Steyn is brilliant and those who think the opposite are weenies. It's really that simple.

The comments are hilarious . . . so many people "upset".

You can bet the various HRC's are working overtime on how many "hurt feeling" crimes have been committed and how many Kangaroo Courts need to convened to nail the guilty bastards to a politically correct cross.

"Why can't I sell a kidney?"

Because we really, really, really don't want a market for human body parts established?

Not -all- regulations are bad, just most of them. Say about 90%.

Besides, pretty soon they'll figure out how to grow 'em from scratch. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Aside from this quibble, Steyn is right. As usual.

I liked this comment:

In our enlightened era, you may be free to pretend you are whatever gender blend you feel like today, but I insist on my right not to buy into your fantasy. The insistence of the gender-confused community for the government to require other people to treat their delusions as reality is handing control of the asylum to the insane. Must I also swear my belief in the veracity of every homeless guy's story of serial alien anal-probing? WTF is going on?

We don't have rights, we have license.

Maybe they should just pass a law that riding a motorcycle gives informed consent for organ donation.

I've got both, a motorcycle and a donor card.

Mark Steyn is very funny and accurate. The alternative lifestyle gang has been scolding conservative prudes for being uptight since the 60's, but now it's the LGBTTIQQ2S communities that get their panties in knot at even the mildest criticism. So today the government restricts free speech, religious expression, business transactions, and economic liberty in the righteous battle to prevent hurt feelings.

Yeah, the comments are quite funny. Funny, but chilling. It is one thing to criticize Islamic fascism. But when you start taking on the LGBTTIQQ2S
lobby, well, as Scott Thompson put it "An angry drag queen is scarier than a minotaur".

The thing I can't figure out however, is why a community whose sun rises and sets on choice, and a person's right to self identify in a way that feels right to them, would have any problem with someone like Mark Steyn self identifying in the way that he feels is right for him?

You can't sell a kidney because that would be trafficking in a controlled substance.

"but I insist on my right not to buy into your fantasy"

Or, as I recall reading somewhere, "I don't care if you think you're Napoleon, we're not giving you an army and a map to Moscow."

Karl, their sun rises and sets on -their- choice. Not yours. You don't get to choose what you want if its different from what they want.

We are stupid, Karl. We must be controlled.

If Kate needs to sell a kidney, maybe we should all be hitting the tip jar a little harder.

Some people are disgusted at the thought of selling a kidney.
But do you know what really disgusts me? People who sell head cheese.

"Maybe they should just pass a law that riding a motorcycle gives informed consent for organ donation."

Or you could just stick to your own business rather than making suggestions about how to control other people's lives just because they make different choices than you do?

"...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defence of custom. But the tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason."

Paine, Thomas.1776. Common Sense

I thought of this line when I looked at a goverment form a client was filling out and where it said gender you could check male, female or undeclared.

The client was appalled and dumbfounded by the "undeclared" option. And I could see his point. So I proceeded to explain, in more graphic detail thann the following, that there were people who wanted their innie turned into and outie (and vice versa). And they felt the need to have legislation changed ot accommodate their identity. We are in Canada after all.

I can only imagine the battle cry for this person or persons on their way to the office of their public official to decry how they have been discriminated against.

"I'm in transition, I need a BOX!"

In the adoption "community", of which I am a member, the child of adoption has the right to know everything possible about their biological parents. For reasons of history, or connections to family, or simple medical history today we must keep all that information available for the child should he or she want it. Unless, apparently, if his or her parents aren't a straight white couple. Where is the protection of child's right to know his or her history if a birth certificate can be faked up to satisfy the delusions of non-biological parents? Why is the well being of the child paramount right up 'til it comes into conflict with "non-traditional" parents right to feel validated by the state? The birth certificate is document of biological history, not a document for self-serving fuzzy feelings regarding the eventual parents of the child.

Personally I exploit every opportunity to write in YES in the box marked SEX......

We are stupid, Rat. They know what's best for us. Be a good comrade and just go along, won't you?

With the abysmally low number of Canadian sperm donors and the increasing frequency of artificial insemination, the probability of unknowingly boinking your first cousin(s) grows alarmingly.
(I'd like to help out but I'm pretty sure wifey isn't onside...)

Sasquatch you just made me spit my OJ on my screen. Thanks! Next time you should enter "yes please" it shows more enthusisam.

Like the Paine quote says "Time makes more converts than reason."

The masses have now accepted a lot of fringe ideologies, behaviors and biologies. No need to get in a tizzy...it is what it is. If you aren't a part of the majority you are a part of the ...what? Right, the minority. Good I am glad we have that figured out.

