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August 18, 2009

That Wet Flapping Sound You Hear In The Distance

...is the air going out of the left's balloon.

Not bad work, for a Palestinian guy from Chicago.

From the comments - "Politicians, and especially you "professional" journalists out there take note of how quickly this image went viral - forget why, for a moment, if that is possible for you intellectual giants in the print news industry - and think how. And you clowns still think you control public opinion?"


Posted by Kate at August 18, 2009 12:22 AM
Comments

This fellow will be fine once he emerges from a few learning moment in one of "THE ONES" re-education camps or a visit from O's union buddies.

Posted by: Rob C at August 17, 2009 11:45 PM

Those comments of outraged leftists in the LA Times blog?

Priceless.

Posted by: Drained Brain at August 17, 2009 11:45 PM

The dude's last comment: "Who said socialists were evil?"

Well, I'll say it. True socialists anyhow - EVIL. Scary evil. Mega villan type evil. The worst kind of evil.

Posted by: batman at August 18, 2009 12:14 AM

SDA: still grasping at straws.

Posted by: bleet at August 18, 2009 12:30 AM

Straws of truth bleet...you might want to remember that.

Syncro

Posted by: syncrodox at August 18, 2009 12:39 AM

So, bleet - what do you like so far about Obummer's six months as TOTUS? He has been found out! More and more people are saying "OMG I thought this guy was actually bright - that not only could he speak brilliantly but could also deliver! Ever have a lover like that?

Turns out that when the teleprompter turns off - he hammers and stammers much like Ralph Cramdon of the Honeymooners did when he finds out that he was wrong.

Posted by: a different bob at August 18, 2009 12:45 AM

I think if one places their ear up close to a sheep, and listens closely while a socialist has his way with it, you will hear "bleet".

Posted by: marc in calgary at August 18, 2009 12:46 AM

Wasn't the LA TIME's & every lefty on the planet calling this poster racist? Funny how they didn't pose that question to the artist in the interview?...I wonder why?

Posted by: Dave in Guelph at August 18, 2009 12:53 AM

The guy who created the picture is far-left and supported Kucinich in the primaries.

And this is supposed to be mortifying for the left...how?

Bring back the treat-refusing dog, Khate!

That'll show'em!

Posted by: bleet at August 18, 2009 1:15 AM

Portrait of the Toxic Al Capone. A satirical masterpiece? Fourghet-abowt-et...

Posted by: Martin B. at August 18, 2009 1:15 AM

Only sheep "bleet"

Posted by: Doug at August 18, 2009 1:15 AM

Portrait of the Toxic Al Capone. A satirical masterpiece? Fourghet-abowt-et...

Posted by: Martin B. at August 18, 2009 1:15 AM

"bleet" some more little sheep.

Just pay attention or a wolf might come and bite you in the ass while you think you are being so clever.

Posted by: Doug at August 18, 2009 1:21 AM

Funny, I don't associate the picture with The Joker.
More like a cannibal, or someone out of Apocalypse Now.
Guess that's racism showing its nappy head....

Posted by: eastern paul at August 18, 2009 1:25 AM

I think the picture of Obama is disrespectful, derogatory, and in very poor taste. And I'm a card holding Conservative. Imagine what the left thinks of you! And you wonder why people vote Liberal! It's this kind of behavior that keeps us in the minority section!

Posted by: Joe Citizen at August 18, 2009 1:25 AM

I think the picture of Obama is disrespectful, derogatory, and in very poor taste. And I'm a card holding Conservative. Imagine what the left thinks of you! And you wonder why people vote Liberal! It's this kind of behavior that keeps us in the minority section!

Posted by: Joe Citizen at August 18, 2009 1:26 AM

marc in Calgary, LOL. We here that sound in Saskabush quite often.

Posted by: Ken at August 18, 2009 1:26 AM

RAAAACIST!!!

Posted by: wingwalker at August 18, 2009 1:40 AM

RAAAACIST!!!

Posted by: wingwalker at August 18, 2009 1:42 AM

Joe

An almost identical piece that ran in the New Yorker a year ago depicting Bush as the Joker was hailed as art.

The irony here on so many levels obviously escapes your synapses and as such I will resist the inclination to insult your artistic sensibilities.

You may want to dummy up though.

Syncro

Posted by: syncrodox at August 18, 2009 1:43 AM

Dan Calabrese at North Star Writers Group (http://www.northstarwriters.com/dc308.htm) hits the nail square on the head when he refers to the "big empty" as a bullshitter.

Its so true.

Posted by: Horny Toad at August 18, 2009 1:54 AM

Politicians, and especially you "professional" journalists out there take note of how quickly this image went viral - forget why, for a moment, if that is possible for you intellectual giants in the print news industry - and think how. And you clowns still think you control public opinion?

Posted by: shaken at August 18, 2009 4:29 AM

The thing I find interesting about this article is that it was just a kid following a photoshop tutorial with no real agenda, and countless people are still being overly critical of him because he defaced "The One" ...

Posted by: NoOne at August 18, 2009 6:47 AM

same picture was done with bush for a u.s. publication.

Posted by: old white guy at August 18, 2009 7:16 AM

GOOD Picture & factual

The Socialist's attack on US Medicare, which has been deducted as payroll taxes (Federal Insurance Contributions Act.) FICA since 1966, is not going to be tolerated. The Socialists have been using the Payroll SS/Medicare fund to pay for every social program they can’t pass in Congress.... It’s become the equivalent of “United Way” for social programs.

