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September 7, 2009

Fidel Castro: Not Dead Enough

h/t Shippedout

Posted by Kate at September 7, 2009 12:21 PM
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Equality through misery!

How dare people in capitalist countries by happy when others are suffering?

Comrades, we must make everybody suffer equally.

Posted by: set you free at September 7, 2009 12:45 PM

We visited a pharmacy later in the trip. Behind the counter five well-dressed Cuban women waited to serve, but the shelves were empty. The only items in sight were the monthly ration of sanitary napkins, 10 permitted per Cuban woman per month.

Loved this. 10 napkins per month. Hope women have short periods down in Cuba.

Posted by: Amy P. at September 7, 2009 12:58 PM

Be careful Kate, there are a lot of Castro and Chavez supporters in Canuckistan.

Posted by: Ken at September 7, 2009 12:59 PM

I have no love for socialism either, but how much of that is the fault of socialism, and how much is due to bloody minded legislation like the Helms-Burton act? I also suffer from no delusions that Batista and the mob were better stewards of the nation.

Posted by: Edward Teach at September 7, 2009 1:15 PM

Dear God they are just letting them die a slow and painful death by starvation by the looks of their bodies. I wish I could say I'm surprised but I'm not, the socialist elites feed off society whilst living in palaces. Only the elite comrades live a decent life style their comrades slowly starve to death after decades of neglect.

Posted by: Rose at September 7, 2009 1:20 PM

"His intellect is one of the most broad and complete that can be found. He is an expert on genetics, on automobile combustion engines, on stock markets. On everything.
Combined with a Herculean physique and extraordinary personal courage, this monumental intellect makes Fidel the giant that he is.
He is something of a superman. "
Alexandre Trudeau

Posted by: richfisher at September 7, 2009 1:20 PM

The above is why I don't much care what Mr. Moore has to say about capitalism.

Edward Teach, you know damn well there's nothing stopping Castro buying whatever he wants from Canada, France, Britain, Germany, what have you. Because he DOES ALREADY. Where do you think all the nice stuff for the tourists comes from?

Everything you see there is Castro's doing. He did that.

Posted by: The Phantom at September 7, 2009 1:22 PM

I spent a week in Cuba,not at a resort,but in what I call Castro's Cuba. Great people,but ungodly poverty for the great unwashed,and there were many,far too many. My most poignant memories include having dinner with a family where my friend told me not to ask for seconds of chicken because chicken was a luxury and my second piece would have come from the children's portion. Other deeply etched memories are of wild dogs in the streets doing their breeding, beat-up cars and trucks belching smoke,trying to buy film (couldn't be done),and a market where the only meat available was pork heads...But that was before Mr.Moore made his film 'Sicko',I must have missed that area of Cuba,or things improved greatly after my visit.

Posted by: wallyj at September 7, 2009 1:43 PM

Castro???? Wasn't he Pierre's pal????

Posted by: FREE at September 7, 2009 1:44 PM

This cannot be so Kate.

Micheal Moore, the man with permanent reservations at all the best cardiac clinics, says that Cuban health care is fantastic!

Posted by: AtlanticJim at September 7, 2009 2:01 PM

I visited Havana in 2000. While wandering aimlessly around the city I happenened to come across a long line-up of excited women in front of a store. Thinking there must be a sale on of some kind, I found myself standing along with the other women only to step into the store and see to my utter amazement that the line-up was to SEE and TOUCH (not buy, because none of the Cuban ladies could afford to)a dozen or so new T-shirts that had arrived at the store. The T-shirts were priced from approx.$2 - $4.

Posted by: MarionN at September 7, 2009 2:05 PM

Too bad that the MSM in both the States and Canada don't actually tell the truth!! Are we headed down the same path? I do know that now, those in Alberta who need treatments, these treatments are rationed and I'll bet anyone anything that the great unwashed will be staying way down on the bottom of that list. And I feel we are luckier than some, even in Canada.

Posted by: Lou-Lou at September 7, 2009 2:16 PM


FREE,

You forgot to throw "Maggie" in there as well...a 'twofer' as I recall!

Posted by: Garry at September 7, 2009 2:58 PM

Prior to Castro arriving Cuba had the largest economy in South and Central America. It had an economy better than Italy. However corrupt Battista was he didn't turn people into slaves.

Posted by: Belasarius at September 7, 2009 3:00 PM

Garry:

what they need is to throw Maggie down a stairwell.

somewhere in Habana.

that isn't a typo.

Posted by: curious_george at September 7, 2009 3:02 PM

MarionN said "a dozen or so new T-shirts that had arrived at the store."

