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May 27, 2009

The First American Prime Minister In White Sheets

When I ran across this quote last evening in the comments, I cringed a little, assuming it came from some quasi-supremacist twit that the Liberals were attempting to link to the Conservatives...

"We created the country you live in. Never forget it.”

Turns out it's just the same old "we're Canadian and you're not" Liberal campaign rhetoric. The more things change, eh western Canada?

Sounds funny, though, coming from the lips of an American.

Ignatieff translated;

When I was 17 I knocked on doors for Lester Pearson, even though he gave us a flag that looks like a "poor imitation of a Beer label"

In 1968 I campaigned for Pierre Trudeau. They I buggered off for 34 years.

Now I need your votes so you can have me stay in Canada. If I am not elected, I will go back to teach at Harvard. Hey it's your loss.

Posted by Kate at May 27, 2009 11:34 AM
Comments

I always thought the "Natural Governing Party of Canada" quip was a joke amongst Conservatives! Now I realize it's a mantra for the Liberal elites. We really do need to shut this egomaniac out!

Posted by: Robert W. at May 27, 2009 11:44 AM

Where is his clown suit?Atourist acting badly in the land of the 'Beer label flag"

Posted by: bubba brown at May 27, 2009 11:48 AM

How can I forget it? I'm forced to think about it constantly.

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at May 27, 2009 11:53 AM

Liberals..creating a Canada without your consent since 1968


Don't worry Iggy, i won't forget....

Posted by: kursk at May 27, 2009 11:56 AM

Uninformed sources quote I-Iggy: I-Iggy, am an American ... ooops .....

I-Iggy: The New Model Citizen.

I-Iggy scores a trifecta.

I-Iggy is tri-lingual.

I-Iggy speaks Harvard English, mongrel French, and Ammurrican.

Vive L'I-Iggy Ammurrican.

Go home, I-Iggy.

Pic* shows Iggy with his left lobster claw upraised in his communist pose; the clenched fist.
...-

"Ignatieff called the ability to speak both official languages “the essence of being Canadian”."

"Federal Liberal leader woos
Franco-Ontarians in Embrun

Ignatieff calls bilingualism the essence of Canada"

* http://www.thereview.on.ca/topstory179.php

Posted by: maz2 at May 27, 2009 12:04 PM

Oh great, so the next election will be all about scary Stephen Harper this, and arrogant Liberals that, while yet again we fail to have any substantive debate of important issues, like Section 13, or climate fraud, because in essence, the CPC is just looking to replace the Liberals as the go-to brand.

It's not much more than a tiff between Tim Hortons and Starbucks for the lion's share of the nation's coffee money.

Sure, the Liberals are an arrogant bunch of entitlement addicts. But what happened to the principles of Stephen Harper since he became the leader of the united party?

This new party has modelled itself on the Liberals and as a result, it has no real soul -- it is not a conservative party at all, just a meeting place for control freaks. It ceased to be a truly conservative party the moment that the leadership decided to duck the difficult issues and hide behind mealy-mouthed compromise statements that really mean nothing.

We have not had a real conservative party in Canada since the termination of the Canadian Alliance. Now we have two Liberal parties, one authentic, and one in disguise.

I'm sure people will want to dump on me for pointing out these inconvenient facts, but we can't go on pretending any longer. Seeing how bad the Liberals are simply reminds us that the CPC are only marginally better. That's not good enough for me, why is it good enough for you?

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at May 27, 2009 12:07 PM

When I was 17 I knocked on doors for Lester Pearson, even though he gave us a flag that looks like a "poor imitation of a Beer label"
In 1968 I campaigned for Pierre Trudeau. They I buggered off for 34 years.
Now I need your votes so you can have me stay in Canada. If I am not elected, I will go back to teach at Harvard. Hey it's your loss.

Posted by: Largs at May 27, 2009 12:10 PM

This was from the 2004 election....so Iggy hauls out his Liberal bona fides, knocked on doors for Mike Pearson and worked on PET's 1968 (jaysus) campaign plane.....then one humongous gap!!

The NGP line comes from a frank Underhill book, and it is used in an admiring sense. Underhill being one of many Liberal toadies that worked in academe in the 50's 60's and 70's. I remember running across it in university in the 80's and finding it to be a quaint relic.

Iggy is Rip Van Winkle, more like the de Niro character in Awakenings...30 years he was
asleep, but ultimately slips back into paranoid delusions when the medicine doesnt work.

The "We created this country" line and thinking is still there. Its there to make Liberals feel good about being Liberals. It means nothing to anyone else.

