Fixation.

or as Yuul Brenner said in the movie, " So let it be written, so let it be done"

Nope, never. Now we have a NEW Camelot II to put up with.

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"President Barack Obama, of whom he was an active supporter,
said he was 'heartbroken' to hear of his death."

not as 'heartbroken' as the parents of mary jo kopechne, i'll wager.

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What's that about "came a lot?"

Surely they're talking about John not Teddy.

I would think with Ted they're referring to a big stinking pile of "camel plop."

Is this the proper time to bring up the name Mary Jo Kopechne. two assassinated brothers bought this loser a lifetime pass. The world has finally been able to advance one notch ahead this morning. The guy made me sick to look at him.

Mary Jo: "I think I may be pregnant."

Ted: "You can't be sure."

Mary Jo: "No, but I missed my period."

Ted: "Don't fret, Mary Jo. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."

Too dangerous I would think to suggest a game of drinking every time the fawning MSM says the word "Camelot."

The torch has now passed from "camelot" to "spendalot"

Long live the king!

Matt

We'd be drinking more than the Russians.

texan,

If you want to slam Kennedy, go ahead, but could you do it without smearing Mary Jo Kopechne?

There's never been anything to indicate that they were anything other than politician and campaign worker.

So the Dems have another Senate Seat up for sale. Any bids yet?

Just asking...

I do actually extend my condolences to the family. Appreciation of one's political adversaries individually is healthy.

The end of Camelot. We can only hope so.

Did I agree with Edward Kennedy's views? Nope. Do I think he was a great Senator? Nope.

Do I think that he, and his older brothers gave more of themselves than I every will in my lifetime to help their world be a better place.. as much as I may disagree with much of their policy? Clearly.

Perhaps on this day, before your next slick shot at the Senator, ask yourself what You have done to improve your community.

Rob H.

They made the world a worse place. Big difference.

Did someone say Camelot?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGpVcdqeS0

More like the end of bloviates alot.

Democrates just lost their 60 seat filabuster proof senate majority.

Rob H. - FYI thousands, nay millions, of individuals everyday make their community better by the millions of things that they do - from cleaning your elderly neighbour's walkway in the winter to watching out for the kids on the street. It is all of those things that make 'community' not some blowhard politician. And we don't expect anything in return - don't expect the media to fawn over them, don't expect rewards, and we make huge sacrifices without the privilege of Daddy's ill gotten gains to support us. Being a politician is not contributing to a community - particularly when that is ALL that you have done in your life. Some would say the being a politician is something that a community must just put up with!

The Night of the Living Camelot ...

... yup, the Kennedys are a creepy and scary bunch, all the more so because their many crimes and misdemeanors were covered up by an oh-so-lovely gossamer veneer, which they never tried to remove.

Though I pray for the repose of Ted Kennedy's soul and comfort for his family at the loss of a loved husband, father, and uncle, I can't laud Ted Kennedy's civic participation, seeing as he so often took gross advantage of his privilege and position.

In other news, the Chivas Regal corporation files for chapter 11 status having just lost its best customer.

Camels, notorously, stink a lot.
Rob H. - Hilarious! Have you got a million of them? I'd take my garbageman's latest contribution to society over the entirety of Ted Kennedy's career. RIP Mary Jo.

This is part of Ed Kennedy's legacy://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Ted_Kennedy.htm

* Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
* Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
* Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
* Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
* Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)

Another good pro-choice devout "Catholic" meets his maker.

Mary Jo can rest in peace.

This is the guy that was beaten as the POTUS Democratic candidate by Jimmy Carter.

That's Jimma Cartuh.

Mary Jo had no comment.

I think, that since the Kennedys were a seafaring family, that burial at sea would be fitting.

They could put Ted's corpse in a '67 Oldsmobile, and shove it off the deck of an aircraft carrier.

I've never run for office.. but I have been involved, walking door to door, listening to people attack me who didn't even know me, for my own beliefs. I have watched politicans who I have supported, including Stephen Harper, being villified and attacked, because they sought to, in their own way, change the world for the better.. they put themselves out there.

Ted Kennedy lost three brothers as a result of those brothers doing for their country. Ted Kennedy, dying of cancer, could have sat at home for the past year, surrounding himself with friends and family, for his last days - and no one would have criticized him.