For the most part we are an accomodating species.
Rights are given out...or more correctly they are legislated. And enacted. So yeah, Paul and Bob and Diane and Betty can have a baby. Not biologically possible, but now socially acceptable.

Just because something is socially acceptable doesn't make it beneficial.

Insert your own examples here_______.

If we as a society want to farm out our bodies, our tissues, our seed and eggs.... and whatever the hell else so be it it is our body after all.

But wait a minute, I might be a responsible person who means no harm to others or society in general, but I sure don't kow my neighbors and what the hell they are doing next door.

...

Or who they have locked up in their backyard, or who they have tied up in their basement. For what purpose...

"Maybe they should just pass a law that riding a motorcycle gives informed consent for organ donation."

Or you could just stick to your own business rather than making suggestions about how to control other people's lives just because they make different choices than you do?

Posted by: Ray K. at August 29, 2009 11:37 AM "

Ray K is obviously a lefturd. Bet he doesn't even see the basic irony and out right hypocrisy in his post.

Daninvan

yes, I think the method of donation may just be a stumbling block:-))))

like some strange dystopian collaboration between Robert Heinlein and Russ Meyer set in a world divided into muff divers and duff donors.

God, is it any wonder I love reading Steyn?

A classic piece by a master wordsmith!!

Was it just me, or did anyone else get the visual of Mark poking (with a finger!!!) Jenny Lynch and Babs Hall continuously as he wrote this?

I've been saying this for a long time now.

To most liberals, "freedom" only means the freedom to do with your crotch what you please. Consequences - including taking the lives of other people, either via abortion or transmitting STDs - be damned. It's all about the "freedom" to have a few minutes' pleasure (then b*tch and moan because you need more free clinics to treat your case of the clap).

Freedom stops there. It does not apply to speech, to religion, to finances, to what you eat or how much you exercise. It's all about the groin.

I can not believe the LGBTTIQQ2S communities are excluding the poly-S communities. And here I thought they were trying to be inclusive.

They can pay me to donate sperm.

I would be making money "hand over fist"

"you could hardly ask for a more poignant fin de civilisation image than a stampede of broody lesbians stymied only by defective semen, like some strange dystopian collaboration between Robert Heinlein and Russ Meyer set in a world divided into muff divers and duff donors."

This made me lawl. A lot.

Best. Line. Ever.

I've no problem with selling kidneys. Hell I can think of at least ten people off the top of my head whose kidneys I'd be more than happy to sell, with or without their consent.

Why can't I sell my kidney? Because that's not altruism. Everything associated with health care must be sacrificial, no profit nor anything that could be construed as profit. Come on, this is Kanada.

One commenter in Macleans pointed out another and possibly more compelling reason for the lack of Canadian sperm donors, the issue of no protection from liability for paternity suits. Only in Kanada!

Viva Steyn!

The Libs must have been really burnt over the banning of paid sperm donors given they're a bunch of d!ickwads

This may have something to do with it. Lesbian couple sues donor for child support.

http://www.proudparenting.com/node/1050

Abortions laws have nothing to do with principles and everything to do with selfishness and lack of personal responsibility. The inconvenience of having a child doesn't stop people from carelessly seeking to have orgasms even it is means killing a living being is the consequence.

As a proud member of the Organ Liberation Front, I object to the neo-Katewerke conspiracy to sell innocent kidneys into a life of slavery and filtration.

Rise up ye Organs! "Free Bladders Everywhere"

Oh wait....

"...Canadian women who conceive through donor sperm are getting it from the United States, mainly from men in Georgia and northern Florida."

Damn, does this mean grits will become a food group in the future Canadian dietary menu?

I hate stories about selling kidneys!! They just piss me off!

Imagine--it's late at night--the door bell rings.

Canvasser: "Hi--we're looking for sperm donors!"

Prospective donor: "Ok--where do I go."

Canvasser: "Our clinic is at 133-4th ave east."

Prospective donor: "Ok, I'll come first thing in the morning."

LGBTTIQQ2S? I read about shepardists&leatherbookenders, but Steyn may have intentionally omitted them. It all makes mere homosexuality seem commonplace..hmm

How to cook kidneys? You boil the piss out of them!

On the matter of abortion, it should be noted that we must pay for them, but we must never pay for fertility treatments for those having problems conceiving, or so some would suggest.

What do you call a cow that's had an abortion?

Decaffinated.