I have friends who go to Cuba periodically and being musicians they always take guitar strings and give them as tips to the band members in the bars they go to. They can't get them there. The musicians are very grateful for this. One guy was so happy he started to cry.

Just the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: gord at September 7, 2009 3:05 PM

Frightening. A nightmare. A horror movie.

That's Cuban state-run, free, "universal" health"care".

Wonder what the suicide rate is in Cuban hospitals?

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at September 7, 2009 3:27 PM

have no love for socialism either, but how much of that is the fault of socialism, and how much is due to bloody minded legislation like the Helms-Burton act? I also suffer from no delusions that Batista and the mob were better stewards of the nation.

Posted by: Edward Teach at September 7, 2009 1:15 PM


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eddy, ya know what an election is, just one, ONE honest election in cuba, and bam, a whole new day will arrive


CAPICE!!!!!

Posted by: GYM at September 7, 2009 4:12 PM

[quote]However corrupt Battista was he didn't turn people into slaves.[/quote]Belasarius

This is one of those unlikely consequences that play out in NJ and NY... There seems to be an unwritten practice that allows some Organized Crime to exist as long as they self police the Prostitution/Drug trade in designated areas, and keep the violence among themselves.

The French had a similar agreement with the Normans...Normans protected France from invaders in exchange for Normandy (part of France) a base for the Norman conquest of all other countries

Las Vegas was crime free when the MOB owned the Casinos.. Safest city for a tourist.. Very bad for Gangs or petty criminals

US politicians that are caught stealing, Jailed, released, and then re-elected. It seems that pll prefer someone they know that steals a little to an unknown that may be more evil.

Cuba got screwed with Castro, and We (US)are next in line.

I would support Charlie Rangel (an American Black, NYC) regardless of his problems...(He is an American First DEmocrat)...

The Pelosi/Obama agenda may be be causing Rangel & other Senators problems...do what we say!

Posted by: Phillip G. Shaw at September 7, 2009 4:12 PM

[quote]Too bad that the MSM in both the States and Canada don't actually tell the truth!![/quote] Lou-Lou

The problem is not what the MSM say.. It's what they don't Say.. Both the "Meet the Press" (NBC) and FOX News Sunday, have commentary from those least likely to know the truth.

The Only people that should be on Television are Pelosi, Read, Boxer, and Waxman. They are the people America needs to hear from & be held accountable!

F**K Obama theater & the mindless speculation


Posted by: Slap Shot at September 7, 2009 4:47 PM

Fidel used to dandle the Trudeau children when Pierre and Margaret used to visit. Do we really believe that Trudeau was unaware of how bloody were the hands of this man, that he let him handle his offspring?
It's all there in Armando Valladares' "Beyond All Hope" about the prisons of Cuba.

Posted by: Larry Bennett at September 7, 2009 5:49 PM

Hmm, must be a different Castro you're talking about. The one in Cuba has been declared a “World Hero” by the UN.

Posted by: Kathryn at September 7, 2009 6:03 PM

Funny how none of the Castro/Cuba loving lefty journalists ever move to Cuba to experience first hand how wonderful life is in the Caribbean Communist Utopia.

The life of a Champagne Socialist is difficult enough these days, what with Obamasiah screwing up his White House gig.

Anyone need a Green Jobs Czar ? There is one available.

Posted by: Fred at September 7, 2009 6:21 PM

@ Amy P.:
"Hope women have short periods down in Cuba."

Thanks to malnutrition, fewer women will be inconvenienced with menstruation.

El Comandante thinks of everything!

Posted by: rg at September 7, 2009 6:23 PM

A few years ago, I spent a couple of weeks just wandering around Cuba, far from the opulent tourist traps of Veradero. I never saw so many police in any country (and I travelled widely in Latin America in the bad old days) but, I must say that I was never hassled. A few people were obviously afraid to talk to me but, as everywhere, taxi drivers and were usually willing to unload.

Anyway - back to health care. I did poke my nose into a couple of drug stores, and the shelves were absolutely bare.

In a small provincial city, I engaged a physician with an ancient rattletrap car to illegally drive me around for a couple of days (his days off from the clinic) for US$50.00. He told me that he and his wife (also a physician) each earned the equivalent of US$25.00 per month. This seemed so improbable that I later checked it out with a taxi driver in Havana who told me that that would be pretty standard, and was about equal to his weekly tips from tourists. (Hint, hint). And yes, it would be possible to live badly on $25.00 per month, as farm produce is incredibly cheap. However, I noticed that the doc's 6 year old son was wearing a T-shirt with an American logo - obviously from the large quantities of used clothing that U.S. charities ship via Mexico to avoid the embargo.

