"Made in China"...the product warning label of the 21st century.

Didn't one of the guys on Top Gear ride this across VietNam ??

My friend bought a made in China 2500 watt electrical generator. (gen-set.) I worked on engines for 20 years of my life. We could never get it started. They gave him another one. The second one started but the generator didn't work. They gave him a third one, the gas leaked on the generator and it caught fire. He now has a John Deere.

My friend bought a made in China 2500 watt electrical generator. (gen-set.) I worked on engines for 20 years of my life. We could never get it started. They gave him another one. The second one started but the generator didn't work. They gave him a third one, the gas leaked on the generator and it caught fire. He now has a John Deere.

'Sad to say, I don't even eat in Chinese restaurants anymore, especially after it was found that some soya sauce products were made with human hair and pet food was laced with melamine, causing renal failure.

Yup - I'm trading my Harley in on one of those puppies!

But, just remember the phases of "Made in China" - as evidenced by an interview with an Italian fine tailor a while ago.

He said the "Made in China" suits used to be a joke - look at them and they would dehiscse. However, with time, he said that the China and Italian suits were indistinguishable.

In general, "China" doesn't care about intellectual property - they will reverse engineer products, and forget patents etc. And, if structured properly, the west can't outcompete based on price due to labour costs.

And we all know about the labour laws in China.

Hopefully the massive war machine that the ChiComs are building is replete with the same quality control problems.

OMG,I took one of these things from a trio of thieves just the other day. I was under the illusion that they did not challenge me because of my steely resolve and imposing physical presence. Damn,they let me have it because they knew what it really was like to ride.Woe is me and my ego.

I have concluded that the only things made in China that work are the reproductive systems of the Chinese. They are sort of like except that Tribles are cute and fuzzy while the Chinese are little and er ah ... well not very cute.

I have concluded that the only things made in China that work are the reproductive systems of the Chinese.

They are sort of like Tribles except that Tribles are cute and fuzzy while the Chinese are little and er ah ... well not very cute.

I bought my kid a 125cc China bike from GIO Auctions, this past summer. Five hundred clams...taxes, shipping, dropped at my door. The quality would best be described as fair. Considering that previously well-enjoyed Japanese examples cost more than triple what I paid...I'm more than willing to overlook fit and finish issues. So far, it's been a great little pit basher, and for $500 a copy I could buy a few to ensure I have plenty of spare parts and care less when my boy drops the damn thing.

Having said that, I shopped around a fair bit and there seemed to be no shortage of crap out there like the piece in the Ebay advertisement.

His Trike of Death listing is even more hilarious

I started reading every label, a couple of years back. Store managers hate me, because I get vocal when I can't find Canadian made products. Some of the worst offenders are considered Canadian icons.

Canadian Tire has very few Canadian made products. Mark's Work Wearhouse has almost no Canadian made products, and they seem proud of it. Walmart? Are you kidding? Sears imports all their socks from Pakistan. Makes me want to cut off my feet.

"Things made in China are a joke".
I have heard that some fifty or sixty years ago the same thing people said about Japan.
But China has larger population than Japan, has more people stealing more technologies from more countries than it was the case with Japan.
And now nearly all clothes and many other things you buy have a label "made in China." Many are of good quality and nearly none are "made in Canada"
What do you think will happen next?

Lice locket.

Oz - the stuff they keep for themselves, in particular their war machine, is a lot better than what you can buy at Wal-Mart. The Nanchang CJ-6 is a very in-demand warbird, relatively cheap and solid (yes, I'd like one!). That said, I don't want this guy's bike.

China is one of the makers of the H1N1 vaccine think of that bike as they shove the needle in your arm.

Batb, what you said about soy sauce made the bile rise to my throat. My esophagus literally crawled.
Japanese-made toys for the kids- that's the way to go. Even the Chinese get that:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22262800/

Why Canadians buy Chinese crap for their kids still stuns me.

Bernie said "Lice locket."

Bernie, that's absolutely terrible. I'll be using it regularly.

And why Canadians buy China crap to eat stuns me.
This thread is doing my blood pressure wonders that so many are searching for and buying Canadian.
dp at 12:33 You make me laugh!! Feel better soon.

Actually re the Chinese military...
I recall interacting with it.....quantity versus quality....the Vietnamese were very astute.....they scrapped captured Chinese weapons...including running tanks.

0/t, sorry
OMG
check it out...finally Cons take motion to committe for AG to investigate ADSCAM

http://www.stephentaylor.ca/2009/11/motion-on-adscam-to-be-moved/

Osumashi Kinyobe, I've gone from eating Chinese to eating Sushi! 'Love it.

And, OMG, this story gets worse:

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/4292/

Back in January 2004 I posted a short entry about a factory in China that had been caught making soy sauce out of human hair. ... Now more gruesome details have emerged, published in the Internet Journal of Toxicology (link via Boing Boing):

In late 2003, there was an alternatively produced soy sauce named "Hongshuai Soy Sauce" in China. The soy sauce was marketed as “blended using latest bioengineering technology” by a food seasoning manufacturer, suggesting that the soy sauce was not generated in a traditional way using soy and wheat. The Hongshuai Soy Sauce was sold at a relatively low price in Mainland China and became very popular among the public. The people found its taste to be similar to other brands. Because of its low price, many catering services in schools and colleges decided to use this new product.