The SS/Medicare funding has been stolen from those that paid. Disability, illegal aliens, Child Medicaid all find money in the SS/Medicare fund. The existing benefits paid out to legitimate recipients have been reduces by at least an order of magnitude (10X)

The savings mythologies presently employed for Medicare are blatantly discriminatory. They simply reduce the payments to doctors & hospitals to 76% of billing. This results in unavailable access (not open to new patients) for the elderly to the best clinics. The Medicare patients are second class (its like traveling by flying Standby) for health services.

The old folks are scheduling BUS tours to reconnoiter the home of the snake (enemy). Black Rock, 30 Rock, and the Meadowlands are leading destinations....We are not some dumb ME twits that think the MSM are friendly


Posted by: Phillip G.Shaw at August 18, 2009 7:33 AM

How racist for him to be up on stage performing in "whiteface"!

It doesn't matter that his entire campaign is one big minstrel show.

Posted by: POWinCA at August 18, 2009 7:52 AM

How racist for him to be up on stage performing in "whiteface"!

It doesn't matter that entire campaign is one big minstrel show.

Posted by: POWinCA at August 18, 2009 7:52 AM

The wet flapping sounds you're hearing are the dying gasps of conservatism. That of the pompous rightoid windbags desperately clutching and grabbing anything that remotely disparges the left as they descend into the deep dark dank bottomless pit.

Or maybe it Malkin's lips vibrating in that constant hot air emanating from her mouth.

Anyways, the doodlings of a bored college student makes for interesting discussion when your misguided bias is all you've got.

Posted by: not stirred enough said at at August 18, 2009 8:11 AM

From the L.A. Times: "You really want to think twice about going after a political commenter," said Corynne McSherry, a senior staff attorney at the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation, a nonprofit organization that defends digital rights).

Well, you'd think so. But that didn't stop W*rm*n and the CHRC cabal, did it?

bleet: "The guy who created the picture is far-left and supported Kucinich in the primaries.
And this is supposed to be mortifying for the left...how?"

It exposes the left as the (reverse) racists they are: Here is Firas Alkhateeb, a dark-skinned Palestinian (not a fair-haired, blue-eyed Republican) criticizing the Great O, and we don't hear the hue and cry being raised which there would have been had a fair-skinned dude done the Photoshopping. I'm not hearing "off with his head," are you? He's actually being praised for his artistic flair.

If this ObamaJoker had been photoshopped by someone on the right, the usual suspects would pile on and say, yeah, figures; what a racist. When someone on the left critizes the Obamessiah using such a dark image, the message seems to be, nothing to see here folks -- hey, the artist has talent -- move along.

It's clear, however, that all is not well in Demo-La-La-Land when a leftie can see so clearly what kind of guy is occupying the White House.

Posted by: batb at August 18, 2009 8:18 AM

Can I just say this is particularly hilarious, and exactly what I expected?

Posted by: Amy P. at August 18, 2009 9:11 AM

Not stirred enough. Please have fun at your poly sci 101 class. What you classify as "conservatism" is far from dead. You are however, correct on one point.The pompous gas bags bloviating on the left and there are plenty, take your pick. Reid, Pelosi, Clinton, or please, please bring back idiot Joe Biden. All jabbering the same sort of message. The population is becoming more and more disturbed with it each and everyday on there own. You don't get it? Or any of the commentators on MSLSD, CNN, NBC,ABC,CBS. Try the forehead, Paul Begala if you want to throw up. Hopefully all are indeed descending into the bottomless pit. The poster of the "Big Empty" is far more accurate that perhaps you care too admit.

Posted by: 1talkinghead at August 18, 2009 9:22 AM

Hey bleet google bushjoker. I guess you and your ilk think that's OK because it isn't "THE ONE" Pull your head out of your a$$ ya hypocrite clown.

Posted by: Rob C at August 18, 2009 9:24 AM

I think a key problem with the Obama administration, apart from its rabid socialist ideology, is the lack of leadership at the Executive and senior Administrative level.

Obama is not a leader; he's a salesman. Of himself. That's all he can do, and all he must do. He requires the adulation and accolades of an adoring audience. Daily and constantly. He needs to feel that he controls others.
He's not interested in the infrastructure of the American economy, health care, national security - nothing.

Senior administration have a different agenda; the socialization of America.

This means that there's a gap in the governing of the country. Who is making the policies? Obama is quite happy to hand over this task to Pelosi, Reid and others. But he's not happy with dissent and rejection.

How long can his Administration keep Obama as the Salesman, keep him feeling adored, prevent his anger at dissent - and, get their socialist policies through?

Posted by: ET at August 18, 2009 9:25 AM

ET - you nailed it. I really thought Obama had a keen intellectual capacity and the potential to be a unifier. Unfortunately he is a leftist who was raised by conservative mid-westerners and who knows what to say to appease conservatives all the while promoting a leftist agenda. Can't even stand to hear him speak anymore.

Posted by: imapopulistnow at August 18, 2009 9:39 AM

1talkinghead,

I have to agree with several of your points; there's no shortage of pompous windbags on the left and maybe my knowledge is at the polysci 101 level.

