Hmm. Wonder who did it...

Prayers for the wounded, the dead and their families.

see, the amerkuns with their thousands of firearms deaths per year DO need to tighten up firearms regulations as unpopular as that is with numerous of the lobbyists, er, legislators.

Twelve dead including one of the gunmen,two gunmen in custody.If true that there were three gunmen then that indicates some planning involved.Now the reports indicate the shooters were soldiers as well,never one to miss an opportunity to be on camera,the prez is going to address the nation shortly,they just need a little time to set up the teleprompters.

see, the amerkuns with their thousands of firearms deaths per year DO need to tighten up firearms regulations as unpopular as that is with numerous of the lobbyists, er, legislators.
Posted by: curious_george at November 5, 2009 4:49 PM

That is the most asinine comment I have read in a long time.

Hmm. Wonder who did it...
Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at November 5, 2009 4:22 PM

Now, I'm certainly waiting before coming to any kind of conclusion. But, I must admit, my immediate gut reaction was to suspect the adherents of a certain Religion Of Peace™.

We will wait and see as the story unfolds, but I'll not be surprised if my suspicion is verified.

Kathryn, well said.

Anyone see Obama and listen to his drivel? The man is a certified nut case!!!! He wasn't even on topic until he tried to make himself look important. Does the states have a method of recall? Please tell me they can recall him!

The only sensible way to prevent this type of tragedy from happening again is to not let the military have access to guns.

Curious George,

This event involved soldiers on a army base where there are, for some strange reason, firearms.

I know that curious guys like you like to have their boyfriends dress up like soldier and policemen and even firemen, but some of us like to keep military matters and sex separate.

Early reports are at least one of the shooters has a "muslim" sounding name and was in the military. We will know soon, but it does look planned and it looks very bad.

The reality is that we in Canada often treat our base security pretty lightly. Anyone can walk right on CFB Edmonton or CFB Shilo. I shutter to think of the possibilities.

Momar 5:16

lol - like shooting fish in a barrel.

Nalik Nada Hasam is the name of the one shooter that was killed. Very old school name from Iowa. I am sure this is a crazy American gun nut and not some misunderstood freedom fighter.

The base processes returnees from Iraq and Afghanistan....I wonder if this is a case of shell shock, or a small Jihad by recently converted soldiers who returned from there.

If religion is involved, then this could be very touchy for all Americans.

Prayers go out to the dead, wounded and families.

Major Malik Nadal Hassan

curious_george posted "see, the amerkuns with their thousands of firearms deaths per year DO need to tighten up firearms regulations as unpopular as that is with numerous of the lobbyists, er, legislators."

Perhaps george did not read that the gunmen "appear" to be soldiers. Even our infamous gun registry would allow soldiers access to firearms or is the lack of firearms the reason for the extended battle in Afghanistan???

The murderer is named . . .

The gunman was a soldier, and two other soldiers have been detained as suspects, Army Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said.

The slain gunman was Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan,

But! But! But! Tim wrote in the other thread - possibly as the killings were taking place - that everything's A-OK, Muslim-wise.

I suggest a Koran or imam registry as the logical conclusion to this mass slaying.

Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan

No doubt a Saracen.

Obama gives a shout-out to an audience member, then gets around to talking about Fort Hood ... at the 2+ minute mark!

Malik Nadal Hasan

That was one of the names on the Mayflower, wasn't it?

An example of "diversity and inclusiveness" policies and other progressive drivel.

When this type inclusiveness fails it's a disaster and there are thousands of them waiting to happen all over the western world.

The above is referencing Allah's Zombies in America and elsewhere.

Ya, lets just keep letting them in eh?

Three of them?
And a major who's a muslim?

Going out on a limb here:
The MSM will spin it into something lame like blaming us westerners (- pick any reason, really) with loads of intense pity for the poor shooters who've have to put up with living/working with non-muslims.

Obama sent his sincerest prayers, though I'm just not sure to whom they are meant for.

Not much anyone can do about spontaneous outbursts of terrorism/insanity like this, regardless of your security measures. If an individual does not talk about it, then how could anyone tip of the cops?

Not a report that I've seen yet has said either Muslim or Islam, but with a name like that, I'm betting that disgruntled papist is nowhere near correct.

But, no cell phone video with "Allah Akbar" chants and gunfire?

The SWAT team guys film as soon as they get on the scene, wonder how long before we get to see that footage?

If an individual does not talk about it, then how could anyone tip of the cops?

And the other two arrested were .... ?

