Tommy Douglas? I thought Brad Devine was running the show.

Do you actually think that he would have any control over the health care bureaucrats??? Give you head a shake.

Alberta does not have 1,100 clinics spewing H1N1 vacines. There are about 30 that have the vacine - other "flu clinics" (mostly walk in medicine shops) are serving up the regular flu vacines.

But in the "Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!" category you may want to consider:

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21 Oct 2009 ... Canada has ordered 50 million doses from GlaxoSmithKline that are ...
www.cbc.ca/canada/.../10/.../flu-vaccine-h1n1-approval-canada.html
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Statistics Canada: Canada's national statistical agency
22 Oct 2009 ... Population estimate (Note) (July 2009), 33739859 ... ...
www.statcan.gc.ca/start-debut-eng.html

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We shop at Costco for this, or what?

Take your complaints to the Gormley research staff then. They worked on this all day yesterday, calling from province to province for their info.

Hmm, I'm under the impression that some of the larger workplaces (University, etc.) are having clinics the rest of the family can participate in in many cases. Not *exactly* forcing everyone to Prairieland Park to get it, but true there's not much an individual can do unless he/she works for one of these places.

Rudy @11:46; The way I understand this, the reason 50 million doses of vaccine were ordered had to do with the possibility that people would need 2 (two) doses to be properly immunized. This theory has now been changed to one {1) dose. Phoned my Public Health office yesterday to inquire where and when flu shots would be. Both flu shots, seasonal and H1N1 are available now, but if not in high risk groups please wait til next week, Monday-Tuesday or Thursday, I was told. This request seems reasonable. Please do not use the Wildrose Alliance to spread propaganda and fearmongering because then you will NOT get my vote when the time comes.

Do you actually think that he would have any control over the health care bureaucrats?

The buck stops with Brad Devine. But then again,
it could be Obama's fault, or maybe Gormley's.

Their Socialist ways may be accidently good.

FACTS: In spite of dire predictions, after their flu season has passed only 185 people died from swine flu in Australia. According to the World Health Organization, fewer than 5,000 people have died around the globe from this variant of swine flu. In any normal year, influenza causes between 250,000 and 500,000 deaths worldwide.

Somehow seems fitting don'cha think. The government comes up with a non-solution to a government induced panic over a real non-issue.

Glenn Reynolds said it best - "I'll believe it's a crisis when the people who say it's a crisis start acting like it's a crisis."

Hey pillboy....your cranium called...it has space for rent.

No philboy, this mess was clearly left behind by the Bush administration.

Oh. And sorry listening to Rutherford right now. He's talking about how Morontario wants more money from AB/SASK. Can we send them some coated with pig flu virus???

'It is a messy combination of
sequences from bird, human and swine flu virus lineages from North
America and Eurasia. A senior virologist based in Canberra, Australia,
told the press he thought that the virus could have been created in a
laboratory and released by accident [3]. Some analysts even suggest,
without corroborating evidence, that it was made intentionally as a
bioweapon'
The same company marketing the vaccine created the H1N1 virus. The virus is also being hyped up by false media reports of deaths most of which occurred from other strains of the flu and not from the H1N1. Some science fact.

When socialists decide that getting sick and perhaps dying is the proper way to conduct health care business, I am happy so long as it's only they who are sick and dying.

Any conservatives who happen to fall victim to this bureaucratic philosophy should have done more to get rid of it long ago. If you don't think socialism is a life-threatening force ... you need to rethink your civility. It is long overdue to purge these fools from our society. Obama's America is a warning to the rest of us ... as if Cuba and the Soviet union weren't enough.

cough cough ... hack ecchhed achted ... puttooey, hack cough snort ... puke ... ahh.

Great pic 'Kate' and it is fitting.

