All on the taxpayers dime;
"I have a file. I'm sure I have 1,200, certainly several hundred of these things".
Let's make better use of their time. BCF offers instructions on how to file an access to information request.
More.
Posted by Kate at June 23, 2009 10:14 AMThere is an agenda out there
Yes, there is, Ms. Lynch, but I'm referring to your agenda of suppressing free speech.
Posted by: Silicon Valley Jim at June 23, 2009 10:17 AMEvidently freedom of speech is an American concept but an unelected bureaucrat keeping a list of her organization's critics is a Canadian one.
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at June 23, 2009 10:37 AMScaramouche has sent a scathing letter to the PM.
"As someone who has questioned Canada’s human rights apparatus on many occasions, both in letters to the editor and on my blog, I am disgusted--no, sickened--that in a democracy such as ours a powerful official is collecting evidence of dissent..."
http://scaramouche.us.splinder.com/post/775555
She keeps files on all who criticize her via the Internet and Media, how much is that costing me?
Then is she bragging or complaining about the volume?
I think this statement explains everything you need to know...'individuals should have the right equal to others to make for themselves a life they are able and wish to have,'... it says NOTHING, is a broad and obscure reference to a mandate that she apparently does not understand.
Everyone has the same opportunity to make the life they want, this constant equalization is what creates the classes and hardens racial groups whose existence seem to perplex the Liberal left.
If you enable an attitude of inequality then you get a group of people who can blame every ill in their lives, their lack of success and will to change their lives on others, then give them a way to get further confirmation of the inequality legally is making the situation worse.
I am against hate crimes, which are a whole other issue, but when you allow the validation of inequality by "compensating" for a perceived imbalance you simply create a self defeating loop.
The premise that should be being discussed is not the format or record of the CHRCs or their actions, it should be the requirement for them in the first place, some Conservatives have started down that path, so we will see.
.....
BTW the link to DG's blog is a non-link, an un-link, ill-linked, broke, busted, has ceased to be a link.
Posted by: Illiquid Assets at June 23, 2009 10:45 AMI guess it is part of their $25-million/year budget.
That's what taxapayers are funding during a recession!
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at June 23, 2009 11:05 AMFunny thing, when cleaning up a rats nest one rarely sees a rat. There's a bunch of rat s**t, it stinks and somewhere under the old bale pile you can hear the rats scurrying for cover. Just keep feeding them bait and disturbing their nests folks, they're starting to squeal!
Posted by: DougInPA at June 23, 2009 11:13 AMAre they getting lessons from the Stasi ?
1,200 files? Names, give us the names/blogs!
Posted by: Agent Smith at June 23, 2009 11:22 AM1200 or 300, same thing, cause it " balances"
Almost every single newspaper , every single writer, journalist, editor, blogger, and poster, I've read is against her jack booted rendition of history and her place in it.
She's "full frontally" unbalanced and should be FIRED and her empire burned down, it's disgusting,
That she thinks she's "balanced" is "full frontal" indeed; what a dangerous idiot.
I look forward to more comedy "debating" a "balance of a matrix of spheres' against our God given rights.
richfisher # 301 or 1201, whatever
Posted by: richfisher at June 23, 2009 11:24 AMVery good post Illiquid Assets. I fully agree.
Posted by: Chairman Kaga at June 23, 2009 11:28 AMI would not hold my breath re FOI request. It's been how long since I sent one to CIC? More than a month now - they have not responded. Can charge them with willful contravention of the act of Parliament, 2 years in the pen.
Posted by: Aaron at June 23, 2009 11:31 AMGiven her obviously paranoid state, I would be a bit suprised to hear that she wasn't compiling such a list. Even more striking (for me, at least) was this quote from the National Post article.
"The Criminal Code plays a very valid role. However, when we look at the statistics, we find that there aren't a lot of specialized [police] hate teams across the country,"
I take that to mean that we need to keep the CHRC because the real legal system isn't fielding "hate teams" in sufficient numbers to suit Ms. Lynch.
What next? More budget for the CHRC so that it can deploy its own "hate teams" across the country?
Although she'll probably tell them to stay well clear of Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant.
Posted by: BCH at June 23, 2009 11:32 AMShe does look and act like a good little Nazi doesn't she ? Can't recall anyone quite as sanctimonious and smarmy - both at the same time.
Just another useless socialist civil servant with her permanent lip lock on the public teat, wasting taxpayer dollars that could be put to good use - like more health care or new equipment for our grossly underfunded Armed Forces.
Funny how she reacts when John Q Public pushes back and her gravy train is threatened . . . just like J Edgar Hoover . . . "I have files".
