Or, in the immortal words* of Tasnim Aslam - "Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence".
Posted by Kate at October 16, 2009 3:46 PMA hardline Islamist group in Somalia has begun publicly whipping women for wearing bras that they claim violate Islam as they are 'deceptive'.
The insurgent group Al Shabaab has sent gunmen into the streets of Mogadishu to round up any women who appear to have a firm bust, residents claimed yesterday.
The women are then inspected to see if the firmness is natural, or if it is the result of wearing a bra. If they are found wearing a bra, they are ordered to remove it and shake their breasts, residents said...
'Al Shabaab forced us to wear their type of full veil and now they order us to shake our breasts,' a resident, Halima, told Reuters, adding that her daughters had been whipped on Thursday.
'They are now saying that breasts should be firm naturally, or just flat.'
Sometimes you just can't say anything!
Posted by: Orlin Bowman at October 16, 2009 4:00 PMWhy is it when I read that piece, I had Motley Crue's "Girls, Girls, Girls" playing in my head???
Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2009 4:03 PMAre the Somalian Burqas see through?
Posted by: h.ryan at October 16, 2009 4:04 PMNow you are beginning to understand ROP: it can be used to justify about anything.
Posted by: Aaron at October 16, 2009 4:07 PMSo who gets to do the whipping, and is it in public? These "men" are pathetic. They really need to go back to the caves. I wonder if they wear leather as they practice their fantasy sex games. Cheers.
Posted by: fernstalbert at October 16, 2009 4:13 PMHootermania in Somalia?? I would have never dreamed of that!!
Posted by: atric at October 16, 2009 4:20 PMThese whackos need to go to a stripper bar to get their jollies.
Posted by: Mike in White Rock at October 16, 2009 4:27 PMI can hardly wait for "Girls Gone Wild, Mogadishu Edition"!
This stuff just writes itself.
Posted by: The Phantom at October 16, 2009 4:28 PMHow do you negotiate with people like this? Taliban Jack and Obama both believe that they can sit down and negotiate with these neanderthals; some how by talking to these radicals they will convince them to change their ways and treat women as human beings rather than property. Well, good luck, Jack and Barack, you're going to need it.
Posted by: Trent at October 16, 2009 4:29 PMSay, I wonder if there's a market for whale dick leather in Somalia?
Posted by: The Phantom at October 16, 2009 4:29 PMTrent said: "How do you negotiate with people like this?"
That's dead easy, Trent. You issue every single chick in town a .38 snubbie and 200 rounds. The hardliner Islamist survivors will be very happy to negotiate their surrender. Just say you'll keep the women away from them, and they'll probably kiss your feet.
Posted by: The Phantom at October 16, 2009 4:38 PMAwaiting Judy Rebick's response with interest
Posted by: Erik Larsen at October 16, 2009 4:46 PMBanning the Bran - listen for the feminists' cheering and congratulating their burka clad sisters on their freedom from oppressive clothing.
Posted by: LC Bennett at October 16, 2009 4:59 PMBanning the BRA - listen for the feminists' cheering and congratulating their burka clad sisters on their freedom from oppressive clothing.
Posted by: LC Bennett at October 16, 2009 5:01 PM"These whackos need to go to a stripper bar to get their jollies.
Posted by: Mike in White Rock at October 16, 2009 4:27 PM"
Mohammed Atta did, and ...
"• 1. In Venice Florida, Mohamed Atta lived for two months with an American stripper/lingerie model named Amanda Keller.
• 2. Atta loved to party. He was out with Keller nearly every night they were together. He was a heavy drinker, snorted coke, was a stylish dresser and wore expensive jewelry.
• 3. According to Keller, Atta loved pork chops."
http://www.breakfornews.com/Mohammed-Atta.htm
Posted by: maz2 at October 16, 2009 5:07 PMLooks like a religiously sanctioned peep show.
Posted by: Sounder at October 16, 2009 5:12 PMBoobs banning boobs,brilliant!
Posted by: h.ryan at October 16, 2009 5:30 PMI'm just speechless. There is no negotiating with these luddites. They only understand and respect violence.
