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August 27, 2009

Take Him, Obama

Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!

Lawrence Martin - "...there is still time [to] get the Liberals on board the Obama train."

Rasmussen - "Overall, 50% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Forty-nine percent (49%) now disapprove."

Posted by Kate at August 27, 2009 10:42 AM
Comments

Er, since they're trying to jump on a sinking ship, does this means the Liberals are dumber than rats?

Posted by: KevinB at August 27, 2009 11:28 AM

If the Liberals hitch their wagon to a meteorite they'll make a bigger impact than hitching it to a shooting star.

Posted by: Oz at August 27, 2009 11:48 AM

Catch a falling star
Put in your pocket
Save it for an Iggy day.


Iggy has gone catatonic.Hoist on his own retard.

Posted by: cal2 at August 27, 2009 11:56 AM

I think Lawrence Martin is very naive. I am surprised he has survived so long as a high profile political columnist. It is not the first time his judgment has really seemed very far out.

Posted by: LindaL at August 27, 2009 11:58 AM

Iggy knew that this summer's major political scandal, The Cracker Crisis, was not big enough. He's simply waiting for the CBC/RedStar scandal-making machine to deliver him a something that will give him real traction.

Calm down Libs, give it time, MotherCorp and TrawnaStar will deliver something tangible eventually. Maybe something really tawdry, cheap, and nasty, like lurking in washroom stalls with cellphone cameras.

Posted by: shaken at August 27, 2009 12:02 PM

The 50-49% ratio, either way, is a statistical tie. The gap has to widen. The strongly disapprove vs strongly approve puts Obama in the negative range, but it's the middle zone, that 'approve vs disapprove' zone that is important.

When Obama is on the scene, in Town Halls exhorting his health care, etc, that zone turns negative towards him. This is interesting; it's suggesting that the more visible he is, the less voters approve of him. This is in contrast to his Campaign.

The independents are already lost. And only 27% trust Obama with regard to an economic crisis. And Pelosi has 64% against her.

What this seems to show, and I am totally speculating and musing, is that gap, that split in the Democratic Party.

There's Obama who is The Voice. He's vain, empty-headed, ignorant, malicious and shallow. He simply wants control, power over people and has no agenda other than to put in place a system that gives him such control. He's both manipulative and malleable..he can be told what to think and do by his advisors. That's because he is intellectually ignorant and lazy; he lets others do the work.

There's the BackRoom Gang (BRG) made up of hard core wealthy radical socialists (Pelosi, Reid, Soros, etc) who function as an elite set of Rulers, determined to set up a two-class structure and remove/destroy the middle class of America. They are using Obama as the up-front Charmer to slide their agenda in place.

Then, there's the regular run-of-the mill Democrats, all idealistic and rosy, who simply want to 'do good'. And remain electable and elected.

These three sets are in conflict. Will Obama continue to be the Voice for policies that make him lose his control over people? No. That's why he dithers and changes his mind so often.

And then, the BRG steps in and brings him to heel and tells the people what Obama 'really wants'..which is their agenda. Will the BRG be able to control Obama - whose need for adulation is, to him, more vital than those BRG policies?

And will the ordinary elected Democrat member of Congress be reined in by the BRG to do as that gang wants..rather than what the American people want? Is he afraid of being turfed in the next election?

And there are the people of America. The basic Democrat, who operates more within that run-of-the-mill 'do good' set. The Republicans, who focus on individual rather than societal power. And the growing rank of independents..who want good government but do not want to be controlled by government.

All of these are against the BRG and its totalitarian agenda. Not all are against Obama, who is still seen by many, as a charming do-gooder. Not everyone sees him in the pathological perspective that I - and many others - do.

The conflict emerges when the BRG, who know perfectly well that America doesn't want their socialist system, use the other two agents (Obama as the Charmer; the rank and file Democrat in the legislature)..to get their policies and program in place.

The BRG have to keep Obama emotionally fed and content, with staged Town Halls, constant adulation and strategies that divert American anger.

The strategies of diversion include the Bash Bush programs, but how long can these remain viable?

The forthcoming Kennedy eulogy will be prime time Obama, giving him the non-debative podium that his narcissism requires - and he'll do a resounding speech exhorting everyone to 'pass health care for Kennedy'.

What about the other agendas of the BRG? They are, in foreign affairs, thoroughly socialist and communist, supporting, for example, Zelaya in Honduras rather than the Honduran constitution, supreme court and people; supporting Ahmadinejad in Iran, rather than the Iranian people. And insulting and belittling all of the US's major allies in the West.

Economically, their programs are disastrous, driving up the deficit to catastrophic levels.

Can this agenda of the BRG, using Obama the Charmer and a whipped set of spineless Democratic members of Congress - achieve their goal of removing the middle class in America and setting up a socialist system?

Posted by: ET at August 27, 2009 12:13 PM

The irony really. Wasn't the media forever joining the Dippers and Libs in watching ever so closely to catch Prime Minister Harper so much as looking south ready to pounce on his 'American ways'?
At first Linda I was going to chastise you for being so nice to Martin and calling him naive...but it does fit.
I would have said spaced out. There is a theme forming here.

Posted by: bluetech at August 27, 2009 12:18 PM

Lawrence Martin must know that vast numbers of Canadians (and nearly all Liberals) have been on the Obama train since it pulled out of the station (or just after it derailed Hilary's capacious caboose). They are also far less likely to jump off that train than Americans. Obama doesn't threaten their health care; his Bolivarian foreign policy doesn't threaten their interests; etc. They get to feel the post-racial leg-thrill without the consequences.

Posted by: Roseberry at August 27, 2009 12:33 PM

Ignatieff can read Rasmussen polls, and others for that matter, including Canadian. That's why he's still at the station, watching the Obama "train" pull away, and that's why there won't be an election any time soon. He isn't a fool.