Secret files no doubt. Like she would prefer that her lavish travel expenses were kept secret.
The CHRC is completely useless. The sooner Lynch et al are standing in some breadline somewhere after their EI has run out the better off Canada will be.
No more Star Chamber secret tribunals run by mini-me fascists or Kangaroo courts operated by over paid apparatchiks.
Get rid of them all.
Illiquid Assets nailed it !! (may be illiquid, but certainly an asset to sda :)
Posted by: ron in kelowna at June 23, 2009 11:44 AMI believe we should be very afraid that this self important, thought-nazi, has any position in the Canadian Government.
The belief that she should be the arbitrator of idea's and wants truth to be removed from the Ciminal Code, show's just how disconnected her and her agency is.
As Ezra say's, fire them all.
Posted by: robins111 at June 23, 2009 11:52 AMI believe we should be very afraid that this self important, thought-nazi, has any position in the Canadian Government.
The belief that she should be the arbitrator of idea's and wants truth to be removed from the Ciminal Code, show's just how disconnected her and her agency is.
As Ezra say's, fire them all.
Posted by: robins111 at June 23, 2009 11:53 AMI just to Pete Vere, last year he interviewed a spokesman for the CHRC. In discussion prior to the formal Q&A Pete informs me that the CHRC rep creeped him out - he was familiar with Pete's work and general history going back several years. Just a PR guy doing his job I assume, but as Jay Currie notes it isn't a concern that our published opinions are being collected, it's the personal data that matters - how is that being used? How are we dissidents being characterized? By whom? To what end?
Posted by: Blazingcatfur at June 23, 2009 12:26 PMIts time to compile a list of all of the people who work at all of the "human rights" commissions. What have they said and written? Who have they worked for and supported? What organizations have they belonged to?
Posted by: Fritz at June 23, 2009 12:42 PMLooks like it's time for a Lynch mob before the Lynching continues.
BTW: PMSH - What are you thinking??
Posted by: Anne (not from Cornwall) at June 23, 2009 12:44 PMSorry, she makes $300,000 a year? >>>Cough
I guess I would fight pretty hard to keep that gig going as well.
Would she do the job for less? That is an obscene salary given the scope of the work.
Posted by: Stephen at June 23, 2009 12:47 PMJenny is just trying to out do 'faux Nazi' Richard Warman. She comes right out, as BCH and the National Post article observe, and says she wants full blown "HATE SPEECH POLICE" teams right across Canada.
Just a second there Jenny, and we'll get a pair of "double S runes" made up for your lapel collar. We would like to thank Geheime Staats Polizei Obersturmbahnfuhrer Lynch for zis outstanding suggestion to turn Canada into a police state.
It is plainly evident that this bureaucrat with over-sized ambitions is completely enamored with her own authority and sees no rational bounds for her HRC inquiries.
If it hasn't occurred to her already, people have developed the use of insults, for those people who have become so detached of reality, that they live in their own little bureaucratic fantasy construct world completely oblivious to the non-bureaucratic or real world around them.
Jenny wishes to add insult to injury to an already severely injured 'free speech' by castrating it in entirety. Well Jenny is too obtuse to figure out that leaving the plane of rational discourse invites the abuse of derisive jokes.
Jenny you have made yourself into the joke.
We can see it now:
"Vy haf you engaged in hate speech?"
"Vee haf vays of securing your cooperation, javohl!?!"
There is nothing in Canadian law that says you have to be NICE to other people in one's speech.
If we needed a commandment to be NICE, maybe we could take our cue from the following:
"Do not give dogs what is holy; and do not throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under foot and turn to attack you."
"So whatever you wish that men would do to you, do so to them" (Matthew 7:12)
Jenny is trying remove insults from language by force of law, and invites only derision. Parliament may as well enact the LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR ACT. But you can't force people to love each other, that is the choice of the free individual and certainly not anywhere near the grasp of the state to enforce.
Nobody is buying the schtick that Jenny is the magnificent slayer of HATE SPEECH in Canada.
What most people instinctively hate are overgrown bureaucrats who have far too high opinion of themselves and how the government can legislate Canadians to be NICE.
Well if Parliamentary antics are any guide, the proposition that the state can make people behave in or out of the grasp of the HRCs, the ringing conclusion would be that this is simply way beyond Jenny's comprehension or even the notion of what it means to be part of the human species.
What Jenny needs to do is grow a thicker skin and get out of her Gestapo uniform. Welcome to the planet Jenny, insults are a part of life. Don't let your S.13 retirement plan kick you in the keester on your way out the door.
If Jenny didn't behave like a moron, we wouldn't treat her like a moron.