The conservatives have never said that Iggy is unpatriotic, or not a citizen....they have said he is out of touch with a canada of today....

You know, when Kinsella agreed to work with Iggy do you think he did any background research? Or was he just thrilled to be asked?

Posted by: Stephen at May 27, 2009 12:17 PM

Liberals: "Creating OUR version of Canada since 1968, whether you like it or not. Suck it up peasants, we know better than you how to run your lives and spend your money."

Posted by: Soccermom at May 27, 2009 12:19 PM

Who's Mike? Was that Lester's invisable twin?

Posted by: Annie at May 27, 2009 12:19 PM

Liberals: "We wrecked the self-sufficient, proud country which came of age defending the free world through a couple of world wars and replaced it with welfare and 'free' health care."

Posted by: Jason at May 27, 2009 12:24 PM

I don't think that Michael Ignatieff is going back
to Harvard. Harvard doesn't like losers.

Posted by: John Lewis at May 27, 2009 12:25 PM

Keep up the good work Iggy. I'm looking forward to the leaders' debates.

To Peter O'Donnell at 12:07 PM: If the CPC acted like a "real conservative party" at this juncture, they'd never win an election. Our electorate has become so screwed up during the last 40 years, that the majority are not capable of responding to "substantive debate". The dominance of the progressives (read Kindergartenists) in the school system and the MSM have pushed the pendulum far left, and it will take more than one election cycle to bring it back. For now, be patient and stay with the tribe.

Posted by: glasnost at May 27, 2009 12:27 PM

I have no intention of ever forgetting who screwed this country up.

Posted by: Kathryn at May 27, 2009 12:29 PM

Soccermom >>> OMG... I was actually thinking exactly the same thing but was trying to imagine it in PET's, Cretien's, John Turner's, Joe Clarks, Brian Muroney's, and Paul Martin's accents...the last 40 plus years of either Liberal or Red Tory rule Prior to Stephen Harper being elected...

Can you imagine...Liberals, in our streets, with superior atitudes and their foo foo coffee's, In Canada!!!

"Liberals: "Creating OUR version of Canada since 1968, whether you like it or not. Suck it up peasants, we know better than you how to run your lives and spend your money."

Posted by: Soccermom | May 27, 2009 12:19 PM "

Posted by: MrEd at May 27, 2009 12:31 PM

When I was 17 I knocked on doors for Lester Pearson, even though he gave us a flag that looks like a "poor imitation of a Beer label"

"In 1968 I campaigned for Pierre Trudeau."

Just what we need - a fossil from Jurassic park to lead us. Iggy must be wearing Depends on the electoral circuit by now.


Posted by: Agent Smith at May 27, 2009 12:39 PM

soccermom - exactly right. The Liberals have acted like a colonizing power. They make all the decisions and we, the colonized, have to accept their decisions, because they are Wise and we are Dumb.

The Liberals have disabled Canadian democracy, for their mode of governance, with its patronage Senate, its reams of unaccountable appointed civil servants (deputy ministers, judges, etc) have set up a system where ALL decisions are made by them without the input or approval of the people.

That includes the Beer Label flag, the Charter, the HRCs, the health 'care' system, the education system, bilingualism, multiculturalism, federal control over industries, over farms (Wheat Board), the MSM control by the CBC, film industries, the Unemployment System, the equalization, identity politics..on and on..

The basic infrastructure of Canadian life that set up a focus on groups as isolated and easily controlled identities and denigrated individual freedoms - that was all developed by the Liberals.

We are now being reminded that we must never forget this repressive colonization, this stamping out of individualism, entrepreneurship and the rejection of our right to debate, dissent, question (Canadians are 'tolerant'; Canadians are 'peaceful'). All of this repressive brainwashing was geared to turning us into The Passive Colonized.

Posted by: ET at May 27, 2009 12:50 PM

Gee,thanks Iggy. I didn't know that John A Macdonald was a Liberal. I though this country was created by families more than a century ago who chose to come here to try and forge a new life in an uncertain new land. Thanks for clearing that up Iggy. I guess I should notify my immigrant family they had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: David at May 27, 2009 12:51 PM

Can you put a beer stein on that "poor imitation beer label"?

I think the height of arrogance was Karen Redman's statement:

The following announcement made on May 25th, 2005: The federal Liberals would consider ignoring a House of Commons defeat should they lose any of the several coming votes that are matters of confidence between now and the end of the spring session, Chief Government Whip Karen Redman says. !!!

