"It was a bit of a pain because there were all these women who suddenly wanted to be lesbians, but they didn’t actually terribly want to sleep with women."
Posted by Kate at June 23, 2009 9:12 PMInteresting. A journey through the Valley of the Mentally Ill.
Posted by: dmorris at June 23, 2009 10:59 PMI'm sick to bloody death of "angry wimmin." Suck it up. Everybody's got something to be angry about and anger can be a great catalyst to get some positive things done, but it's never good as just a missile to annihilate those you "hate" or have issues with.
'Once had a friend (female) who'd had it with guys. She was divorced with kids and had a number of heterosexual relationships that didn't work out. We're talking the early '70s.
One day, when we were having a tête a tête, she shared that she'd been at a friend's party and had ended up staying the night. 'Natch, her friend was another woman. For a couple of years, my friend was in this woman-on-woman relationship. I can't call it a lesbian relationship because my friend was definitely not a lesbian. She'd just given up on men ... temporarily.
A lot of the gay culture has nothing to do with inherent sexual orientation. It's a choice. In an age where anything goes and we're-way-past-trying-to-shock-our-parents-and-we-just-do-what-we-damned-well-want, checking out same-sex relationships is happening all the time. I guess people feel they've got all the time in the world to waste.
Angry wimmin need to check out forgiveness and reaching out, and leave behind the narcissistic looking in the mirror for love.
Posted by: batb at June 23, 2009 10:59 PMMy heart sank when I realized it wasn't a inside look at the Liberal Party Of Canada.
Posted by: wuberman at June 23, 2009 11:14 PMIn the late 80s/90s it was called Gay Until Graduation. Girls who liked the Idea of being a lesbian but not the 'yuckiness'/work/techniques actually involved. Mostly they liked rainbow doohickes and shocking their parents at thanksgiving and Lilith Fair.
Of all the lesbians I've met in my life, on the Left and otherwise, all but one later went back to being straight, the one who didn't had been straight for most of her life -- and was one of the chicks behind the Canadian gay marriage campaign.
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at June 23, 2009 11:38 PMReminds me of an old joke- but with a 180 twist, (or would that be only about 110)?
Seems an old cowboy sat down at Starbucks and ordered a cup of coffee. As he sat sipping his beverage, a young lady sat down on the stool next to him.
She turned to the cowboy and asked, "Are you a real cowboy?"
He replied, "Well, I've spent my whole life breaking colts, working cows, fixing fence, going to rodeos, pulling calves, baling hay, doctoring calves, cleaning barn, fixing my tractor, so yeah, I guess I'm a cowboy. How about you, young lady? What's your story?"
She said, "I'm a lesbian. I spend my whole day thinking of women. As soon as I get up in the morning I think about women. When I shower, I think about women, when I watch TV, I think about women. I even think about women when I eat. It seems that everything makes me think of women."
The two sat sipping in silence.
A little while later, a man sat down on the other side of the old cowboy and asked, "Are you a real cowboy?"
He replied, "I always thought I was, but I just found out that I'm a lesbian."
Snagglepuss, real funny, LOL
Posted by: Ken at June 24, 2009 12:17 AMI always really liked lesbians when Penthouse used to put out the photo essays.
then I saw them for real and up close and found out they were overweight birkenstock types with the hair backcombed on their legs to hold up their wooly socks. butch does and armpits that looked like they had trapped a taratula.
arms so big they made Michelle Obamas wookie grabbers look like toothpicks.
no thanks.
Posted by: cal2 at June 24, 2009 1:01 AM"hair backcombed on their legs to hold up their wooly socks. butch does and armpits that looked like they had trapped a taratula"
I'm speechless!
Posted by: Soccermom at June 24, 2009 1:24 AMWhat exactly is a "social construct"?
Apparently race is considered one too, and the argument is that the proper term to describe minorities (those in North America at least, who of course are majorities elsewhere) is "racialized".
Meanwhile, the irony is that the same activists who would be outraged if a conservative claimed a gay person could go straight if he wanted to, are deluded enough to believe that straight people can go gay if they want to, or if they think they are supposed to, or if they are ordered to.
Posted by: nv53 at June 24, 2009 2:06 AMSnagglepuss,thanks! It's nice to start the day with a laugh.
Posted by: dmorris at June 24, 2009 7:33 AMIf sexuality is a social construct then it can be changed. As such, it isn't an inherent trait and you should be accountable for your choice. In other words then, you aren't being a bigot for being anti-gay because it isn't part of the person, it's a choice. Bigotry is only wrong when it targets traits that are no fault of the target like colour or gender.
I don't think this leftard has thought through the ramifications of her foolish and stupid ideas.
There are nutty Christian groups in the US who try to "fix" gay people and "turn" them "back" into straight people. It isn't any less nutty than this leftard attempting the opposite.
Posted by: Jason at June 24, 2009 9:36 AMSome 'nutty' Christian groups, like Focus on the Family, have been quite successful in converting homosexuals from the error of their ways back into straight people. What is so 'nutty' about that? As long as they're happy I commend them for it.
Posted by: Herman at June 24, 2009 9:51 AMHerman,
It's called denial and the need to "be normal." There was no real sucess any more than the crank "psychologists" were doing real work when they talked a bunch of kids into believing they were the victim of abuse which never happened.
Posted by: Jason at June 24, 2009 10:45 AM
I still get a laugh at Svend Robinson,Libby Davies, and Ontario Liberal Kathlene Wynne.
