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October 29, 2009

Famous Tourism Slogans

"Thailand. Happiness on Earth."

"Ireland. The Island of Memories..."

"Switzerland. The Undiscovered Country."

Posted by Kate at October 29, 2009 10:33 AM
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While on the surface assisted suicide may seem unethical, I challenge all readers to look at the individual cases they accept, and how your personal experience would differ, at all.

In Canada, many of these people would simply be moved to a hospital where a doctor would make the decision to mark "DNR" (do not resuscitate) on their chart and simply wait for the inevitable.

http://www.newser.com/story/45007/uk-tv-broadcasts-an-assisted-suicide.html

Posted by: Cruel World at October 29, 2009 10:55 AM

I don't see anything unethical about assisted suicide. Let people die with dignity. Keep Jesus or whatever your religious dogma is out of my life.

Posted by: Tim at October 29, 2009 11:09 AM

Try reading the link.

Posted by: Kate at October 29, 2009 11:10 AM

Since I'm too lazy to register on that site, I'm answering a hypothetical question in the comments here:

"This is very good news indeed. We have to remember that when British doctors were balloted on the ethics of euthanasia recently, the majority voted against the legelization of suicide. What does this tell us?"

That doctors make more money taking care of terminally ill patients than killing them.

Posted by: K Stricker at October 29, 2009 11:17 AM

Logan's run isn't too far away now.

Posted by: john brooks at October 29, 2009 11:38 AM

OK, for the lazy then -


These guidelines, said the minister, appeal to common sense. And even in the most controversial clinic, Dignitas, these rules are already broadly adhered to. But critics have accused Dignitas of widening its criteria. Some patients are not terminally ill and at least a few would-be suicides are suffering from clinical depression.

The plan is thus to slow down the process and make it a more considered, and carefully policed, decision.

“It won’t be possible in future for someone to cross the border and commit suicide a few days later with the help of an organisation,” Ms Widmer-Schlumpf said. She did not stipulate how long the waiting period should last because that would be decided on each case individually. But the assisted suicide clinics are financially dependent on large numbers of patients passing relatively quickly through the system. So far Dignitas has benefited from the liberal rules in the canton of Zürich.

Posted by: Kate at October 29, 2009 11:43 AM

I thought that was Denmark...

Posted by: K Stricker at October 29, 2009 1:08 PM

'O brave new world '

Posted by: john begley at October 29, 2009 1:10 PM

Canada the greatest country in the world!!

Where we have the Universal death care system. No private medical insurance allowed.

Freedom of speech censored by 14 HRCs including the CHRC run by feminazi Lynch put there by an alledged conservative PM who is too cowardly to fire her while she hires nazi sympathizers and crooked ex cops.

Posted by: Pissedoff at October 29, 2009 2:00 PM

My Living Will states if two Dr.s say I am terminal they can 'treat for pain'. Morphine hotshot..stop breathing, DNR.

Posted by: Speedy at October 29, 2009 3:17 PM

aha!

thought it rang a bell !

'that undiscovered country from whose bourn no traveller e'er returns.."

Posted by: john begley at October 29, 2009 3:28 PM

"I don't see anything unethical about assisted suicide."

Even though the term "assisted suicide" is itself weasel-wording of the highest order?

If someone gets help to kill himself or herself, it's not really suicide, is it?

And don't get me started about a world in which the Hippocratic Oath can be conveniently tossed aside by the medical profession ("I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked").

Once they start putting people down, doctors just become high-priced vets.

Posted by: JJM at October 29, 2009 5:25 PM

Good point,JJM,but what I want to know is,who gets the airmiles???
And yes.That was a rhetorical question thrown at the idiot socialists.

Posted by: Justthinkin at October 29, 2009 6:34 PM

Saskatchewan -- accelerating northerly winds for an entire continent to savour

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at October 29, 2009 6:37 PM

B.C. -- the trip of a lifetime

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at October 29, 2009 6:38 PM

D Stricker Is it just possible that the doctors are opposed to assisted suicide because they think it is ethically and morally wrong to partake of such a gruesome business. Not every doctor is part of an international plot to get our money.

Posted by: larben at October 29, 2009 7:46 PM

From the story: “By cutting off assisted suicide for chronically or psychologically ill people who are capable of informed choice the Government will promote lonely suicides on train tracks,” he [Ludwig Minelli, the founder of Dignitas] said.

Don't ban assisted suicide, if you do people will kill themselves!

Posted by: DJM at October 29, 2009 7:50 PM

"Switzerland - vertically unchallenged. Hey, it's better than being dull and also flat".

Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at October 29, 2009 7:53 PM

Most here who express an opinion on "assisted suicide" have never had to do triage.......
And I sincerely do not wish that trial on them....inocence is bliss and lacks burdan.
For those who lack to patience to read---rent the movie "Pearl Harbour"....

Posted by: sasquatch at October 29, 2009 8:52 PM

"If someone gets help to kill himself or herself, it's not really suicide, is it?"

Yeah! And if I have someone helping me with the rigging on my sailboat, then I'm not really sailing, am I? And all those pilots that have copilots? That's right - they're not really flying!

Anyway, personally I'm a big fan of the street-corner suicide booths from Futurama. Pop in your $1.50, and off you go! Why burden the medical system when there are much more efficient methods.

Posted by: Alex at October 29, 2009 10:08 PM

And if I have someone helping me with the rigging on my sailboat, then I'm not really sailing, am I?

Not by yourself, which is what suicide means. helloooo

Posted by: ol hoss at October 30, 2009 9:58 AM

Re: "...Not every doctor is part of an international plot to get our money."

I didn't suggest that. I was simply expressing my contempt for a particular rhetorical question which could be reasonably answered not in the way the asker assumes. For every doctor who genuinely entered the field because of compassion for other people there's at least one or two who went over the "how to make a buttload of money for the mostly risk-averse" shortlist (i.e. doctor, lawyer) when deciding what to do after high school and settled on doctor.

Posted by: K Stricker at October 30, 2009 12:49 PM

Additional commentary:

And those doctors become the useless tools who work in mediclinics and ask you to come in for an appointment you don't need (so they get paid more) in order to give you a referral they don't actually intend to give you (because our health care is rationed and they get in trouble for giving too many, but that's no reason for them not to ask you to sit in a waiting room during a H1N1 pandemic, more money for THEM remember. And yes this actually did happen to me.)

Posted by: K Stricker at October 30, 2009 12:53 PM
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