too much of an opening

we are we are we are we are
we are the engineers
we can we can we can
we can demolish forty beers......

Drink rum, drink rum, drink rum, drink rum, and
come along with us, for we don't give a damn,
for any a man, who don't give a damn for us!

What they're not, is poets.

with 50% engineers on the blog this is embarrassing but necessary. verse 1

Godiva was a lady who through Coventry did ride
To show the royal villagers her fine and pure white hide
The most observant man of all, an engineer of course,
Was the only one who noticed that Godiva rode a horse

chorus as above.

That's because, Larry, you can't build a bridge out of poems ;-) Although, apparently, we're quite the minstrels, nonetheless ;-) But seriously, depending on what history you read, tonights SDA LNR feature song is probably a reference to Metropolis, or perhaps Philip K. Dick's novel The Penultimate Truth, or possibly even The Roads Must Roll by Robert A. Heinlein.

Heinlein was correct.... the most important job is to ensure the roads roll....whatever it takes.

Syncro

OMG 80's music sucks!

Nice!

Gary Numan at his best...and his only. Still, awesome. Nice choice.

Hmmm! This, including the choruses, sounds almost like one of our old army marching songs. Just change some of the words. Godiva was on a horse? Who would have thought.

London Bridge is fallin' down,
Fallin' down, fallin' down,
London Bridge is fallin' down,
Hi Ho the Derry-O!
But there was the magnificent one by Hart Crane about the "Brooklyn Bridge" sometime before he jumped off the back of the boat.

From pre-digital prehistory:

"Don't ask an engineer what time is it if you are in a hurry, or easily bored by a lecture on how to build a watch."

(I am truly sorry...)

"The Engineers have hairy ears,
They go without their britches,

..."

In belated recognition (VERY belated), tonight’s chorus was brought to you by Wellington Iron Duke, a very drinkable ale.

"OMG 80's music sucks!"

Certainly not. Smiths, Cure, Big Country, Chameleons, Depeche Mode ... many more.

You have awoken a tone deaf monster!! The Engineers LIVE!!! Run for your lives!!!

Huh. Well, I've just had the rug pulled out from under me.

Who would have guessed a lipstick and mascara-wearing English fop, of all people, would portray engineers in a sinister or unflattering manner?

(Unless, of course, Gary Numan happens to be an industrial instrument mechanic, in which case, his attitude is quite understandable.)

"I've been on this for years. But it's taken the satire, the ridicule, the occasional hyperbole for effect (that anyone with any literary training and an ear for popular culture and a sense of humor understands as hyperbole, satire, etc.) to catapult this issue to the public square."
...-

"Big Sister is watching you!

Jennifer Lynch has a file! Joseph Brean reports in the National Post:

"Please, please, look. We have experienced 16 months of invective hurled at us, and at any time when anybody has tried to speak up and correct misinformation, gross distortions, caricaturizations, then the very next day there's been some full-frontal assault through the blogs, through mainstream media. I have a file. I'm sure I have 1,200, certainly several hundred of these things," she said.

He gives her plenty of time to hurl her accusations. Then he adds:

While rebutting what she calls outright lies, the report makes barely any reference to the more sober criticisms of her hate speech mandate from mainstream critics, such as the Canadian Civil Liberites Association and Jewish advocacy groups, and also almost every newspaper editorial board in Canada. These include the lack of a legal defense of truth or scholarly or journalistic intent; the practice of accepting identical complaints simultaneously in different jurisdictions; controversial online investigative procedures such as joining white supremacist discussion groups to investigate targets; and the potential for human rights tribunals to be hijacked as political platforms.

He adds some interesting points by Richard Moon. Read the whole thing."
http://deborahgyapong.blogspot.com/

Mechanical engineers build weapons.
Civil engineers build targets.

*
mahmoud ahma-kill-em-all feels the
heavy hand of the interwebs.

*

Speaking of engineers, there is a great book out called The Man Who Bought A Navy.
It's about the salvaging of the German High Seas Fleet that was scuttled in Scapa Flow at the end of WWI.
Lots of history, and lots of interesting details on how he raised the battleships and battle cruisers and salvaged them.

"with 50% engineers on the blog..." - cal2

Well, that explains a lot, not the least my interest. With the demise of USS Clueless we are lost sheep wandering in a hostile web wilderness. And Gary Numan seems an interesting chap, although quite frankly his 'music' is quite opaque to these jaundiced ears.