Don't you know only qualified health care personnel can give something as complicated as a flu shot! For four years I gave my aging cat his insulin shot twice a day - I was trained in 10 minutes at my vet's office. However I did add my own twist by diverting my cat with a small bowl of milk as I gave him the shot - he loved it, every morning and evening he would leap up on the counter looking for his milk treat. Maybe the film is intended to divert us from the shot!!!

is it "socialism" that is profiting from the "600 million" doses of the H1N1 vaccine ordered by the U.S. government alone?
No, it is one company the same company that created the "Swine flu" virus, which is "not transmittable to humans", go figure?
It was intentionally delivered and by same people profiting from the sale of the vaccine, big business.

Nice looking tinfoil hat blanks.

1100 flu clinics in Alberta? There are 5 H1N1 clinics in Calgary with 4 - 6 hour lineups. I know Stelmach hates Calgary but I don't think there are 1095 in the rest of the province and only 5 in Calgary.

They can send my dose(s) back or to Sask. if they really really want it.
Same with their HPV vaccine. Not that I'm a teenage girl but if I had a daughter she wouldn't be getting that vaccine either.
Their profiting from creating diseases whether they're spreading them intentionally or not.
Besides only the elderly, very young and immune deficient would ever die from the flu including H1N1.
They to be confusing these flu's with the plague, "The Black Death", a bacterium not a virus.

some more "tinfoil", a virus is a solvent and not a bacteria.

They were lining up at 6:00AM at a clinic in a bedroom community of Edmonton. It's just before noon and people aren't bothering to line up as the wait time is expected to be as much as 8 hours.

Y2K anyone?

Sure Blanks, it's just like RCGZ said and I'll paraphrase: We are so fortunate to have incompetent socialists in many levels of our healthcare system because their inefficiency may have prevented us from getting the vaccine we don't need! True to form though, we'll pay full pop for it anyways, whether we need it or not and whether it’s on time or not.

C’mon blanks, this thread isn't about conspiracies and the origin of H1N1.
What it’s about is how ineffective our public delivery of the shots is compared to the private delivery in Alberta; and, the moronic and self-loathing philosophy that spawned these decisions in the first place; regardless of how the flu got here!

Blanks

Dude, the issue is you're off topic. If you can’t accept the premise that the shots are necessary for this discussion, then why say anything? Back under the bridge for you:)

well said Indiana, all I know is that I have two immune deficiency's Crohn's and HPV and I won't be getting their H1N1 vaccine unless they break into my house and stab with their needle.
Only people needing a flu vaccine are the very young, elderly and those in my condition.
But this disease is being hyped by government and media into more than it really is because most of the few deaths reported weren't even caused by the H1N1 flu they were caused by other strains of the flu and not the H1N1.
people need to Google more I guess?
I check these things out because I'm at a greater risk than average.

Indiana 1:42. Nice to see a good perspective.

One fellow phoned in to Gormley and said he saw H1N1 vaccinations being done in a number of big tents set up on a school yard three weeks ago in Kentucky (a state in the evil empire to the south).

It is probably better to have a few dead people that died while waiting than upset the unions and socialist bureaucrats.

The sun sets in the West.

They're obviously leaving Saquatchewan for Alberta.

Ditto on the scarcity of H1N1 outlets in AB.

For those above downplaying the risk of H1n1, please take the time to read the history of it in wiki. Itis not the current form of the virus that is of concern but the possibility that what happened in 1919 could happen again- and what happened then was when the second wave hit in the fall it mutated to a far far more deadly form where the victims immunity response went haywire and killed them - not the virus itself. Because of this difference, unlike almost all other flus the risk group is actually the healthiest people - people btwn the ages of 15 and 40 who have the most powerful immune systems. Thankfully we have not seen such a mutant .
Yet.

run lemmings run,
Walt Disney would be proud of you.
Just say NO to the H1N1 vaccine, do your fury selves a favour.

'One thing is certain, human deaths mean profits for pharmaceutical corporations: Novavax, maker of viral vaccines, had its stock escalate 75 percent to $1.42 per share on the first announcement of the swine flu outbreak in Mexico.'
Curious this is the same company I saw being mentioned as the "creator" of the swine flu virus?
This virus is "not transmittable to humans by natural means", like the "bird flu".
run for your shots lemmings or is that a "herd of swine" I see running for the Alberta border?