Uhmmmm I hate to burst the bubble of some you right wingers. But Barry's Sec. of Homeland security did warn about the risk of wacko's like members of the fringe political parties and VETERNS......I wonder if Homland Security specificly mentioned muslim veterns?????? Sarcasism is now OFF :)

Sadly, my first thought was - which station will actually report the name of the dead perpetrator?

It's sad when news reporting isn't

Oh oh..Wolf Blitzer askin' the tough question,on what his ethnic background is..seems he was from Jordan.Also..he's a psychiatrist,and was pi**ed off about being deployed to Iraq

mitchel44: I heard a local reporter on Fox say that man involved was a convert to Islam. Of course Fox is loathe to name the man in case it is not correct but the local newspaper reporter had no difficulty in naming the religion of the major. Now Fox is naming Malik Nadal Hasan and stating that he was a psychiatrist.

It has been confirmed that he IS a convert to islam *spit* Fair bet the other two will be, also.

Small pic here

Considering %% of muslim population in North America, the things are quickly coming to the point where it will be Wild West scenario: who draws first.

Considering what has been revealed so far about this tragedy, one has to be wondering.

Was this event intentionally orchestrated to try to influence Obama's Afghanistan policy?

You are all well aware of the fact that American generals have been pushing for more troop in Afghanistan. They have said that the success of the mission entirely depends on something like 40,000 more troops.

Obama is naturally reluctant to send these troops, because the far left of the Democratic Party would quickly disavow his presidency if he seemed to be prolonging the war effort.

Now suddenly, on a military base, a highly educated man who has converted to Islam, along with a team of confederates, goes on a killing spree.

Of course, the far left will use this as a device to decry our presence in Afghanistan and to insist on a withdrawal of troops.

We all know that Obama, in addition to his other faults, is a weak president without the backbone or the fervency, or the personal conviction, to have a big stake in Afghanistan.

If this scenario is true, we won't know it for years to come. However, it does seem very suspicious to me.

A psychiatrist no less. I and others have wondered about incidents of islamic extremists going berserk having been under psyshiatric care here in North America. The guy in Vancouver that stabbed the people in the gay parade comes to mind.I suspect that with the right doctor,one could live in Canada collecting disability until Allah called.

Does the states have a method of recall? Please tell me they can recall him!
Posted by: Joe at November 5, 2009 5:13 PM"

its called impeachment joe. ask tricky dick's surviving supporters about it. perhaps it is a foreign concept in Canada since we have no way of recalling any elected member thru governmental means alone.

as far as my comment about the amerkuns needing to tighten up their firearms management and control, deep in right wing territory that is an asinine comment. not so much in the real world.

can anyone play connect the dots and explain how momar he pulls sex into the thread?

According to MSNBC, a psychiatrist went berserk. Color me unsurprised.

His cousin is being interviewed. The Major was always a Muslim, not a convert as has been reported.
But, he was harassed. Harassed.
Don't you know a psychiatrist wouldn't know how to deal with harassment??

Apparently, there were three gunmen. The dead one was a muslim - and the press bleats "The motive is unknown". Heck, the guy had the same Husseiny name as Barry H. Obama

I also listened to the cousin interview: seems this shooter was happy to be in the military, had been since age 18, collecting a six figure salary as a psychiatrist, a nice American-born Muslim by birth. Sounds to me that the shooter was awfully p---'d off to have his nice Doctor's life interrupted with the reality of being in the military! What a baby!
But I doubt that's the whole story....

curious_george, your use of the epithet amerikun instead of American is offensive and unnecessary.

Fundamentally, Canadians and Americans are just a big group of friends and extended relatives. That you would use this derogatory characterization of the United States when 12 innocent people with families who love them were murdered says a lot about you.

Second, you demonstrate a lot of ignorance about American gun laws.

In the United States, gun ownership is a fundamental Constitutional right, like speech or assembly. Moreover, recent Supreme Court decisions have affirmed that gun ownership is an individual right in the US.

States and municipalities do regulate guns in their lawful areas. For example, in Texas one can drive around with a gun in the car provided it is concealed. Still, one must take special training in preparation in order to carry a concealed weapon. Each state in different.

Fort Hood is a military base, and as such all firearms are supposed to be locked away and inaccessible to people outside of normal guard and training activities.

So the fact of the matter is that this psychiatrist was in violation of laws and regulations when he took two unauthorized firearms out before his killing spree. As you can see he was already breaking regulations and laws simply by having these firearms available to him on the base.

curious_george you do have a problem with comprehension don't you. Bill Clinton was impeached but was NOT removed from office. Richard Nixon RESIGNED from office and was not removed from office by means of impeachment. BTW I would suggest that you do a bit of reading on the achievements of Richard Nixon. You might just be surprised at his foresight and wisdom.