Anyway, the good doctor confided that the only supplies that he ordinarily had to work with were bandages and antiseptics. Antibiotics were unheard of, and any sort of pain killer was rare.

On the other hand, every big tourist hotel has a gleaming well-stocked clinic and a doctor on 24 hour call.

Posted by: Zog at September 7, 2009 6:47 PM

Health care for communists:

Read "Gulag Archipelago" it'll take the ache of dissent right out of your bones.

I think the photos would indicate something along the lines of "SUPERVISED NEGLECT".

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht-Commander in Chief
Army Group "True North"
1st St. Nicolaas Army

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at September 7, 2009 6:55 PM

I agree that Cuba is not Texas or Alberta. But why is it that since New Years Eve 1959, nobody has been able to go in there and film an undercover documentry that could have highlighted the shortcomings, and could have been broadcast on national American and Canadian TV?

I admit that security is tough, but with thousands of latinos who want to become American citizens, surely to God one of them would have consented to shoot and/or photograph some footage "in cognito" in exchange for a bungalow on a Miami crescent, along with a wife and two kids, a Ford Bronco, a 150 HP inboard and a dog name Duke and a cat named puff!


There seem to be a few chapters missing! I've always been interested in finding out what was going on over there, but I must've been the only one, as nobody else seemed to care!

I do remember having a shortwave radio when I was a kid, and listening to extreme right wing activists late at night. They were always going to go in there and "take over," but it never happened. Kennedy tried, that also failed. I think the Vietnam War, not to mention his assassination cut his plans short.

Posted by: Joe Citizen at September 7, 2009 7:08 PM

surely you all jest.

CBCpravda broadcast a special made by Dr. David Suzuki who praised Cuba's sustainable agriculture.
cue the "William Tell Overture "pastoral flutes.
there were pictures of farms with hay wagons. donkeys , smiling people(peasants) and the whole lot all providing a backdrop to Dr. D. himself narrating the loveliness of it all. no mention of not being able to afford fertilizer, fuel or even vets.

Posted by: cal2 at September 7, 2009 7:41 PM

Joe Citizen said "....surely to God one of them would have consented to shoot and/or photograph some footage "in cognito" in exchange for a bungalow on a Miami crescent,.."

The thought of having a car battery hooked up to your genitals 3 or 4 times a day for the next 10 years can really put a damper on that rebel spirit. Not to mention what they would do to your family.

Posted by: gord at September 7, 2009 7:47 PM

"Joe Citizen said "....surely to God one of them would have consented to shoot and/or photograph some footage "in cognito" in exchange for a bungalow on a Miami crescent,.."

The thought of having a car battery hooked up to your genitals 3 or 4 times a day for the next 10 years can really put a damper on that rebel spirit. Not to mention what they would do to your family.

Posted by: gord at September 7, 2009 7:47 PM "

Ah yes. But you see gord,in Joe's world,good socialist commies don't torture,so to him should be no problem verifying how crappy it is.
Hey Joe. Why don't you scoot down and do some filming??

Posted by: Justthinkin at September 7, 2009 8:06 PM

"CBCpravda broadcast a special made by Dr. David Suzuki who praised Cuba's sustainable agriculture."

Someone should ask Dr. Fruitflie, if their agricultural program is so great, why does Cuba have to import 60 percent of their food...

Posted by: Bruce at September 7, 2009 8:27 PM

Support the Cubans in a coup against the Castros. Send Michael Moore, Margaret Trudeau and Kim Jong-Il to one of the crapholes for treatment. Leave them there (tear up their passports). Have leftist tree-hugging, Israel-hating universal health-care supporters scrub the floors of these hospitals. Have Micahel Moore film this and put it up on Youtube everyday. Turn on your computers and watch these fools scrub these filthy floors.
I dare to dream...

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at September 7, 2009 8:38 PM

"Fidel used to dandle the Trudeau children".

Dandled them, did he. That explains a lot.

Posted by: Woodporter at September 7, 2009 8:40 PM

Every year, tens if not hundreds of thousands of Canadians, visit the Cuban resorts. These very same people are oh so concerned about food safety and animal welfare and the use of chemicals on their food in Canada. Thanks to them standing on their soapbox making demands Canadian agriculture is strapped with restriction after restriction.
But these same tourists have no problem-o chowing down at the all inclusive buffet in Cuba(or any 3rd world Caribbean country)and having a bowel full of local grown fare. If the friggin' hospitals look like that what do you think the conditions are like for animal slaughter and meat storage supplying the resorts? Hypocrites.

