There seems to be an alarming number of these kinds of stories appearing over the last year or so. My question is this. Are this apparent honor killing events beginning to actually occur with more frequency? Or, are events that would have previously been reported as "accidents" being ascribed to "crimes d'honneur"?

Also, I'm interested to hear the liberal moral pygmies that troll SDA to chime in on this topic. Multiculturalism: not just more pavilions at folkfest anymore.

I was wondering when this story would appear on SDA.

I am very, very familiar with Kingston Mills locks, as I lived less than a half a mile from there for over 10 years, and I boat through it every summer.

The local police are completely baffled, and after a quick inspection of the lock a few days after the accident, I can attest to the fact that this was no "accident".

Couple this with the freak show that occured in Gananoque(another favorite boating destination for my family and myself)and it would appear that we have become a dumping ground of some sort.

Once again, and let me say it with complete clarity....there is no way on earth that the car that went into the water at Kingston Mill's Lock entered said water by accident......NO FRIGGIN WAY!

I thought something smelled funny when I first heard the story and I don't mean Rideau Canal water. However, the most disgusting point of all this is that there isn't an outcry from Muslim groups except when us infadels point out that such brutal customs and beliefs should be left in the old country and then the outrage is directed at our western society and "bad" influence.

and after a quick inspection of the lock a few days after the accident,......should have said "after the incident"....sorry

Move along. Nothing to see here.

But be sure to have the whole family tune-in at 8:00 PM this Friday,
when CBC presents A Very Special Episode of Little Mosque On The Prairie.

The hour-long commercial-free broadcast will consist entirely of
an adorable basket of puppies accompanied by a heartwarming laugh-track.

And you don't have anything against puppies, do you? Quirky puppies.

my first thought when hearing the news was muslim men killing their women. living in the area made me question how the car could possibly gone into the lock by accident. looks like i was right. send the muzzies back to where they came from.

What a horrid death cult islam is. How can muslims be so stupid and embrace such a barabaric hate- filled religion. islam needs to be eradicated by any means possible.

Lok, okay, it's not like there are no Western men who abuse or kill their female family members! These are isolated incidents! What do you know about Islamic culture, which is very peaceful?!

(I just thought I'd save the trolls some effort.)

"Peaceful Islamic culture". Good one Black Mamba.

Ban Islam

Holy crap. Absolutely none of the Islamic back story was carried by any of the news services here in Alberta. The last I heard was that it was a mystery why the car wound up in the water.

If it wasn't for SDA I wouldn't have found out the ugly truth behind the story. Thanks for nothing, MSM.

Atlas Shrugs has a lot on this story. The "aunt" who died with the teenage girls was most likely the father's first wife.

Oh well, this is just their culture, who are we to judge?

When I heard that news that arrests had been made, I tried to make a bet with my sister last night that the arrests would involve family members, that it would be an honour killing and the politically correct MSM would avoid reporting it as such. She wouldn't take the bet.

There was a freaky episode of Law and Order last night. The story was about an extremist Christian teen-aged boy who murdered his mother because she was committing adultery with a muslim man. No kidding, but it gets even more bizzare, the murder method of choice - stoning. Ohh those Christians.

In the bizarre world of Canadian politics perhaps we should change our criminal code to include a special section banning honour killings. After all we have one for gays, we have another for hate.
Why can't we keep adding to the piles of crap we have on the books.
Killing is killing no matter the reason. What we need to do in a very urgent sense is force proper sentencing and lock these killers up. Better yet, bring back Capital punishment specifically for honour killings!

This was all I found in the local media about the arrests. It is shockingly thin on details. They don't even say who was arrested which is one of the basic facts I would have expected:

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/arrested+locks+deaths/1817525/story.html

It seems the victimhood pyramid runs:

Muslim before,
Visible Minority before,
Gay before,
Woman before,
Criminal before,
Disabled before,

No word where journalist, government employee or laywer fits in yet - but fit they do...

