Yes, Iggy goes dancing with Lady Gaga

Is that satire?

No really. That Star piece sounds like an intern ran a Trudeau Boilerplate computer program, then handed the results in before deadline.

Didn't the author get the memo that under lib left governments Canada isn't into being "global peacemakers", but rather just being peacekeepers. There's a big difference. The latter is done by limp wristed lefties, the former by hard asses with guns.

Trudeau was just announced as one of the five inaugural inductees into Canada's Queer Hall of Fame

Perhaps Iggy would be best off going after that first.

One thing's for sure:

Iggy will never be named into the Gay Hall of Fame, like Trudeau was last week.

Well, the comparison of Ignatieff with Pierre Trudeau is excessively flattering to Ignatieff.
Trudeau, after all, spent his entire working career in Canada,
and in the late 40s and early 50s was much involved in
anti-Duplessis resistance and in Cite' Libre. No Obama-like dropping in for a chat now and then.
Trudeau did considerable
harm to Canada; but Duplessis was competent at
thuggery, and was always suspected of closet fascism in English Canada.

I'm trying to imagine him working up the nerve to tell someone to F*&* off.

Now that's a picture I'll dwell on for a while

I never much agreed with Nixon except for his opinion of Trudeau. With that one he was right on.

I've never understood why people care what the world thinks of Canada.

Bulletin: Mostly they don't, and when they do it's some vague picture involving moose and mounties and canoes.

And that suits me fine. At any rate, I would vastly prefer that Canada do the right things on the global stage and be hated for it then be voted Miss Congeniality for a lot of hypocritical, politically correct B.S.

Iggy like Trudeau ? hmmmm...................
maybe the party of toronto should rethink this - stick Iggy in a canoe in the NWT (wonder if he knows where that is ?) - or does his war room ass-kicker believe that connects with teeoh , he enjoying being in beaches and all.......why not make Delisle the capital of Ontario

what lying jerks they are

Canada would benefit greatly if it stopped "mattering on the world stage".

We have everything we need, with very few needs from the remainder of the world besides trade with the US.

Indeed what does the world offer Canada aside from “cultural enrichment”? Canada Looses at every turn when dealing outside of NA, outsourcing manufacturing is only the tip of the iceberg.

Globalization is a scam perpetrated by BIG business and socialist idealism – a double negative that will condemn Canada’s future to a third world sell off, not unlike the US today.

I take offense to the idea anything Trudeau enacted made Canada better, If anything 90% of what is drastically wrong with this country can be traced to Trudeau's Governments.
He lowered the living standard of every Canadian since his time, he created our massive federal debt, he stocked the bureaucracy with party faithful, made more appointments than any other PM by far, grew the civil service by 3000%, indebted us for life, created the Charter of "rights" to replace a far superior bill of rights,stacked our supreme court with left wing ideologues, changed our penal system to a "justice" system, unilaterally removed capital punishment, created the young offenders act, Multiculturalism and French as an official language(the cost is astronomical).
Better?

Hmmmm. Maybe if his wife tooted coke and slept with The Rolling Stones. On second thought, maybe the Jonas Brothers or, heck, even Joyce Brothers.
Or on third thought ... I knew Pierre Trudeau and, you sir, are no Pierre Trudeau!

Likening Count Igula with PET is just so wrong on so many levels.
For starters...
Posted by: robins111
***I'm trying to imagine him working up the nerve to tell someone to F*&* off.

Now that's a picture I'll dwell on for a while***

Exactely, although I thoroughly loathed PET's policies he was anything but boring...
THE COUNT IS BORING.....

Trudeau, while an arrogant narcissist like Ignatieff, was gutsy and had flair.
Ignatieff is distant and dull in comparison.

Trudeau was also a success because the era in which he lived recognized a gulf or "Generation Gap" between cohorts caused by the changing technology and affluence never before experienced in human history.
A virtual "future shock" that the older generation at the time found baffling.

Trudeau got the older generation's votes, his generation, because he appeared to bridge that gap.

I doubt Trudeau would be a success in these times that we live in with that kind of appeal.

They're both A##holes.
Enough said.

The only world leaders that attended Trudeau's funeral were Castro and Jimmy Carter. What does that tell you? I do not agree we "mattered" under Trudeau.

I note PMSH has approval ratings beyond anything Trudeau earned in his day.

So all that's needed is a few pirhouettes and a rose in the lapel?? snicker...how cool is that!