Seems that all 3 of them chose to turn gay right before their dive into Politics or to further that career.
Svend,Libby and Kathlene were classified as Married to opposit gender spouses according to the same Law they now want for Same-Gender Marriages to be recognized.
So maybe the GayStapo militants thay keep asserting that they are BORN that way can explain to me which one of the Truths is the correct one?
If these 3 yahoos are gay then they reveal how easy it is for them to lie and mislead people as manipulative sociopathic Liar until it suited their goals to go public with the real story of their sexual preference....OR,prentending to be Gay is now a fad to assure Employment for life within Politics or any Public Sector union .
It can't be both ways,after all.....the real Svend Robinson was exposed for the Liar and thief he was when he was caught on video stealing a $60'000.00 piece of Jewelry that he denied until he had no choice to admit to it to salvage his pathetic career. Ironically, Libby Davies supported Svend during his phoney tears for the Media as he blamed Homophobia in canada for driving him to the life of crime that was always in him.
While many people (Jack Layton included) excused away Svend's criminal activity by claiming that "It wasn't like Svend to do something like that" ....... I bet to differ because it was EXACTLY like Svend,right down to the Finger Prints and video evidence of someone looking exactly like him.
If this condition is a valid mental Disorder for Homosexuals , then lets treat it and deal with the issues so Police can have another Minority group with a special dispensation for felonies to avoid being arrested and Convicted as we saw with Svend's Probation as a pathetic , hollow man with no conscience.
Roger,
That Sven was a thief is a separate issue from his sexuality. Dippers are morally repugnant creeps whether gay or straight.
There are more conservative gays than you probably realize and they'd be more likely to vote that way on a partisan basis if not for the attitude you share with too many social conservatives.
When you think about it, what does a gay man benefit from the welfare state? No dependents to claim freebees and benefits for to start with. Gay men are natural allies of libertarian, small-government policies. If we could sever the anti-gay bigotry from the conservative movement we'd have more support especially when the difference between opposition and a majority can be as low as 5% of the vote which showed up.
I worked in Toronto for many years. There are thousands of gay men working on Bay street (most of which are in the closet - at least nominally.) They are fiscally conservative.
(lesbians are different as they are the prime beneficiaries of big-state welfare government although you'd probably be surprised at the number of lesbo professionals in the private sector.)
If you want to win, you need to stop driving away potential supporters.
Posted by: Jason at June 24, 2009 11:24 AMYou're wrong, Jason. I've read the testimonies of the people who are now happily married. But they don't consider homosexuality to be normal and neither do I.
Posted by: Herman at June 24, 2009 11:45 AMHerman
Some people think they're Napoleon. That doesn't make it so.
At what point in your life did you "choose" to be straight? I know there was no decision on my part. At some point in public school girls went from icky to pretty damn interesting and no choice had to be made on the matter. I didn't one day come to the conclusion that I had to sit down and think hard on what was going to get my blood going - it went on its own without my having to put any thought at all into it.
What makes you think anyone else's preferences come differently?
All of which is beside the point of the thread. Feminazi, bigot hypocrites are cretin degenerates. As are all militant leftards.
Lesbians Get Edjumacated
So where have all the lesbians gone, long time passing?
Actually, they've all gone to Radcliffe, Vassar, Wellesley, Smith, Sarah Lawrence, etc, etc.
Interestingly enough, prestigious girls' schools have mimicked the activity in lavendar Catholic seminaries.
They each reflect light on the other.
So many lesbians poured into prestigious women's colleges that eventually they began to be dominant in teaching and administrative roles.
And like their counterpart in lavendar seminaries the dominance in teaching and administration was a springboard in the direction of becoming a totally gay scene.
And once this problem gets entrenched it becomes very difficult to change. I think the message may be that regardless of how tolerant one feels about gays and lesbians, one really needs to avoid their congregation into leadership positions and administration. Because then they begin to resemble the basic structure of bath houses more than their original intention.
I would very much recommend that people avoid sending their girls to these girls' colleges which are now notorious for their lesbian domination.
Posted by: Greg in Dallas at June 24, 2009 12:01 PMThe Observer: Tee party
The LPGA won't admit it but the lesbian bars and clubs in Palm Springs tell the real story. Veronica Lee found that the thousands of women who turn up for the Dinah Shore Classic aren't all there for the golf
Palm Springs, California, springtime. There is a golf tournament in town and thousands of women have arrived, but not to watch the sport. Instead they are here for some other sport Ð one long party, with nudity, girl-on-girl action and go-go dancers simulating sex on stage. Much to the chagrin of the tournament's organiser, the LPGA, and its sponsor Nabisco, this elite event has become a sapphic debauch writ large, as lesbians from all over America converge in the desert for the Dinah Shore Classic.
Posted by: Birkenstock Babe at June 24, 2009 1:21 PMJason: I'm only reacting to your calling Christians nutty. That's your judgment and your freedom to express it. It is not based on fact or anything. I know that homosexuals have become happier in heterosexual relationships.
I may be a 'nutty' Christian for believing that homosexual behaviour is abnormal. St. Paul even calls it a perversion. This is a free country Jason, and you're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. You can call me abnormal if you like for being heterosexual. Won't hurt my feelings.
Posted by: Herman at June 24, 2009 1:55 PMI think the bible has all you need to know about homosexuality.
Lev 18:22-23 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
Lev 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death."
Homosexuality is Condemned in the Bible!
Posted by: FREE at June 24, 2009 2:51 PMLesbianism is not specifically condemned in the bible.
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