Posted by: Mazzuchelli at October 16, 2009 5:33 PMOkay, is everyone convinced Islamic morality and modesty are big fat lies?
Do I have to join the ROP to get in on the action?
Hey, and no doubt they're checking out the younger, more nubile babes pretty regularly. The old has-beens... not so much!
Posted by: Slim at October 16, 2009 6:05 PMhmmm....I wonder if we could get Nancy Pelosi to try that ?
ugh....what the hell was I thinking ?
Posted by: atwoodsux at October 16, 2009 6:21 PMI wonder, what is the gunmen's view of codpieces?
Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at October 16, 2009 6:29 PMDidn't Meeeghan McCain twitter about this the other day?
Posted by: andycanuck at October 16, 2009 6:31 PMIt beats the fatwah where a Muffti ordered women to breast feed strange men because once they suckled on her boob these men would be like family. Can you image being ordered to breast feed grown men who are strangers, needless to say the ruling was over turned.
Merry ole England ain't so merry these days. Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=det7TUsLy8U&feature=player_embedded
Posted by: Rose at October 16, 2009 6:35 PMAnd yet people want to believe Islam is innocuous....
Posted by: Mark Peters at October 16, 2009 6:48 PMNow as a red-blooded Canuck male I often observe women and wonder about the jiggle/firmness factor, but I wouldn't call it a religion. Actually, it more of a national pastime.And I certainly don't stop and physically check out the evidence. That is just wrong on so many levels.
Exit question: How in the heck can you tell what is under a tent dress anyway?
Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 16, 2009 6:59 PMgotta read between those line people !!!
you think latching onto or more precisely, getting forced into the 'religion of peace' by accident of birth gonna make all those YSMs 'young single males' ober dere all stern and morally superior?
not.
this is just an EXCUSE eh to cop a feel and do some S&M under the GUISE of sharia law. I kinda think the original mohamMAD would distance himself from this brazenness.
so clue in finally and see this for what it is. closer to a frat house prank than a religious tenant.
Hmmmmmmm, I guess it is better than the fate of the 7 women who went "swimming" this summer in eastern Ontario.
I am so happy that those cave men, ROP POS brought that crap to my neighborhood.
Oh, and this is the result of liberal/dipper/moonbat kumbaya, cut and run diplomacy......if my brother and his comrades in arms were given the resources back in the 90's, none of this crap would be happening today.
Posted by: kingstonlad at October 16, 2009 7:13 PMA fellow I worked with some years ago spent a few years working in Africa. He described some of the prostitutes that came in from the untamed world, to work in the city, as having roll-em-up titties. They'd take their sagging flat breasts, and roll them up, then stuff them into a bra. I'm certainly not against having that practise done away with.
Posted by: dp at October 16, 2009 7:25 PMHow long until "Whipping" becomes a multicultural given?
Posted by: zilla at October 16, 2009 7:49 PMThese guys are lacking in imagination. Al Qeida supposedly got run out of one province in Iraq when they tried to enforce this bit of brilliance: Shopkeepers, market operators, and female customers were forbidden to engage in a certain transaction without the woman's husband being present and assenting. The forbidden items were cucumbers, large English variety type cucumbers.
As to the "shakedown" action, a cynic might suggest either the "bra clans" or the bra sellers had not been enthusiastic enough in their financial support of the holy terrorists and a message was being sent.
Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at October 16, 2009 8:01 PMcurious_george - what you state underlies the issue.
How does one separate tribal practises and arcane interpretations of the Koran, from a "nice" Islam?
With the Roman Catholic church, you can go to the pope as "the authority" - as he represents Catholics (well, it's way more complicated than that, but I'm lazy tonight)
In Islam, there is not a centralized "command and control" centre as I understand it - so there are various interpretations of the Koran, and idiosyncratic pronouncements by imams
Jiggling breasts? Maybe it's a problem in Islam. And maybe it depends on which country, location, or province you are. (One could argue that there are idiosyncratic pronouncements in different Christian religions as well.)
But hopefully in an ideal world we can all agree on what's kooky.