Sammy at November 5, 2009 6:29 PM

[speculation]He wasn't p'd off about going to Iraq. He was a a deep agent, I'm pretty, sure. [/speculation]

Fox News has great coverage of this, as usual. It sounds like the perp might have been very frustrated by his work and upcoming deployment. His cousin said he worked at Walter Reed as a shrink. Before jumping on the "Muslim terrorist" bandwagon, I would counsel a little compassion for a guy who tended the wounded back from the wars. The cousin also said this guy was very bothered by harassment he had suffered as a Muslim man in the military. It seems like a man in this position might not be a happy camper. This tragedy may turn out to have been caused more by terrible stresses on our military folks than some sort of Islamic terrorism. Time will tell.

Allowing practising muslims to serve in the Canadian or American military (during these times)is like petting a rattlesnake...sooner or later you're going to get bit!

Wow it is really terrible that so many of you commentators are focusing on this poor guys name.

..Oh what the hell! - did you notice the killers name - more American than "George Washington"!

Mike Kelley at November 5, 2009 7:45 PM

Oh give me break, credulous idiot. Doubtless this will be the story line from the MSM and Barry Hussein.

My question would be: How many people have to die before you Dhimmis wake up to the fact Islam is like unstable nitroglycerin. How many millions have to be slaughtered before your survival instincts kick in? If you lefties apologizing for the Islamists. Even if have one left, that is.

In the past, when a killers known religion has been acknowledged as fundamentalist Christian or Hindu, the media has not held back on pointing out this religious angle to the killer's motive. I hope this acknowledgment of the killers religion isn't buried or only printed "below the fold". It appears to me that religion played a part in this murderous spree, as well as the fact that educating him (at least the one Dr.) well above the average didn't help him loose the shackles of his religion either. It isn't enough to simply blame poor and uneducated Islamists as being the ones guilty of terrorist like behavior, but those that "seem normal" are far from normal as well. What is in common among them?
Their so called religion of peace.

My thoughts and prayers for free Americans both here and in the USA. God Bless...

It was a terrorist attack, pure and simple. The inflitrator was a Major in the US military and was 'upset' at being deployed.
Seems to me this looks a lot like a sleeper and the strike on the base came at a time they thought might be useful. MSM will spin until they are dizzy but it won't change what happened. What REALLY happened.

Before jumping on the "Muslim terrorist" bandwagon, I would counsel a little compassion for a guy who tended the wounded back from the wars.

Now that you mention it, and I don't know if someone else here already asked, but if Hasan was a psychiatrist who saw returning combat soldiers - and Fort Hood had some suicides - what role did Hasan maybe play in their deaths? He had a high level of trust and rapport with soldiers because he was a psychiatrist. I'm not saying he did anything for certain, but flipping through several radio stations one mentioned the suicide rate at Fort Hood and I'm curious.

Our George just seems to get curiouser and curiouser

Joe @ 7:42 pm, thanks. I was going to tell him that, but you beat me to it.

One thing overlooked about these Jihadi's that I know from personal experience---they distrust educated folk but still maintain a few as resource people. The location of the aircraft strikes and the fully fueled planes was deliberate and calculated.
Predictably this will bring ALL MUSLIMS IN THE US MILITARY under-suspicion. This event may be a clever, deliberate way to purge what the Jihadis view as traitors from the US ARMY.
The mere fact that the dead perpetrator is a psychiatrist points to this....head games....

Mike Kelly there were 3 attackers according to the Post and the Globe.
Don't really see how that could be one guy under stress.

Amy P.

You have to wonder if he did any damage to the soldiers. Why would they have someone who hates American and especially American soldiers tending to the wounded American soldiers?

That's crazy on any level.

Actually, the strictest gun control measures in the country are on military bases. You cannot have a weapon on your person, in your car (except for transport) or in government quarters. Privately owned Weapons must be checked into the company arms room.

We live in the only country in the world that doesn't trust its own soldiers with weapons.

Contrary to curious george's stupid comment, ONE sodier in that room with a weapon could have ended the carnage sooner. The gunman/men KNEW the soldiers were unarmed.

This will happen again, more and more, when terrorist realize soldiers have no firearms anywhere they are stationed in the US.

I risk giving them ideas by saying that, but it's only a matter of time before they figure it out on their own and we need to arm our soldiers, everywhere, immediately.

In Germany, after a terrorist attack, we patrolled post with unloaded weapons because command was afraid a soldier would shoot an innocent person, another soldier, or themself. So it's better to let us die than risk an embarrassing event.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the bereaved in Texas and especially those unfortunate, stalwart souls, who now have the grim duty, of taking that dreadful walk to the door, to officially deliver the sad news.