He didn't do that. Now - his views I think are ill-conceived and the failure of universal health care is, to a large extent, on the shoulders of Ted Kenned for not supporting the universal health care bill of Richard Nixon, however, he did most certainly give of himself for his country - don't kid yourself.

We flippantly attack politicians - but the reality is that it is a difficult and often thankless job that is easier to criticize than to undertake.

There is a certain loss of humanity in our political world, which results in the ignorant and profane on all sides of the spectrum - and results in a failure to find solutions as compared to an effort to place blame.

Will anyone deny, on this blog, that PM Mulroney grossly erred in his judgment to take gobs of money in brown paper bags from a German dirtbag?

Politicians are human, they make mistakes, they may or may not admit those mistakes - but I'm not quite ignorant enough to believe that the vast majority of all politicians pursue a goal of trying to influence their communities for the better - whether I may agree with them or not.

It's just too easy to create characatures of our enemies, and to dismiss them, and more difficult to acknowledge their humanity and accept their effort as we decline to accept their views.

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"rob h says... gave more of themselves than I every will in my lifetime"

uh-huh... exactly how many women have you drowned, robbie?

"Senator Kennedy killed that girl the same as if he put a gun to
her head and pulled the trigger." -- George Killen, State Police
Detective-Lieutenant

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But no! Camelot endures! Chris Matthews says so.

"MSNBC's Matthews: Barack Is The Last Kennedy Brother" at RealClearPolitics:

http://tinyurl.com/ktqr32

But no! Camelot endures! Chris Matthews says so.

"MSNBC's Matthews: Barack Is The Last Kennedy Brother" at RealClearPolitics:

http://tinyurl.com/ktqr32

Posted by: wuberman
**Is this the proper time to bring up the name Mary Jo Kopechne. two assassinated brothers bought this loser a lifetime pass. The world has finally been able to advance one notch ahead this morning. The guy made me sick to look at him.**
The evil that men do lives after them......

Grok, UTJ: Perhaps Obamelot?

The local CBC early news program in Vancouver almost made me throw up when the female said "there is sad news today that Ted Kennedy died --". I immediately switched stations.

So, there is one less left-wing extrmist: re quasi socialist, in the US. Also, unmarried girls are once again save in Mass.

My question: why would any sane person watch an extreme-left bias affirmative action bimbo on the CBC?

I've been looking for this for years:

http://books.google.com/books?id=OnsNTOTd77UC&pg=PA77&lpg=PA77&dq=Mike+Royko+Teddy+Kennedy+Chappaquiddick&source=bl&ots=ihdCEjKw39&sig=vnzKhP9NAm4UFVQfFhC7lFN01PY&hl=en&ei=oGOVSq7-IoToM9e1ifoH&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

This includes Mike Royko's wonderful column on the adventures of Teddy and his merry Oldsmobile. I remember reading it when it was first published, and it's a good thing to read today.

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"machiavelli says... an extreme-left bias affirmative action bimbo on the CBC"

hmmm... maybe bimbette missed the part where the "national organisation for
women" freaked out... when teddy threw shrillary under the bus to endorse his
buddy barry last year.

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Good riddance to a clan of Elitist Socialists who made their fortunes bootlegging back in the day. The Kennedys are an example of the Irish Mafia legitimizing their business and having great success doing it.

Perhaps their rival Mafia clans (I think they may have been Italian) didn't like the leg up the Kennedys had with one of them being president and all.

Of course with Bobby as attorney General and vowing to shut down organized crime and all, and with the President getting it on with Marlyn who was kinda tied in with some of the unsavory organized crime types ... and with Bobby running for president after John's brains were blown out.

Well, the Kennedys may not be the kind of family you want running the United States of America, but then ... look whose running it now. The Chicago Mafia. Angry tutsoons and nasty buffoons.

Let us all pray.

51 votes to pass the health care fiasco without help is also gone, with the filibster proof 60 votes.
I was watching tv when the news broke, and within minutes the network had numerous friends etc on tv with comments. Who woke all those people up. Is that the 3.00a.m. phone call Hillory was talking about. Apparently she never got called, as it was this morning before she commented.
And it will take an election to get his replacement, due to a law he had changed.
What a difference a day makes must be O's new theme song.