The disabled who are deaf, dumb, and blind are more responsive than the ideologically blinkered Jenny. Maybe it would take a bureaucratic Christ to redeem this poor leper.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group "True North"
I wonder if Jenny has Googled this little gem about her?
http://ezralevant.com/2008/10/jennifer-lynch-and-the-conserv.html
Ms. Lynch must have a sweet deal on the commission to so readily make an ass of herself in the press.
Posted by: Mazzuchelli at June 23, 2009 1:58 PMI sure hope I made her list, I'd be devistated to learn I haven't offended her and her marxist ilk.
Posted by: Rose at June 23, 2009 2:09 PMJenny most likely isn't very good at math.I'm sure there have been more than 1200 negative responses to the self appointed thought cops. Calling her Jenny probably qualifies as an insult to her dignity after all isn't that the name of a beast of burden?
Posted by: Speedy at June 23, 2009 2:13 PMWas this list composed while being paid by the taxpayer? If so, WE own the list and also it is PRIVATE n'est pas?
Reminds of George Orwell's 1984 and big brother - and on the taxpayer dimne to boot!
Who does this owman answer to? Is she in a particular minkstry? If so, who is the Minister?
Any relation to McCarthy?
"I'm sure I have 1,200...."
All clearly examples of hate speech. Let the trials begin!!!
After all, the Commission is only trying to help people not harbor hateful thoughts.
Forget the "hate teams". How about "where's my money" teams?
This woman has a paranoia complex, something one would need (I imagine) to run a human rights commission.
In the face of highly-detailed, public information about the various HRC's and HRT's imbalance and abuse of process having been aired widely on radio, published in both national newspapers, and in international newspapers, and in books and magazines and letters to the editor, and on blogs, and indeed the subject of ongoing conversations between ordinary Canadian, Lynch not only continues to refuse to even deign to pretend to address the substance of those complaints, choosing instead to whine and play the victim, but now she has the unmitigated gall to announce that she, as the head of a quasi-judicial department of acceptable speech, is keeping files on those who oppose her position.
Whence does she derive her self-granted dispensation from accountability and her official right to keep files on those who oppose her position, her attitude and the tactics of the agency she oversees? Sadly, at this late, past-due date, she derives it from the current Conservative government. The Conservatives, and conservative voters, are certainly not responsible for the cultural mindset she displays, but it's beyond dispute at this point that she's functioning with their approval.
It's a shame. I've always felt that when it comes to permanently dismantling the CHRC's abuse of process, the grass-roots, cultural approach is best, and I still believe that that's the only way to ensure that the CHRCs won't be tossed back into a position of unscrutinized power whenever the next Liberal government gets in. But now that cultural opposition to the ridiculous mentality and unfairness and abuses of the Section 13-ers has reached a certain critical mass -- just read comments at even The Star or the Globe and Mail to understand the extent of it -- the fact that Lynch is still the Commissioner and still spouting her disturbing, unaccountable, self-laudatory pap gives the appearance that the Conservatives, instead of merely having been waiting for an opportunity for reform, are choosing to circle the wagons around her.
What a shame. Even if the Conservatives were to decide that the CHRC should continue to exist in its current form and that section 13 remain in effect, Lynch absolutely has to go.
I really hope Mr. Harper and the Conservatives have an ear to the ground on this one. If they don't they're making a huge mistake. A few voters will switch allegiances out of disgust with what appears to be either Conservative support for Ms. Lynch and her ilk or a deaf ear to the concerns of constituents, but what's more likely, and more significant, is the extent to which former Conservative voters will not vote at all and/or won't donate to the party because of this.
There isn't a single Conservative Cabinet Minister who would even dream that he/she could get away with being one-fiftieth as unaccountable to serious, detailed, widely-disseminated public criticism as Lynch. I really hope that the Conservatives don't underestimate the extent to which the grass-roots find Ms. Lynch's attitude to be not only disturbing, but also, at this point, a reflection of -- a spokeswoman for, in effect -- the views of the current government.
Posted by: EBD at June 23, 2009 2:32 PMHey, hey, ho, ho, Jenny Lynch has got to go....
If she's surfing blogs, could she be trolling as well?
What does one do to put in $300,000 per annum worth of time?
Posted by: Liz J at June 23, 2009 2:48 PMI believe, from reading about what she's been doing, that Ms. Lynch might have a mental disorder including delusion and extreme paranoia, and that she thinks that ordinary Canadians who criticize the way the state apparatus abuses its powers to thumb down Canadians and take their rights away... are somehow "enemies of the state".
She's just like Janet Napolitano, who declared anyone who dissents from the Obama Agenda to be "right-wing extremists" and are to be treated as potential terrorists by the state apparatus.