The left, however, knows how to laugh at itself and allows criticism of its prominent celebrties. Witness the joker flap, its only rightoids that are serious about this.

The right on the other hand is far too serious and too full of its own self importance. Both character flaws which keep it from rising or reaching its full potential.

Personally I would like to make the move to the right of the bench but can't relate to attitude.

Posted by: not stirred enough said at at August 18, 2009 9:40 AM

Debt and deficit are the top concerns of Americans and will remain so for the next few decades. Their patience with leaders who want to talk about and act on anything else is running out.

The politician(s) who starts to focus on it and start providing answers as to how the country can get out of the mess will get a very large audience. If it is simply a 'increase taxes' meme they will be cast aside. If it is a 'cut spending, reform the tax code and drastically reduce regulation' meme then they will get support from almost every political corner.

Obama looks to be talking himself into lame duck status by Christmas.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at August 18, 2009 9:47 AM

"That of the pompous rightoid windbags desperately clutching and grabbing anything that remotely disparges the left as they descend into the deep dark dank bottomless pit."
Not Stirred Enough

That is Sooooooooo ironic coming from a leftard like you, Stirfry.

Because, that's all the leftosphere do day in and day out, is dig up some dirt to fling at the right. Remember Sarah Palin.

Ironic is that the MSM did a lot of digging to find who was behind the picture only to be dissapointed it was'nt some southern white hick.
Too bad they did'nt do any digging on vetting their black Jesus otherwise he might not be so increasingly embarrassing for them to protect as he would unlikely be POTUS today.
Like Zach Lahn (The new right wing hero for this week who zapped Obama with a REAL question last Saturday) said to Wolf Blitzer of CNN who tried to portray Lahn as an angry Conservative by exposing his political affiliation:

"I don't see how my political position reduces the validity of my question...I wish the media would of done some more research on Obama instead"
(Not in those words but that was what Lahn was voicing IMO)

I which I could find the Blitzer interview, the only ones out there I can find are the ones from FOX and MSNBC...Google the MSNBC one; Lahn really takes on the hostess.

Posted by: Right Honorable Terry Tory at August 18, 2009 9:52 AM

NSE, Bleet, etc.

Are you retarded? Seriously.

It was the left who flew into a rage about the obama joker thing - not the right. They screeched about how racist it was and blamed the poster on evil white racist conservatives. Now that the real "artist" has been found out to be a minority, Palestinian (presumably muslim) far-lefty, you are still blaming... us.

Did you miss the left's Bush/Joker? Did you miss that scummy photographer's photoshoot where she took advantage of Cheney and then photoshoped the pic to make him look like some kind of demonic creature with blood dripping out of his mouth?

So I ask again, are you retarded? Did you not get the point of this thread? Or are you just illiterate?

I keep saying we need a higher calibre of troll around here. The lot we have are lame.

Posted by: Jason at August 18, 2009 10:01 AM

It's surprising that the Left are appalled by this picture and call it racist, etc. However, put a crucifix in urine or a statue of the Virgin Mary in feces they call it art. Perhaps, our Leftist brothers and sisters can't differentiate between the two. By the way, I'm not saying the pic of Obama is art. I prefer stuff by Robert Bateman.

Posted by: favill at August 18, 2009 10:09 AM

"This means that there's a gap in the governing of the country. Who is making the policies? Obama is quite happy to hand over this task to Pelosi, Reid and others. But he's not happy with dissent and rejection."
ET

Obama's narcissism might be his biggest weakness afterall. As he's loosing the health care debate and thus his personal popularity plummeting, it was funny to hear CNN say that the Prez will only be concentrating on Afghanistan and Iraq today. The only area of his administration that has the support of a majority of Conservatives as he basically did not deviate from the Bush WH on this.

He needs an adulation recharge.

"Obama looks to be talking himself into lame duck status by Christmas."
Gord Tulk

Maybe his socialised medecine "quacks" like a duck?

Posted by: Right Honorable Terry Tory at August 18, 2009 10:17 AM

From Todays Rasmmusen Reports

The Rasmussen Reports daily presidential tracking poll for Tuesday shows that 31% of the nations voters strongly approve of the way Barack Obama is performing his role as President.
Forty Percent(40%)strongly disapprove giving Obama a Presidential approval index rating of -9

Posted by: bryanr at August 18, 2009 10:18 AM

Rasmussen Reports Aug.18/09

if you look at the trend report Since june 30/09 Obama has shown negative #'s, with his lowest being -12 July30. Prior to that he was showing a consistent Plus with his highest being +30 on Jan.22/09 (inauguration day was Jan.20/09)

Posted by: bryanr at August 18, 2009 10:31 AM

"Forty Percent(40%)strongly disapprove giving Obama a Presidential approval index rating of -9"
bryanr

-9...The only thing Barry seems good at is creating deficits...even for himself!

What a waste of a billion $'s that last US election was.
The consolation for this bad dream is watching the MSM unravelling over their protege's self destruction. Barry's election was needed only to expose how the MSM are just whores of the lefty persuasion to the masses who rely on them for their "news".

