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June 3, 2009

One Man's Terrorist Is Another Man's Liberal Voting Bloc

Hold on. Shouldn't this be designated a Liberal Party campaign expense?

Ottawa's Police Services Board voted unanimously Monday to ask the federal government to foot the $900,000 bill for what Chief Vern White called an "unprecedented" two-week demonstration by Tamil protesters on Wellington Street, which culminated in 30,000 people descending on Parliament Hill last Tuesday.

"It's despicable to ask the citizens of Ottawa to pay for these costs," said River Councillor Maria McRae, who moved the motion, which asks the board's chairman, West Carleton-March Councillor Eli El-Chantiry, and White to write a letter to the federal government asking them to pay the entire bill.

h/t Gordon

Posted by Kate at June 3, 2009 5:59 PM
Comments

As a Left -Wing extremist, I hate to mention this but, do any of the Tamil protesters receive any money, from the taxpayers of Canada?

If so, they should be immediately billed for their share of the costs. If not, how do they earn a living while having so much time off to join in these protests?

Posted by: dmorris at June 3, 2009 6:15 PM

McRae for mayor, first off.

Did Ottawa's demonstration have continuos, multiple helicopter support billed to the taxpayer?
Toronto faxed and emailed an Invoice customer copy by now for millions.
HUGE!

Posted by: richfisher at June 3, 2009 6:20 PM

Who's going to pay for the millions required for the Tamil protests, the take-over of a major expressway, the closure of main city roads in front of the key Toronto hospitals - in Toronto?

What did these Tamil want from Canada? They insisted that Canada impose sanctions on Sri Lanka. Why? Because they would close down our highways and roads, if we didn't agree.

That is, they rejected democracy. They instead wanted Canada to operate by the rule of thugs; that is, by threats of harm to us and violence to us.

The Liberals agreed to help them. That means that they confirmed that threats can affect the government's decisions.

To Harper's credit, he refused to participate in their anti-democratic agenda.

Do they receive government funding? Probably, because Liberal multiculturalism is all about funding isolate ethnic groups--in return for their vote.

Posted by: ET at June 3, 2009 6:24 PM

Take the money for this bill out of the 1.98 per vote, slush fund, given to the coalition MP's by Canadian voters who support MP's (Puffins/Dippers/Blocheads)who support support the Tamile Tiger Terrorists.

Posted by: Jema54 at June 3, 2009 6:29 PM

Tamils ruined one country and started ruining another. Thank you for nothing, a$$holes.

Posted by: Aaron at June 3, 2009 6:30 PM

It sucks being the nation's capital, I guess.

Posted by: Gus at June 3, 2009 6:31 PM

Snort. What's the going rate on fire extinguisher sized tear gas cans.

Ok, seriously I can understand protesting, but guys, you lost the war, and Ottawa isn;t going to do bugger all for you ( more than the vastly generous things already done) seeing as A. It's not Ottawa's war B. As Civil wars /insurrections go it's not been particulary heinous (heinous, just not especially) C. 99% of the Canadian electorate does not give a tinker's damn either way.

Posted by: Fred2 at June 3, 2009 6:31 PM

Of course I'm sure the city of Ottawa doesn't gain from having the capital located there?

Even with the cost associated with protests all the positive tourism would offset it.

Posted by: duffman at June 3, 2009 6:39 PM

Ottawa - here's a tissue for the issue. Or send the bill to the latte crowd in Toronto.

Posted by: Agent Smith at June 3, 2009 6:51 PM

duffman, I'm pretty sure that Ottawa would be counted amongst the many lumber ghost towns in Ontario w/o the Fed's.

Posted by: the bear at June 3, 2009 6:52 PM

Maybe the cops should have just done their jobs in the first place.

Posted by: John Luft at June 3, 2009 7:03 PM

Ten cops with police dogs could have handled it I'm thinking. Just because you wanted to be touchy feely is no reason we should pay for it. They were not violent and the cops closed the free way instead of slowing down traffic and restricting the protest to one lane. There were enough cop cars to form a moving barricade.

Posted by: Speedy at June 3, 2009 7:03 PM

I'd say the Tamils/Tamil Tigers should be sent the bill, it was their decision to make a nuisance of themselves and block traffic. They were playing politics, no doubt about that. The Tigers are banned as terrorists, they were defeated,we have to ensure they don't stay active in this country. It's impossible to know who is who in that "community".

Since peace has broken out in the homeland they're all so worried about maybe they should haul their butts back where their hearts are and help rebuild the place. Unless, they're all Tigers.