Report from the Telegraph newspaper

Latest report on CTV has this man acting alone.The other two have been released. Also,and I'm sure this doesn't really mean anything,he is supposed to have a blog that goes on about suicide bombings. Nothing to see here folks,move along.

Just on Fox
The shooter is still alive.
He was in surgery and expected to live.

The female officer (not sure if on duty or not) who was the first one to fire on this murdering a-hole has also, thankfully, survived her wounds.

I do not believe this story simply
need more proof and investigation

This story is smell fishy it seems to be the patient of Nidal Malik Hassan who was mentally ill kill everybody this job can not be
job of Malik because he has all background to not be murderer but he deal with mental ill patient around him

he only came from Jordon it does not mean this story is true

Do you have video to proof this story?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

Shooter

2007 photo of Nidal Malik HasanMajor Nidal Malik Hasan, age 39, was born in Virginia to parents who immigrated from Jordan.[12][13] He served as an army psychiatrist, who had transferred to Fort Hood in July from Washington's Walter Reed Medical Center.[1][2][14][15][16] Prior to being transferred he had received a poor performance evaluation.[17] He had special training in shooting.[12]

Hasan graduated in 1997 from Virginia Tech University, where he was a member of ROTC,[18] with a bachelor's degree in biochemistry and in 2003 from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences with a medical degree (MD) in Osteopathy, and later finished his residency as a psychiatrist.[19][13] In 2009, he completed a fellowship in Disaster and Preventive Psychiatry at the Center for Traumatic Stress.[15]

Hasan had come to the attention of Federal authorities at least six months before the attacks because of internet postings he may have made discussing suicide, making threats, and painting suicide bombers in a positive light.[17] However, it has been unclear if he was truly the author of the posts and no official investigation was opened.[17]

Hasan was promoted from Captain to Major in May 2009.[15] Hasan was about to be deployed to Iraq, on November 28. According to Jeff Sadoski, spokesperson of U.S. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, "Hasan was upset about his deployment".[13] The shooter's cousin, Nader Hasan, said that Nidal Hasan turned against the wars after hearing the stories of those who came back from Afghanistan and Iraq.[20]

According to retired Colonel Terry Lee, "He said maybe Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor. At first we thought he meant help the armed forces, but apparently that wasn't the case. Other times he would make comments we shouldn't be in the war in the first place."[18]

Do they have capital punishment in Texas?

Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugged has all the recent news.
This is shocking if true.

The War on America: Muslim Attacker "come to the attention of law enforcement at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats"

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

"A Hadith says: 'A Muslim is the brother of a Muslim; he does not abandon him and he does not give him away.' …The Muslim soldier in the American army must refrain [from participating] in this war, and if he cannot, he must serve in the [logistic] ranks, and if he cannot, he must submit his resignation. If he is forced to [fight] and is among the combating ranks, he is forbidden from killing a Muslim with his weapon; if he kills him in error he must pay reparation. If he kills him intentionally, he has committed the sin of killing a Muslim intentionally." [4]

This is from www.memri.org , Of course,this man ,about to be deployed to the front,may not even be a muslim.We need more info.

new/info: piss off.

Fox News now says the perp is ALIVE and in custody.

Yes, we've got capital punishment in Texas, but this SOB will be tried in a military court.

The comment about Americans needing to tighten up their gun laws is ridiculous, but one thought about that.

If a crazed person wants to do you harm, they will find a way to do it. If someone in Canada wants to get a gun, they will find a way to do that.

In Canada however, the poor victims have no way of defending themselves. I'm sure the Americans could shoot back at the gunman.

I'd rather have a choice to carry a weapon myself than to have to sit around waiting for the law to show up and save my ass. This comment would be an obit.

I think in Canada, the death toll would have been way higher.

Here you go!

Just like I thought,looks like it was a Terrorist Attack.

Goddamn Saracens!

Check out this Youtube Video over at Jihad Watch.

"Fort Hood jihad shooter said "Muslims have to stand up against the aggressor"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/fort-hood-jihad-shooter-said-muslims-have-to-stand-up-against-the-aggressor.html

Ace of Spades writes:

The officer who shot him was thought to be dead but she's alive and out of surgery.

OK Kate, Kathy: which one of you plugged him? :~)

Heh heh, M.Matt... think there's a few of us pondering that, if not that, then that we'd be as heroic as that officer.

An off duty civilian police officer was the first one to be able to shoot that scumbag down, because she was armed.
Nothing but heartache and horror at this unprovoked attack on the innocent for the same sick barbaric reasons, but I do like that a woman took him down and she survived.
My condolences for the fallen.