Posted by: Regular poster boy at October 16, 2009 8:01 PMcurious_george - here is a question about divorce, asked from the United States on the always entertaining and informative website "askimam.org":
I have a question and will be highly appreciative if u can guide me. I saw my wife's chatting with some guy and in anger i holded Quran in my hand and said that while having Allah (swt) as witness u will be diveroced if u ever chat or talk with someone (even cousins), even on phone. My main intention was to frighten her so she doesnt do it again as it bothers me that my wife chats or talks with Namahrams. Then i thought about it, now i wanna take back my words, she has also apologized. If she does talk to someone would that mean that a divorce will take place automatically? I am also very sorry for my action out of anger. Please guide me in this matter. Thank you
Here is the answer:
It is highly irresponsible of you to utter statements of such magnitude in a state of anger. You should always be cognizant of the following āyah:
Not a word does he utter except there is a watcher by him ready (to record it) (Qur’ān 50:18)
If, by your statement, you meant that if your wife ever chats or talks to a non-mahram in the future, then you will divorce her at that time, then a divorce will not automatically take place if your wife does the act.
Always interesting . . .
Posted by: Regular poster boy at October 16, 2009 8:06 PMYeah, because this is all about modesty and not a way for piggish Islamic nutters to cop a feel under the threat of harsh punishment.
Posted by: Amy P. at October 16, 2009 8:10 PMHow come there is always cucumbers in the market but never any in the salad?
Posted by: rebarbarian at October 16, 2009 8:17 PMShould change their name to Al-Shaboob.
Posted by: DrD at October 16, 2009 8:31 PMJust remember folks, all cultures and beliefs are equal.
You racist.
Posted by: Kursk at October 16, 2009 8:40 PMI'm from the FBI, show me your boobies.
Posted by: PiperPaul at October 16, 2009 8:48 PM> Hey, and no doubt they're checking out the younger, more nubile babes pretty regularly. The old has-beens... not so much!
Well, as the girls don't seem to have any say in what happens to them, I don't doubt the old has-beens get their share too.
Posted by: Darrell at October 16, 2009 9:05 PM'They are now saying that breasts should be firm naturally, or just flat.'
Hardline Islamists and radical feminists playing the same side of the field..., now there's a curious conjunction wouldn't you say?
Posted by: bethesda guy at October 16, 2009 9:29 PMdp at 7:25
My gawd!...Isn't that a nightmare that belongs in Hollyweird.
"• 3. According to Keller, Atta loved pork chops."
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"Atta, the leader of the September 11 group who piloted one of the four airplanes, was the son of a middle-class Egyptian family. It is staggering to think that, during the three last days before the attack, he spent his nights in bars with his accomplices. There is something mysterious and intriguing in this. Who asks about the souls of those men? Who were they and what were their motivations? What did Islam mean to them? What does it mean to kill oneself for that cause?"
"On War and Apocalypse
René Girard"
http://www.firstthings.com/article/2009/07/apocalypse-now
Posted by: maz2 at October 16, 2009 9:34 PMKeep in mind, folks, that the Predator drone pilots in Afghanistan have recorded plenty of footage of shariah-loving jihadist so-called "men" fornicating with goats and sheep. Bestiality and little boys are fair game in the 7th century societies where Islam thrives in its most primitive forms, but women are creatures to be hidden away - so long as they don't show any sign of being desirable. No telling how the jihadist perverts would react when face to face with a human female rather than a ewe.
And by the way, thank the Liberals for the infusion of the finer aspects of Somali culture into Canada.
Posted by: Tanker at October 16, 2009 9:37 PMI am still laughing over atric's comments. Great one!
Seriously though folks you cannot expect them to buy a pig in a poke. You can always be assured of the quality when stamped by the religious police.
All joking aside you have to remember that women are simple chattel in this culture, often with a lower status than a camel.
Posted by: Alain at October 16, 2009 9:44 PMThanks Kate for sharing this. The only laugh I get nowadays is from your site.
And Tanker, you're kidding, aren't you?
"Always interesting . . .
Posted by: Regular poster boy at October 16, 2009 8:06 PM"
looks like new done got itself a 'new' handle.
LOL !!!