The public clinic date at Prairieland was pushed back to Nov 16 this morning from Nov 12 as advertised yesterday, when it was November 9 earlier this week. CBC Radio reported this morning that Sask is only getting 50,000 doses next week instead of the 100,000 we should be getting. And yes, there's at least one private company arranging for workplace clinics but they are unable to set dates as they don't know when they'll have vaccine.

I wonder who's getting those 50,000 doses?

Don't keep on about Tommy Douglas. Right winger, Devine lover Brad Wall is running the show now, the buck stops with him.

In Ab. you will be able to get the vaccine at drugstores injected by a pharmacist. I should get one but I won't. I stay a lot healthier when I stay out of Dr.'s offices. The only reason I can think of that you need a professional to give it is if you have an egg allergy and the usual PH nurse isn't much use if you react anyway. The only reason not to get both at the same time is they want to aggravate you twice to justfy their job. Last province to start the program...slowest to perform to minimal standards. Wonder if Lingensmeller went to Calgary for a shot?
For the socialists, why do you think union healthcare is good for humans? Pets have access to better healthcare. I mean its good enough for you but I have standards.

'In 1976, a novel swine influenza A (H1N1) caused severe respiratory illness in 13 soldiers with 1 death at Fort Dix, New Jersey. The virus was detected only from January 19 to February 9 and did not spread beyond Fort Dix.[7]' -Wiki

Curious how this H1N1 flu outbreak occurred isn't it?

13 soldiers huh? Didn't spread beyond Fort Dix?

I know I'm just a tin hat but?

blanks - Gardasil for HPV is a good thing and will save lives.

I had both regular flu and H1N1 - the latter took a bit of wind out of my sails for 18 hours, but that's it.

Sorry, but I view those that view the "pharmaceutical industry making profit from death" in the same light as 9/11 truthers.

Seems that people are more skeptical than usual about this major flu - could it be all the end-of-the-world scams the world has seen lately ? (Some even have past Presidents as leader)

Like, how many times can the world end ?

T, it is the Marxists that have been in power in Saskatchewan almost continually for over sixty years that have allowed the unions to control the health system here. A few years of Grant Devine and Brad Wall is not enough to dismantle the inbred corruption.

"Gardasil for HPV" is a scam and doesn't work and the U.S. FDA even said so before making it legal to use by the donkeys that pull them around by their little monkey tale.
That's right they're called "lobbyists" and they spend millions and millions of dollars to get the government's to do what they want done not what "the people" want or what's good for them.

The H1N1 vaccine may work but that's probably because it was created by the same company that created the virus in the first place, Novavax.

I'm keeping things in perspective. Always a good thing.

In 1918 my English grandmother, who would weigh abt 90 lbs I think, had bronchial/asthma, had a 45 yr old husband overseas, also two sons, and was raising two daughters, didn't get the flu -
first or second wave.

In 1918 my Canadian grandmother's nephew, a healthy 13 yr old, felt sick while biking home from a country school and died in less than 24 hrs.

Worrying about it isn't going to help.
This is one of those cases where the thing to fear is fear.

gellen...I thnik you may be looking for this....fear..False Emotions Appearing Real.

This may be a little off-topic, but what happened to five feet of fury - the site seems to have been clobbered.

"The outbreak is most remembered for the mass immunization that it prompted in the United States. The strain itself killed one person and hospitalized 13. However, side-effects from the vaccine caused hundreds of deaths." wiki

"just get your shotS"

Chris Ivey
I think this is likely the problem,
five feet of fury.(when I say 'gay,' i just mean it like 'retarded'.)and me, Kathy Shaidle of FiveFeetOfFury.com. Richard Warman used to work for the notorious Human Rights Commission, which runs the "kangaroo ...
beginning of her second most googled post

that's probably just my tinfoil talk'n though

-http://www.sodahead.com/world-news/uk-guilty-until-proved-not-a-pedophileparents-being-banned-from-watching-their-children-in/news-36595/

comments by Muslim

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Fix government from top to bottom or simultaneously if you run out of time

fix system and law and then adult in order to protect children

-http://www.bloggingtories.ca/

More than 300 conservative blogs still could not solve the world problmes or even Canada problems
while only 30 out of 300 blogs are active to find a way to solve Canadian problmes