The Maj. Malik was converted Muslim he was not originally Muslim and only one guy who did not like him interviewed by FOX news

the interview did not like Maj Malik since he was Muslim as he said

'http://ace.mu.nu/

Shot by a female,bloody awesome.Too bad she wasn't eating a bacon sandwich at the time.

Kiss my ass new/info.....................

info - go back to the mountains of Tora Bora and hook up with the goats you so love.

If you don't love our country the way it is, I guarantee you I can raise the money it takes to give you a one-way ticket back to the hell hole you came from. But remember - its a one-way ticket and you can't come back.

If you don't like that idea you had better get your head around the fact that you live in a FREE country filled with people who will roast your sorry ass if you think you can subvert our way of life - you sorry moron.

I would really prefer that our soldiers be allowed to carry weeapons. Duhhh! Sometimes I wonder if our generals are a big bunch of retards.

There are times when I simply can't believe that people can be stupid enough to say some of the things they do. Curious George is the latest case in point.

Suppose an Army Major, a Psychiatrist decides he doesn't want to go overseas. You'd think he'd be qualified to declare himself unfit for duty. He'd know the procedure. Who'd argue with him?

This heinous act was done with full mens rea. Texas has the death penalty, I presume the military does also for acts of treason, which this appears to be.

Ironically, I'd bet many U.S. soldiers are more motivated now than before this happened.

There will be some heads rolling as to why those in the know didn't pick up on the signs this jihadi disclosed over months leading up to this. Political Correctness is still costing lives 8 years after 9/11.

From Breitbart tv.

http://www.breitbart.tv/co-worker-ft-hood-gunman-made-outlandish-comments-condemning-us-foreign-policy/

Just watched the CTV clip where they equated it to a work place shooting.

Just watched the CTV clip where they equated it to a work place shooting.
Posted by: gobi desert

Not surprised, since they decided that all terrorism the world over was Bush's fault with statments of "it's Bush's war on terrorism" usually about some terrorist attack in the middle east.
I've not watched them since. Like cbc, ctv is never picked on our already sparce tv viewing, local or otherwise.

Muslim guy was shot by women sargent again is under question how those 3 shut gon come to station with nobody see and pass it through it and how come a day before they follow Hassan and said he was sear arab dress in seven eleven
may be he dress like arab made so many texas hated him
what was converstaion before those shot up
hassan was not able to shoot more than 100 peple within 3 minitutes

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'DIRT UNDER THE FINGERNAILS'

http://www.thespec.com/Opinions/article/667647

http://www.windsorstar.com/entertainment/Jarvis+outgrown+monarchy/2191531/story.html

http://www.lfpress.com/comment/columnists/christina_blizzard/2009/11/06/11653126-sun.html

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/dirt-under-the-fingernails/article1353367/

When any innocent men or women are dieing with no ground the murderer must get punish by triala nd all evidence

Now if the murderer kill police or army in war is bad

Now if it inside job from American troop corruption if that is the case since Hassan was
US army it does not matter why he kill the job done the corruption done deal
this is worste and shamfull for them

rather than take responsibility of know the fact

you only shoot loudly and almost pie in your pants by wet the chair saying

It was Muslim and let piss of them all
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while you do not see the big corruption you see small and good for bully to shoot harder

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For you OMMG
http://ommag.blogspot.com/
nobody read your blogs they prefer to read
playboy magazine instead

I can give you it is better to see
ask your Queen let us know who kill Diana we need this answer?
why Queen told Diana to divorce and not tell Camilla to leave country and leave Prince charlse instead she know all from begining that her son not able to marry Camilla in order he does not get exile she made plan to put Diana and may be this is one part of story I do not know??

Ask your women who horra to Muslim if they not fight for bikini dress and life style of sleep with too many men then step back from Muslim

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=elizabeth+II+when+she+was+young+met+and+dance+with+Hugh+Hefner+playboy+enterprice&meta=&aq=f&oq=

This American soldier ended up sympathizing with terrorists and calling the terrorist bombers heroes. These statements were either blogged or told to his comrades (fellow officers) and it surprises me that he wasn't dealt with by his own commander. His fellow officers were neglect in not reporting him up the chain of command.
That aside, he is under the jurisdiction of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. He joined the enemy by virtue of turning against his fellow Americans and should be tried under the UCMJ for treason and being a traitor should be stood in front of a firing squad aired on public television and shot after the firing squad has soaked their bullets in pig blood. Well, maybe the pig blood is going a bit far but imagine how future terrorists would feel if they thought that each bullet heading their way had pig blood on it.