An investigation led by TV journalists then revealed why the soy sauce was so cheap. It was being manufactured from an amino acid powder (or syrup) bought from a manufacturer in Hubei province:

When asking how the amino acid syrup (or powder) was generated, the manufacturer replied that the powder was generated from human hair. Because the human hair was gathered from salon, barbershop and hospitals around the country, it was unhygienic and mixed with condom, used hospital cottons, used menstrual cycle pad, used syringe, etc. After filtered by the workers, the hair would then cut small for being processed into amino acid syrup. The technicians admitted that they would not consume the human-hair soy sauce because the dirty and unhygienic hair was used to make amino acid syrup. A quality monitoring staff also revealed that though the hair may not be toxic itself, it definitely consisted of bacteria and other micro-organisms.

Lovely. But what the article doesn't mention, but which I believe to be true, is that soy sauce isn't the only food product made out of this cheap hair-made amino acid powder. The stuff is also sold in large quantities to the bakery industry which uses it as a source of L-cysteine to make dough softer and more elastic. Think about that next time you're chewing on a bagel.

[end quote]

Google soy sauce, human hair and read lots of other stories

Truth in MSM Advertising?
...-

"Newfoundland records first H1N1 death Globe and Mail

Newfoundland sees first H1N1-related death Vancouver Sun"

I saw few days ago in most streets in Mississauga Ontario separate road for bicycle road that can be used also by disable small chair they are driving

Now if we allow able normal people use disable wheelchair that can be safer in city than drive bicycle andthat disabled wheelchair can be develop that can have hood to cover body too
Similar like small car electrical drive in city
But less expensive than them
this system disabled wheelchair can be develop and put head in top of that disable chair that their body cover like a box open and close
this device in future is better since that is electrical with one person drive big car that small chair take less space and can go more speed too
-http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=disabled+wheelchair+photo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=1QruSuumKsrUlAfwmcn_BA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQsAQwAA

Now material can be used also must safe enough as well ask bombardier to do help them
Ask people in new innovation of Honda to made this happened
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Chineese products are not able to use well in Canada in bad time weather such as:

Problems with Honda is more than what we imagine
1) some of their model of Honda car is not set used for bad time weather or storm or windy day and electrical part of car can suddenly stop and can cause break not working and cause you car accident such as CRV 2007 need to check by insurance company to get recall them all
2- Customer relation employee of Honda Canada is not good to feel responsible when we call their car is not safe need to change are no listen and play Chinese play with their customer
3) too many theft are like Honda car being question whether or not some bad cop or some organized Russian and Chinese are behind this mafia steal Honda car they take to smaller peace then they ship them and why shipping company allow them to do so to transfer part of Honda to outside country by they firs steal then cut them to smaller peace and sell back to china, why police do not do DNA or car finger print to caught the thief only take small theft and let go big theft to do so and then all west time and headache for people until replace new care by insurance company, when care stolen again insurance must replace it and Honda must give them good car but they do not they giver anything they like from their inventory and play around to change it if that car is not good
4) When police RCMP road who investigate number of dieing of those motorcycle or other car
need to seat with superior judge or local judge for ticket of car accident to see how to made the road safe and why people has ticket then those people who has ticket what cause them got the ticket it was road sign problems or find better solution or some highway is called death highway government fix those road and put sign and flash sign to talk to driver to wake them up or make more coffee shop in road or talk to insurance company to see why so many car accident happened then join all those group to find how to save people how to used motorcycle material and how made them smaller and big car take one road now this way reduce all pressure that each accident some time insurance can share with Honda car or share damage of car accident with other insurance company because they are the built bad mal function car if they are or movement for bad road or bad police not pay attention to road sign or etc...I mean when some one has accident if car has mal function they must get recall or get fix and pay damage to disable or if road has problems blame to government bad road group not all to insurance company to make them bankrupt pay more money to disable here, if car has malfunction and caused accident not only Honda must pay damage but also there is not at fault for driver since when all motor and computer are not working and break is not working even if you hit the back some car that was not your fault

Chinese manufacturing is indeed curious. It almost seems as if they feel that they have succeeded if they produce a product that LOOKS like what it is intended to be. I have kept my favourite imported curiosity on display on my coffee table. It is a set of bolts from a Christmas tree stand I bought at Canadian Tire last year.

They look like ordinary bolts with a triangular bend near the top which allows them to be turned by hand. They are, in fact made mostly of steel. The problem with them is that the manufacturers failed to understand the principle of a screw: that is, that a screw has a single spiral groove that travels in a spiral path around its circumference. Instead, these bolts were created with a neat set of parallel grooves that don't connect. They're the right coarseness and gauge, (I checked), but there is absolutely no way to screw them into a nut.