There's a bitter clinger joke in there somewhere.
Posted by: Bernie at October 16, 2009 11:14 PMSo now there's an Islamic Bra Police? The mind boggles.
curious_george said: "this is just an EXCUSE eh to cop a feel and do some S&M under the GUISE of sharia law"
That's along the lines of what I was thinking too ...
Posted by: nv53 at October 16, 2009 11:55 PMWell...its become quite obvious hasn't it? The leftist feminists, I have to assume, hate this kind of thing happening to women of Islam - but.....
Should they ever decide that they need to rise-up against this horrific oppression against their "sisters" well.... that would mean they actually agree with what "right" thinking people have been saying all along.
Can't have that now, can we? Isalmic women are the true sacraficial lambs of the left. Feminists are willing to sacrifice Islamic women for the greater good of defeating "conservatives"
Enjoy your wine, ladies!
Phoney bitches - all of them!
Posted by: a different bob at October 17, 2009 12:01 AMRodney Carrington believes that unclasping your bra is the way to world peace!
A must-see video!
http://www.break.com/movies_nsfw/rodney-carrington-show-them-to-me.html
bethesda guy, Hardline Islamists and radical feminists playing the same side of the field..., now there's a curious conjunction wouldn't you say?
Strange bedfellows, eh what?
Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at October 17, 2009 12:26 AMThis back and forth is like an episode of South Park. Starring Cartman in every role.
Will this comment see the light of day? See Kate's blogs on free speech.
Posted by: craig at October 17, 2009 3:08 AMIslam = The sexual perverts favorite Religion if not the Misogynists.
Posted by: Revnant Dream at October 17, 2009 3:12 AMPosted by: curious_george
this is just an EXCUSE eh to cop a feel and do some S&M under the GUISE of sharia law. I kinda think the original mohamMAD would distance himself from this brazenness.
so clue in finally and see this for what it is. closer to a frat house prank than a religious tenant.*******
I politely disagree. The Prophet (may a thousand camels crap on him) was a bizarre, bloodthirsty, biggoted, syphilitic pediphile.
This is just his speed.
The is much merit to Phatom's suggestion....
You issue every single chick in town a .38 snubbie and 200 rounds.....
This does make me a bad person it just means I have an opinion.
My description of the Prophet (may a thousand camels crap on him) was inaccurate----I forgot to mention he was uneducated and totally illiterate......sorta makes you wonder if BamBam is carrying on a muslim tradition---ghost writers---
Posted by: sasquatch at October 17, 2009 4:17 AMThis would be an incredibly well done satire if it wasn't so tragic. What a shame.
Posted by: The Champ at October 17, 2009 10:04 AMAnd now these women with their families will go to the Canadian consulate and say they want refuge in Canada as their own people are treating them like dirt.
Once in Canada, nicely fed and taken care of, they will turn around at the slightest hint of imagined ill will, and sue the Canadian govt.
I have stopped feeling sorry for these women. If they want a better life, they should fight for it or die in the bargain.
MariaS (dodocanspell)
Left-liberals/socialists: allied with Muslim jihad.
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"A Slimy ‘Man,’ a Slimy Network [MSNBC]
Last week, on air, Keith Olbermann (a leading personality, if there is such a thing on his network), described columnist Michelle Malkin as “a mashed up bag of meat with lipstick.”"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2364643/posts
Posted by: maz2 at October 17, 2009 1:06 PM"this is just an EXCUSE eh to cop a feel and do some S&M under the GUISE of sharia law."
Hmm, whenever Muslims do something bad I hear that this is "just an excuse", "not a real Islam", "this is cultural". On the other hand whenever some Muslims did something good I hear this is "real Islam" "this is Islamic culture" "this is islamic tradition"
Now, whenever something is good in Western society Islamists are saying "these are universal values", "this is Islamic not western"; whenever something is bad in western society many Muslims are saying" this is real West", "these are Western values" "this is real US/Canada/Europe"
Strange, isn't it?
This must have been done by the bad Taliban - not the good Taliban. The MSM has been reporting that Obama is suggesting making a deal with the good Taliban - against the Bad Taliban in Afghanistan.
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