Posted by: Right Honorable Terry Tory at August 18, 2009 10:39 AM

I think the picture of Obama is disrespectful, derogatory, and in very poor taste. And I'm a card holding Conservative. Imagine what the left thinks of you! And you wonder why people vote Liberal! It's this kind of behavior that keeps us in the minority section!
~Joe Citizen

Is this a joke?
I know what the Left thinks of people.
I don't wonder why people vote Liberal, they do it because the Liberals rob Peter to pay Paul and Paul can therefore be counted on to vote Liberal.

What keeps Conservatism in the "minority" section is that conservfative majority status depends on people to vote for their own individual right to keep the fruits of their labour while the socialist voter is voting to take the fruits of other people's labour to stay ahead.

I think the key to majority status would be to remove collective bargaining from public sector unions, who are basically bargaining from a monopoly position.

Disrespectful, derogatory, and in very poor taste?
Are we talking about a politician here or some sort of religious or royal figure?

Posted by: Oz at August 18, 2009 10:52 AM

The left cracked up when Kennedy was killed by Oswald, a left-communist: one of their own.

The left cannot change; the left is a jail; the left is always the left.
...-


"Even Jacqueline Kennedy privately expressed regret that he had been killed "by a communist." "Far better, she said, if, like Lincoln, he had been martyred ...
books.google.ca/books?isbn=1586486748..."

Posted by: maz2 at August 18, 2009 10:57 AM


Mazz,

JFK was martyred. He was a stanch anti-communist. Probably the next-to-last anti-communist democrat after LBJ.

He screwed up everything he did but at least he was on the right side of the cold war.

Posted by: Jason at August 18, 2009 11:00 AM

The meaning of peace is the absence of socialism.

That constant whining sound ... gimme, gimme, gimme.

Posted by: set you free at August 18, 2009 11:12 AM

Joe Citizen's analysis is nonsense.

IF creating and publicizing a picture of a politician, meant to mock and belittle that politician, results in the political party that did it, moving into minority status, THEN

How does this assumption of Joe Citizen support the fact that the left Democrats made many belittling and insulting pictures of Bush and Cheney - and moved into majority status???

Oh, and this current Obama Joker picture was made, not by a political party, but by an individual of the 'left' alignment. So?

Posted by: ET at August 18, 2009 11:28 AM

Thos picture is only wast the time and energy and your mind you do better to argue with your opponeet in thier view and say your opionion.
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Do consider that as may our Freinds Arabs may not agree with me
but Arabs are racism and not like Blak peopel too

some Arab in Africa who are Arabs may call them like some Egyption in total Arab are not talk with black easy

as yesterday I saw pciture of flag of Isreal in back of that guy president of African country who was charged for corrption I was wonder why or when they interview him why flag of Isrel was hand in back of that guy I forgot his name

Joker is used for black with lip stick in once a year for joke them in party or ceromony
and in Middle easer in past old party

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As all immagination brought all picture of Obama
ONLY because he is black I prefer peopel focus to talk his opion or what they agree not his face or colour because it weakned peopel in argument and not good strategy in politc anybody made fun of some one from race or gender or relgion when there is important issue to tlak on table or political debate is around

this picture making is childish not mature not human right discuse me and that is not right I do not like it for any black person in my mind to made fun of them for their colour

while west try to link iwth joker in batman who spread money to people not what Paltinina think they had differnet view of black with lipstick
like lipstick in pig used for sarah polin only to attach her for her women hood
all thing seems not right and not gain anything out of it must stop and focus to main issues

Posted by: new at August 18, 2009 11:39 AM

funny thought came to me while reading the posts. I realize it's a bit of a Canadianism but with Biden seemingly out of the headlines (at least the stuff I read) here goes anyway...

Biden, the next Joe who.

Posted by: the bear at August 18, 2009 11:54 AM

At present rate, I predict that in the not-too-distant future it will become trendy to be called a 'racist'.

Currently the word is morphing into a completely new meaning. It will mean a freedom loving individual who is not easily duped by charlatans like Barrack Hussein Obama and his gang.

Because it is those people who are continually being called racist. I don't know any conservative who wants black folks back on the back of the bus, but they do want an end to the black Marxist in the white house who is working tirelessly to enslave us in a tyrannical system of complete government control. And not because he is black, but because he is an elitist Marxist thug from America's leading thug City.

Chicago, Chicago, not my kinda town.

So ... racists unite! ... you have nothing to lose but your freedoms.

Racist: adj. (old meaning) one who hates those of different race. (new meaning since Obama presidency) one who hates Marxism, socialism, communism, wealth redistribution, government monopolies, huge deficits, unarmed civilian populations, phony climate change cap 'n trade, open borders, Islamic jihad and everything that the evil children of the left hold dear.

Posted by: Momar at August 18, 2009 12:07 PM

Posted by: eastern paul at August 18, 2009 1:25 AM
**Funny, I don't associate the picture with The Joker.
More like a cannibal, or someone out of Apocalypse Now.
Guess that's racism showing its nappy head....**

Yeah me too.....
It is irrelevant What the artist(??) motive was.
What is telling is how this image became so viral....there is the inspiration.....
Images can indeed be powerful and this image is forever burned on the cerebral hard-drive of millions.....and the lefties are going tar-paper because they have no programme to delete it.
The Bush-Hitler/joker images didn't take at all----merely temporary files at best.
This is because the Obama-joker was popularly recognized as accurate and the Bush-Hitler/joker was discarded as non-sense. The reaction of the MSM is obviously irrelevant....really nobody listens to them.......

Posted by: sasquatch at August 18, 2009 12:34 PM

Comrades bleet and NS:

By the ghost of Lenin, it is futile give up the fight for the triumph of our great and glorious leader, the annointed Obama who speaks for all victims of the bourgeois, capitalist pig oppressors.

In the words of our great inspirations, Comrade Marx, the meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.

We must quell such opposition to our glorious plans for the One World Government and we have nearly achieved our goal of declaring capitalism dead.

May I suggest your continued glorious actions of name-calling on blogs such as SDA, a running-dog mouthpiece for such discredited concepts as individual freedom, individual responsibility, an moral code that enables individuals to discenr the difference between right and wrong; and the pursuit of happiness.

We must crush the enemies of order by silencing the dangerous concept of free speech. This can be achieved, as Comrad Momar quite rightly points out, by calling those who oppose the glories of socialism racists.

If silencing the opponents of glorious socialism through proven methods of guilt, then we must take the next logical step, as given to us as a gift from the Glorious Josef Stalin.

Starve the bastards and if that doesn't work, round them up and shoot them.

Once the counter-revolutionaries who dare speak out against the wisdom of the Collective are silenced, then peace will be upon the earth, just like it is in Toronto.

Posted by: set you free at August 18, 2009 12:35 PM

Socialists are actually sick people. 95% of the pll on disability qualified as been Bipolar. 100% of those are socialists..

{quote]White House officials admit Obama's extreme confidence and total euphoria over hope and change were symptoms of a prolonged manic episode.[/quote}

Why not a name change "bipolar" to "Socialist" and dump those cheats from disability


Posted by: Slap Shot at August 18, 2009 12:46 PM

To all the art critics and political experts who disagree with me on the derogatory picture of Obama

Click on Nodice.Ca.

The last time I looked, the CPC was exatly 2% points ahead of the Liberals. Yes, I understand political cartoons drawn by graduates of the class of 2009 who are so intelligent and so well educated we can't make out what they're saying. Weren't they the ones who concoted the famous "Puffin" video on Youtube that cost us 5% in the polls, and almost overnight.

Do you realize that the 5% was all we needed to form a majority??

Maybe if "syncrodox" and other analysts stopped anal-izing and went to work at winning elections, we'd have our majority.

The end.

Posted by: Joe Citizen at August 18, 2009 12:53 PM

JC:

Who appointed you taskmaster?

Posted by: set you free at August 18, 2009 12:57 PM

I love the Joker poster. It captures Obama and his insane agenda to a T. I am not at all surprised that it was created by some random guy with Photoshop, for a giggle.

This is THE THING about which I have been carping for years now. Here we have a university kid with some talent, the right tools and the FREEDOM to use them. He creates a poster that perfectly lampoons a really objectionable politician. The web allows -everybody- to have it, participate in it, and use it to their advantage.

Imagine what could happen with cars, aircraft, industrial processes, medical procedures and etc. etc. etc.

Freedom, as in individual liberty, is one of the three requirements for a creative society. The other two requirements are time and money.

Socialism deprives us of all three. Socialism is a problem, not a solution.

Posted by: The Phantom at August 18, 2009 1:02 PM

The left cracked up when Kennedy was killed by Oswald, a left-communist: one of their own.

Posted by: maz2 at August 18, 2009 10:57 AM

Or did he???????

Charles Voyde Harrelson (July 23, 1938[1] – March 15, 2007[2][3]) was an American freelance hitman connected with organized crime and was convicted of assassinating a federal judge. He was the father of actor Woody Harrelson.

Mother Diane Lou Oswald

Harrelson mentioned in an early confession to the Wood murder that he shot President John F. Kennedy in Dallas in 1963. He then later repeatedly denied his role in the shooting of the President, for which no connection was ever found.

Conspiracy theorists have also labeled him as one of the "Three Tramps" hiding in a box car on the railroad tracks behind Dealey Plaza just after the shooting. Harrelson at various times before his death boasted about his role as one of the tramps,[8] even though in a previous interview he had denied being in Dallas on the day of the assassination.

About the assassination, Harrelson remarked to Dallas TV station KDFW-TV in 1982, "Do you believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed President Kennedy, alone, without any aid from a rogue agency of the US government or at least a portion of that agency? I believe you are very naive if you do."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Harrelson

Posted by: News Flash at August 18, 2009 1:16 PM

joe citizen - you still haven't explained the facts that contradict your theory that making a Cartoon Poster of a Leader moves a Political party into Minority status.

The facts? That the Democratic Party made all kinds of derogatory posters of Bush, Cheney etc - and moved into majority status. Kindly explain this. Otherwise, your theory, heh, falls apart. Totally. Facts trump your fiction, joe citizen!

Oh, and please provide some proof that the 'puffin poster' cost us 5% in the polls. And please explain your theory of 'how to work to win an election'. Thanks in advance. And, by the way, don't start up with the insults about we who post on this blog. They are similar, after all, to those derogatory posters that you find so distasteful.

Posted by: ET at August 18, 2009 1:18 PM

Interestingly, although this image is superficially the Joker, on a deeper level it is an image of Baron Samedi, the lord of death on the Voudon loa.

All through the Caribbean and various parts of South America a form of voodoo is very popular. It has come to the United States up through New Orleans and parts of Louisiana. Santeria is a close cousin and regrettably, because of Santeria, the US has its first pro-animal cruelty law, since it is now legal to slaughter goats and other animals as part of a religious ceremony.

This religion is a combination of Roman Catholicism and the old tribal religions from Africa that have been comingled as slaves were brought over.

Baron Samedi (the deeper architypal image of Obama that we see) is perhaps the most feared god of the Voudon loa. Many mysterious phenomena are associated with him, and he is regularly revered and feared in Haiti as well as other centers of Voudon-derivative religions.

Whether this was actually intended or was an accident, it says something even deeper about Obama than the Joker character.

Posted by: Greg in Dallas at August 18, 2009 1:18 PM

Joe Citizen, I suggest you google bush hilter, and get a load of the results, and guess what? 'They'won.

Posted by: tim in vermont at August 18, 2009 1:22 PM

syf:

Hopefully--someone who eventually hopes to win an election!

Posted by: Joe Citizen at August 18, 2009 1:24 PM

joe citizen - so, you are admitting that you are just a servant of someone else; you don't think for yourself. Sad.

Again, how about explaining the contradiction in your 'theory' that IF you publish a critical poster of someone, this moves you into minority territory. The facts show the opposite. Please explain.

And, don't, yourself, move into derogatory insults. After all, according to your theory, that puts you firmly in the minority realm.

Posted by: ET at August 18, 2009 1:29 PM

ET:

(Another "theorist.")

If you want to spend the rest of your life sitting at a keyboard talking about "the government that got away on us," go ahead. Enjoy the ride.

RE: "a servant of someone else."

"Whom" am I serving by wanting to win the next federal election, instead of talking about it?

Posted by: Joe Citizen at August 18, 2009 1:47 PM


Anyone ever ask themselves - what would Bob Barker do if he was elected U.S. President?

I think we are finding out..

Posted by: Beer and Popcorn at August 18, 2009 1:55 PM

It seems patently obvious to me that the corporate media and political class over reaction to the poster was a matter of fear. The fear come for their own propaganda techniques being used against them.

Simple graphic representation of menacing evil associated with a political enemy repeated ad infinitum. A fundamental political propaganda tool. The status quo propagandists were shocked to see such an effective tool in the hands of popular dissent.

"we would not allow our enemies to have guns, why would we allow them to have ideas" - Stalin

"we will win with symbols and slogans" - Lenin

Posted by: Co;. Edward Mandel House at August 18, 2009 1:56 PM

First of all, adults do not need to be told by special interest groups what to like or not like and why. Secondly, when Bush was called Hitler, Sarah Palin and her family savaged and images of McCain distorted to ugly things, who apologised? No one.
The left is filled to the rafters with racists, misogynists and outright hypocrites, none of whom can take criticism of any sort. This all goes without saying, of course. Remind the infantile left to man up for a change.
ET, right on.

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at August 18, 2009 2:02 PM

Joe Citizen, well aren't you precious. Maybe your name should be Joe Clark. He was a conservative like you. That turned out well didn't it?

When fighting the left there is only one way to win. Fight dirtier than they do. Anything short of that and they win. They have no qualms about hitting below the belt. I don't either.

Posted by: A storm is coming at August 18, 2009 2:19 PM

joe citizen - yoo hoo. How about answering the question about the basic contradiction in your theory that posting 'insulting images' leads to a minority status? Well?

If you want to spend the rest of your life typing away, spouting theories that are basically false because they directly contradict reality - go ahead.

Are you seriously suggesting that your posts on this blog are helping your party win an election?

A storm is coming - I happen to think that the best way to win is with facts. I mean a genuine win. Obama won the last US election based on pure emotive hyperbole - totally unconnected with reality. Americans are now waking up and realizing that what they got is not what they wanted. They'll ditch him as soon as they can. Or, the Democratic Party will ditch him.

Posted by: ET at August 18, 2009 2:39 PM

Oh, to be there when everyone turns on Obama and calls him for what he is: a fraud.

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at August 18, 2009 2:53 PM

Joe Citizen: "Weren't they the ones who concoted the famous "Puffin" video on Youtube that cost us 5% in the polls, and almost overnight. Do you realize that the 5% was all we needed to form a majority??"

You'd think that, given the great number and diversity of people who contribute to this blog, a person who makes hard and fast assertions would be sure to get his facts right. Because he can be sure there'll be someone here who would know enough to be able to call him on his fiction.

Well, this is fiction, and I'm absolutely confident that many others on this site know it. In fact, one of the things that characterized the last election was the immunity the CPC had from repercussions to gaffes. It didn't seem to make much of a difference whether their children in the backroom committed that piece of puffin idiocy or Bob Rae theatrically showed that Harper's Iraq-invasion speech was partly copied from John Howard's. The one event that did move the polls was Harper's (valid) "rich galas" remark, which cost seats in Quebec.

But the puffin video? Not a budge in the polls.

The lesson? Joe Citizen needs to get his facts straight -- or needs to start using facts, not guesses.

Posted by: mj at August 18, 2009 3:01 PM

"bleet"! I love it, the immunity to irony and a good knee-slapper of these leftards, hee hee!