The aforementioned statement in effect suggests that we will inaugurate a period of ‘taxation without representation’. I congratulate the LIEberal Chief Government Whip for renewing and modernizing the 1837 Rebellion.

But hey, why go back to 1968 when the 1837 Rebellion is what LIEberals really want; governing without the necessity of an election.

cf: The Coup-scam Coalition of December last.

Hardworking Canadians built Canada, governments are better understood as parasites dependent on a hard working population. If people aren't working there is no tax revenue.

Under the communists the population pretended it was working, and the government pretended to pay them. Governments don't build anything, people do.
Apparently, that system didn't work out too well with the collapse of communism in 1989.

Leftists have been hard at work trying to revive the dead patient but so far resurrection is beyond them.

Cheers


Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group "True North"

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at May 27, 2009 1:01 PM

Kursk said: "Liberals..creating a Canada without your consent since 1968"

ABSOLUTELY Brilliant!

Posted by: Robert W. at May 27, 2009 1:06 PM

I always thought the "Natural Governing Party of Canada" quip was a joke amongst Conservatives! Now I realize it's a mantra for the Liberal elites. We really do need to shut this egomaniac out!

Posted by: Robert W. at May 27, 2009 11:44 AM

And this is why we are in the crap we are in!!!People don't think.Sorry Rw.Nothing personel.but you probably think Whoopie speaks for you.The "View" is it for too many people. And we need to shut this egomanic out??And admit it.You voted for Turdeau!?!?

Posted by: Justthinkin at May 27, 2009 1:06 PM

"Liberals: Buying votes with your money and winning elections since 1968...and if we can't win the election, we'll take government anyway..."

"Liberals: Democracy is so 20th Century"

"Liberals: The choice of Criminals, thugs and thieves since 1968"

"Liberals: Raping, Pillaging and Insulting Alberta since Trudeau"

"Liberals: You liked the first Trudeau? Well, wait till we force the other one on you."

Just a few Liberal trademarks.

Posted by: Soccermom at May 27, 2009 1:12 PM

I confess. I was a young teenager all fired up by the Centennial Year and actually campaigned briefly for Trudeau. Then he brought closure into Parliament and I ripped up my Liberal Party membership card. Started to read the late Lubor Zink in the Toronto Sun and realized how Trudeau worshipped dictators of all stripes.

Too bad Ignatieff didn't wake up too.

Posted by: NicolaTimmerman at May 27, 2009 1:14 PM

PET will never be dead enough to suit me......but at least he chased a decent skirt. That effete, narrow shouldered dork Iggy couldn't get laid in a wh*rehouse with a fistful of hundreds.

Posted by: Peter at May 27, 2009 1:31 PM

Ignatieff brags about the family tree but it turns out he thinks they were ALL wrong:

George Grant presents a problem for the Liberal leader. Uncle George was distinguished among Grants by his visceral hatred of Liberals, especially the most liberal of them all, prime minister Lester B. Pearson.

Grant’s famous polemic, Lament for a Nation (1965), attacked Pearson and his ilk for selling out to the Americans.

Grant insisted, from the depths of his pessimism, that Canada had no future in an age inevitably dominated by U.S. technology.

In discussing that book, Ignatieff exhibits a desire to dance at everybody’s wedding.

He says Grant was wrong about everything from Grant family history to the future of Canada. Nevertheless, he finds a way to call Lament for a Nation a masterpiece — ”a masterpiece of grief and anger.”

In True Patriot Love, Ignatieff has vigorously shaken the family tree to see how many Liberals fall out.

At the end there’s only one, Michael Grant Ignatieff himself, but that’s plenty.

National Post
robert.fulford@utoronto.ca


Posted by: Lorraine at May 27, 2009 1:36 PM

We need Ignatieff to beat back you cons!! He is truly a keeper of Trudeau and as a founding father he must be respected! He will make sure we have fewer white people, more immigration, and a national daycare that you cons went against when you cut the GST. Now you've put us in debt you won't make the rich people pay! You are against gay marriage and bilingilism and would secretly do away with Trudeau's Canada. And we can't allow that to happen!!

Posted by: uber liberal at May 27, 2009 1:37 PM

Better go check Kinsella's site. He's up to no good, it appears.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 27, 2009 1:40 PM

I'm still having a hard time believing that anyone outside the GTA would vote for Ignatieff. The guy is beyond a shadow of a doubt the most pompous blowhard in the history of public life in Canada.

Incroyable.

