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May 30, 2009

The 1st Amendment: Fun While It Lasted

Is there nothing that Obama can't do? "White House moves to restrict criticism of stimulus projects".

Posted by Kate at May 30, 2009 9:38 AM
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This is quite disturbing.

I've had friends debate heatedly whether an Obama - Hitler comparison is fair or completely incredulous. Moves like this only add fuel to the debate. But, to be sure, Obama and all leaders deserve both scrutiny and respect.

Posted by: Lee Harding at May 30, 2009 10:17 AM

Yes, the American founding fathers obviously made a mistake in setting up their system the way they did. They should have followed the French lead and let the Glorious Leaders do whatever the Glorius Leader's want to. After all, being better than the rest of us, there's obviously no reason to have any limits on Them.

Unless the bible is right and humans are fallen, in which case the secular progressives are wrong and the US system (as originally better) is superior.

Posted by: C_Miner at May 30, 2009 10:44 AM

(sarc off)

er, as originally written, not as originally better.

Posted by: C_Miner at May 30, 2009 10:48 AM

This is very, very, very disturbing.
Also: WTF?!?

Posted by: Black Mamba at May 30, 2009 11:33 AM

Step One - Control the flow of Capital...check!

The largest Investment bank in the world is the Federal Reserve. Which is also the controller of monetary policy, due to monetization of the debt all capital now flows from the Fed.

Step Two - Control Means of Production...in Progress!

Using a socialist concept "too big to fail" or "systemic risk" which are made up terms as neither that can actually exist in the markets, Government is aquiring major production facilities and if the recession drags on they will intevene even more. Example is if GE has anymore problems, it has as much impact as Chrysler on employment and support industries.

Step Three - Control the Flow of Information...In Planning!

See Subject matter of this post.

Posted by: Illiquid Assets at May 30, 2009 11:34 AM

Liberal Fascism in the "Free World" manifests itself necessarily subtly.

Liberal fascists know they must be subtle rather than obvious. This is why most folks don't realize that they're living in a fascist regime. It's just too subtle, and many folks don't want to use their brains so as to see the fascism.

On the other hand, the Left, when "right-wing" governments do things, invent deductions of fascism, distorting language, etc., and many folks will just as easily believe in this imaginary "right-wing" fascism as won't recognize real left-wing fascism.

Continuing with this subtleness, the Obama Regime will be increasing the power of tyrannization of the Left over time. But, increasingly, they do appear to me to be increasingly brazen and impatient with the changes and with the oppressions. Or is it just me seeing it because I'm watching closely???

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 30, 2009 11:58 AM

It'll be interesting to see whether abuse of executive power becomes a campaign issue for the mid-term elections. What will it take, short of a suitcase-nuke in NYC, to awaken the silent majority?

Posted by: glasnost at May 30, 2009 12:00 PM

Even Pravda has noticed that the Marxists have taken over Wall Street (via Drudge).

For those of you who believe Obama is stupid, look in the mirror.

As every day passes, it's becoming more and more obvious this is a totally deliberate attempt to kill free market capitalism. It should come as no surprise if you look at Obama's life influences, from his Commie parents, to the marxist-inspired liberation theology to his place as a ‘community organizer' in a movement started by William Ayres.

The speed at which this is happening is frightening, and the MSM has been silent and complicit in this exercise the ‘change' the country into the USSA.

The Pravda (Truth in Russian and a former propoganda vehicle for the Soviet government) analysis rightfully points out how easy it is, once the moral decay of the populace is complete.

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/

Posted by: set you free at May 30, 2009 12:25 PM

I must be missing something here, Kate. I see no violation of the US First Amendment.

The writer of the memo in the link you provided says, in a nutshell, "if you have something to say about a grant application for stimulus funds, put it in writing. We're not going to accept verbal communications. Whatever you say will be posted on the internet."

They're not saying you can't communicate with them. They're not telling anyone what they can say or not say.

On the surface, this seems like a good thing, although I have no idea how they're going to enforce it short of permanently attaching small radio transmitters to every government official involved with stimulus grants.

So, what am I missing?

Posted by: BJG at May 30, 2009 1:16 PM

set you free - well said. The sentimental drooling over a man (the big 0)by the msm is revolting. The 0 is just a guy who can roll words off his tongue, he is too lazy to be a fanatic (hence the reliance on his prompter) so the 0 is not dangerous in himself - it is the guy writing his lines that people should fear. And his 'pals' that Governor Palin was NOT afraid to bring up. McCain was a very poor choice for the Republicans; Fred Thompson would have won the last election: makes me wonder why the Republicans nominated McCain.