"Taxpayer" and "man" obviously do not fit any better than "law abiding citizen" or "christian"

dolton mcguilty tried to ram sharia law onto the ontario citizenry during his 1st term of office.

looks like the muslim bigwigs have gone ahead and done it for him.

Law and Order has some pretty scabby script-writers.

Another show gets the block on TV.

By the middle of December I probably won't have but 3 channels. Wow shades of my childhood.

so it looks like they also lied on their immigration applications . . . claiming the first wife was an "aunt".

Now it appears the second/newer wife has convinced the boys of the family to get rid of her rival wife and all her children . . . nice "clean" start-over.

Fleeing to Pierre Elliot Trudeau Airport ...

The real story here is the media's careful handling of this news. No headlines or news that directly states "Father arrested for murdering daughters", which is certainly the case.

I'm still trying to figure out how any young woman would voluntarily choose to be Muslim. It must be hell when she initially learns her role in Muslim society, and what little freedom she has. We (e.g. Canada) should open up some "I don't want to be a Muslim woman any more" houses where young women can go, who fear for their lives.

Absolutely amazing, but not surprising!! Global Edmonton ran this story and even showed the footage of the father saying it was a joyride gone wrong. No mention that the father was one of the arrested or that the family was muslim.

I remebered this story when it was first reported, and last night I saw pictures of the victims and the footage of the father. I turned to my family and said this was an honor killing, this morning, a website reports the whole story and my suspicions are confirmed.

I guess there still may be the question whether this was motivated by honor or inconvenience, either way, some poor woman and children had the nerve to cramp a muslim man's style.

I can't understand how the talking heads can sleep at night without putting the whole story out there. They should be asamed of themselves.

Congresswoman Backs New Equal Rights Amendment; Points to Afghanistan, China as Models

CNSNews.com) – Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) told activists rallying on Capitol Hill in support of the newly reintroduced Equal Rights Amendment (ERA), that the United States should join 27 other countries that have equality guarantees for women, including Rwanda, Algeria, China and Afghanistan.

http://cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51368

"Fleeing to Pierre Elliot Trudeau Airport ..."

Hehehehehehehe!

Who's up for a night of beer drinking followed by a visit to his mausoleum?

"Who's up for a night of beer drinking followed by a visit to his mausoleum?"

You've piqued my interest. Any thoughts on what the rest of the program would be? Any good improv mausoleum theatre in mind?

[deleted. Clean up your act, or you'll be banned. Final warning. - ED]

This may be a stupid question but what is an honour killing and how can honour be associated with the intentional killing of ones own family, particularly women.

Dear Wafer...your question isn't stupid, but it is serious. Our media and justice system are so screwed up in the way these things are handled
joking about it is the only way to live with it.
Western society ( Canadian) stumbles and fumbles along with these issues because we don't have the maturity or will to act with a moral code for all.

I keep saying it. Every 16 year old girl gets a .38 and compulsory range time.

Muslim girlies, maybe we go to 14 years old. With big, gnarly female Canadian Forces instructors, just so the idea gets pounded firmly into their tiny, spinning little teenage girlie minds.

Big Brother ain't going to fix this. Who's going to fix it is the kid's teachers, their school friend's dad, their uncles and aunts (unless they're a bunch of psychos too), the next door neighbor, who drops a dime when she sees the kids sporting bruises and the wife (wives) walking with a limp...

But most of all, it will get fixed by WOMEN who stand the hell up and defeat their tormentors. Y'all got that girls? Get UP. Fight! Win!

I'm a guy. I wouldn't put up with that abuse for a millisecond. I don't see why women should.

Remember the Herouxville code?

NAC to the rescue !!

NAC Ron? Nascar Action Committee? National A-hole Commission? Nuclear Aarvarks on Crack?