I think the life and passing of Teddy baby is best summed up by my all-time third favorite bumper sticker: "Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns."

Meanwhile,

Michael Jackson is still dead.

Yeah foobert, and I care just as much about Mikey as I do about Teddy.

Well, that's not quite true, I did put Vincent Price's scary laugh from Thriller on my Blackberry as a ringtone. Seemed an appropriate commemoration.

Muahahahahahahaaaaa!

Rob H said:
It's just too easy to create characatures of our enemies, and to dismiss them, and more difficult to acknowledge their humanity and accept their effort as we decline to accept their views.

Whether one accepts Kennedy's political views or not, he was an adulterer, a cheat and a coward.

-His womanizing was legion.
-He was ejected from Harvard for cheating, twice.
-He failed to even attempt to rescue Mary Jo Kopechne from the submerged automobile and didn't even report the incident until the next day.

No matter what his political philosophy was, he was a miserable failure as a man.

Rob H;

Sorry, but I do not believe that the average person motivated to get into politics is driven by a deep desire and concern for me or the community. Most get into it for their own personal enrichment. Nothing wrong with that necessarily, but spare me the BS about how much they care for me.

Most politicians want to live the high life but lack the abilities to go out and achieve it on their own. They need your tax dollars for that. Precious few of them have ever run so much as a lemonade stand in their lives and would not know how, which explains why government is so horribly run.

And four of the top ten searches at Google today?

Mary Jo and various takes on Chappaquiddick

But Jackson's nose is still MIA.

They say never speak ill of the dead. They say if you don't have something nice to say about someone, don't say anything.

So my obit reads:

...

...

The end.

Rob H.

He. Killed. A. Woman.

He's the white OJ, basically.

You're involvement with party politics, even as a volunteer, gives the game away. You actually BELIEVE in all this crap, and are willing to excuse almost everything "for a good cause" (i.e., in order to win.)

All politicians are evil, stupid or crazy. Period. They don't want to "help" people and if they did, they'd be in any OTHER biz but politics.

Eddy was just more famous than most.

The man named his dog Splash, for God's sake. Be it tone deafness or just a black sense of humor, that says all I need to know about the man.

Camelot, Camelot, Camelot.....it's only a model.

In the case of "The Swimmer" I make an exception to my nil nisi bonum rule. The man was a low life scumbag and we are well rid of him.

I wouldn't wish brain cancer on anyone. I wouldn't wish Kennedys on anyone either. America doesn't need a royal family.

Camelot will never die until we dump the remainders in Boston haaahbah and tell them to swim back. (I don't care how many generations it's been. They won't shut up about being "Irish" and I say we take them up on it.)

But what will willy do when he needs an alibi again?
BIHMF

Hear, hear, Kathy. That there is something noble about politics is a myth. There are fewer better examples of the dissonance between that mythology and the reality than this particular case.

Re: The insensitive and senseless comments that have appeared on this page this AM.

"It is impossible to make people understand their ignorance; for it requires knowledge to perceive it and therefore he that can perceive it hath it not."

(Jeremy Taylor, 1613-1637.)

PS: The ignorance is not so much in the comments themselves as in the place and time!! (My opinion.)

Once again--I see another Conservative minority in the future.

Joe Citizen most of us have sensitivities that extend to a poor dead woman as opposed to the useless POS who put her there. Too bad you don't see that. Rather a hugh failing on your part.

PS: It's interesting to note that the front page feature on Last Saturday's National Post revealed that Harper was hovering at 39% in the polls. the first good news we'd (CPC) since the election. That moment--I believe--will be short lived.

A five year old child in kindergarten would know better than to write ingorant statements (IE: The Phantom, gordonkneehill) that serve nothing but to discredit the right.

Hats off to Bob H.

Joe Citizen: once again with the meaningless party politics and "minority govts" and other crap.

All that matters in life is:

Is it TRUE?

If the truth "discredits" any movement, that movement deserves to die.

texan,

If you want to slam Kennedy, go ahead, but could you do it without smearing Mary Jo Kopechne?

There's never been anything to indicate that they were anything other than politician and campaign worker.

Posted by: Kathryn

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Right.

And Michael Jackson just invited numerous little boys into his bed for sleep and nothing more.