I can relate to his Autism, however. I wonder if there is a syndrome for those who place social skills, getting along, ease and comfort in company on the highest plane to an extent it jeopardizes their ability to function in an increasingly complex technical world. Maybe those who cannot properly utilize their cellphone and other bits of gadgetry need a special 'syndrome' all to themselves + psychiatric help, special schools, etc. And their overwhelming desire to be 'liked' renders them too vulnerable to advertising, propaganda.....and cultural degradations like fashion and... Uh, pop music.

Certainly they should be denied access to power and political office of any kind, poor dears. Look how the Al Gores of the world play them like fiddles with twaddle such as 'global warming'. They deserve our deepest sympathy, not all - too - easy mockery.

One blogger going bankrupt .

Words missing/not used from MSM accounts* include:
Islam, Muslim(s), Islamic murderers, etc.

MSM is/are cowards, traitors; aiding and abetting
Islamic murderers.

More coverup by the Canadian "justice system":
"*None of the people named in the statement, except for Khalid, can be named under a publication ban ordered by Durno which forbids reporting any names or information that would tend to identify them."

The MSM and the Canadian "justice system" are running an open conspiracy to debauch** Canadian citizens.

That's why the MSM & the Canadian "justice sysytem" are hated/despised.
...-

*" Toronto 18 plotted to attack TSX, CSIS offices

Khalid was to help store bomb parts, sentencing hearing told
By BRIAN GRAY, SUN MEDIA
The Toronto Sun

"A terrorist plot to start the "Battle of Toronto" and blow up two downtown buildings was designed to unleash a mass wave of fear, crippling the economy and forcing Canada to pull troops out of Afghanistan, a court heard yesterday.

The sentencing hearing of Saad Khalid, 22, of Mississauga, one of the so-called Toronto 18, began yester morning before Superior Court Justice Bruce Durno with the reading of a statement of facts -- not contested by the defence -- concerning the events leading up to the June 2006 massive police bust that netted 14 adults and four youths.

The Toronto Stock Exchange, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service's Toronto offices and an unnamed military base along Hwy. 401 between Toronto and Ottawa were all targets for a planned November 2006 attack.

Rented trucks filled with homemade bombs were to be parked near these locations and they were to be detonated by cellphone.

The ringleader of the group plotting the attack wanted to see the explosions happen on three successive days rather than at the same time in order to maximize the effect on a startled population.

None of the people named in the statement, except for Khalid, can be named under a publication ban ordered by Durno which forbids reporting any names or information that would tend to identify them."
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2009/06/23/9896441-sun.html
...-

*"Toronto 18 attack was to mimic 9/11"
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/655068
...-

**debauch:

"1. To corrupt morally.
2. To lead away from excellence or virtue."
(dictcom)

Guess what word is missing from the article:

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=1722542

maz2 beat me to it

Words missing/not used from MSM/CTV account* include:
Islam, Muslim(s), Islamic murderer(s), etc.

MSM is guilty of aiding/abetting Islamic murderers as it protects Islamic murderers.
...-

*"UN document details allegations against Abdelrazik

Abousfian Abdelrazik, a Canadian man living in exile in Sudan who the government has been told to return home, is a member of a Montreal terrorist cell and has close ties to senior al Qaeda leadership, a new United Nations Security Council document alleges.

In the document posted Monday on the UN Security Council terrorist blacklist website, it's asserted that Abdelrazik trained at an al Qaeda camp and has provided administrative and logistical support to the terrorist network.

"[Abdelrazik] was a member of a cell in Montreal, Canada, whose members met in al Qaeda's Khalden training camp in Afghanistan," the document alleges."
urlm.in/cqgw

Nice, what a day! (re 'Montreal terrorist cell')
And I was almost comfortable that he was a lone loonie.

...now lets imagine it was the republicans doing it.

Dems shut down debate in House

A Republican lawmaker accused House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and congressional Democrats of "shutting down the process" in the House of Representatives to block his effort to investigate the national community organizing group ACORN.

Rep. Steve King, Iowa Republican, said in an interview on The Washington Times' morning radio show "America's Morning News" that Mrs. Pelosi and the Democratic majority had recently authorized an unprecedented change in House rules to curb the right of the minority to offer amendments to appropriations spending bills.

...

Democrats say the restrictions are needed to ensure Congress has the time to pass a dozen individual spending bills in the next few months to fund the government, while lawmakers also deal with health care and energy reform. Mr. King and other Republicans charge the rules violate the House's traditions for debate and are meant to protect Democrats from politically embarrassing votes.

"Nancy Pelosi has shut down the process and it's disgraceful," Mr. King said.