Inquiring minds wanna know. :)

I worked with a physician from a middle eastern country. Very nice, funny, friendly guy, with a nice wife, and two kids born in Canada. A few weeks ago, to the shock of his family, he decided they were all moving back to the country of his birth - he wanted to get *another* wife. The kids were appalled and distraught.

Perhaps a bit off topic - but this was a real surprise for me. He seemed very "assimilated", (to use an imperfect word for this situation).

Men rule! Men decide! Coming to a country (very) near you!

wafer, This might help explain it. From Dr. Sanity, Shame, The Arab Psyche, and Islam

The big drawback with honour killings is that the killer(s) must be able to prove to peers/rivals/sceptics that they really did the deed. There is no merit or honour regained if a rebel daughter is randomly killed by a bus on her way to a part time job as a stripper. A perfect unprovable murder is useless.

Telling lies to infidel police by all concerned and fleeing the country also help to maintain the image of a devout "head of the household" ruling over his family as he should.

It's not just women,from todays' London Times: "The Danish Asian man is in a serious but stable condition in hospital after an incident in Leytonstone, East London, three weeks ago. Sulphuric acid is said to have been thrown in his face and he was stabbed twice in the back." For seeing a muslim girl and bringing dishonor on her family. The girl is in hiding.

tom, a thousand sighs.

I read your bit there, and didn't catch the second last sentence, and thought "what Asian culture/religion would behave like that just because this guy is seeing a Muslim girl?"

Yeah, I know, I should have figured it out

Ah, yes, Islam...such a peaceful religion.

Watch the news of the drownings at a Gananoque motel indoor swimming pool recently (just weeks apart).

It isn't all that is reported either.
Father: "They probably didn't even know what a swimming pool was." Bare-faced lie (police know facts but one fact not revealed yet).

Father in newspaper: he was asleep when the girls slipped out with their mom. Fact: he and sons slept in different rooms and at the time of the drowning, were (supposedly) eating breakfast (somewhere as restaurant is closed for renovations).

Father in newspaper interview: The two daughters had been living in Lahore with Yasmin's parents for a short while, and returned to Toronto last year at Yasmin's insistence. "Naila made them come back because she couldn't live without them," said Munawar.

Hmmm, teenage 'Canadian' girls had to be pressed to return home from Lahore.

As I said on another thread, I'm beginning to know what it is to be paranoid. Although, I've known enough about the culture/religion not to believe anything they say.

That said, I do hope the deaths of these three were truly 'accidental' even though none of the circumstances make any sense.

Next from the MSM we'll get the "mysterious" death of a young woman having committed suicide by shooting herself three times in the back of the head with a bolt action rifle -- followed by strident demands for more gun control.

I look forward to the front-page, above the fold, with photo, 80-point-type headlined story in the Toronto Star of "Swimming While Muslim" about these incidents.

there would be no Sharia law allowing for drowning, it was all conceived or misconcieved in a sand kingdom.

The story is online at the Toronto Star, National Post and Montreal Gazette - and does refer to the arrested by name; does declare that this may be an 'honour killing' and that the older woman might be a 'first wife'.

Apparently, the police were tipped off by a relative of the older woman, who insisted that it was an 'honour killing' and not an accident.

The three drownings in the pool are equally suspicious, since the press stated that none of the three could swim.

Where are the voices of the Muslim community on this? And feminists?

ET - exactly.

Where are the high profile imams, saying "although the facts of the matter are not yet assembled, these recent events are suspicious. We condemn murder and loss of life, and recognize honour killings as a cowardly act representative of misguided tribalism, and totally unacceptable in the modern world"

to answer ET's question: they are probably busy being outraged at the Harvard prof's "home while black"incident

On the local London station we got to hear from a bunch of Male Muslims (I guess the only ones left alive) that it's the hotel's fault for not having a lifeguard on duty.

Posted by: curious_george>

“dolton mcguilty tried to ram sharia law onto the ontario citizenry during his 1st term of office.
looks like the muslim bigwigs have gone ahead and done it for him.”

