Maybe this guy can do a home simulation of the World Trade Centre as well.

That doesn't make any sense at all. What kind of film was used each time, what filters and settings?

What was the temp the years before and after 1984?

how completely and utterly incompetent is this guy? Has he ever heard of Photoshop? Warming / cooling filters? Lighting? Is he even aware of the term white balance as it applies to digital images?

1984 was analogue film, 2009 was digital scanning, thus,
without standard indicators, we have no data here. Of course,
I run my monitor at 7,500K, so what do I know?

Actually my theory is that global warming affects a cameras contrast and color saturation. For proof just look back 50 years or so, things were so cold that cameras were black and white!

The second photograph is sepia-toned. That's the difference.
I'm beginning to wonder how daft you need to be to get into Princeton.

Exactly, look closely, folks: in 1984 the CN Tower is brown, in
2009 it's blue. So of course the water is bluer in 2009. However,
if I'm not mistaken, that font is from the Inspector Rather memos.

The 1984 photo looks like a warming filter was used or it was taken at a time of day with more red than blue in the available light. We won't even mention the colour saturation tool in most raw processing packages and photo editors.

Ah yes, the Inspector Dan Rather Mysteries.
"My name is Rather. And I'm a dick."
Good times.

As a photographer for the last 35 years, his entire post made me wince in embarrassment for the poor guy.  I was tempted to take his 1984 photo and re-balance it in Photoshop to make it look like the 2009 photo, but then I figured "What's the point?"

The clue train has left the station.  And he's not on it.

He makes his living on "alternative energy"... No need for him to be intellectually honest or anything... Seriously... Al Gore said so...

How can you argue with hard global warming science like this?

I seem to be even more white now that global warming is here. Maybe I should find a picture from the eighties and replicate this same ridgid, tighly controlled scientific experiment to verify my hypothesis.

I will get back to you on the outcome.... :)

More solid evidence.....????
Check at WUWT for the new GISS climate history....
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/28/nasa-giss-adjustments-galore-rewriting-climate-history/#more-8991
This guy is amateur night actually......

Excellent.
Now that global warming has been definitively proven by Hsu, we eagerly anticipate its arrival here in Manitoba.
So far I've had to wear a sweatshirt for all of our softball games, so with global warming (and July) soon to be here, I'm looking forward to wearing shirtsleeves!!

I want this magician to take photos of myself that make me look young and pretty.

I bet he could!

I read some of the comments on that page and am amazed (but shouldn't be surprised I suppose) that people actually believe this is "proof" of global warming. Absolutely pathetic.

And in breaking news, polar bears are still white and are not endangered but their numbers are growing. And growing significantly enough that Euro-warmingists are censoring the news.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5664069/Polar-bear-expert-barred-by-global-warmists.html

Well somebody seems qualified for a senior IPCC post.

Can't fight logic and photographic evidence like that.

"Stay at Home Dad" = too sensitive for this world fluffy bunny. Couldn't cut it. He's clearly spent too much time with the kids and it has effected his brain, as it sometimes does with females. Sad.

PS: science is bunk.

A few days of rain and the cloud cover or lack of it all determine what the ground looks like.

These photos mean nothing.

No, science is bed. Engineering is bunk.
That's why we work together: bunk-beds.

I remember being in a picture with a flower garden behind me in the 1950s
a neighbor took the picture and I was amaazed at the photo depiction of that flowr bed
wonderful vibrant colors..
which I remebered as dusty and drab
I went back,photo in hand...and yup dusty and drab still

This is so much like GISS/NOAC . . . secret UHI and ToD "adjustments" that support a pre-determined conclusion.

A more logical explanation for the ever increasing temperature meltdown is the continuing increase in Porter Airlines takeoffs and landings at the Island Airport plus the heat from their ever busier reservation computers. Mayor Dorkington tearing his hair out about this also contributes to global warming.

I just plotted average world temperatures for the last ten years i.e. to be fair to the Warmists, I didn't include the wildly anomalous value for 1998. The average has dropped 0.3 degrees over the decade.

How the hell does someone who can't even do simple graphics earn a PhD? Sheesh. Higher education ain't what it used to be.

Garth, I have been an amateur photographer for a couple of years and I slapped the earlier pic into LightRoom and twiddled the knobs. Oddly the BoM building went from yellow to white and Toronto Island got quite green. Lake Ontario looked bluer.