Posted by: The Glengarrian at September 7, 2009 9:11 PM

The Glengarrian said "If the friggin' hospitals look like that what do you think the conditions are like for animal slaughter and meat storage supplying the resorts?"

Probably much better. Cattle are worth far more than people in Cuba. You have to treat them with kid gloves. Cubans, not so much.

Posted by: gord at September 7, 2009 9:24 PM

"US politicians that are caught stealing, Jailed, released, and then re-elected"

That sentence could very well describe Liberals here in Canada .... with the notable exceptions of "jailed" and "released", of course. We seem to have omitted those steps.

Posted by: biffjr. at September 7, 2009 9:55 PM

Welcome to the communist/socialist paradise (Cuba).
Local (Canadian) socialists like to give the healthcare of a totalitarian regime as an example of well run system.
You see, local socialist, when they go to see the paradise of their pretend dreams get the service if needed, totally separate from Cuban reality.
They, the local socialists know that it is a false dream, for if they do not know, that would expose their stupidity and lack of anything resembling common sense. They support it none the less because they have an ideology, full of empty air with a lot of pretend sophisticated rhetoric, much like the current ruler of the US.
Have known a few people while working, that went to Cuba a few times every year, (cheap seats, spouse employed by Air Canada), they would collect all kind of trinkets from coworkers to give to the children in Cuba. Made them feel superior all the way to heavens.
An acquaintance couple does the same, had a chat over dinner about the subject and could not believe how good they felt about themselves. When told that they have no clue what they were talking about, as you may imagine, cold chill suddenly became obvious.
Growing up (me) in a country (in Europe) run by communists, they could not really have an argument to oppose. What is written in the blog is something that I have undisputable first hand experience, about the poverty (not necessary lack of money, rather lack of something to buy) and about the pretend factor.
The only thing that socialist/communist are good at, is putting on a show, much like Hollywood, until the other peoples money runs out. That is the closing curtain.
How is it possible that free people, living in land of plenty (in spite and contrary to what some may think, Canada is land of exceeding plenty) can be so ignorant?

Posted by: Lev at September 7, 2009 9:56 PM

If Cuba is such a paradise, why is the immigration traffic all one way? If we believe leftish commentators, Health Care is excellent, infant survivor rates are higher than in the US.
Why would this fantastic health program not result in some Spanish speaking Americans emigrating to Cuba? The only person I recall travelling the Florida straits illegally towards Cuba was Pierre Trudeau in a canoe.

Posted by: Martin at September 7, 2009 10:03 PM

Who out there thinks any MSM would broadcast an expose on life in Cuba? Joe's got his hand up.

Posted by: sonofAtilla at September 7, 2009 10:13 PM

"I have no love for socialism either, but how much of that is the fault of socialism, and how much is due to bloody minded legislation like the Helms-Burton act?"

Spoken like a true lefty-socialist. While I'm sure embargos like the US one does have an effect(it is supposed to)that's not the point. The point is that Cuba's health care system is put forth as such a wonderful system and its not wonderful at all. I have a lefty friend who always extoles the advantages of Cuba's system and turns out its not true at all. I've printed this out for him.

Horny Toad

Posted by: Horny Toad at September 8, 2009 12:25 AM

One of my friends and his teacher wife go to Cuba all the time and think it is great but never as I have suggested many times go into the local villages and stores to see what the people really live like. Even when I sent this lefty couple information about Cuba prepared by our CIDA when the Liberals were in power he thought it was just propaganda.

The US is Cuba's 10th largest source of goods, primarily medical products, but the US requires cash on the barrelhead for its goods.

Posted by: Dave at September 8, 2009 7:51 AM

The claim about the superior infant mortality rates for Cuba over the US, has been made by so many writers, there must be some statistical evidence for support. I don't believe it myself.
Perhaps some UNESCO table at some time made this claim. Can anyone explian it?

Posted by: Martin at September 8, 2009 9:40 AM

Edward Teach:

1. If socialism was so great, then Cuba would not need America for prosperity.

2. If socialists are for bright future for the people, they should have had no problem bowing to capitalist America just to let the people live better lives.

Try to counter that, comrade.

Posted by: Aaron at September 8, 2009 9:54 AM

The UN declaration of "world Hero" is SOP for the UN and it's IPCC and meaningless. Remember the Durban conferences on human rights?
156 nations in the UN and how many are democratic? maybe 30 if you rush.....the rest are despots and dictators........