I like that George – well put!

Posted by: wafer>

“………but what is an honour killing and how can honour be associated with the intentional killing of ones own family………..”

That question in a nutshell is what defines the difference of “Culture” and the idiocy in the west that believes that they are cultured. Your comment isn’t stupid, it’s brilliant in the asking – something that the liberal left is mentally incapable of.

If more multicultural wingnuts paused but for a brief second to first ask that question, then take the time to investigate and educate themselves on “real” cultures of the world instead of watching National Geographic and Travel Travel, the first world would not be in the trouble it’s in today!

The first step is to fully understand the deep and impossibly ingrained belief systems of other cultures. This is something that is not “educated out of them”, even with a generation or two of transplantation in a foreign land. The worst of it is, with “bizarre culture” immigrants coming in the millions who then pool in immigrant communities, the best you could hope for is hybrid cultures as future generations in your streets. Vancouver’s Indo gang communities are a prime example. The culture that is truly lost in time is the host countries, meaning yours!

What I would like to know is whether MSM writers are really just completely not intellectually curious.

I mean, they knew they had a carload of Muslim women in a place it would be impossible to get to, but faithfully reported the story that it was probably a "driving practice" accident. That story should have triggered alarm bells *without* the cultural link.

Honor killing. A Cannadian tradition now in any city near you?
These folks act like rabid animals towards themselves & families. How will they treat those who don't share love for the blood God Allah?
I think we know. A bloody sword & chopped heads.
Why are we allowing this culture of killing into this Nation again? Peoples who hate us? In fact bragg they are taking us over? Madness.
JMO

"Mysterious Death Of 4 Quebecers Baffles Kingston Police."

It's a lot easier to sleep at night if you're only "baffled" by "mysteries" while accepting car loads of murdered little girls in the name of the great progressive utopian multicultural mosaic tapestry matrix. PBUI

I don't know what to say other than: what the hell is wrong with people?

For Muslim males who have gone on the news blaming the hotel owner. It was purchased recently by an East Indian.

The 40 ft salt water pool is part of a health club which opens at 8 a.m. The door is opened at 7 when the night clerk leaves.

Fact: Three East Indian female non-swimmers visiting the hotel for the first time went into a health club/swimming pool area early in the morning alone and when no one is on duty.

The investigation will hopefully lead to the truth.

After coming back from Europe, where I spent nearly a year in 12 countries, I am convinced that it is just a matter of time before the Euros have their backlash and there will be fighting in the streets.

Ditto for Canada.

We may be a kind and generous people, but like Danes, Swedes, Germans etc..you push them, and you will be sorry.I really don't think the Muslims have any idea of the historical background of these people, or their ability to bring a world of hurt down upon their heads..

Kursk, probably not too much fighting in the streets here in Canada. More Muslim extremists running away bravely, if I'm any judge of character.

Barbarism.

By the end of the week we will see the mainstream muslims marching in the streets in a groundswell denouncing the terrible practice of honour killings. Their ranks will include the imams of course.
CTV, CBC, The Globe & T.O. Star will be there to record this wave that rolls across the nation. Support will come from other countries and call-in radio shows will be swamped by those delivering the same message...."no more !"

Bueller............Bueller?

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090723/national/submerged_car_bodies

marion boyd should be very pleased.

mcdolty's attempt to force sharia law onto ontario has been accomplished.

what do you bet they get 3 yrs max with 'good behaviour'.

honour killing bullshyt.

Sorry about going over the line. The line is a bit fuzzy these days and it's sometime difficult to know when the rant is too rude.

It would seem that young women of the Muslim faith are more likely to die from H2O poisoning than H1N1, AGW and unregistered firearms combined.

No media outcry? No awareness initiatives? No editorials expounding on the dangers of water? No call for a liquid registry?

Odd that.