"The excited young sophomore had arrived, it was his big moment in front of the cameras, all attention was focused on him...he lifted the bullhorn to his lips, pressed the switch...and a tiny and insignificant 'bleet!' issued over the heads of the waiting throng.

Angry mutterings from the crowd:

"Bleet? BLEET? What's that motherf*cker talking about? How in hell did HE get to represent The people?

And so on, etc etc.

Posted by: Michael H Anderson at August 18, 2009 3:45 PM

ET wrote: A storm is coming - I happen to think that the best way to win is with facts. I mean a genuine win.

Well ET I agree with you, in a perfect world, that would be the way to win. But facts are strangely silent when most of the press is left wing and backing libs and dippers in any and every election. How many times have we played nice guy, you know, not lowering ourselves to their level? It doesn't work. They laugh at us and the press laughs. I respectly disagree with you. The time for being Mr. Nice Guy, is over. I've mentioned a while back that I am fron the General Sherman school of warfare. Make it so awful and so complete, that it will be generations before they even think of war again. It is war, though most don't realize it. The left are trying to re-engineer our way of life. If that's not worth fighting against, then I don't know what is.

Posted by: A storm is coming at August 18, 2009 4:01 PM

sorry ET, should read 'respectfully'

Posted by: A storm is coming at August 18, 2009 4:04 PM

Storm:

Laugh at them.

Parody them.

Hit them back twice as hard.

It's not like there's a shortage of material, endlessly repeated over the years.

Tell the useful idiots ‘The Joker's on You.'

Posted by: set you free at August 18, 2009 4:16 PM

"I think the picture of Obama is disrespectful, derogatory, and in very poor taste. And I'm a card holding Conservative. Imagine what the left thinks of you! And you wonder why people vote Liberal!"

Well, yeah, I do wonder why people vote Liberal but I doubt this picture had anything to do with it since it was uploaded to Flickr 3 months after the last election.

And anyone paying attention doesn't have imagine what the left thinks of us - they tell us regularly, even to the point of eagerly wishing the re-education camps to open. That's far more disrespectful, derogatory and in poor taste than amateurish scrawling over any politician's face.

Posted by: Kathryn at August 18, 2009 4:43 PM

Kathryn:

By the Spirit of Stalin, it is good to see you are paying attention to the glorious promise of the upcoming re-education camps for those who oppose socialism (as articulated by the Great Karl Marx).

It shames me to read such disgusting Thought Crimes against our secular progressive march to One World Government.

Once we discover and properly dispose of these criminals, we can celebrate with our ration of vodka and beets.

The Joker's on Them.

Posted by: set you free at August 18, 2009 5:04 PM

Let us see now,

In regards of: Posted by: Joe Citizen at August 18, 2009 1:25 AM

Elections are won by those that are not afraid of saying, doing something that “may” mean something else to someone else.
A point of the cartoon, if that is what it is, is to project an idea. Sometime it hits, sometime it misses.
Even if it misses, it will resonate with some. Even if it hits, some will find it of no value.
If Joe wants to just win an election, just because, maybe he should align with the socialists, they want to win, just because, they have absolutely no clue what would they do if they won other than run the country into the ruin.
Seems that there is a lot of wishful thinking going on, rather than a good set of arguments.

Posted by: Lev at August 18, 2009 6:52 PM

h/t Deborah Gyapong:

PajamasTV - Afterburner with Bill Whittle on the power of logos, Obama's personal logo, in particular:

http://www.pjtv.com/v/2317

Posted by: batb at August 18, 2009 6:54 PM

SDA: still grasping at straws.
Posted by: bleet at August 18, 2009 12:30 AM "

hey bleet, ever seen one of those old b&w pics of a straw rammed into a fence post by a tornado?

well pretend the tornado is public opinion, the straw is from sda and the fence post is the latest bungling politishun.

get it now?

they ALL do it.

p.s Heath Ledger deserved the oscar he won for his role as The Joker.

Posted by: curious_george at August 18, 2009 8:29 PM

"The left, however, knows how to laugh at itself and allows criticism of its prominent celebrties. Witness the joker flap, its only rightoids that are serious about this."


So.... you must be laughing your own A$$ off pretty much all the time.

Perhaps that wet flapping sound you hear is a lefties butt slapping the floor?

Posted by: OMMAG at August 18, 2009 8:31 PM

Storm, you've nailed it. Taking a knife to a gunfight is a losing strategy.

Posted by: sonofAtilla at August 18, 2009 10:04 PM

This exact poster was done of Bush. I wouldn't be surprised if the left did this themselves...who knows. I've never liked horror movies or anything akin, so I do not like this pic...do not think the one of Bush is any better.

