But surely none of these types of shenanigans will occur when the U.N. becomes the sole (unelected, unaccountable) arbiter and manager of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of "Climate Change" wealth redistribution from the West to the Rest.

/end_sarcasm

Don't wait folks. Write your M.P, write Prime Minister Harper (for my compatriot Canucks). Tell them to put the kibosh on any ideas of signing onto the Mo Strong accord in Copenhagen.

Thar's gold in them thar hills! Make no mistake. For every tree hugging wide eyed innocent out there, you will uncover at least one schemer trying to make a buck out of the deal. Just follow the money trail.

Peanuts compared to AG. They sacrificed a limb to save the body.

I have to admit, reading the guy's accomplishments, that I didn't know where this story was going. And then to read that he's a felon! A shocking denouement if ever I read one.

That's just how the Roman Empire began its long decline: Corruption, first by the politicians followed closely by the scientists. ;-)

6 months ago, US billionaire Pickens put his massive wind farm project on hold until some Government authority would go partners. I believe Californika was to be where the multi acre disaster was going to be. Pickens even mentioned Canada as potential. Nothing since. No takers anywhere.

Rich private entrepreneurs will invest in crap, as long as there is a willing Government (Taxpayers) to be sucked in. As more and more voters seem to be getting some of their sanity back; the number one human folly of our times seems to be unravelling. Yes, the WWF, Greenpeace and corrupt fools like Gordon Brown are intensifying their scare tactics. They are loosing though.

Next, they will try with "we are running out of fresh water". It's already started. The funniest thing though, is that part of a solar minimum, which we are currently in and might be in for years if not decades; Solar minimum cools the planet in a large part by creating more cloud formation and precipitation. If lakes and waterways rise like they were pre 1980's, it's going to be tough for the snakes to sell their new deceit.

The only thing the snakes might try (again) is "Ice age" which could mean: "Let's explore for more oil and gas"...How about turning coal into fuel like the Nazis did during WWII"...Too funny if it happens.

Obama stalling on giving targets and commitments to Copenhagen is the best proof that, while much of his left wing moonbat supporters still want him to "go green" like the failed European experiment, the bigger majority Americans do not want it.
Actually, if Barry was really smart he would do a Sarah Palin now and open the gates for conventional exploitation of energy. Creating long lasting and well paying jobs. If he did this soon enough he could gain enough rating to possibly win a second term.
I won't hold my breath though.

Thank you Mr. Sun and your perfect timing to cycle back into a solar minimum period...At this time I don't care if I pay a bit more for food and use more energy to keep warm.
The extra cost of today are savings for tomorrow.

Terry,

I hope you are right that some influential folks out there are starting to recover their senses. If not, it will be very difficult, if it is even possible at all, to reverse the damage that the Strongites will do to our economy and democracy at Copenhagen in December.

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.” - Charles McKay, 1841

There's a time to think, and a time to act.
And this, gentlemen, is no time to think.
~John Candy as Boomer in "Canadian Bacon" a Michael Moore film

Just a Comment:
I find it odd that Canada does not have/or enforce conflict of interest Laws in the Environmental industry.

How does the Pembina Institute (Manitoba) avoid conflict of interest.. The Oil Industry is thier largest customer ....and they advise the Feds on those same regulations.. It’s like printing your own money

Ditto for the fruit fly....

Creating Imaginary problems and providing expensive solutions is a conflict.

A law prohibiting self enrichment practices would separate fact from fiction..

Philip:

If we were to ban those who create imaginary problems and provide expensive solutions, we would have to outlaw statist solutions ie government programs.

Sounds about right.

Help . .

Kate, with permission, I need a little help. I am having a face-to-face discussion with a "friend" about the amount of money being spent by sides in the enviro advertising wars. My buddy is convinced, due to some new book by the guy behind the "desmogblog" that Big Oil has bought all the media off and we get only one side of the story.

Somewhere in the archives of SDA blog readers is a story about how much Gore & the rest of the enviro industry spends on advertising vs the Oil industry.

Anyone have a link or source ?

thnx in advance

The sad thing is, he sacrificed his career and reputation for a measly $50K. He's done like toast.

Fred
I am having a face-to-face discussion with a "friend" about the amount of money being spent by sides in the enviro advertising wars. My buddy is convinced, due to some new book by the guy behind the "desmogblog" that Big Oil has bought all the media off and we get only one side of the story.****

That is the last refuge of AGW scoundrels....sort of like OBAMABOTs yelling racism....
It's extremely difficult to calculate that given the US MSM (except FOX) and Canadian MSM being AGW full time all the time.

Gore Report: Mao Stlong's New World Order.

Memo to "anti-social".

Lizard MayRed-Green's Mein Kampf/Communist Manifesto/Liberal Jeancula Chretien's Red Book in one country.

Dissenters will be shipped off to TOGULAG.
...-

"Revealed: the UK government strategy for personal carbon rations

Preface. This is a factual account of the highly politicised concept of catastrophic man made climate change.

The views quoted above are supported in principle by the UK govt but said to be ahead of their time.

However, the means to achieve them are now being quietly introduced into main stream thinking through the systematic use of a political agenda that uses the alarming notion of catastrophic man made climate change as the means to force through a measure of social engineering unequalled in the UK in modern times."

"It was shown at peak time on one of the mainstream British TV stations, with the message that it is unacceptable, indeed irresponsible, to be a climate sceptic, as there will be catastrophic consequences for your grandchildren if you don’t get on board. This chimes with the Governments declaration that it is also ‘anti social’ to oppose wind farms."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/20/revealed-the-uk-government-strategy-for-personal-carbon-rations/#more-11896

not the only NASA guy we should be watching http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2009/10/19/11455476-ap.html

DaninVan: "The sad thing is, he sacrificed his career and reputation for a measly $50K."

Well ... it was a measly $190k over 3 years. I'm betting he actually wrote the program he bought from his wife - any takers?

You can help out by buying something from his wife:

http://www.earth-today.net/Site/Illustration.html

It's a shame that accomplished people turn out to be greedy.

(tsk-tsk)

Ilike the Ice Age meme .... plenty of stocks in hydrocarbon.

As for Dr. Mark Schoeberl ... what surprise there?

I'd like to see Hansen raked over the coals too.

Fred I am having a face-to-face discussion with a "friend" about the amount of money being spent by sides in the enviro advertising wars. My buddy is convinced, due to some new book by the guy behind the "desmogblog" that Big Oil has bought all the media off and we get only one side of the story.

The counter to that one is easy. First, the facts are the opposite - money spent promoting global warming research dwarfs that spent countering it (some time google searching should provide a decent source for that), but in the end it matters not.

All that matters is who has the facts on their side. If there are corporations claimed to be spending millions are promoting the truthful side of the debate - then what they expend is utterly irrelevant.

BTW - western governments spend more fighting islamic terrorism than they spend fighting us. Does that give the head-choppers the moral high ground?

The sad thing is, he sacrificed his career and reputation for a measly $50K. He's done like toast.
Posted by: DaninVan at October 20, 2009 11:55 AM "

ya no kidding.

what's that, 2 months earnings tops for one with that kind of stuff on their CV?

greed knows no bounds and has no impediments nowadays.

His financial dealings had all the integrity of his scientific inquiries.

">Interesting poll results