Liberals (and their media mouthpieces) are so ridiculous.

Trudeau was a pathetic man, a moral coward who sat out WW2 - the great moral challenge of his generation and instead drove his motorcycle around Montreal.

He befriended and provided faux legitimacy to despicable mass murdering dictators like Castro and Mao.

The man is a poster child for a Useless Canadian, our Great National Embarrassment.

Trudeau was the best PM this country has had. He was well respected on the world stage as was Chretien. This country is a far better place because of them. Enough said.

But, Ignatieff IS out standing in his field. But, it turns out it was the wrong field!!!

“Look at the field behind me, it is not getting done,” Ignatieff said.

Burlington Mayor Cam Jackson said the Liberals picked the wrong field to stage their press conference. The park project just got environmental approval last week and wasn’t planned for years.

“This project was not slated to be done for seven years,” Jackson said.

He added he won’t criticize the Tories or the provincial government on infrastructure spending because he has projects happening all over his municipality.

And these people want to manage OUR country????
Yikes.

As for Trudeau on the international state: I lived abroad for part of his reign, and the international press certainly knew about him, but treated him as a playboy, more or less Latin-American style. When he made his great pronouncements on world affairs it was strictly for a Canadian audience. His views weren't taken seriously, if they were reported at all, abroad.

Chretien well respected on the world stage? Man, that is funny! Good one!

As for being famous worldwide, at his funeral I recall only Castro and Jimmy Carter showing up to represent world leaders. Contrast that to the funeral for President Reagan. One Trudeau is all Canada can accomodate.

What!?! But Truedough said he was about substance over style...now the historic revisionists say style over substance for Iggy...I'm freakin confused with the Liberals...before you know it they're going to embrace evangelicals and kill the gun registry

You know the liberal party is a spent force when they have to keep dragging up the corpse of Trudeapia to pin on every white elephant leader they can field.

Iggy is NOT Trudeau, neither are his 2 kids, and do we really need another Trudeau?

Trudeau ran a sloppy hedonist-voguish spend thrift regime when the nation was in the heady throws of deficit spending bounty and the flowering of inflationary pseudo-wealth. Good time charlie in good times. PET's deficit economy and just society chickens came home to roost and all that is left is to deal with Trudeaupian economic/social fallout and make sure we never go back. Trudeau was the poster boy of summer but summer has passed and the cold reality of economic winter of debt service looms with us every day. We can never go back to decadent squandering 'summer' or the boy that personified it.

A reality check for all you Trudeupian Liberals:

Nobody on the road
Nobody on the beach
I feel it in the air
The summers out of reach
Empty lake,
Empty streets
The sun goes down alone

Out on the road today I saw a deadhead sticker
On a cadillac
A little voice inside my head said, dont
Look back. you can never look back.
I thought I knew what utopia was,
What did I know?
Those days are gone forever
I should just let them go but-

Yes, sorry to say it, Chretien was indeed and still is respected on the world stage.

One cannot simply despise someone because they are a Liberal.

Trudeau did good and bad things for Canada, but I think you are missing the point- He had a vision, an idea of what Canada should become and could become, and he rallied Canadians around this vision. Not around himself, but his idea- there is a difference.

Contrast this with our current "leader", whose only vision is the next election and what he must do to win a majority. He has failed to do so twice, and now remains in power only because of his alliance with a socialist party and a separatist party. Well done. Hell of a legacy.

He also is mortgaging your future to save his- buying back mortgages from deadbeat home "owners" and spending your grandkids' money on a war that has been marked with nothing but failure for 8 years now.

Eight years on and the only things Canadian forces control are Kabul and some northern towns - during the day. Opium crop up 3000%. Taliban back in power in most of the country. Hearts and minds lost when weddings are bombed. Well done again.

"Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi will stop in St. John's, N.L. on his way home from the United Nations General Assembly meeting in New York City, the prime minister's office has said."

W....T.....F

This will occur in my province and my home city. I am *outraged*. We deny galloway but let in Ghadafi? I hope the word gets out on where this dictator is staying, because I would love to stand outside and protest. If anyone finds out, get the word out.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090924/Gadhafi_Canada_090924/20090924?hub=TopStories

By the end of his reign Trudeau was despised by all normal Canadians and even more so by Quebecers. The huge Mulroney victory was proof of that. Of course the Toronto Fishwrap has laboured mightily to smokescreen that awkward for them part of our history.

First the press tried to present Iggy as a dymamic leader who would remake Canada from the ashes of Conservative governance. That didn't work so then they tied to portray him as Canada's Obama. That flopped badly, so now they're re-casting him as Trudeau II? And they think that will work?

They might as well forget it, Iggy is not the next great Liberal leader. Even he knows it, which is why he's agitating for an election. He just wants to get it over with so he can either win and be PM or lose and go back to the US, just as long as he doesn't have to continue in his current mode of go-nowhere opposition leader.

Mark - re: Ghadafi - his plane is just stopping to refuel in St. John's . He won't be pitching his tent there.
Cannon is going to tell him Canada is dusgusted with the way they welcomed the freed Unibomber as a hero.
Calm down!

He was well respected on the world stage as was Chretien. This country is a far better place because of them. Enough said.
~T

Here is a picture of Prime Minister Chretien garnering respect for Canada on the world stage.

http://tinyurl.com/y9ho8mf

When I see that picture, the word buffoon comes to mind.

This "respect" you speak of, T.
I do not think it means what you think it means.

Regardless, all the world is not a stage, and most of the world doesn't even know Canada even exists, forget respect Canada or it's forgettable politicos.

What I care about is how we Canadians are governed right here, and no matter how the Libranos are marketed, they are still a bunch of thieves and liars.

But I don't want Canada to "matter" on the world stage!
In fact I'd be REAL happy if the rest of the world buggered off and left us alone!
BTW the ONLY reason Iggy wants Canada to "matter" is because then if he's able to pull an upset then as Prime Minister HE will matter! His interest in Canada "mattering" is only in connection to the boost his massive ego will receive...he doesn't give a fiddler's f**k about you or me.

BTW have you seen Ghadafi's bodyguard corps?

Moammar Khadafy travels with pistol-packin' posse of women bodyguards

Now THERE'S a despot with style! In fact he's forgotten more about style than Iggy will ever know. Maybe the Lieberals should have picked Ghadafi to be their leader...

Some Liberals think Iggy's slogan is great: "We can do better", so much so they think Iggy should apply it!

Slap!

Oh sure, Trudeau was terrific when I was twenty and discovered that I could get paid to be an actor. That lasted four years. Four great years, I got to tell you. The twenty-five years spent paying it back though were rather sobering, however.

Your usual dishonest tactic of chopping up someone's writing, picking out material, stacking it up out of context, and failing to address the writer's actual argument.

Oh, do enlighten us Harry. What was the writer's actual argument?

The next rational thought Bob Hepburn has will be the first one.

At least Iggy would dress better than Harper has - would that help us on the 'world stage'? Here's a fun article on the Tim Hortons saga:

http://thealbatross.ca/2009/09/as-usual-harper-inappropriately-dressed-for-work/

To do so, he should steal from Trudeau's agenda, running on just two or three overriding themes that resonate with Canadians, such as championing medicare or restoring our image as global peacemakers.
~Bob Hepburn

Hasn't all of Trudeau's agenda been implemented?
How can Mr. Ignatieff steal from it if it's already been done?

We've got "medicare".
It's not working very well.
Jean Chrétien spent $20 million sending Roy Romanow around to find out how to "fix medicare".

Conservatives said from the beginning that Romanow would essentially say, "Throw more money at it", which is exactly what happened.
"Medicare" is still in need of fixing and lack of money isn't the problem.

Restoring our image as global peacemakers is probably not a good idea when people are losing their jobs and houses too.
Most Canadians would probably opt for a job that allows them a roof over their heads and food on the table rather than a restored image of anything.
World stage, what's that in mean in cold hard reality here in the Great White North?

Finally, I hope that Mr. Ignatieff takes Bob Hepburn's advice.
It's a recipe for losing.

Do you know what resonates with Canadians - just like every well-nurtured human spirit throughout the ages? Honesty, integrity, modesty, altrustic risk and efficacy.

Why do I feel that the old hippie guard has decided to take the cake out of the oven before it is done? Is it because they are now in their early 60's and they are soooo narcistic that they had no intention of changing the world without their presence? As a child of the 70's and 80's, I've always felt neglected.

Now their getting old and unintentionally stinky.

LPC of today. Obama. Global Warming. They all have lack of patience in common.

The 60's are turning 70's and 80's.

My revenge.