Posted by: No-One at August 18, 2009 10:12 PM

change yourself by stop stupid by stop racism and hate in nonsense issue in politic be serious

Last night for first time after 10 years for some reason I watched movie channel of the horror movie called “Halloween" I generally hate horror movie I have message to say , any way,
it was story of boy who wear mask and kill so many people even their own city friend parents and sister and he was sociopath and finally his mother did suicide of not able to handle her son end up evil
and by the way mother was dance striper and her sister was bittgh and he only like his small two years sister who grow up and did not want to kill her

In this film tried to show people who have mentally ill come from busy and wrong like mother was dance striper end up ignore her child and lead him to mentally ill

And he was wear mask one day in Halloween and start killing until his sister kill him when two years old sister end up 17 years made him stop at the end of day

Black color is no color and white color is all color and wear mask to hid some facts

this above picture is came from Palestinian Arab who grow with hate and as we all know all hate in Palestinian and Israel is two ways street now

Secondly some above commenter made me feel sick that they were not have good mom when they were child and they hate some one to death

Thirdly because Obama is black this is awful to put him down and anybody doing it will lose more public interest since you must find new method
Horrible history of west against all racism and hate brought very unfortunate story which is real in our life that you better stop it

You better stop this BS racism made fun of people
Act more real to the point and criticize important point not face or color

I understand majority of conservative are farmer or group worker who has barley has grade 12 and not educated and may know alot but can not say alot and that is why they will use anger to say their disagreement which is wrong must start dialoged

How much money and power is worst to hate each other for me a penny
Stop this racism and act more mature to world politic
Stop showing any horror movie and stop making horror children toys and stop Halloween I hate Halloween is come from mental mind to think Halloween must be fun day that is horrible day stop making gun toys for children and etc… put peace and love and people do anything when you like each other stop hate let Arab and Israeli new young live together peacefully and Muslim fight get stopped
Stop hating people only because they are black or white and do not target people to increase hate in public I know those hate people are not listening to me but we look for how to eliminate those hate do not pay to army or police or lawyer or judge to show fact upside down for hate or politic. find solution.

Posted by: new at August 19, 2009 11:25 AM

I have cleared up all the confusion for everybody.

http://phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2009/08/just-so-were-clear.html

This public service brought to you by The Invincible Phantom

Posted by: The Phantom at August 19, 2009 1:10 PM

New said: "I understand majority of conservative are farmer or group worker who has barley has grade 12 and not educated..."

New ducky, you -have- been listening to the BBC haven't you? You have -no- freepin' idea who reads this blog, my girl.

Posted by: The Phantom at August 19, 2009 1:14 PM

phantom

may be I am wrong to know real statistic

in my experince:

people who grow in educated family
are less angry

peopel who has angry attitue has lower education

and patient


when I say eduction sometimes you may go to church and read alot and has education in reglion
and still make you less angry and more patient person

at least I see what I expeirenced in Canada
that any body I saw said I am conservative
they hate peopel of colour hated Muslim or their relgion background or has angry attitude

may be I did not see majority of them

Posted by: new at August 19, 2009 3:39 PM

Well new, I have degrees in two subjects and I'm a piker around here at SDA. The people who comment here are probably the smartest people you talk to all day. Kate has a list someplace of the professions and credentials of her readers, its quite something.

You should try -READING- what people write about here instead of assuming we're a bunch of low class high school drop outs, God forbid you might learn something useful. Like logic, for a start.

Posted by: The Phantom at August 19, 2009 10:27 PM

you are educated but still angry man to my view
I do not like angry men for even if we say you have right to be angry
I do not accept all execusses for too much angry person all the time

I should used and /or rather seeing and in above
like most conservative are farmer and/or low level educated peopel and /or angry people

I know you hate for my frankly what we think
for restriced Muslim
conservative and NDP and libeeral we see you all as one word " NON MUSLIM"
and we are Muslim and we are minority and you are majority taht is all we do not see so much difference between you it does not matter
none like Muslim by heart they may say that is not true

in fact they do not support Muslim canadain
look that Muslim women in Africa
not for a day she was three month in jail
nobody helped her and she back sick

this is real heart breaking to see her emtion and pain she went through only because she was muslim
then you say your govermetn are not hate Muslim or supprted all Canadian with one eyse that is not true

what I do not like abour conservative ONLy their angry attitude
they love so many court proceeding they love wars

what I do not like Liberal is bring people as immigrant but they used them as studne of class to pay professor income when they gradue hard to find job for them still and most of job for Canadain
what I do not like about NDP is the guy seems not racims he married chinnese but walk and pretend he like gays while he does not
and
what I like is justice and logic
I hate unreasonable peopel who like or dislike peopel for thier heart not think of good vs bad

I know and saw some changes in past two years and I am optomestic Canada will change soon in good

be optomestic not passemestic

Posted by: new at August 20, 2009 12:11 AM

They're down now, but these were put up in my Toronto neighbourhood with the tag "fascism".

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2009 10:45 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/08/14/f-stranded-canadians235.html

when people treat black as bunch of joker this is made me feel sick to stomach and sorry for them and for them to laugh and entertain
or not see them seriously and do not help them on time

we can add Black
and one word MUSLIM

if you go to north pole rather than economic you built more soldure war zone that is not good at all
then it become double standard
and let them stay for fun in prison like example said in this web page that is treat
and ingornat our politician are playing with them
this must be get stop

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/680809
they could bring her earlier

focus to guard:

http://pm.gc.ca/eng/media.asp?id=2759

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&rlz=1R2RNTN_en&q=in+Kenya%2C+Canadian+citizen+Suaad+Hagi+Mohamud+and+harper&meta=

http://www.liberal.ca/en/newsroom/media-releases/16167_just-the-factsconservative-mishandling-of-suaad-hagi-mohamuds-case

yes black are jokers when Muslim name they are double laughter keep them longer in any delay!!

Posted by: new at August 21, 2009 12:54 PM
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