailed.