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August 5, 2009

Y2Kyoto: When It's Windy, It's Climate

Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!

USA Today, Oct.13, 2008 - Through July, 1,390 tornadoes were officially recorded in the first seven months of a year — the most ever. [...] a warning was sounded in 2007, when two separate studies predicted there would be an increase in the frequency and intensity of severe thunderstorms and tornadoes in the USA due to global warming by the year 2100.

Associated Press, Aug. 3, 2009 - During a remarkable 17-day lull from mid-May through early June, there were no tornado watches issued anywhere in the United States. And that is typically the height of the season in Tornado Alley. [...] Meteorologists are attributing the relative calm not to anything dire, like global warming, but to the shifts in the jet stream that happen from time to time. When the jet stream runs south to north in the spring over the central states, there are usually plenty of tornadoes. When it’s more west to east, as it is this year, tornadoes are less common.

Posted by Kate at August 5, 2009 11:34 AM
Comments

"Meteorologists are attributing the relative calm not to anything dire, like global warming, but to the shifts in the jet stream ..."

Interesting (hardly surprising) that it would even occur to the AP writer that the calm could have been caused by global warming. But there it is in a nutshell: the global-warming diehards are ready to attribute any weather condition to gw.

Posted by: mj at August 5, 2009 12:08 PM

some more anecdotal stuff:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090805/national/forest_fires

Posted by: curious_george at August 5, 2009 12:13 PM

Cooler global temps mean less evaporation, and less evaporation means less precipitation. Dry means more forest fires, but fire has, on the other hand always been a part of the forest cycle. Maybe the mountain pine beetle could be killed off if we stopped interfering as much as we do in the natural cycles of the forest. But then again, those trees are worth money....

Posted by: Kevin Lafayette at August 5, 2009 12:21 PM

Well, I dunno. All I can say is I took off my jacket on July 10 and put it back on today, August 5th. Looks like global warming is fooling my senses too.

Posted by: Sounder at August 5, 2009 12:23 PM

What comes out of research by biased academics is one thing, but when it passes thru the lens of MSM apparatus is a whole different ball game.

We can safely admit that it no longer matters what scientific consensus really is, only what MSM thinks we must think about it.

Posted by: Aaron at August 5, 2009 12:59 PM

Perhaps the Associated Press should re-read that USA Today article, they obviously have it all wrong.

Posted by: William at August 5, 2009 1:11 PM

I put the furnace on today. It's + 10 C in Calgary at 11:14 am.

Posted by: jt at August 5, 2009 1:15 PM

Why would a good international communist let any opportunity to twist the truth into self-serving propaganda go by?

Posted by: Doug at August 5, 2009 1:45 PM

CNN this morning were puzzled that no potential Hurricane activity had yet been reported. Especially in the Atlantic ocean. John Roberts was almost up in arms saying to the weather guy: "You have nothing to give us to report"...
AKA: Nothing's happening for us to keep hammering and scaring the sheeple about global warming...they'll soon forget, God @$%^ it!

It's too late CNN, the jig is up. Just look at the politicians being greeted at town meetings on the subject.

Part one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOLs7Cybnqw

Part two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOdlZgMHKcQ&feature=related

Posted by: Right Honorable Terry Tory at August 5, 2009 1:46 PM

This is from an AGW BELIEVER !!. His light bulb is turning in.

"It seems as if almost every day brings news of information and discoveries that bolster the skeptical opposition to the theory that global warming is dangerous and due to human emissions of CO2.

Now, this is part of the natural information cycle in science--those who were most worried about CO2 did the first research and published it early on. Those who reacted to it then had to design research studies, attract funding, perform the studies, analyse it and report it. So in a lot of ways this is just their turn.

Nonetheless, what's coming in over the Internet is impressive, if only by the quantity of information arriving . . . "


http://tinyurl.com/n8rulw

Posted by: Fred at August 5, 2009 1:55 PM

jt....+4 @ Sherwood Park overnight...New low record at YEG....+9 at noon in Edmonchuk. Doesn't this prove that Goracle/Fruitfly were right and they have stopped AGW???? LOLOLOL.

Posted by: Justthinkin at August 5, 2009 1:58 PM

Not so fast - this tornado was clearly caused by Global Warming:

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/skies+blackened+powerful+tornado+touched+down/1859824/story.html

"'But as the climate gets warmer, maybe they’ll get further north,' Héroux said.

"Norman Latreille, a director at Mont-Laurier’s Hotel Dynastie said he has certainly noticed changes in climate of late.

"'For a couple of years now we have this kind of weather.'"

Posted by: PabloNH at August 5, 2009 2:38 PM

Remember William Randolph Hearst's quote - “You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war.”

Well, war is so passé - how about "you supply the [polar bear] pictures, and I'll give you a [climate] war."

Posted by: Erik Larsen at August 5, 2009 2:39 PM

What is amazing is despite the infiltration and near complete control of the MSM, and academia...and the political fallout from Obamamania.....that any scientific research into climate is conducted......
No credible research supports the Alarmist Myth. Any credible research conducted just exposes the fraud....including the non-existant consensus.
We are indebted to the Christies, Balls, Singers and Averys to speak out despite the CO2 Inquisitors stalking the land..........

Posted by: sasquatch at August 5, 2009 2:41 PM

my god, my god. save us it's weather.

Posted by: old white guy at August 5, 2009 3:11 PM

the only time co2 is a pollutant is when it comes out of some moron politican's mouth.

Posted by: old white guy at August 5, 2009 3:15 PM

Trying to support global warming or even oppose it using only anecdotal evidence is pointless.

If there is real global warming going on, then temperatures will warm on a large scale over a long period of time. They were doing that faintly for about two decades, then that trend flattened out or even reversed slightly.

And even if there were a trend upwards in temperatures, some or all of it could be natural in origin. The problem then becomes, how to prove what part of that warming was anthropogenic, if any? Despite the public concept that "all scientists believe in global warming" the reality in climate science is that you can find many different positions, ranging from the alarmist to the outright skeptical, but many shades of grey in between, for example, something like seeing a modest temperature increase of which a third is possibly human-related. That gives you a very small absolute increase to be attributed to human activity, and this would still be there in the background of natural cooling too (making said natural cooling slightly less dramatic).

There are also even more complex positions depending on how human modification, however large or slight, interacts with different weather patterns. Climatology is not that simple or straightforward that anyone could say, "more hurricanes this year, must be climate change," there are so many variables that go into that sort of variation.

I only trust statistics that relate to large areas and long periods of time, the smaller the sample, obviously, the more malarkey can go on to manipulate the statistics.

And I don't believe that AGW is a big issue; I tend to see it as a marginal increase that can easily be swamped by much larger natural variations. It was just bad luck (for us) that the earth was going to warm anyway from 1980 to about 2006 (the peak apparently coming in 1998 due to the exceptional El Nino event of 97-98).

Had there been nothing but squirrels and dolphins to record this, the increase in carbon dioxide would have gone without comment altogether. I also believe it could easily cool back down to whatever levels the natural climate has sustained before outside of an ice-age pattern, to get one of those, I think we have to wait for some of the longer term astronomical cycles to factor in, and if you google "Milankovitch cycles" and look at any graphical forecasts of future trends, you'll see that we are in an unusual period now of very small variations, which should keep our climate pretty stable for quite a while. It will take perhaps 10,000 years or longer to arrive (slowly) back at the insolation reduction required for glaciation to kick in. And by then, perhaps we will have come to value our human slight warming efforts a lot more than we have so far. We may be able to prevent that next ice age just by not tuning up our cars.

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at August 5, 2009 4:53 PM

Uncle Joe* Goreacle is lurking behind U,M, and D.

Shrinks at the TO meeting hope to "prod" youse.

It's Goreacle's Psycho Warfare.

...-

"Psychological barriers to "climate change"

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Psychological barriers like uncertainty, mistrust and denial keep most Americans from acting to fight climate change, a task force of the American Psychological Association said on Wednesday.

Policymakers, scientists and marketers should look at these factors to figure out what might prod people take action, the task force reported at the association's annual convention in Toronto."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2309068/posts


*Another Soviet Dissident Committed to an Insane Asylum
[page 2] Vladimir Bukovsky, another young dissident and former student at Moscow University who s??t six years in prisons, insane asylums and concentration ...
www.osaarchivum.org/files/holdings/300/8/.../66-2-47.shtml

Posted by: maz2 at August 5, 2009 6:03 PM

Kate, you are tooooo good.

And, no Hurricanes this summer, Man that's gotta hurt their AGW agenda.
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Posted by: Ratt at August 5, 2009 6:19 PM

It's not about science or facts ..... it's about creating opportunities for scumbags to fleece the public.

Posted by: OMMAG at August 5, 2009 7:02 PM

The GW believers and the media have had this great relationship don't you think? What a wonderful service for us that they were doing though, very noble, save the earth, teach the people, great plans - prevent killer storms caused by global warming, go green; global warming will kill thousands by 2050 or before, buy green; global warming is killing polar bears, be eco friendlier-adjust your personal hygiene standards; Be greener, pay more for less; Polar ice is melting causing oceans to rise, ban cow farts, wood burning fireplaces and sit in the dark one hour a year;
- now forced 'carbon tax'.
- based on junk science claiming it's man made pollutants negatively affecting the weather, er climate.

When will the lunacy end?
When money can't be made on it's hype.

Posted by: ldd at August 5, 2009 8:17 PM

I love when you do this Kate. Shows em up for what they are. The MSM winning for Obama has gone to their collective heads so bad they now think there above any integrity. Its the Glitter & gilt approach to news even if its fake.
JMO

Posted by: Revnant Dream at August 5, 2009 8:31 PM

There's never a tornado when you need one.

Nobel Prize-winning economist Thomas Schelling:
"I sometimes wish that we could have, over the next five or ten years, a lot of horrid things happening -- you know, like tornadoes in the Midwest and so forth -- that would get people very concerned about climate change. But I don't think that's going to happen."
http://tiny.cc/Z9dUa
Yeah, yeah, I know. Out of context. Cherry-picking. Didn't really mean it. Pinky-pondering.

Posted by: Ramon Daley at August 5, 2009 11:02 PM

Peter O'Donnell wrote: "Had there been nothing but squirrels and dolphins to record this, the increase in carbon dioxide would have gone without comment altogether."

We seem to be stuck with angry chicken (littles) and lemmings who are able to type.

I was going to make an Animal Farm reference.

Posted by: PiperPaul at August 5, 2009 11:38 PM

It won't be long (say January) until the MSM will be able to report on extreme weather events like record low temps, blizzards, etc. All due, no doubt, to AGW.

Posted by: Free Thinker at August 6, 2009 10:15 AM

Posted by: OMMAG at August 5, 2009 7:02 PM

All supported by your Conservative Party government sir.

Posted by: hardboiled at August 6, 2009 11:21 AM

This fairly lengthy link provides some interesting data on water temps in the Gulf of Mexico, and the correlation with hurricane activity. It suggests we might have another major storm this year.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/cs-says-%E2%80%9Cstorm-risk-reduced%E2%80%9D-buoy-42011-says-%E2%80%9Cwatch-out%E2%80%9D

Posted by: KevinB at August 6, 2009 11:15 PM

Jet stream moving more East to West explains the calm weather? I swear, I just heard a meteorologist explain the cool temps in the East and hot temps in the West this year are due to the jet stream moving much more North and South. They really don't have a clue but are getting much better at convincing some that they do.

Posted by: MikeB at August 7, 2009 1:37 PM

Seeing as the UK High Court recently ruled (due to the successful lawsuit proscribing the showing of "An Inconvenient Truth" as anything other than political propaganda in Britain) that it is erroneous to ascribe one-off climatic events to global warming, this should surprise nobody.

Posted by: Michael H Anderson at August 7, 2009 4:12 PM
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