Let me get this straight. They want a gigolo crossed with a dilettante poser whose antics impressed no one but Liberals, & their Myth makers.
A committed socialist who could never get over his man love for Fidel or Mao. Who brought this Nation to the brink of separation . Than created the welfare state with the HRC's & other delusions to make us comply. To top it off he made us poor by stealing producers efforts.
Yup thats what Canada needs for a PM. Another liberal crook with a god complex.Himself being the chief deity.
JMO

T @3:18,

You're joking, right? Nobody could say that with a straight face!

After you, Ig-Gaston.
Non, apres vous Michelakov.
Non merci, after vous ….
…-

Headline:

“Cauchon offered Montreal’s Jeanne-Le Ber riding”

“By relegating Cauchon to Jeanne-Le Ber, Ignatieff has sided with Denis Coderre, his Quebec lieutenant,”.
…-

WE Liberals are entitled to our entitlements.

J’accuse Liberal Ignatieff of being an Ig-iot.
…-

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Cauchon+offered+Montreal+Jeanne+riding/2029404/story.html

Welcome to LibIgg’s Peoples Democratic Party of Chine, er China.

Knock, knock: Commmeee innnn. I’ve been waiting for youse. You are late for your appointment. Why?
…-

“Former top Liberal official blasts party’s lack of democracy”

“We’ve turned into one big appointment society,” Sheila Gervais told The Canadian Press.

“It’s a perfect democratic deficit storm.”
http://www.canadaeast.com/front/article/802594
…-

Whose fault dat? It’s “democratic” o’s fault.

Correction: it’s the Tories fault.

Comprends?

I admit I'm pretty easily mislead, but I try to believe that Canadians are oh-so-just-a-little more sophisticated than they were in the seventies and eighties, and that they wouldn't be sucked in by a reincarnation of Turdeau. Tell me I'm right....

I never saw Trudeau as a leader. To me he was a follower of public opinion in the metropolitan areas. To me he did squat, retired, started to write his memoirs and discovered he hadn't done anything. Then he came back and screwed up the country.

Take me now, lizardmeister.

MSM covers this up.

Brussels Journal, the voice of conservatism in Europe, reports.

Dedicated to Liberal Ignatieff and his Hezbollah Coderre.

Quote: “One or two even proclaimed unashamedly: “We are all Hezbollah Now” [video].*”

This is the sewer running underground through the Ignatieff Liberal Party.

…-

*”Tehran Calling to the Faraway Towns

Last week was al-Quds (or ‘Jerusalem’) Day. It sounds as if it could be an ancient religious festival. But it is not. This annual event – usually held on the last Friday of Ramadan – was founded by Ayatolla Khomeini, as a day to oppose the “usurper Israel.” Today it’s also an occasion for hardliners of all stripes, around the world, to celebrate Iran’s clerical regime and its client, the Lebanese-based terrorist militia Hezbollah.

In Tehran, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad spoke at an anti-Israel march, and, once again, referred to the Holocaust as a “myth.” “The very existence of this regime [Israel],” he said, “is an insult to the dignity of the people.”

In Germany, the neo-Nazi German People’s Union (DVU) leant its support to the al-Quds Day, and called on its supporters to join in the Berlin march.

In London the annual al-Quds event was held on Sunday September 13, and sponsored by an array of organizations from the Muslim association of Britain to the Respect Party.

The day was marked by Islamists, Leftists (many of whom wore the keffiyeh), and even some extremist anti-Zionist Jews, marching through the streets of Britain’s capital. Hezbollah flags and photographs of the terrorist group’s leader Hassan Nasrallah filled the streets, along with Palestinian flags, and placards with pro-Hamas and anti-Zionist slogans. One or two even proclaimed unashamedly: “We are all Hezbollah Now” [video]. Besides the waving of flags and placards, the also crowd chanted “free, free Palestine,” “boycott Israel,” and even “boycott Starbucks” – the coffee chain that “offended” Islamists with its logo of a mermaid (which they believe is actually the “queen of the Jews”), and which they now believe to be financing “Zionist aggression.” (A Starbucks near the Israeli embassy in London was smashed up by “pro-Palestinian” demonstrators in January.)

Guest speakers for the 2009 London al-Quds event included Dr. Daud Abdullah, Sheikh Bahmanpour, Rabbi Ahron Cohen, Yvonne Ridley, and Anas Al Tikriti. However, this rather multicultural sounding bunch is a whole lot more worrisome than it might first appear.”
(More)
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4100

You have to give the press a lot of credit! They have REALLY tried VERY HARD to give Ignegative their very VERY best advice. They have tried so hard ever since he was spirited in and then crowned as the LAST HOPE. Many pictures, comments aired, pro-Iggy press and supportive commentary.