-http://www.bloggingtories.ca/spy.php

Ask all public companies to run by government as of today and government legal department not their lawyers.
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Dad Canada:
-http://cjunk.blogspot.com/2009/10/bad-canada.html

I just listened to CKNW Vancouver where they were talking to Mike Falcon, the Health minister who says that Saskatchewan is going to use it's health care bucks to send knee and hip jobs to BC.

With the money from Saskatchewan he hopes to be able to fund more of the same kinds of surgeries for BC residents.

So Sask has money but no capacity and BC has capacity and no money .... All GOVERNMENT ALL THE TIME .... the only place the governments never fail is to amuse the cynical among us ... I think that is now the majority.

600 million doses for the US, 50 Million for Canada
Thats good coinage for GlaxoSmithKline, nice plum government contacts too,the best kind.

Anyone keeping an eye on these jokers?

I'm with blanks on this one, not exactly a conspiracy,just agressive business on the part of vaccine makers, lefties should be all over this one over that, once again they are pawns.

Well, bob, maybe Obama can nationalize those companies too - we'll see where we end up then ;-)

the Marxists that have been in power in Saskatchewan
almost continually for over sixty years that have allowed the unions
to control the health system here. A few years of Grant Devine and Brad Wall
is not enough to dismantle the inbred corruption.

The NDP have held power for 60% of the time
since medicare was established in '62.
But this always blaming someone else,
never taking responsibility, that must be
some kind of John Galt thing, right?

SOL TDooggy Report: TDooggy is worjing real hard for you with snakes, too. Dosey-do.
...-

"Flu clinic closes for the day

If you are thinking of getting an H1N1 shot in Brockville, wait until tomorrow.

Staff at the Leeds, Grenville and Lanark District Health Unit closed the vaccination clinic at the Memorial Centre to new admissions at 2:25 p.m. today, having reached the limit of its dosage for the day.

"They can go back again tomorrow. I suggest a little early," said health unit spokesman Susan Healey.

While activity continued at the clinic after the closure, it was only for people who got in while there was enough vaccine left, she noted.

The long lineup snaked its way around the Memorial Centre parking lot as area residents eagerly awaited their shot, some arriving hours before the clinic opened at 11 a.m."
http://recorder.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2152868

Liberal Fry'Narcissist.

“HEDY’S SWINE FLU PRIORITIES:
MPs FIRST, WOMEN/KIDS LATER(sic)

Using Lib MP’s idiotic logic, shouldn’t Wal-Mart greeters be first ?” (Bourque)
…-

“H1N1 vaccination priority

Hedy Fry believes that there should be a special clinic on Parliament Hill to vaccinate Members of Parliament and staff. Meanwhile, most people in Ottawa will have wait as the first two weeks of vaccinations are rationed for those of us that need it now such as those with respiratory conditions, young children and pregnant women, among others with special needs.

Fry argues that parliamentarians are a special case as they “shake hands, I don’t know how many times a day with people”. Do you agree with her?”

“http://www.stephentaylor.ca/2009/10/h1n1-vaccination-priority/

Pillboy...your empty cranium called again.Space still for rent. NDP=Marxism..And maz2....does Hedy have a plan of how we can vaccinate people through the burning crosses??

Philboy we lost a lot of good doctors in'62. They were replaced by Brits mostly. In Britain they don't even let them touch patients until they are well on their way to graduation. PH officials have tended to be African or Brits and we all know how well those systems work don't we? Brad Wall is sending patients out of province for operations. The NDP actually let the diagnostic instruments run a little longer then 7 hours to reduce waiting times but it took years, political pressure and an upcoming election to get that done. The reason? The techs leave the province ..so they trained 7 per year. Montana has diagnostics in semis and tour the state. They have more on trucks than we have in the province. I always felt we should just rent the damn things and do the province. Then again the MRI for the Vet College is the best in the province.