Mr. King had asked to offer two amendments related to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), which Republicans charge has worked closely with Democrats and the Obama administration on political organizing and boosting Democratic party efforts.

The amendments, which were blocked from a House floor vote, would have prevented ACORN from being eligible for federal funding and blocked its workers and chapters from helping organize or participate in the 2010 Census.

ACORN's mostly conservative critics say the Obama administration will rely on the organizing group heavily in the census count to unfairly boost the population counts of groups and areas sympathetic to liberal and Democratic causes.

ACORN officials deny any improprieties and say the group is only one of "more than 250" groups working with the Census Bureau to recruit workers for the massive national headcount.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/22/gop-lawmaker-says-dems-shut-down-debate-house/print/

Bill C-47:

16. (1) Every telecommunications service 
provider shall provide a person designated under 
subsection (3), on his or her written request, 
with any information in the service provider’s 
possession or control respecting the name, 
address, telephone number and electronic mail 
address of any subscriber to any of the service 
provider’s telecommunications services and the 
Internet protocol address, mobile identification 
number, electronic serial number, local service 
provider identifier, international mobile 
equipment identity number, international mobile 
subscriber identity number and subscrib- er 
identity module card number that are associated 
with the subscriber’s service and equipment.

...

17. (1) A police officer may request a 

telecommunications service provider to provide 

the officer with the information referred to in 

subsection 16(1) in the following circumstances:

		

(a) the officer believes on reasonable grounds 

that the urgency of the situation is such that 

the request cannot, with reasonable diligence, be 

made under that subsection;

		

(b) the officer believes on reasonable grounds 

that the information requested is immediately 

necessary to prevent an unlawful act that would 

cause serious harm to any person or to property; 

and

		

(c) the information directly concerns either the 

person who would perform the act that is likely 

to cause the harm or is the victim, or intended 

victim, of the harm.

I am confused: does it mean that any cop can request any information from any communications provider whenever they see fit? And all that's required to justify access to information is

(3) The police officer shall, within 24 
hours after making a request under subsection 
(1), communicate to a designated person employed 
in the same agency as the officer all of the 
information relating to the request that would be 
necessary if it had been made under subsection 
16(1) and inform that person of the circumstances 
referred to in paragraphs (1)(a) to (c).

That's it. They no longer need a warrant. We've created a monster!

It gets even more interesting in the sections 34-36: they deal with warrantless entry into any facility of telecommunication businesses. Read the whole act - it stinketh.

Kate:

I go to Google or Yahoo, I enter Small Dead Animals. The page will open, however if you click on the top LH symbol that says: Small Dead Animals, I get a really weird response. Perhaps it's my server?? Who knows!

re. Aaron @2:34 - ye olde intertubes are largely a mystery to me, who am only a girl, and not techno-savvy; but I've seen a lot of this teeny-tiny writing in comments recently and... can't it be made bigger? I try to be dutiful - sometimes I even try to read "new", really I'm a saint; but please! Embiggen!

Doug @11:13PM - "OMG 80's music sucks!" It does NOT! Or at least, it sucks in a good way; the synthier the better. I actually WEAR my sunglasses at night, that's how strongly I feel about it. It's a huge pain in the @ss, frankly.

Cal2 @10:28PM - "50% engineers on this blog." If you say so. Everyone in the former USSR seems to have been an engineer; finally, a similarity has been found between Communist Russia and SDA! About time too.

Mamba: there is a wheel on your mouse I hope.

Aaron - there is; what of it?

Aaron: under the bill, a warrant *IS* required before they can "eavesdrop" on private communications.

In my years online I've ever seen a false statement being so widely disseminated as "the truth." It's incredible. The "information" you refer to that they will have a right to demand is the identity/IP addy etc of a suspect, not the actual communications thereof. "Tapping" will requires a warrant exactly the same as it does for phone lines.

The bill is about getting the same access information, with a warrant, that they currently have to phone lines. Are there legitimate issue or concerns with this? I don't know, perhaps there are, but no reasonable discussion can begin when the starting point is an utter falsity.

Enough of this "they-can-intercept-your - communications -without-a-warrant" crap. It's getting bloody ridiculous, all around the blogosphere, this "Hey, guess what, those bastards will be able to eavesdrop on your internet communications without a warrant" being spread as The Truth.

Funny how that works.

Leslie Hughes(the Liberal candidate that was pulled for anti-jewish statements last election) files two lawsuits:

http://www.cjob.com/News/Local/Story.aspx?ID=1105870