Posted by: sasquatch at September 8, 2009 10:46 AM

I never said socialism was great, in fact I said pretty much the opposite...God you people need to develop some reading comprehension skills! What I said was there are other contributing factors to Cuba being in the shitter...that egregious bit of bloody-minded legislation which basically has the largest economy in the hemisphere saying that if you do business with these people, not only will we not do business with you, but we might come after you and your assets with litigation, is going to have a serious negative effect on the economy of that nation, regardless of their ideology. It's all well and good to say "why don't they buy stuff from France or whoever?", but if you've got no capital to buy with because you have no trade and therefore no economy to speak of then what are you going to buy those things with?

Posted by: Edward Teach at September 8, 2009 11:13 AM

> What I said was there are other contributing factors to Cuba being in the shitter

... to which I posed two questions, that you neglected to answer.

> but if you've got no capital to buy with because you have no trade and therefore no economy to speak of

... and WHY IS THAT? Because decadent capitalist refuses to support dictatorship of proletariat? LOL, dude, ROFLMAO!

Your excuses are not just lame, they are ludicrous.

Posted by: Aaron at September 8, 2009 11:58 AM

Truly the socialists have no concept of living by the means and saving.

Posted by: Aaron at September 8, 2009 12:00 PM

How many Americans have risked there lives on the hood of a '57 chevy to row all the way to Cuba? Just askin'.

Posted by: FREE at September 8, 2009 12:27 PM

Edward Teach - Although Cuba would be a hellhole in any case, I actually agree with you about the embargo, on the grounds that the commies could use more capitalism, not less. Mind you, I think it's been relaxed in the last decade. It bugs me, though, that Americans who travel to Cuba, even from a foreign country (e.g. Canada), are liable to prosecution.

BTW am I the only one who thinks Fidel is actually dead? I really do. They're not wheeling him out in public anymore.

Posted by: Black Mamba at September 8, 2009 12:30 PM

> I actually agree with you about the embargo

Another one! God, give me strength!
Do you think that America is strangely under obligation to provide life support to the zombie that's threatening its core values and security?

Posted by: Aaron at September 8, 2009 12:43 PM

Aaron - "obligation to provide life support" - no. That's hardly the same thing as banning trade, which is government overreach and usually hurts the poor (think South Africa during Apartheid). The Nomenklatura never suffer.

Aaron, pretty much everyone here excepting the trolls hates Communism with a passion. I say again - and I stole the line from P.J. O'Rourke - Cuba needs more capitalism.

Nor is Cuba a security threat at this point. The Cuban Missile Crisis was way back. There's no Soviet Union now.

If I were Raoul Castro and his buddies, I'd secure figurhead-change now, during the reign of Chavez' buddy President One-Term.

Posted by: Black Mamba at September 8, 2009 1:43 PM

So the shortages in Cuba don't have anything to do with the US imposed embargo? Seriously guys, you can't endorse a policy such as the embargo, and then point to the problems it causes as being the fault of the leadership of that country. It just doesn't cut it in the logic department.

As for these photos... give me a camera and a travel budget, and I bet you I can find some stuff just as bad in the US of A.

Just so we're clear... I think Fidel sucks the bag. I don't endorse communism, and I think Cuba should hold free elections. Don't go twisting my words when you get your panties in knots.

Posted by: John at September 8, 2009 3:32 PM

"As for these photos... give me a camera and a travel budget, and I bet you I can find some stuff just as bad in the US of A."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/17/AR2007021701172.html

sarge here yer right like at a certain washington DC military hospital only 5 short years ago-rats and sh@t on the floor as sarge recalls. our own troops bein taken care of by our own defunded military hospitals our brave boys being forced to pay for thar own food after bein injured in the line of duty...makes sarge sick yet sarge dont remember any of you boys an girls speakin up about that... sarge also notes that this here website has some serious problems with authenticity. dont think cuba is manufacturing Siemans Heart Mate(tm) monitors...fer instance.

Posted by: sarge at September 9, 2009 3:03 AM

defunded military hospitals = government-run health care the world over.

"Siem[e]ns Heart Mate(tm)" monitors = gift from Comrade Chavez!

Posted by: jwkozak91 at September 9, 2009 4:06 AM

Food and medicines are exempt from the embargo.
The hospitals for tourists have everything that you can find at an American or Canadian hospital.
Those are the hospitals where they took Michael Moore, but Cuban patients are not allowed to get treatment there.
It is not the embargo, is the apartheid system created by the Castro brothers where foreigners are treated like royalty and Cubans are treated like animals.

Posted by: George at September 9, 2009 8:45 AM

Looks like they sewed the left foot back on the right leg.

Posted by: Boss429 at September 10, 2009 8:48 AM
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