The rats* have surfaced*.
…-

“Flu vaccine delay has cost lives: Liberals

OTTAWA — The Liberals are taking the Harper government to task over its handling of the swine-flu vaccine, saying delays have cost lives.

Liberal MP Bob Rae….”

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5j73phyhuO0ZrtZ2VkSQKzVpx59dA

*”Albert Camus the plague

Camus set The Plague in the Algerian city of Oran. In April the inhabitants begin to notice more and more dead and dying rats. Panic spreads throughout the”
http://www.camus-society.com/the-plague-albert-camus.htm

Maybe CCF stands for

Could Contract Flu

(and not Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, man, what were they thinkin?)

Gord Tulk, to date we have not seen the mutation which could turn this from an annoyance into a catastrophe. But if it mutates then the vaccine may very well be rendered useless.

Meanwhile in Victoria, two clinics. This seems rather silly if there is a real emergency which the vaccine can prevent. Schools, community centers...I mean this is surely not that hard.

Justhinkin - They are vaccinating people through the burning crosses and at the red cross, as we speak. But only in Prince George I think. Maybe in Pouce Coupe too.

Sources ask, what's a pot wave epidemic for? The answers from "Top Doctor" $ "top cop", aka the Experts.
...-

"Next Wave of H1N1: Top Doctor

Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer warns the H1N1 flu virus is surging across Canada.
Dr. David Butler-Jones said Wednesday there is “increasing activity” in Ontario and Quebec, with both provinces catching up to the hard-hit western provinces.
Butler-Jones adds “we’re definitely in the next wave now.”
http://www.cfra.com/?cat=3&nid=68976

"Pot an Epidemic: Fantino

Ontario’s top cop suggests illegal marijuana cultivation has reached epidemic proportions in Ontario.
Ontario Provincial Police Commissioner Julian Fantino adds the United States has branded Canada a “source country” for pot."
http://www.cfra.com/?cat=3&nid=68970

First, Kate, as stated above, there are nowhere near 1,000 Swine Flu clinics in Alberta.

My guess is that politicians across the country accepted assurances from the bureaucrats that the immunization regimes to be rolled out would work just fine.

Alberta politicians seem to have moved pretty fast in reaction to public anger. On Monday the Government was pretty dismissive of complaints in the legislature ("can't expect to get the first shot on the first day"). By Tuesday the Health Minister was apologizing to Albertans for the problems in the immunization system. By Wednesday, a 5th clinic was open in Calgary (up from 4). Only the Swine Flu vaccination is being given at those clincs now. More staff was added to every clinic in Calgary. A local radio report this afternoon stated that 30,000 doses were administered in Calgary on Wednesday, double Monday's and Tuesday's numbers.

I'm actually very surprised at the speed of the changes that have been made. Nothing to do with that little fringe party to their right I suppose.

And, Kate, they can't use that graphic. It includes a "traditional" family with three children. Wrong imagery, heh,heh.

phillboy, our family had enough of your socialist crap in the old country. Try to peddle your garbage to my executed relatives.

That CCF image is soooo out of touch with modern times. Good little socialists nowadays know they aren't supposed to burden the planet and the state with three children!

Unless they are fruit-fly experts, of course. Then all bets are off.

I went by one in Winnipeg thought it was a new movie being released in Grant Park mall,

Just a line up for the shot. Hundreds crammed together for undoubtedly hours on end.

I bet they don't tell at the end of the day how few died who were immunized vs those who were not.

Isn't that the same graphic that you see in the JW's Watchtower?

"The long lineup snaked its way around the Memorial Centre parking lot as area residents eagerly awaited their shot, some arriving hours before the clinic opened at 11 a.m."

Sadly no one remembers the crowd manipulation used in the "Beatles event" (a thousand squirting pubescent females following a meme and being put on TV day after day). It's worked in the past, it'll work again. Especially if there are cute, furry animals threatened.