Syncro

"so it looks like they also lied on their immigration applications"

Oh, good. Let's do an "Al Capone", charge them with lying on their immigration applications, strip landed immigrant/citizenship from the lot of them, and THEN try them for murder. At least we will be able to trow them our of the country when they get out on parole in 3 to 5 years.

We've now made the News on Pajamas Media, which outlines that the Kingston Police declared it, today, as a 'honour killing' and, if confirmed, this would be the 9th such killing since 1999 in Canada.

Revise Canadian capital punishment laws. Honour killings conviction = capital punishment.

I am stunned,absolutely STUNNED,I tell ya.Was channel surfing and came across Global News just as Don Newman was expounding on how this was an honor killing! What the hell happened?

Oh goody, my home is now the nation's capitol for honor killing......that should bring the tourists in.

Bu there is one positive thing to come from this. My daughters(I have 3) no longer question why I have forbidden them from dating any man who claims he belongs to that cult of death.

And to repeat what others have said....if this does not wake up those airheaded, left wing, idiot, birkenstock sandal wearing fembots, nothing will.

The police chief did not say it was an honour killing. A relative in France emailed the police and said it was an honour killing. Also, another relative in Europe contacted the police saying it was an honour killing.

What the police chief did say, though, was that the girls shared the rights within our great country to live without fear and not have their lives cut short by members of their own family. He also said they were Canadian teenagers and had all the rights and freedom of expression of all Canadians. Speculation that this was the problem with possibly at least one of the girls.

The idea that a mother would actually kill her rebellious (mother's description) daughter is foreign to us. A teenager can be frustrating but that wouldn't lead to murder. This is most likely a boyfriend situation. If so, it will come out at the trial.

If this "honor" killing spree keeps up, the problem, and growing number of participants, may sort itself out.....

Just breaking, the red star has noted charges are pending against family members:

Three suspects arrested Wednesday in Montreal on their way to the airport, possibly to flee the country, are believed to the deceased sisters' father, Mohammed Shafi, his wife, and his 18-year-old son, the La Presse newspaper reported.

It beggars belief how a parent could murder a child in cold blood, regardless of this primitive, disgusting excuse for a "religion". The islamic community, excepting taraq fatah, will circle the wagons, and our liberal elite will trot out the usual bromides about islam as "The Religion of Peace®"

I think the only commentary on islam's place in a functioning society was summarized neatly by Winston Churchill.

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm

Awaiting islamist apologist column from lunatic haroon siddiqui in 3... 2... 1...

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm

Regular Poster Boy wrote: "He seemed very "assimilated", Men rule! Men decide! Coming to a country (very) near you!"

How prophetic, the 'country near you' really is.

Check out this video of 'ArabFest' in Dearborn, Michigan.

http://tinyurl.com/mx3m7f

When invited to ask questions about Islam, with the promise of answers, the crowd and security people quickly revert to form by threatening and harassing the (apparently) Christian videographer who dared to take them up on the offer.

Now yes, you could say that it's pushing their buttons to be so brazen as to take them at their word, but this kind of behavior is beyond the pale in either the U.S. or Canada.

They know however that there will never be any push-back or even exposure of their thug methods, so as far as their concerned, it's all good.

See? We're all enlightened now!

http://tinyurl.com/nbxlwe

Eastern Paul, you so poetically put into words what I was thinking. These honour killings may be the solution to the Muslim problem world wide. There will be no females left to reproduce!

"A psychiatry professor at Newfoundland's Memorial University who has studied so-called honour killings said he is working with Justice Canada to define the term in the hopes that it will be included in the Criminal Code.

"The legal system in Canada was not familiar up to now about the context of honour killing and now cases are coming up," said Dr. Amin Muhammad, who estimated it has surfaced in about a dozen cases in Canada."

"Honour" killings are murder, something I'm pretty sure is already in the CC.

CP, via Dust My Broom