I believe that Orwell knew what he was talking about and could very clearly see this stuff coming.
Oh, and by the way, Hi, Jennifer! :)
Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at June 23, 2009 3:12 PMPerfect ouline and comments, EBD.
You know, as a Harry Potter fan, Jennifer Lynch reminds me strongly of 'Dolores Umbridge' both in looks and ignorant self-referenced bullying behaviour.
Posted by: ET at June 23, 2009 3:12 PM"I'ma public servant responsible for giving effect to the principle that 'individuals should have the right equal to others to make for themselves a life they are able and wish to have,'
Now I know where Borat Dion went, he's ghosting for Ms Lynch
Posted by: Cal at June 23, 2009 4:34 PMSpeedy: "Calling her Jenny probably qualifies as an insult to her dignity after all isn't that the name of a beast of burden?"
Unlike "human rights" commissioners, those beasts of burden serve a useful function, so it's them who are insulted.
Posted by: Kathryn at June 23, 2009 4:38 PMWe can bitch and bellyache about the Lynch Mob at the HRC all day long, but until or unless the current Federal Conservatives revamp the monster HRC the Lynch Mob will be in the drivers seat aaaaand Jenny will keep her files intact.
8540 = the number of hits for the google search words chrc lynch ...
She's keeping list? 1200 or 300 or???
What a moron!
Go get her folks .... the Access to Information requests should swamp these little Stasi-ettes.
Posted by: Mom's Watching at June 23, 2009 4:57 PMI just had a little brainwave. Those of you who blog, you can request info from your ISP and blog host regarding who's been asking about you. Jenny's Jerks can't get a warrant, so their inquiries are not protected.
If your ISP won't spill, dump 'em.
Posted by: The Phantom at June 23, 2009 5:04 PMIncidentally, we SO need to get that woman's face on a t-shirt, or a billboard.
I see Jenny's nice picture from the National Post up on a big, beautiful billboard, with a caption that reads:
"SHUT UP!"
And then her name and office contact info.
Posted by: The Phantom at June 23, 2009 5:08 PMAccording to Ezra, Jenny was Joe Clark's former chief of staff - this explains a lot.
Of Canada's 100 worst politicians Dion was 99, Joe was No. 100
Joe Joe Joe...
Posted by: Agent Smith at June 23, 2009 5:26 PMOk, job done!
http://phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2009/06/ive-got-little-list-ive-got-little-list.html
Be nice in the comments, I'm rubbish at Gimp.
Posted by: The Phantom at June 23, 2009 6:05 PMGood post Illiquid Assets except I disagree with "I am against hate crimes". 'Hate crimes' are simply a politically correct way of justifying things like the HRCs. A crime is a crime is a crime no matter what the motive. If I should kill a Jew I should be sentenced exactly the same as if I had killed a Christian, Muslim, Black, White, Chinese, Native North American, Gay, Straight, man, woman or child. The only time my motivation should come into question is if I kill unintentionally, in self defense, or in the defense of someone else.
Posted by: Joe at June 23, 2009 6:27 PMPhantom - Not bad at all! BlazingCatFur has been holding a Lynch t-shirt slogan thing for a couple of days now, for anyone who didn't know - some v. funny suggestions.
Posted by: Black Mamba at June 23, 2009 6:29 PMI have just filled in and printed out the form. There is one point, the number of characters in the complaint space is limited in the electronic form. This is how I expressed my FOI:
In a report in the newspaper National Post, Monday, June22, 2009, written by Joseph Brean, Jennifer Lynch, chief commissioner of the Canadian Human Rights Commission, said:
"…I have a file. I'm sure I have 1,200, certainly several hundred of these things," Quote abbreviated for lack of word space. I wrote to the CHRC about their behavior; I want to see that list. Am I on it? Why is the state maintaining lists of political opponents?
"...Why is the state maintaining lists of political opponents?"
Because freedom of speech is an American concept.
Suck it up, Canucks.
Or change it.
Jennifer Lynch: "If you Google my name today you'll see how I've been attacked."
Poor baby.
'Never mind all of the innocent people, whose politically incorrect views are so offensive to her politically correct jackboots, that the HRCs have bullied, intimidated, prosecuted, and demanded their pound of flesh.
And, wouldn't you know it? She's a dyed blonde. Sheesh. No artifice here ...
Posted by: batb at June 23, 2009 10:44 PMA dyed blonde? Of course. At her age, which I estimate to be about 200 (which is about right, considering her extremely retrograde ideas about "equality"), she has to dye it.
Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at June 24, 2009 8:26 AM