He named his dog splash, read this above and just confirmed it. What a jerk, I find it interesting that lefties loved the guy.

Holy shit! Was he convicted of homicide?!? I had no idea.

I posted a link to your Mary Jo Kopechne anniversary thread on HotAir.com, in this thread:
http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=50154
(click my name for the link in case the post eats it)

@2:40 - Neither was O.J. And how many anons are there on this thread? Think of a real fake name, guys.

No anon at August 26, 2009 2:40 PM he wasn't convicted. Despite overwhelming evidence that he was drunk and left her to asphixiate in a car while he went home to sober up and concoct an alibi. The media and the courts gave him a pass. Why don't you try looking it up.

You rightoids sure are bunch of asswipes. Jealous ones at that as well. A person dies; what do you do? Dance and piss on their grave. If that's not enough you drag an innocent into your macabre glee.

The closest you'd be able to come Camelot would be Smirksalot. Who in their correct mind could ever admire the electricity between Laura and the dashing W.

Dont go to Camelot, tis a silly place.

The real tragedy today is the loss of music: a wonderful songwriter passed away at the age of 68.
Ellie Greenwich was the writer of songs such as Leader of the Pack, River Deep Mountain High and Be My Baby, as well as the writer of the broadway musical Leader of the Pack, a story based on her life and relationship with her partner Jeff Barry. She made real contributions to music, and if you ever get the chance to see her play, do so.
If you want to mourn someone today, pick her.

with a guy named Hussein in the Whitehouse , its more like

"Camel Lot"
beasts for sale

gordinkneehill: "I think, that since the Kennedys were a seafaring family, that burial at sea would be fitting."

Now that would cause a dramatic and sudden rise in sea level. Wasn't predicted in computer models, either.

Shaken Can't piss on his grave, he isn't buried yet.If I do I'll be sure to get PET's on the way to Arlington. It's a shame he goes where heroes sleep.

Joe Citizen @2:10

Is it true that you are really Joe Clark? You sure sound like him. Minority government and all.

Few phrases get my dander up more than "public service".
I can only accept it when used in this sense: John serviced Mary. Or, come to think of it, John serviced John would be more apt.

Truly amazing the smart -- or should I say, emotional -- folk who sincerely believe that these Higher Purpose Persons actually get out of bed in the morning thinking about how they can better mankind instead of thinking about how they can better their own self interests.

My kingdom for a universal acknowledgement and understanding of rational self interest! My kingdom for a wider public understanding of "public choice economics"!

I gasped at the cat in the video who said, "when you think of Meals on Wheels" that's Ted Kennedy -- as if, old folks would starve in their homes absent government compassion and as if government itself wasn't the prime cause of poverty.

I bet there are more than a few old IRA terrorists crying in their beer for an old mate in pubs throughout Northern Ireland right now.

Obviously, some folks out here did not growup with Prince Teddy from Camelot.

May you rest in peace Mary Jo Kopechne.
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Matt

We'd be drinking more than the Russians.

Posted by: Woodporter at August 26, 2009 11:17 AM

Nobody drinks more than the Russians, think Black Market.
,

A person dies; what do you do? Dance...

I'm mourning that Mary Jo Kopechne and her family never got justice.

I'm mourning for whatever's left of the innocent soul that young Edward Kennedy was born with, if there's still a tiny spark of that soul under all the corruption. (I occasionally marvel at the thought that once there was a newborn baby named Adolf who looked at the world through innocent eyes... how does a person journey from man to monster?)

And I'm mourning Rose Friedman, who died earlier this week.

Arthur's Camelot and Kennedys' Camelot - Both unprovable myths.

The only higher purpose Ted Kennedy served was that otherwise and at another time and place known as the Divine Right of Kings.

The big OWE needed something to take the heat off of his ruinous Health Care Plan,and Teddy obliged! What devotion! Pfffttt. Just one more Irish mafia punk for the worms.Or maybe they could fire him up? With all the alcohol,shoud be able to heat his mansion for a year.

Considering he was a drunk that murdered an innocent woman why should I mourn the loss of the piece of shite? He was born into wealth and priviledge they all were and they used their money to build personal empires whilst pretending to men of the people tirelessly working in Public Office gag me with a spoon. Hoe mongers, drunks with shallow morals and no ethics, excuse me but I just don't care. As for the dead guy, they don't need to embalm him he's got enough booze in his DNA he'll never rot or decay.