Posted by: EBD at May 27, 2009 1:44 PM

If we had any real investigative journos in CDA they would be looking into whether iggy ever was registered as a voter in the us and for which party. Secondarily to that they should see if he ever spoke at a campaign rally in the US. If he did any of the above then it is proof as to the extent of his allegiance to CDa and the LPC.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at May 27, 2009 1:46 PM

Honestly, with a few small cuts, this would be a much more effective anti-Iggy ad than the one currently being aired by the Tories. The man's his own worst enemy, and all the Tories need to do is expose him. Stop the sneers, and the hectoring, and let Iggy hang himself.

Posted by: KevinB at May 27, 2009 1:53 PM

"We need Ignatieff to beat back you cons!! He is truly a keeper of Trudeau and as a founding father he must be respected! He will make sure we have fewer white people, more immigration, and a national daycare that you cons went against when you cut the GST. Now you've put us in debt you won't make the rich people pay! You are against gay marriage and bilingilism and would secretly do away with Trudeau's Canada. And we can't allow that to happen!!"

Hahahahaha!!!.. do stop, Noel Coward..I'll bet you secretly keep a Dief the chief button in your 'days of the week' marked underwear drawer.

Posted by: Kursk at May 27, 2009 1:59 PM

Flag that looks like a bad Beer label....must go with that whole "Beer and popcorn" angle they were going for before Stephen Harper became our PM

Posted by: MrEd at May 27, 2009 2:02 PM

You can make fun of me, but we will beat you for what you are doing! You should be banned for all the lies you make!! Ignatieff will rule Canada one day after we've cleaned out your clocks!

Posted by: uber liberal at May 27, 2009 2:04 PM

See my quote at 1:37.

Accordingly If Ignatieff thinks Canada was built by Liberals neither HE or ANY of his family had anything to do with it. His oh so vererated ancestors HATED Liberals.

Where is the quote that would have his Uncle George Grant spinning in his grave whre Ignatieff said that "he was a Pearson Liberal".

How funny. Ignatieff left Canada at 6 weeks old and did not return until he was 11. At 17 he says he knocked on doors for Trudeau.

Exactly WHEN was HE a Pearsonian Liberal except in his own fertile imagnination.

Posted by: Lorraine at May 27, 2009 2:04 PM

uber liberal wrote" You are against gay marriage and bilingilism and would secretly do away with Trudeau's Canada.

Secretly? I'd use a f*cking nuke.

Posted by: A storm is coming at May 27, 2009 2:07 PM

uber liberal: "He is truly a keeper of Trudeau and as a founding father he must be respected"

I know people think Ignatief is good but, please, don't you think your elevating him to the status of founding father (an American term, by the way) is just a tad over the top?

Posted by: Kathryn at May 27, 2009 2:09 PM

Iggy saying the flag looks like a cheap beer label is somewhat ironic as it was Pearson who replaced the Canadian Red Ensign with the Liberal flag of Canada.

Posted by: Jason at May 27, 2009 2:14 PM

Ignatieff will rule Canada one day after we've cleaned out your clocks!~uber Lib

Hilarious!
I think uber Lib is a sock puppet and is playing it for laughs.

Posted by: Oz at May 27, 2009 2:15 PM

Half way through the clip, I thought I was watching an attack ad for the conservatives. The unfortunate thing is, this is an great example of something that resonates with Ontario and Quebec; natural governing, center of intellectual thought, creator of all that is Canadian, scary Western ideas. EBD, if you define the GTA as everything east of the Ontario-Manitoba border, you nailed it.

Posted by: Steve at May 27, 2009 2:16 PM

I am not a puppet for anyone! You know I am write because I speak the truth and it annoys you cons!! You will not be laughing when the Liberals take power and put a stop to your ways! Trudeau is a founding father and must be respected no matter what the other guy says!!

Posted by: uber liberal at May 27, 2009 2:27 PM

Oz...ubernew?

Posted by: h.ryan at May 27, 2009 2:28 PM

Canadian Sentinel,

I used to go to Warren's site....but once he moved from being an observer to being a participant it doesnt matter anymore.

I am sure if there is something worthwhile it show up elsewhere.

Posted by: Stephen at May 27, 2009 2:45 PM

It would take some scab Liberal to openly wish for a PM to 'rule' Canada. Thanks Comrade!

Posted by: KVB at May 27, 2009 2:55 PM

Uber, are you the reincarnation of the late, lamented,"New"? If so, congratulations, your English is improving, and you're now comprehensible.