Posted by: Jema54 at May 30, 2009 1:25 PM

I'd agree, in confused part, with BJG, but I'm confused.

At first glance, the agenda seems to be to restrict campaign activity for a particular Act, to written documentation. That is, you can't make non-written lobbying petitions. Therefore, this has nothing to do with the First Amendment. Your freedom of speech remains intact.

What seems to be happening is that your written 'speech' will be public. But there is no way, as BJG points out, that the government can discover your verbal interactions. Oral discussions will therefore slip further into the hidden shadows of political processes, will be resolutely denied as ever occurring and probably even increase.

Posted by: ET at May 30, 2009 1:27 PM

2nd to follow. Stock up on wheel weights.

Posted by: Aaron at May 30, 2009 1:35 PM

Yes, this is more confusing than it appears at first glance. At the very least, the idea that they now have the right to restrict "oral communications" in theory, even if they do not have the means to do so in practice, is pretty worrying.
The language of the italicized passage has that orwellian vibe. But I'd certainly prefer to be reassured.

Posted by: Black Mamba at May 30, 2009 2:03 PM

Fishing sinkers Aaron. Wheel weights are too stiff. Wrong alloy, y'know.

Posted by: The Phantom at May 30, 2009 2:33 PM

Orchestrating a few lame assassination plots against oneself and going with high risk military strategies abroad with good prospects for being defeated but having others blamed for it aren't exactly unknown to history.

Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at May 30, 2009 2:56 PM

Who still has pro-Obama sentiments now? The man is such a narcissistic, self-important blowhard!

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at May 30, 2009 3:04 PM


Yea yea, Illiquid Assets,, that's Obama's Phase III Plan.

Phase I: Change.
Phase II: ?????????????.
Phase III: We made it.
,,,

Posted by: Ratt at May 30, 2009 3:39 PM

What will it take, short of a suitcase-nuke in NYC, to awaken the silent majority?
Posted by: glasnost

I hope it never comes to that but I don't even think that would rouse anyone. The MSM would be licking Jihad boots even harder with there tongues.
Obama would be the first on TV crying that “Islam is the Religion of Peace” & we must conform more to them out of respect . That they are killing us, only means to the Liberal-Socialist mind we are at fault. Its never the Monster with these folks, they always blame the weak from fear. I will say no one on the Planet spins myths better than the fascist left. After the mega millions killed by Socialism , the slavery these anti human bigots still pretend to be the good guys. Along with their buddies. The Religion who blows people up. To death worshippers like these an a bomb attack would be a sexual release.
JMO

Posted by: Revnant Dream at May 30, 2009 7:08 PM

Black humOur.
...-

"RANGEL: OBAMA SHOULD 'WATCH HIS BACK' IN HARLEM(sic)

There's nothing like a tragic police shooting to bring a guffaw out of Rep. Charlie Rangel.

The veteran Harlem pol quipped that even President Obama, in town here for a Broadway show, should watch his back."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261396/posts

Posted by: maz2 at May 30, 2009 8:05 PM

first they will tell you HOW you may communicate


second, they will then tell you WHAT you may communicate


third, they will tell WHEN you may communicate


forth, they will through you in jail if you communicate what they won't allow

ET


I'v observed over time that people will usually communicate quite differently when writing (especially if it's to be made public) then they will verbally, so yes, this is a first step to restricting the "rite to freedom of speech"

Posted by: GYM at May 30, 2009 8:24 PM

That is, you can't make non-written lobbying petitions.

So if I call my Congress Critter and say: "More funds for Polywell Fusion" which is a recipient of stimulus funds, I'm in violation?

BTW linked at:

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2009/05/keep-yo-effn-mouth-shut.html

Posted by: M. Simon at May 31, 2009 12:05 AM

ET: "Oral discussions will therefore slip further into the hidden shadows of political processes"

It's exactly those hidden shadows that are a terminal blight to a balanced, just and respectful government. Expediency is a terrible substitute for open debate and reduces the value of our vote to near worthless.

"Decisions taken by the left for seeming expediency — denouncing those who insist on the primacy of our principles (not on dogma or sectarianism) — will chip away at our identity, making the next “expedient” decision so much the easier until people forget why they came into socialist politics in the first place. What we do, what we say and who we lash up with does matter."

http://www.workersliberty.org/node/1093

Posted by: Martin B. at May 31, 2009 9:47 AM

I believe a term was coined in the 1970's which seems a propos:

Afro-Marxist Dictator

Posted by: Jason at June 1, 2009 11:11 AM

Dissent is only patriotic when the Left does it.

Posted by: Christopher Lockhart at June 1, 2009 2:50 PM
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