It's to bad the bleeding hearts feel no sorrow or remorse for the young woman who died, typical of the loopy upside down logic crowd to bestow admiration and fawn over the criminal whilst spitting in the face of the victim.

not stirred enough - You ain't seen nothing yet. The Leftosphere will go absolutely apeshit with glee the day George W Bush dies.

O'Narcissist: "I've profited".

Translation: THWTK. Me, Myself, and I lOve Me, Myself, and I.
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"Allies and Adversaries React to Kennedy's Death

"Even as he waged a valiant struggle with a mortal illness," President Obama said about Senator Edward M. Kennedy, "I've profited as president from his encouragement and wisdom."
(NYT)

I wonder if Kennedy is in hell yet, shovelling coal for all eternity for what he did to Mary Jo Kopechne?

Did he get a free pass on MJK? Absolutely
Did he ride the family coattails? Again Yes.
Should he have been charged re:MJK? See above.
Will the MSM coverage be over the top? Olbermann and Maddow may not make it through their telecast tonight.

I am no fan of Edward Kennedy, or any of the hypocrites that constitute "Americas Royal Family". That being said, I will not denigrate any family in mourning regarding the loss of loved one by participating in character assassination.

I was PO'd last week when those on the left chose to take the opportunity to slag Robert Novak after his passing. I had hoped that many on the right would be above that, sadly I am mistaken.

Thanks but no thanks Teddy for your policies. Thanks but no thanks for your moral compass (or lack thereof). Thank you, however, for putting yourself in the public domain to attempt to make this world better ( however misguided, I beleive it to be).

I will not be a judge, and fortunately no one on this board will be the judge of me. Since he is a "devout" Catholic he will now be facing the ultimate judge and I wish him the best.

Let us criticize his politics ( And I will), his lack of moral judgement and his hypocrisy as we move forward, today is just not the day. People have lost a father & grandfather and for that I am truly sorry.

There's also this strange business of Ted making very friendly with Andropov and the KGB during the Reagan presidency.

May Mary Jo be kicking his ass around Valhalla right now...

If I were the Catholic church I would refuse to bury him.

KenAinCGY - agree with you totally. He died, so let's show a little respect, whether he deserved it or not. No point in looking classless when one doesn't have to.

We all know the MJK story, she and the surrounding events are not forgotten, so there is no real need to trot that out today. We know, and will not forget, and we know what it means for his legacy.

I don't know *really* what he did in the Senate, I just hear laudatory things on the news, but that never tells the full story anyways.

(With the death of truly evil people like John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, however, I'll crack open a beer anytime.)

So, if someone asked me, I would really have nothing to say about him today.

I note that the CBC can't even be bothered to give Mary Jo Kopechne name but refers to her as a twenty-eight year old woman. Funny that.
I also note that the article says she was dead when teddy ran away. Funny they should should say that when people who were actually involved in the recovery of Mary Jo's body say she was probably alive, slowly dying from oxygen starvation, hurt, cold, wet, scared and very alone. Burn in Hell Teddy along with all of the people who praise you. Pus bags all.

An interesting article on the selective memory of the press http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/26/mary-jo-kopechne-and-chappaquiddick-americas-selective-memory/

The classy thing to do IMO ...............................would be offering condolences to his survivors. And then STFU until there's a good reason to do otherwise.

Kennedy was vastly overrated and hardly a saint.

I don't accept this notion that because he recently passed away you cannot criticise him, yet a week from now it's fine to do so.

Either you liked him or you didn't. His death doesn't change that.

If you flew a plane over his home today with a banner saying "Good riddance" that might be lacking in class.

But putting your opinion on a blog - there's nothing wrong with that.

Offtopic, but there's a poll about Barack for any US citizens interested:


http://news1.newsmax.com/obama/?PROMO_CODE=7870-1&gclid=CKTv9aGswpwCFSBN5QodYVr9mw

OMMAG, its true that would be the classy thing. But I don't have much use for his survivors either, and when was the last time any of those leftist pr1cks showed any class whatsoever?

They are the enemy. When they die, be happy.