Posted by: Liz J at June 3, 2009 7:05 PM

I agree, the police should have done their job, maybe used firehoses, rubber bullets, or something at the first sign of protest. It was the terrorists choice to bring their kids. But, isn't that the way of terrorists, hide behind women, or in burkas or behind children. Bunch of cowards. Any welfare, child tax credits, gst rebates or tax refunds should be taken to pay the bill. Why should I pay for a bunch of feel good people who are afraid of doing their job. Votes I imagine. Deport every last one of them and seize all their assets. Send a strong message to others planning the same thing.

Posted by: MaryT at June 3, 2009 7:18 PM

If the tigers had only interspersed mohawk warrior flags amongs the AK47 terrorist flags mcGinty & fantino would be front & centre pointing out that this was just another muli-culti event that the Harper Conservatives unjustly refuse to pay for.

Posted by: The Red Fox at June 3, 2009 7:39 PM

Hey Ottawa, if you don't want to pay the bill then don't send the cops.

You can rebuild downtown instead. How'd that be?

Posted by: The Phantom at June 3, 2009 7:57 PM

Why should we pay for Toronto's or Ottawa's problems?...

MaryT. I don't know if you are joking or if you should move back to whatever East-block country you originally hail from.

Posted by: missing link at June 3, 2009 8:11 PM

I don't know, missing link, I always thought policing was largely a provincial/municipal jurisdiction. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that. I always thought that if there was, say, a Stanley Cup riot in Edmonton or Calgary, it isn't up to Ottawa -- i.e. taxpayers from other provinces -- to pay for policing.

Posted by: EBD at June 3, 2009 8:17 PM

This ludicrous request wouldn't be upon us had the crowd been warned to unclog the streets and then forcefully dispersed a few weeks ago in Toronto. How I wish the cops had gone "Seattle" on the terrorist-loving Tamil a$$es... cavalry, water guns, tear gas and arrests.

Instead we are getting double dosed and you can bet another protest will happen yet.

Canada is an utterly retarded and immature country at times.

Posted by: Mark Peters at June 3, 2009 8:32 PM

As Laurie Goldstein says, you people are all racists for not happily picking up the tab for the Tamils legitimate rights to create chaos whenever and wherever they want.

Posted by: Fritz at June 3, 2009 8:36 PM

They probably could have saved a buck or two if, oh I don't know, they addressed the problems the minute they started, instead of, in Toronto's case, letting things carry on for weeks.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at June 3, 2009 8:42 PM

Recall that T.O. Police Chief Blair insisting that the Toronto protest didn't cost the city anything...the police protection for the protest was simply done by relocating officers already on duty. Let's see if Blair will hold this position in the future, or, given Ottawa's stance, will go cap in hand to Ottawa. Yeah, that's what Miller is on to...another reason to whine for more dough from the feds....

Posted by: Lori at June 3, 2009 8:57 PM

I'm with Speedy. What did the police do to limit the disruption caused by the Tamil Tiger demonstrations to the citizenry of Ottawa?

It would appear that they didn't bring the full extent of the law to bear on this major disruption to both the flow of traffic and downtown businesses -- and now they're asking for all Canadians to pay the bill?

I don't think so. As far as I can see Canadians have paid too much already for two-passport immigrants who bring grievances from their homelands expecting Canadians to interfere in the affairs of the sovereign state from which they have come.

The police should have given some thought as to who was going to pay for the police presence at these demonstrations. Had they done that, perhaps they would have been less lenient with the demonstrators and more accountable when it comes to taxpayers' dollars.

Why is it always assumed that "someone else will pay," meaning the Canadian taxpayer? We've been paying through the nose for far too many "services" which benefit only a small -- often visble -- minority of our society.

My sense is that one-passport, pay-all-the-bills-Canadians are reaching the saturation point. Let those responsible for these prolonged demonstrations, both the demonstrators and lenient police services, pay the bill. Divide it up, but let's see logical consequences and accountability on the part of the perpetrators and law enforcement officers who stood by and let these demonstrations continue.

After all, what benefit accrued to Canadian taxpayers from these demonstrations?

Posted by: batb at June 3, 2009 9:02 PM

Missing link actually has a point in there behind all the ad hominem. Probably an accident, but a point none the less.

Take Caledonia, for example. Caledonia has a policing contract with the OPP. Caledonia however does not give -orders- to the OPP. That's a provincial government power, because they are provincial police, not town police.