Remember when men and women married each other and kids could relate stories about their dads (whom they could name)? Yeah- those were good times.
I have simple term for LGBTTIQQ2S: freaks. Don't look at me like that. Everybody else on the planet has to get their acts together; they can, too.

why not sell a kidney?

uh, well, uh, can someone look up the term 'precedent' in the legal references?

like the beatles song "money can't buy me love" it seems it can buy EVERYTHING ELSE.

is that what the extreme right wing wants? possession of finances dictates EVERYTHING????

that's what calmer clearer heads are combating.

I have willed my corpse to medical research. I don't want ANYONE to make a nickel off this selfless act.

if that means rich people DIE because they are not permitted to buy parts whilst they are viable maybe, just *maybe* they should advocate for a more caring society.

With the abysmally low number of Canadian sperm donors and the increasing frequency of artificial insemination, the probability of unknowingly boinking your first cousin(s) grows alarmingly.
(I'd like to help out but I'm pretty sure wifey isn't onside...)
~DaninVan

->So we all get registered in a DNA Bank to find out who we are a good match for tissue cannabalism and a bad match for the reproductive aspects of our reproductive tissue.

If we as a society want to farm out our bodies, our tissues, our seed and eggs.... and whatever the hell else so be it it is our body after all.

But wait a minute, I might be a responsible person who means no harm to others or society in general, but I sure don't kow my neighbors and what the hell they are doing next door.

Or who they have locked up in their backyard, or who they have tied up in their basement. For what purpose...
~tigerpants

->Exactly.

Why can't I sell my kidney? Because that's not altruism.
~John G Chittick

->Altruism?
No problem, the government has a plan for your altruism.
Since you came in for an appendectomy, AND we found you were a DNA match for Ted-Born-With-a-Silver-Spoon-in- His-Orifice, and Ted needs your liver, you won't survive your appendendectomy, but Ted is gonna get a lot of miles out of your liver.

Thanks for being a donor and a team player.

[quote]"...Canadian women who conceive through donor sperm are getting it from the United States, mainly from men in Georgia and northern Florida."

Damn, does this mean grits will become a food group in the future Canadian dietary menu? [/quote]Texas Canuck

No.. It means Canadians don't know the difference between States...All donor Sperm comes from West Virginia... no need to say more...

curious_george, you (again) miss the point.

If I may explain Kate's post (as I understand it):

Pro-abortionists claim "it is my body...I am in control of my body...I can do what I want with my body...if I choose to remove a product of my body, that is my business...". And THEN they add (in not so many words) "...so YOU must pay for my abortion procedure!".

So, shouldn't the same argument be made for any other bodily part?

This is just another example of lefties not thinking things all the way thru to their natural conclusions.

By the way, Kate, I'm in the market...what's your blood type and how much will you charge?

Eeyore:

if Kate cites the rationale employed by pro-abortionists to support her point (as you understand it) then the foundation of her arguement is flawed.

because as *I* see it, a woman claiming the underdeveloped individual inside her uterus is merely an appendage, THAT argument is flawed because it is the exception to the rule; in my view which I have held for a considerable time now, the rights of the unborn DO trump the rights of the female that happens out of biological circumstances to be carrying that baby.

I get the point Eeyore, I just don't agree with how it is constructed.

All anti-Steyn comments had one thing in common; they never attacked Mr. Steyn's facts. Reality can be such a bitch for liberals. I am certain that is why they avoid or tamper with it as circumstances dictate.

If you live in a state that has adopted the 2006 Uniform Anatomical Gift Act, it is presumed that you are an organ donor unless they can find information contrary to their assumptions. This change was made expressly to increase the supply of organs, tissue and body parts so that the $20 Billion in annual revenues for organ related medical services could keep growing.

Brain death and donation after cardiac arrest for as little as 75 seconds is becoming the standard in hospitals to start the organ harvesting process.

Removing your name from any list or erasing your consent from your driver's license means absolutely nothing under the 2006 version of the act.

Even if you have a written Advance Healthcare Directive that forbids the use of machines to keep your body alive, they can do so as long as they are talking to your family to give consent to start the organ harvesting procedure.

If you don't express a preference on organ harvesting, your family has to make the decision. Organ Procurement Organizations and Tissue Banks have to follow your instructions if you register your preferences with a known donor registry.

Unfortunately, no state that has adopted the 2006 UAGA has a state donor registry that allows you to register as a "no" or allows donation on condition of just compensation to your family or estate.

If you are one of the estimated 10% of Americans who does not support organ harvesting, you can register your objection and explore your options under the law at http://www.DoNotTransplant.com.