Didn't prove a thing...and won't to a warmist who thinks he's found yet another wee bit of evidence to attest to his religion.

The photographic aspect of this nonsense is so glaring that it is not surprising that everyone focuses on it.

Beyond that, people who are not familiar with the islands need to understand that it is not a pristene wilderness affected by nature alone. It is an environment managed by gardeners, arborists and other city of Toronto park workers.

Simply, what the islands look like today, or will in another 25 years, is as much because of human influence as by nature.

I lived 17 years in down Toronot close to
CN tower areas and I loved people in Down town attitude but house was too small and expensive

school is awful but university is great courses
are warm people in Toronto

i went 7 years in North york and I loved the house but I hate peopel attiture in North York are very bully school is very good

I know Toronto close to 25 years how much it
changed

Toronto is good for university education and financial building and some sport and entertainment young people like it more
are more employee of bank with not high income live office blue colour kind of people but polite

North York good for family and safer to live but not less communication
and must have good source of income to live here
good for shopping , not polite people

scarborough is good for people with mix and low income to live and mix with industrial and commercial unit

Mississauga for mid class people

Personally--I think it's just two different qualities of film and/or colour resolution.

JJH

D'you know, I think we've been underestimating new. Read the post @8:32 as if it were a poem in a sort of Ogden Nash/e.e. cummings style. I kinda like it.
And I like the idea of calling our cultural Mecca "Toronot" or "Toronoto". That's pretty.
Maybe I shouldn't feed, but I don't exactly think of her as a troll.

Oops that should be signed: JJK

Thank god you corrected that.

You guys, this is what -all- their "evidence" looks like.

Black Mamba said: "Maybe I shouldn't feed, but I don't exactly think of her as a troll."

Maybe more of a crazy, smelly old aunt who lives in the attic?

Maybe there was a water shortage in 1984. Bluer water would then equate to less sediment in suspension deposited by the lower water runoff.

WTF??? Beyond discussion, analysis, debate or even comment.

Apparently not.

Good Lord Phantom, there are laws against that sort of thing.
But I guess if you were going to go all Mr. Rochester on someone, in this day and age, you might provide internet access as a humane diversion.

My wife is a professional photographer and I showed her the pictures and the author's comments and she fell over, laughing hysterically.

As has been commented, lighting, time of day, camera settings, are all variables here.

Physics Phd. eh?

Sadly, he wasn't in the bunk-bed department.

Come on Mamba, I didn't say she was -locked- in the attic. We boot her outside on Christmas, Easter and Canada Day. Whether she needs it or not. ~:)

There is no way that 'new' can have lived 25 years in Toronto, have attended university - and speak and write English as badly as she does. Therefore, her half-baked comments are a fraud.

As previously noted, sometimes she 'forgets' to troll and spells words correctly, or uses the correct grammatical structure. Trolls are still trolls.

That's nice. I hope she got out for the Gay Pride Parade.

You both know better than that.

Pathetic. The only way to deal with assclowns like this is with ridicule and derisive laughter.

It would be a hoot if a group of 'deniers' could attend a public AGW rally having rigged themselves beforehand with a nitrous oxide (laughing gas) apparatus, and at the opportune time, turn it on in unison, as one of the zealots starts his spiel.

Hey, this stuff works in slapstick and the movies.... I've seen it! Can picture Tim Conway already...

Yessir.

The dumbing down of our world really frightens me. The level of curiosity has decreased, remember when going to University really meant you knew something, or had learned something?

I'll go with sewage.

Ach, ye' blew yer line, Speedy. It's: I'll go with
sewage for $200, Frank. And the answer is: At
what age should children be allowed to sew?

A snapshot in time is weather, not climate.

Good grief folks. What was the photo technology in 1984? Lens coatings affect spectral response. The film emulsion itself varied significantly in those days of color film. Was this Ektachrome? Vericolor? Kodachrome?

Was the 2009 photo digital or analogue? We are expected to accept a comparison of the two?

There is no reference in either photo to set white balance, or exposure. (e.g. simple 18% reflective gray card). No MacBeth color reference.

This is amateur beyond all credibility. Anything to promote the fraud to the gullible. Tax, tax, tax, and piss away, piss away, piss away. I am sick to death of it all.

No you're not. You're still alive.