Reality and approval is now defined as how many people scream in an audience and "focus groups".

It all goes back to the concept of laugh tracks and manipulation.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2218/why-do-sitcoms-have-laugh-tracks

I was listening to Gormley while on the road today. What a crock this is. Just who are the most vulnerable going to get the flu from, anyway. If they don't do massive inoculations right from the get-go who's to say that the vulnerable folks won't already be infected by some generally healthy person who has it right now and is more likely to come through it just fine.

Jay currie, since this flu is no more dangerous than any other flu the need for a vaccination is really limited to those most at risk.
I've had the flu several times over my life but never was I in danger of dieing from it, though I may be now due to other health risks I have. This flu is actually infecting fewer people than other flu's and is no more dangerous.
The real danger is all the hype going on and how our governments are just falling for this absolute BS. The vaccine won't prevent any mutation if anything it may be the cause of a mutation into a much worse strain like the "Spanish flu".
run for lives the flu is falling

your lives, sorry need to use that Preview button.

my doctor gets his piggyflu vaccines in next week. maybe they are counting all those other outlets.

anyway, the point is , in the cradle of socialist medicine Sask. , there aint no vaccine while the rest of the country is going ahead. Considering first nations are supposed to be a priority and 20% of Saskatchewan claims that link this should be considered strange.

This isn't 1918 any more either people. I mean really. Long time smokers, AIDS patients, senile citizens and probably myself are likely the only one's really needing a flu "vaccine".
The rest of you will just be sick for a few days.
According to Wiki the WHO is reporting about a one percent death rate for those infected by this new flu. I've heard the odds of death from the vaccine are that high and chances of complications including neurological damage are even higher than that.
So common says do not get the vaccine even if that means risking Chiken Little's greatest fears.
A mutant.
A mutant of a "mongrel" which this strain has been called by a real expert.
because it has been "mongrelised".
cuzz somebody created it that way and is not a natural occurring virus. more science fact.

A little sidebar. But Saskatchewan is about to lose one of only two Leukkemia specialist. Apparently going back to Germany. Claims he has never seen a worst run health care system. Can't understand why there is no interns or residents to take abit of the load off of him. Plus his wife can't come over no work for what she does. She is a doctor as well. So in Jan. there will be ONE doctor for all of Saskatchewan. Having a family member who is getting ready for a stem cell transplant.....in SEATLE cause no where to do it in Canada and about to lose her doctor....its a little stressful!!!!!!!

I should add Long Live: Tommy Douglas.

whoever he is?

about to lose one of only two Leukkemia specialist,

this country is going to hell in a hand basket but I thought "Steve" was going to set us straight?

Guess all those corporate tax cuts and bailouts just aren't enough.

madmaxxx, don't you just love the Cuban, North Korean style health care.

Maybe if "Steve" had a majority and also didn't have to listen to the "progressive" faction too much, we might actually get some European style health care.

Maybe when Canada is number 49 or number 77, people might wake up.

Oh, I forgot, just throw more money at the unions. That will fix it.

In Manitoba it is suppose to be first priority people that are suppose to be receiving the vaccine. The problems with the line ups and delays in time come from people that are nor first priority trying to get it. I have heard of a lot of seniors, generally third priority, getting the shot. It is my understanding that today they are suppose to start more vigorous prescreening. As for comparing this to the pandemic in 1917, most of the deaths then were caused by secondary pneumonia. Now we have the pneumonia shot and a very important invention called antibiotics. Secondly, if the flu virus mutates in a second wave, this vaccine will probably be useless because the virus will be different and therefore so will the antibodies.

"my doctor gets his piggyflu vaccines in next week"
we'll all be dead by then anyway so what does it matter?

How do I spell kook? B L A N K S. Kook.

Go to blanks blog. Hope he doesn't mind me inserting this into the equation.