And anyone who pines for Trudeau must NOT have been here before 1968. How can anyone say Trudeau was a good PM when they have no comparison.

Ya shoulda seen us before-Pierre. We was GREAT!

Posted by: dmorris at May 27, 2009 2:57 PM

Uber is one comical Liberal.

Posted by: Soccermom at May 27, 2009 2:59 PM

Yea. We don't need no Harvard professor guys who got world-famous for their brains.

Posted by: Louie at May 27, 2009 3:07 PM

Trudeau a Founding Father!!! LOL

On second thought,Ya he was a founding father, Founding Father of Deficits.

And the founding father of the 10/42 UI system back in the 70's work 10wks collect for 42.
Wait a minute, "Back to the Future" Ignatieff is Copying His mentors system, by calling for 360hrs!.

Posted by: bryanr at May 27, 2009 3:21 PM

"Founding Father of Deficits"

VERY good, bryanr!! That's a keeper!

Posted by: Soccermom at May 27, 2009 3:27 PM

Well, Trudeau may not have been a founding father when he built the constitution, but there's no denying that Margaret laid the Stones.

Posted by: Rick in BC at May 27, 2009 3:38 PM

Posted by Uber Liberal May 27, 2009 2:04 PM:

"You can make fun of me, but we will beat you for what you are doing! You should be banned for all the lies you make!! Ignatieff will rule Canada one day after we've cleaned out your clocks!"

Perhaps Uber Liberals comments were influenced by another headline today:

"Serbian Priest Removed After Video Shows Him Beating Rehab Patients With Shovel"

Posted by: No-One at May 27, 2009 3:39 PM

Gotta keep this one going, it's one of the more outrageous statements he's come out with, we've gotta keep hitting him with it.

Dammit it does matter that he's been away from Canada for over three decades. It also matters that he wouldn't be here if he had not been lured by the Liberals. with the promise of leadership and a shot at the PM chair. He also has told us he has his job on hold at Harvard should he wish to return.

Both he and the Liberals may well find out it takes more than dressing a Mannequin for their window to run a country, there has to be something in the store.

This whole affair with Igantieff reminds of the old West Movies when a stranger comes to town and becomes Mayor. Any day now I expect to see him chewing and spitting.

Posted by: Liz J at May 27, 2009 3:43 PM

I didn't catch his name, but the Liberal moron on Power Play last night during the discussion on proposed changes to EI made perhaps the stupidest atatement ever made by a politician on TV.

Arguing that EI benefits would be put back into the economy by the recipients, he stated " there's no stimulus like EI."

I kid you not.

Posted by: clair voyant at May 27, 2009 3:54 PM

"Well, Trudeau may not have been a founding father when he built the constitution, but there's no denying that Margaret laid the Stones."

The "Quote of the Day" winner is:

Rick in BC at May 27, 2009 3:38 PM

Posted by: Texas Canuck at May 27, 2009 3:59 PM

A smidgen of puxtajose courtesy I-Iggy, Nana Dhalla, and I-Iggy's Best Bathroom Boy**.

Make it a combo:1 and 2. Nanny Presser was to be a live UFO sighting from Roswell*. Aborted**.
...-

"Nanny press conference delayed

A press conference that was to be held today by a Mississauga man and his lawyer about one of the nannies who has levelled accusations of unfair treatment at federal MP Ruby Dhalla, has been postponed.

A spokesperson for the office of City Centre lawyer Shawn Philbert said the conference has been delayed because of scheduling problems for Philbert's client, George Roswell."
http://www.mississauganews.com/article/27790

**"NOOSE TIGHTENS AROUND KENNEY'S NECK?
Kinsella: We have the fascinating postings below, taken from a "nanny" chatroom. They're very interesting - particularly, I think, the degree to which Kenney worker Melissa Bhagat was involved in coordinating attacks on Dhalla and two provincial cabinet ministers."
(National Newswatch)

Posted by: maz2 at May 27, 2009 4:04 PM

'Don't know about "I-Iggy's Best Bathroom Boy" but to his Missus, apparently I-Iggy himself is called "Big Boy". Make your own deductions on that one.

Posted by: Liz J at May 27, 2009 4:37 PM

"Flaherty should be fired for $50b deficit: Grits"
ctv.ca may 27/09

vid up of todays QP in HoC at the article
**A must read the comments, Most are "Not" favourable towards Ignatieff & the Liberals.