Somewhere in China, there's a factory that's happily whirring away, churning out thousands of bolts that won't screw into anything; and there are dozens more factories cheerfully buying these bolts and using them in equally perplexing products that only superficially resemble what they are intended to be.

And meanwhile in Canada, scores of tenderly educated MBAs continue to make deals to buy this crap on our behalf because no one could be bothered to check and see if the products actually work.

I think the chinese supply the halal at loblaws

just some "new"" info" I might have come across.

nudge nudge wink wink

I prefer teriyaki made from Japanese or Korean ingredients.
Mashgeta! (Delicious!)

chris Ivey

U can find same said bolts made else were, double flighted threads:-))))

and as the BIKE in the sales add, well I had one of the horse boarder's BF ask if I could get his mini bike to run properly, well I can fix almost any thing mechanical, but with this mini bike I'd met my match. I started to take it apart, and as doing so it was disintigrating upon disassembly, I gingerly reassembled and parked on the shop floor. When the owner came for it I refused any payment and told him never to bring it back:-))))

David at 1232 - great tip - click on "See other items" on the listing for a great read!

My friend who is of Chinese/Vietnamese heritage states to only are poison.

a former tenant picked up one of these new and proceeded to reverse engineer *it*, cannibalizing parts which he put on a likewise cannibalized mountain bike. he then proceeded to ride the one-of-a-kind creation around until the housing for the gear box broke around a bearing.

he moved out and I got $15 for the parts.

Perhaps the bike was made on 'Force you child to work day'

Osumashi Kinyobe, thanks for the tip. I'll try it.

Joe Citizen said: "He now has a John Deere."

Which was made in China. But assembled in America!

I have some Chinese drill bits. They come in two styles: too-hard, and too-soft. The too-hard ones snap like glass rods while drilling into metal. Wear your safety glasses kids! The too-soft ones are more interesting, I had one completely untwist in the middle.

The joke to all this is all the big names have -all- their stuff made in China now. Milwaukee, DeWalt, Delta, Rigid, all this stuff comes off lines in China. And Princess Auto Powerfist crapola comes off the same lines, in many cases using the same castings, plastic parts, bearings etc etc etc.

My feeling is that if I have to buy made-in-China crap, I'm better off getting it from the Princess on "sale" than paying full pop at Home Depot.

BTW, did you guys know there are no router bits made in Canada? None. Some are made in the USA, a few are from Europe, most are made in China.

You can't buy tools made in Canada for any money, for the most part. Who do I go see about that, I wonder? The Liberals? Mmmm, could be.

In conclusion, I would like to add one thing. Anybody who thinks stuff coming from Chicomland these days is the worst crap EVER has never worked on an early '60s British car. [shudder] The only good thing about them was they rusted away so fast they were gone before they got too many people killed.

Buddy won't have to worry about not being accused of raising a buyer's hopes that they're getting a real bargain. On the other hand the price is now 8 times higher than the $7 (AUS) starting bid. Maybe self effacation works effectively for those things that only the mother of a child labourer could love.

Then again - the only thing made in Japan at one time, shortly after the war, was found in the bottom of Cracker Jack boxes (really) and no one would dream of buying anything made there, of course, back then, just about everything was made in the USA.

Phantom - Did you ever work on a Lada? First one I worked on, while rolling down the windows the knob came off in my hand. However the British Leyland marque was not much better, many Brit sportscars wouldn't make it over our mountain passes, as the carburetors cut out.

The main problem in Canada is our general apathy about the lack of Canadian-made products on retailers shelf. Shoppers need to seriously start asking their local retailers for more products made in Canada and actually buy them! Retailers will stock their shelves with whatever sells, so let's start putting our money where our mouths are! Curious about what is still made in this country of ours? Here's a great place to start: www.buycanadianfirst.ca

The Phantom @ 9:40PM. Check out Lee Valley Tools. They have lots made in Canada/USA as well as router bits made in Taiwan. I have used their router bits and have had no problems.

larben, it has never been my misfortune to have to work on a Lada. For this I give thanks. But my old man had a 1962 Envoy. I remember that POS to this day, even though I was but 6 years old. It rusted away to nothing by about 1968, you could see the road through the floorboards. We had to use boards because the metal was gone. y'know. :)

Niall Mor, I do frequent Lee Valley, and I do indeed drool on their showcases from time to time. But, you know the big blue Record vices they sell? Those used to be made by Record of England, in Sheffield. Guess where they get 'em now.

As to router bits, the ones from Taiwan are indeed quite good, and I try to buy things from Taiwan given a choice. But the point is, router bits are not manufactured in Canada any more. At all. Haven't been for quite a few years. Same with most basic tools, from chisels to welders, all kinds of things are not made here except for sometimes little boutique manufacturers. Like Lee Valley, come to think of it.

This is a bad thing. What if for any reason tools from Taiwan become unavailable or just super expensive? We're hosed.

My table saw is a General. Made in Quebec, finest available in the entire world, they ship world wide. Why does this country only have ONE remaining company doing that?

That's a rhetorical question, of course, we know why. Taxes. Regulations. Special deals for special guys. Etc.