Posted by: MJ at August 27, 2009 12:49 PM

L. Martin is just trading in what he knows, Liberals and US presidents. It is the only thing he can write authoritatively on.

Of course in this case what he misses is that Iggy cant get close to Obama, or going to the US and defending canadian health care without proving all those Conservative ads true. But Larry doesnt think anything the Conservatives do is worth listening to.

Posted by: Stephen at August 27, 2009 2:20 PM

Or we might consider that "tight" connections with the Haaaaavard crew that Iggy bragged about are bullshit.

Posted by: Rob C at August 27, 2009 3:02 PM

I guess Martin believes all those protestors in the States are part of an organized mob and he expects that Obamessiah will resurrect Ted Kennedy any day now. The fact is BO is destroying American institutions daily and Americans are not taking very well to his socialist leanings. However, that doesn't bother Martin. Jump on the train that's about to crash. I'm glad Martin is a Liberal strategist.

Posted by: hollinm at August 27, 2009 3:16 PM

Lawrence Martin asks: "Why isn't Ignatieff courting Obama?"

Could this be the first ever recorded case of Iggy knowing enough not to stick his hand in a meat grinder? Or is he just sleeping?

Posted by: The Phantom at August 27, 2009 4:14 PM

Related post at "Dust my Broom" noting a certain hypocrisy on Mr Martin's part:

"Obamablessing Mickey I."

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Ottawa at August 27, 2009 4:35 PM

Were you to strip out all black respondents to these polls, the number would be lower than 50%. That unfailing kneejerk support is the only thing keeping O's numbers over 49%

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at August 27, 2009 4:36 PM

You beat me to it Kathy...This is so true.

ET, again, stellar analysis on Barry O.

Lawrence Martin is a dinosaur still stuck in the Canadian socialist embrace of the 70's. He still dreams of PET daily.

Iggy is wise to stay away from Barry at this time and this to say that Iggy will never be able to 'use' Barry in the future. Obama is finished IMO...Like one of those planted astroturf nazis said: "You have awaken a sleeping giant".

What is happening in America is actually healthy. Barry's admin, the equivalent of Canada electing the NDP or the almost highjacking by the separatist coalition of last fall has shaken the foundations of the Republic and people who care (Still the majority it seems) are now connected to politics like never before.

The leftist debauchery is over and Conservatism at the grass root level right now is on the rise around the world. It will only intensify if the economy continues to wabble and/or deteriorate.

Posted by: Right Honorable Terry Tory at August 27, 2009 5:24 PM

It doesn't matter what Iggy does, the numbers will not change in a significant way unless there is disastrous news for the Conservatives down the road. Those that are holding-up a Conservative majority will not be swayed, if they could be swayed they'd have been already. Iggy has done nothing, and they're at parity with the Conservatives who have delivered on most of their campaign promises to date.

I will continue to support the Conservatives but I have no misconceptions of a Conservative majority government ever. I can't see any scenario besides a Liberal majority or Conservative/Liberal minorities.JMO

Posted by: Indiana Homez at August 27, 2009 7:21 PM

Yeah, Mr. Martin, let's get the Liberals on board the Obama train -- and see where it takes them. They deserve each other.

Posted by: batb at August 27, 2009 11:01 PM

Did Kate or anyone else here get an invite to sit in the Senate from Steve?

Me neither.

Posted by: foobert at August 28, 2009 1:24 AM

Just for the fun of it, I decided to visit some liberal blogs - one of them was an American Liberal blog.

Wow - them librals are a nasty bunch...seriously. The name calling and profanity was abundant, while facts and anything resembling a logical or well thought out point was like digging for gold in my backyard.

Conservatives have much more class, and come accross as more reasoned. It seems all the opposition can do in response is hurl insults or ridicule. I only posted one or 2 sane comments and you would have thought I was holding them at gun point or something - not a pleasant experience at all, nor did I learn anything about where they actually stand on an issue - frustrating. Its a good thing I am rather thick skinned.

Posted by: No-One at August 28, 2009 3:30 AM

More confirmation of the obvious: US public opinion on President Obama remains pretty well evenly divided.

His apparent sweeping 2008 victory of 365 Electoral College votes to McCain's 173 masks a central reality: he garnered just under 53 percent of the popular vote.*

That makes him hardly more popular than the despised Bush who polled about 51 percent of the 2004 vote!

* The McCain-Palin "trainwreck" still managed to get just under 46 percent.

Posted by: JJM at August 28, 2009 7:26 AM

Has Martin actually tracked BO's numbers? Or, is he expected to pull incongruent happy face jibbering like this out of his butt daily to grease the surplus column space at the Mop and Pail?

These dead tree partisans offer such tedious sophistry, it's understandable reasoning people shun the MSM in droves.

Posted by: Jim at August 28, 2009 7:55 AM

No-one, its an education reading those liberal sites eh?

I can categorize the responses on any subject too. Whenever you disagree with -anything-, they:
1) swear at you
2) call you a homo
3) and finally call you a liar.

If you're dumb enough to back your statement with facts and links they repeat steps 1-3 and then ban you from the comments.

This should come as no surprise, because its just the result of them following the policies they hold most dear. Those being that they are right, that you are stupid, and that you will be made to shut up one way or another.

That's why they are the enemy, and why we work for their defeat.

Posted by: The Phantom at August 28, 2009 12:55 PM

Phantom:

I can categorize the responses on any subject too. Whenever you disagree with -anything-, they:
1) swear at you
2) call you a homo
3) and finally call you a liar.

Sorry, my friend, you have point 2 incorrect. They call you homophobic.

Posted by: KevinB at August 28, 2009 3:53 PM
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