"What's bad about the global warming deniers is that they make statements they know are wrong in order to mislead and deceive us."

This quote wins t3h 1nt3Rne7z!

Pot. Kettle. Kettle. Pot.

What a complete buffoon.

Gesundheit!

Colin from MBC - wow, haven't seen Leetspeak around in a long time!

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One of my children asked why mom and I don't have our physics degrees "framed on the wall" (my lady asked me if we still had them somewhere!)...Well, I now have an answer for her. :-)

Seriously, though...the presumption that one requires a degree to validate ones opinions is pernicious.

Things are greener today than they used to be.

I was just noticing that tonight as I was watching Star Trek(NG)--Dr Crusher's uniform is a whole lot greener now than it was back in 1991.

Hi Tenebris - if your comment referred to mine, perhaps I should explain. The person who posted the article in question has a doctorate in physics from Princeton. I wasn't saying people need a degree to have valid comments - but was rather inferring that those with degrees, especially in the science fields, should know better than to post misinformation as he did.

Erik - wasn't replying directly to you. A nut with a PhD is still a nut. On my cynical (realistic?) days, I estimate 20% of our PhDs are capable of sustained, integrated thought. So, as to such people knowing better? Well, there is theory and then there is practice.

Vitruvius, you are in fine form this evening! Quite so. I am still alive. I am sick nearly to death? Will that pass muster?

3 spades...

C'mon, all you denialists. Admit now the error of your ways. These photos only add to the great body of learned proof for global warming.

I've been doing some research of my own and I have to concur with this fellow: the island is indeed greener than ever. Why, historical photos from the 19th Century reveal that it was a monotone brown/sepia colour back then.

Worse still, according to archival photographs, by the early 20th Century, the islands - and the city of Toronto itself - all seem to have been coloured in various shades of grey.

And if this guy would just look a few miles to his right, he'd see fire melting steel, 24/7!

You know, there are times when it is better not to know the education/qualifications of some bloggers.

Because it reflects badly on the institution they claim to come from.

This Toronto kind of guy is clearly an up and coming Liberal politician.

Poor bugger.

Remember, this is what they consider valid "evidence" of AGW.

Contrary to what his blog says, what he wrote was not worth writing down. To claim they can see "global warming" in pictures taken 25 years apart is pretty absurd. There are several factors that could cause the differences between pictures including different lighting, better cameras (lenses), change in smog levels, the fact that plants grow quite a bit in 25 years.

This is typical of the evidence they use to justify Green Tyranny since reality is not co-operating and their lies are being rejected.

A wise teacher (not a socialist) once told me that PHD's tended to be people who knew a lot about very little. Looks like he was right about this guy.

I'm curious how long it will be before the debate is over and the non-global climate change people are going to be forced to swallow it. Things will come to a head soon, I just don't know how soon. How can you argue with a zealot and help them see reason, or fact? It's a mental disease, but it's no laughing matter.

I have photographic evidence that over only the past thirty years, global warming has caused my child to go from a state of pink and wrinkledness to a state of utter adulthood! I can show you the steady degradation! Does this qualify me to become a Liebaral?

A nut with a PhD is still a nut.
~Tenebris at June 30, 2009 12:45 AM

He was born in Chicago, Illinois, where, as an intellectual child prodigy, he excelled academically from an early age. He received an undergraduate degree from Harvard University and earned a PhD in mathematics from the University of Michigan. He became an assistant professor at the University of California, Berkeley at age 25 but resigned two years later.
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He decided to start a bombing campaign after watching the wilderness around his home get destroyed by development.

Who is HE?

This idiot obviously doesn't know about exposure, aperture, weather conditions, time of day, camera white balance, camera model, saturation, contrast, and about 40,000 other things.

What a twit. You can process the save photo a million different ways and every camera is different.

Oz

I presume you refer to Ted Kaczynski (sp?) aka the Unabomber?

Yes, Jason.
About the time that Obama starts frog marching climate deniers into re-education camps, the Unabomber will be declared rehabilitated or a political prisoner and released.

Zero will probably create a new Presidential citation and pin a wooden medal on his chest.

Theodore John Kaczynski will still be a nut with a PhD.

The shame of Queens Univerity Physics program.

What's even more entertaining about his blog is that he can't seem to figure out where all the 'deniers-trolls' came from.
Wonder if he knows anything about Saskatchewan.