Therefore, is it reasonable for Caledonia (and the rest of Haldimand county) to pay for the OPP to send HUNDREDS of officers from all over Ontario to protect the poor, helpless yet armed Indian protesters blocking the road from the dangerous yet oddly unarmed white people? How about, is it reasonable to still be paying for this same "service" three years on?

Now, if the City of Ottawa told the cops at Parliament Hill and etc. to let the Tamils freak out for two whole weeks, I'd say let them pony up for it. But I somehow doubt that is how it happened. I think the Ottawa city cops wanted to bust every protester that put a foot on the road, but the OPP and RCMP wouldn't let them.

If you're going to call the tune, you should pay the piper first. That's Dalton "Let 'em eat cake" McGuinty in this case, my friends. If Dalton says how its going to be, then Dalton should be paying.

And every wasted penny should be added up on a web site someplace for all to see.

Posted by: The Phantom at June 3, 2009 9:09 PM

Too bad for Ottawa. Thats the price of being the seat of government.

Right or wrong, agree or disagree, they get the benefits of being the government town, they can pay the price. They get a subsidy from the Federal Government anyway.

Posted by: Stephen at June 3, 2009 9:16 PM

On day ine if the Ottawa Police had used a bit of tear gas, plunked someone between the eyes with a rubber bullet, or hauled off people to jail they might have saved the city some money.
They made the decision to placate the terrorists and their followers. Increase the Ottawa (NCR) tax bill. The Ottawa police had a job to do but didn't do it.

Posted by: Yogi at June 3, 2009 9:26 PM

I have no problem paying the bill if the good citizens of Ottawa agree to let the taxpayers of Canada shut down the Rideau Canal Skateway until we recover our costs.

http://tinyurl.com/b88qu

Neat - they got some of the NCC Hospitality and Travel Expenses here:

http://tinyurl.com/qgmds3

Donuts anyone?

Posted by: ural at June 3, 2009 9:28 PM

Very bad precedent

A license to disrupt for special interest groups

Posted by: Erik Larsen at June 3, 2009 9:42 PM

Stephen, that's all our money in the first place

As someone said to me once, every once in a while you should go to Ottawa and visit your money

Posted by: Erik Larsen at June 3, 2009 9:43 PM

Where's the RCMP's "Sergeant Pepper" Hugh Stewart from the 1997 APEC riots when you need him?

Posted by: chris at June 3, 2009 10:18 PM

I agree with Lori, I fail to see what the police did at all. There seemed to be no violence from the tamils and the cops just stood around and let them do anything they wanted. Why was there any additional charge as it was just a reassignment of staff?

The police in Toronto did nothing to stop the tamils from blocking major streets or closing down the Gardiner expressway then the tamils left when they wanted. I suppose they would still be there if they wanted to be unless motorists began to physically throw them off the expressway. Of course at this breach of law the OPP with Fantino would arrest the motorists!

Posted by: Dave at June 3, 2009 11:26 PM

We already pay for the Ottawa parks and several museums. Maybe next time, the city will confine protests to where they should be held using fewer staff. They will soon be able to sue terrorists :-). Pepper spray worked well for Cretin at UBC.

Posted by: O Canada at June 4, 2009 12:51 AM

He who pays the bill MUST run the Show. Taxpayers have a right of oversight. If the city concedes its authority those City Officials are redundant.. Fire them all

A petty political stunt by Moroons (SP)

Posted by: Slap Shot at June 4, 2009 2:24 AM

The City of Ottawa (or is it the National Capital Authority or something)has a contract for police services and that contract doesn't have a clause to get extra should the need arise, then they are SOL.

Kind of like the fire department wanting more money because there was a cat lover's convention and an arbourist's symposium on the same weekend.

Suck it up Ottawa (the city).

Posted by: Texas Canuck at June 4, 2009 5:46 AM

Send a bill the various organizations that represent the Tamils, if they fail to pay said bills shut those organizations down as a domestic security threat. We are allowing the Tamils to set precidents in intimitation, lawlessness and being a public nusance. If they are so concerned go home and check out the camps themselves, it's not Canada's job to do it's the UNs. I think they are attention hoes who like spending their days making other people's lives miserable.

Posted by: Rose at June 4, 2009 12:22 PM

Phantom said:

"Missing link actually has a point in there behind all the ad hominem. Probably an accident, but a point none the less."

- not nice dude.

I thought MaryT was a bit extreme with the 'round-em-up' and deport them comment. In any event your post is pretty much the way I see this issue as well.

Posted by: missing link at June 4, 2009 4:27 PM
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