The latest advice, to be Trudeau, was REALLY odd, but some others have been good. DESPITE all the DESPERATE advice-giving, it ain't working. The really honest journalists, who are listening to knowledgeable Liberals and Canadians too, are talking about the fact that no make-over will work. Even in the skinny jeans, red sweater and face re-do, Iggy blows it by not knowing anything about the Burlington field to which he pointed. In doing so, he ticks off the mayor! How to lose points in a photo-op!

What it looks like is really going on is by the copious references the MSM has lately been making about Truedud, is they are crafting a meme that all the LPC needs to win is a new face that resembles PET....the next piece falls into place when they add...what about Justin.
They are deluded.
They have been out of power for how long, and in that time what new policy have they come up with?
And by new policy it is meant that they need to explain what they woud do differently not invent stuff.

"and now remains in power only because of his alliance with a socialist party and a separatist party"

Hasn't this idiotic argument been put to bed in a previous discussion? Trying to work with the opposition to get bills passed is the way our parliamentary system is supposed to work. Getting the temporary support of the NDP and the Bloc'eads does not amount to an alliance. An alliance is what the Coalition of the Swilling cobbled together almost a year ago.

If you are unable to comprehend the difference, as obvious as it is, perhaps you should move on and allow the adults to converse.

Trudeau's international expertise is greatly exaggerated. No worthwhile international initiative originated in Canada while he was PM.
He was spectacularly wrong on the big issues facing his generation, totalitarian fascism, and communism. By his own addmission he "missed" the war on facism, spending the war years in childish self-absorption. As late as 1983-84 he was engaged in his Peace Crusade, advocating accomodation with the SU. Five years later the whole soviet system imploded. Reagan and Thatcher proved to be correct in their analysis. He remains an icon in Liberal Toronto, and english speaking Montreal, but Canada has largely outgrown Trudeau.

Trudeau mania,I remember it well,went there,did that,never again!

It's agreed then? Trudeau was a first-rate arsehole. Nixon wasn't as dumb as many thought. I lived through those years, and for the life of me, couldn't understand what (mostly women) saw in him.
Still can't.

The problem the Libranos have is that their sole policy---get elected and fill their pockets was exposed by the adscam thingy---
Much like a few embarrassing videos is deconstructing ACORN and a youtube video and an article in the MSM by Sarah Palin has de facto dispatched Obamacare........

Oh, and pirouetting behind the Queen's back, well you'd have to be brave and mature to do that wouldn't you? Or Attending a sporting outing in Alberta dressed as a pimp. That really gained him votes in the prairies, I'll bet!

when all the lieberals can do is drag PeeAir TrueDough out of his stinkin grave, you know they are in deep doodoo

PeeAir was a show and blow kind of guy, just like the big Owe is, narcistic as all git out, and NO substance

Now if Iggy could just imitate Trudeau's sexual preferences, I am sure all would be well.

Trudeau was an ass who ruined this country.

But he got his due when he had to bury his own son.

Horny Toad

Charming sentiment HT. Still stuffing care bears down at the plant?

"Dare we point out that there’s a difference between making “Canadians believe [they] mattered on the world stage” and Canada actually mattering on the world stage? "

You've definitely got a point there, Edward, but why would the Star bother distinguishing between illusion and reality? Instead of tediously coaching Iggy to act like a quasi-Trudeau, why not go straight to Justin?

The argument of the piece is that Trudeau became popular and -- to many people -- successful by actually standing for something, setting out positions, and being a man of action. Trudeau flipped the bird to the separatists while Iggy (and Harper) declared Quebec a nation.
Sure Trudeau was a screw-up, but he did win threemajority governments and people lined up for hours to pay their respects when he died.

OK Harry. But how have the excerpted lines been manipulated such that they contradict this very vague--and very dubious--sentiment?

Yo Horny Toad
Dat is way outta line. Learn to separate the private and professional aspects of one's life.

Trudeau was the best PM this country has had. He was well respected on the world stage as was Chretien. This country is a far better place because of them. Enough said.

Posted by: T at September 24, 2009 3:18 PM

Did anyone else smell sulfur when they read this or was it just me?
Rot in Hell PET.