October 28, 2009
Dear member of parliament,
H1N1 virus is a hoax made to sell the vaccines.
[...]
The swine flu was created in a laboratory and was intentionally transmitted to humans. By the same company now marketing the H1N1 vaccine in this country and abroad.
Wondering where the "main stream media" is on this news story?
Seems like something some newshound would be reporting about it is so obvious. They seem more interested in hyping this as some kind of "a pandemic". HPV is a real pandemic. AIDS virus was also man made and unlike "global warming".

I'm diabetic, and I recently had to start using insulin injections instead of pills. I was quite .. well, scared! .. before they brought in my kit. I was astounded at how small the needle was, and how relatively painless the injection was. I now do it four times a day, and it's nothing.

I can't understand why this vaccine isn't doled out in one use syringes with an alcohol wipe. Open the wipe, clean the site, inject, wipe again .. bingo, you're done. Doesn't need a pharmacist, nurse, or doctor. 2 million diabetics can't be wrong!

you should try clicking on the title post link while your there.
My "equation" adds up, yours is without a constant and seems quite variable.
This flu is no worse than any other, don't believe me go to wiki and look up the infection and death rates for 2009 H1N1?
There's nothing out of the usual with this flu in fact it is even less aggressive than previous years.

tin foil come with the package

Expect to hear Gormely backtrack on Monday as word spreads that all provinces adjust their vaccination programs to match Saskatchewan's. Which had it right in the first place.

Kevin B said: I can't understand why this vaccine isn't doled out in one use syringes with an alcohol wipe. Open the wipe, clean the site, inject, wipe again .. bingo, you're done. Doesn't need a pharmacist, nurse, or doctor. 2 million diabetics can't be wrong!

Because vaccines (live or dead) cannot be administered by just anyone.

Kevin B said: I can't understand why this vaccine isn't doled out in one use syringes with an alcohol wipe. Open the wipe, clean the site, inject, wipe again .. bingo, you're done. Doesn't need a pharmacist, nurse, or doctor. 2 million diabetics can't be wrong!

Because vaccines (live or dead) cannot be administered by just anyone.

But also:
The H1N1 vaccine is does not have the mixed with adjunct and the health care practitioner has to mix the vaccine by making two draws immediately prior to injecting it.

Kevin B said: I can't understand why this vaccine isn't doled out in one use syringes with an alcohol wipe. Open the wipe, clean the site, inject, wipe again .. bingo, you're done. Doesn't need a pharmacist, nurse, or doctor. 2 million diabetics can't be wrong!

Because vaccines (live or dead) cannot be administered by just anyone.

But also:
The H1N1 vaccine is does not have the mixed with adjunct and the health care practitioner has to mix the vaccine by making two draws immediately prior to injecting it.

KevinB
Hey congrats on adjusting to insulin use and managing your diabetes. that's a big step and I hugely admire diabetics for what they do in self-management (I'm a medical lab tech).
This vaccine is injected intra-muscular, which is a little different than injecting insulin. good thought, though!
As for the conspiracy theorist on board: best laugh of the day, right next to Bush and 9/11. Oh, and this influenza IS a little different, in that it tends to be very serious in young adults and children.
Wendy

wendy
"...in that it tends to be very serious in young adults and children"

that's interesting.

isn't that what sets the spanish flu apart from other's.
It was worse on those with stronger immunities?

Also wondering why there are no reported cases of any swine having this "swine" flu? Apparently that is unheard of before.

Lol, you spoke a little too soon, Kate. Turns out Alberta has completely dropped the ball
(From Maclean's):

No province has done a poorer job of communicating and organizing its H1N1 vaccination clinics than Alberta, which stopped administering doses over the weekend and still hasn’t put a firm date on when clinics will reopen. First, Premier Ed Stelmach and Health Minister Ron Liepert delivered competing, contradictory messages on who should queue for the vaccine. Then, Albertans followed the premier’s directive and showed up in droves to get their shots. But now, Alberta Liberal leader David Swann (who is a doctor) is calling for Liepert’s resignation and Dr. Andre Corriveau, Alberta’s chief medical officer of health, insists he made all the calls. Says Liepert of Swann: “He is obviously challenging the credibility of our chief medical officers of health, and [...] I find that a little offensive.”