I'll bet Hillary is in full party mood tonight after Teddy threw her under the bus during the campaign.
Seems like every time a Clinton opponent speaks out, they end up dead soon after.

not stirred enough said at, said: "...A person dies; what do you do? Dance and piss on their grave."

Why yes my dear stirred. We are. Does that annoy you?

Job done!

ARTHUR: Well, on second thought, let's not go to Camelot -- it is a rather silly place.

Knights of the round table: Right!

Machiavelli My question: why would any sane person watch an extreme-left bias affirmative action bimbo on the CBC?

jumping to a wrong assumption. It was CBC radio while I was driving. Their morning program is good.

Erik Larsen:
We all know the MJK story

What remarkable faith you have. Mary Jo's death was just over 40 years ago. Do you seriously think anyone under the age of 30 has ever heard of her? My two daughters had no idea what had happened until I told them. ("Eeeww, gross" my 15 year old responded.)

That said, I think calling him a murderer, etc. is a little over the top. I'm no lawyer, but I think the most he could have been charged with was criminal negligence causing death.

How does that old Roy Clark song go? Something like "

Thank God and Greyhound he's gone."

Kevin B - interesting comment, thanks.

I wonder how much of the Kennedy family lionization was time period dependent. I just asked my daughter if she had ever heard of any of the Kennedys - nope was her answer.

I think the media love to get invited to the right parties, and hang out with all of the cool people, and therefore journalists nurture those relationships, and tend to lose their objectivity. (And who would seem cooler to MSM folk, Kennedys, Obama [endorsed by Tiger Beat!], or McCain, a guy who is a war hero with a distinguished record of actual public service, not self-service?)

In one of those articles above, it said that Diane Sawyer couldn't show up to work for two days after JFK Jr died. Good grief.

tedwad knew for a year fe was dying, thus he had a year to speak up and accept resposibility for the death of MaryJo, he didn't, so why would some fools think we should not condemn the drunk in strong terms?????

Rob H. Re: "It's just too easy to create characatures of our enemies, and to dismiss them, and more difficult to acknowledge their humanity and accept their effort as we decline to accept their views."
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Very nicely put. I agree with you. Does anyone actually know the details of the Kopechne story such that they feel confident about passing judegment on this man? Presumably the courts let him off. Regardless, it is not the only thing defining his life. Nor should it be.

Perhaps on this day, before your next slick shot at the Senator, ask yourself what You have done to improve your community.

I gave a double unit of plasma and a single unit of platelets at Stanford's blood center earlier today. Now that I've justified myself, let me observe that:

Teddy Kennedy's conduct the night of July 18, 1969, may or may not rise to the level of murder. It is about as certain as it can be, however, that Mary Jo Kopechne would have had a substantial chance of surviving had he gone immediately for help.

Teddy Kennedy's behavior for the forty years since then has been marked by habitual drunkenness, philandering on a weekly basis if not more frequently, and frequent groping of waitresses and others.

Teddy Kennedy kept Robert Bork, one of the best-qualified nominees ever for Supreme Court Justice, from being confirmed by making one of the most hate-filled and baseless speeches in the history of the United States Senate (and that's going some).

Does anyone actually know the details of the Kopechne story such that they feel confident about passing judegment on this man? Presumably the courts let him off.

He was never tried, nor even charged. The smart money says that the Kennedys leaned on the Chappaquiddick police department. I feel safe in claiming that, had somebody like me indulged in identical behavior, I would have been convicted of a felony.

stay classy small dead animals.

*geesh*

For all those suffering from moral bankruptcy why don't we watch sqirmy ted lying his way out of it. Note at 20 seconds how Teddy throws out the morality of Mary Jo, as well as the other boiler-room girls, before describing the almost heroic efforts he made to rescue the poor drowning girl! Watch the whole nauseating thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hdhLG0g6A

I've used this description before.
Ted Kennedy was a perogy.

white
rather swollen ,
puffy,
smooth but greasy
and all in all fairly tasteless.

If for a moment we can forget politics, the Kennedys and Mary Jo Kopechne, let's go back to July 18, 1969. I was 20 years old then, and one of my favorite passtimes was reading "True Detective" magazines, much to my Dad's chagrin. Trust me that we heard about that scandal for years after.
Kennedy left a party late that night with a young woman in his vehicle. Allegedly, he was driving her to her hotel. (Keep in mind that wherever they were going was irrelevant to the accident.) He arrived at a small bridge with no rails, no lights and no reflectors to mark the edges of the crossing. The bridge was at an angle with the road.
The car's brakes had been applied, the tires had skidded, the marks were visible the next day. The 1967 Oldmobile drove off the edge of the road, flipped on it's roof into 10-15 feet of water. Kennedy swam to safety, he later testified that he assumed that the girl had done the same. He also testified that he had (later) tried to swim back to the car, however he was unable to rescue her.

That was in 1969. Drinking and driving, unfortunately, was not the serious offence that is it is today, and almost impossible to prove if no blood test was made available. Investigating such an accident would have involved one or two highway patrol officers, a few measurements would have been taken, along with a statement from the driver; that would have been the end of the case. No autopsy was ordered on Kopechne's body, the case was closed. Kennedy pleaded guilty to having left the scene of the accident, he received a suspended sentence. I think we also have to keep in mind that whatever happened before and after the accident in this case is irrelevant, the cause of the accident was an unmarked crossing, the cause of death was accidental drowning.

Granted that Kennedy was a US Senator. However I challenge anyone to find similar cases where an ordinary driver would have been charged with any more than Kennedy was, and in a similar situation, especially given the fact that the bridge was unmarked, if not unsafe.

Silicon Valley Jim your comment gives me hope for mankind. Thank you.

Joe Citizen your comment gives me faint hope for mankind.

Hopefully the Jim's of the world are, in the long term, victorious.

TJ: Call me when George W dies--we'll finish the discusssion!

How sweeet Joe Citizen. Lets sing the blues for poor ol'ted!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ0quaWNz0Q&feature=related

That's a pretty pathetic whitewashing of Ted's actions that night and the next day, Joe Citizen.

I especially like the use of the passive voice, as when the 1967 Oldsmobile, of its own volition, drove off the bridge.

Now that Ted Kennedy has crossed over to the other side he remains busy.

The first name on his appointment list is the name "Mary Jo Kopechne"

According to Mary she has some questions she has been dying to ask him .

gee joe citizen.....as an Irish catholic my spider sense told me 35 years ago that the 'swimmer' was an asshole and a cowardly poltroon...and a fortunate son...plus a bloated bloviating piss tank....have i missed anything ?

i tell you joe..why don't you read mike royko's observations from that era ?...you just might learn something...

john begley:

Having "True Detective" magazine or "National Enquirer" paint the headline, "Ted Kennedy drunk" does not constitute a conviction. The truth is that you and many others are bringing forth false accusations against Kennedy. He was charged and convicted with leaving the scene of the accident, (obviously,) he was NOT charged and/or convicted of manslaughter, impaired driving etc.

Too bad he wasn't Republican--you people could exhonerate him, post humously!

Annie Madsen:

You wrote: "The first name on his appointment list is the name "Mary Jo Kopechne."

A lot less work than having to look for 60,000 Iraqui souls!

God Bless them all! Irishmen included!

He was charged and convicted with leaving the scene of the accident, he was NOT charged and/or convicted of manslaughter, impaired driving etc.

Under Massachusetts law, being convicted of leaving the scene of an accident means a MANDATORY sentence of 20 days in jail of which he spent ZERO time.

The Grand Jury that was supposed to investigate further charges was a kangaroo court set up to merely imitate a Grand Jury, but never given one's powers, so as to cool public opinion and end further investigation.

Frustrated Grand Jurors Say It Was No Accident Ted Kennedy Got Off Easy
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20120819,00.html

Annie Madsen:

You wrote: "The first name on his appointment list is the name "Mary Jo Kopechne."

A lot less work than having to look for 60,000 Iraqui souls!

God Bless them all! Irishmen included!

Sorry--that should read Arnie Maden, not Annie Madsen. My apologies.

And by the way, isn't Kennedy dead??

Arnie Masden--I'll get it right yet. Had a bad day. The RF brake on my 67 Olds locked up. Just kidding!!

"A lot less work than having to look for 60,000 Iraqui souls! "

Ah,cmon Joe. Even a brain dead lefturd like you must know Saddam killed WAY more Iraqis(not to mention Kurds) than 60,000!

Arnie Madsen--see I did get it right!

However I challenge anyone to find similar cases where an ordinary driver would have been charged with any more than Kennedy was, and in a similar situation, especially given the fact that the bridge was unmarked, if not unsafe.
~Joe Citizen

Ted Kennedy knew the bridge.
Several members of the party, including Kennedy, had been driven to the beach that day to go swimming, and the bridge was illuminated by the porch lights of 2 nearby homes. It was also a clear moonlit summer night.

The party of people had only 2 cars, Kennedy's own family sedan and a compact that had been rented.
Kennedy, therefore, had been driven to the beach across that very bridge earlier in the day in that same car.

Most folks forget Camelot was a failure. The Queen had an affair with a knight. The King went nuts burning her. His Kingdom came apart from his own infidelities.If not obsesions. By his illegitimate son Modred, in concert with the witch addled jilted Mother.
Its a cautionary tale of how Utopia is always defeated by the imperfections of men & their passions.
JMO

More eulogizing in the New York Times this morning:

But interviews with close friends and family members yield a portrait of a man who in his final months was at peace with the end of his life and grateful for the chance to savor the salty air and the company of loved ones.

“I’ve had a wonderful life.” “Every day is a gift.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/the-end-of-consensus/article1266022/

From Obama's remarks: “His ideas and ideals are stamped on scores of laws and reflected in millions of lives …”

Though I might admire a man who faces his death with equanimity as, apparently, Ted Kennedy did, I feel a sharp jerk and a moral recoil when reading certain phrases:

Reading that Ted was "grateful for the chance to savor the salty air and the company of loved ones," I couldn't help think of Mary Jo, who had the chance of both joys snuffed out at the age of 24. Ted had the gift of 52 more years.

When Obama says, “His ideas and ideals are ... reflected in millions of lives …” I couldn't help think of the millions of lives that never made it past a few months in the womb because of the prevalence of abortion in the U.S. (about 1.5 million/year), always championed by every-day-is-a-gift-Ted.

There are way too many aspects of Teddy Kennedy's life that just don't match up: Compare his oft-voiced "I've had a wonderful life" with the voiceless echo, "I've had no life" from victims of abortion and MJK.

Correction to above post: G&M link should be

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/us/politics/27year.html?th&emc=th

The MSM is without a doubt contemptable, watching the news this morning lian Brian said something akin to "He was a decent man without a mean bone in his body." Digest that for a moment.

Okay does a man who hasn't a mean bone in his body leave a dying woman alone in her watery grave and go home and not report the accident (if it were an accident) until the next day? Does a good man toss aside a human being and not bother calling for medical or police help? Face it gals under the modern left dogma we are desposable when one of their rich elites need to be protected. I might as well carry around a garbage bag in future, when the left decide I have no value as a female because I'm an inconvenience to one of their male elites I can simply be ordered to jump in the trash bag and despose of myself.

Thanks MSM and leftards for finally convincing ME you people do not have a modicum of ethics, morality and decency. Mary Jo was desposable and drunken ole Ted a hero. Who shall the MSM be shilling for in the future, odes to rapists and serial killers? I'm not joking.

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/012071.html

At this time I would like to direct Joe Citizen and the other Useful Idiot Leftists praising Ted "the Swimmer" Kennedy to Blazing Cat Fur's experience at the hospital last night with his mum. See thread above.

Let us not forget that Ted's legacy is one of working tirelessly for Single Payer health care in the USA since the 1970's. It was his most devout wish to dismantle the private care system of the USA (which kept him alive this past year at vast expense) and visit Cat Fur's experience upon every American citizen.

Juxtapose that, boys.

Posted by: Maureen at August 26, 2009 11:51 AM

Well-put, Maureen.

"A person dies; what do you do? Dance and piss on their grave"

Good thinking, that. I think that right-ish blogs should treat the death of ted kennedy with the same respect and reverence as was devoted by the leftoid blogs at the death of Ronald Reagan.

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm

And speaking of the alternate universe of leftoid blogs, here's a keeper:

HuffPo on "What Would Mary Jo Have Thought of Ted's Career".

... "maybe she'd feel it was worth it"

No problem Joe Citizen , can you imagine what I went through trying to spell words like Kopechne and Chappaquiddick ? Times like that I wish more people were named Joe . Thanks.