The liberals were the ones that wanted "More Stimulus Spending" or they would topple the Govt.
Now they want to topple the Govt. for spending! Give me a break, these Liberals are like leaches on the land, Preying on Canadians worst fears, trying to create panic. If its not the UI its the Budget stimulus.
But you know what Canadians are Not buying into their scam.
Like i said A must read the comments Most are critical of the Liberals

Posted by: bryanr at May 27, 2009 4:39 PM

bryanr,

Any home movies of iggy sailing or windsurfing?

Posted by: Stephen at May 27, 2009 4:52 PM

"Flaherty should be fired for $50b deficit: Grits"

I have a distinct memory of the Libs, Dip and Bloc getting in a world-class snit last fall because the CPC wasn't going to spend gobs of money we didn't have. I guess the Libs are all huffy now because it's *only* 50B.

Posted by: Kathryn at May 27, 2009 4:56 PM

Iggy worked for Mike Pearson sometime in the 1960s. Then he was sealed cryogenically in liquid nitrogen, only to emerge in the year 2005 with a mission to become prime minister of Canada. Our very own Austin Powers, only not as funny.

Posted by: tibi at May 27, 2009 5:00 PM

McCallum said today that there were programs the Cons are doing that the Liberals would cancel to find the money for EI and other things....but refused to say what they were.

Hmmm what programs that spend between 10 and 15 billion a year would those be? And why wont he talk about them?

Posted by: Stephen at May 27, 2009 5:05 PM

Video A must See at the ctv.ca article "Flaherty should be Fired"

I just checked the QP vid "Liberals blast Tories on Deficit" 6:28

PM Stephen Harper & FM Flaherty are right on their game today, They give a Smackdown of Smackdown's to Ignatieff & McCallum.

Posted by: bryanr at May 27, 2009 5:06 PM

Maz
The guy arranges a press conference then cancels because of scheduling issues ?!

I smell rotting fish.

Posted by: Agent Smith at May 27, 2009 5:07 PM

I think this might be germane to the topic, as it's connected to Ignatieff and his character vis a vis allowing Kinsella to act like a dummy on his behalf.

Overexcited Kinsella Tries To B.S., Falls Flat On Face

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2009/05/overexcited-kinsella-tries-to-bs-falls.html

He's got nothing. Don't know why National Newswatch bothered to link to his stupid, conspiracy-theorizing post.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 27, 2009 5:12 PM

Maz, I also posted on that to which you refer.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 27, 2009 5:15 PM

The guy arranges a press conference then cancels because of scheduling issues ?!

I smell rotting fish.
Posted by: Agent Smith at May 27, 2009 5:07 PM

--Smells more like puffin crap to me.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 27, 2009 5:42 PM

I-Iggy's Deficit Attention Disorder is contagious.
Call WHO?

Fin/Min Flaherty causes left-socialists to spit, er split on Liberal I-Iggy.

Taliban Jack LaytoNDP is not one of I-Iggy’s New Model Citizens. tsk tsk
…-

“UPDATE 1-Canada opposition divided over backing for Ottawa

OTTAWA, May 27 (Reuters) - Canada’s three opposition parties, which can only bring down the minority Conservative government if they all vote together, could not agree on Wednesday how to handle Ottawa’s admission it would run a record budget deficit this year.

The Liberals, the official opposition party, said the news that the deficit would reach more than C$50 billion ($45 billion) made it increasingly difficult to work with Prime Minister Stephen Harper, whose January budget they backed.

But the left-leaning New Democrats showed no enthusiasm for cooperating in a bid to defeat Harper while the separatist Bloc Quebecois said it wanted more details of what the Liberals had in mind.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN2726446020090527

Posted by: maz2 at May 27, 2009 5:55 PM

The problem is not how long Iggy was away from Canada,the problem is that he came back.

Posted by: h.ryan at May 27, 2009 5:56 PM

I think Uber is probably right, most Canadians are not conservatives and the "clock cleaning" he's referring to seems inevitable. Fortunately for us, this cultural divide is regional, and conservatives are the vast majority where I live.

There is only one solution, period.

Uber

Would you object to Alberta and perhaps Saskatchewan leaving Confederation; or, would you condone the actions necessary to prevent such an event?

The ducks seem to be lining up nicely as conservatives in the US are migrating from the major cities on the coasts to the midland states. This migration, Canada’s regional realities, and the alienation of conservatives on both sides of the boarder may create some interesting opportunities and partnerships for western Canadians in the near future.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at May 27, 2009 5:57 PM

"Philbert's client, George Roswell."
(see above)

More nuts from I-Iggy's Dhalla Nana Dilemma.

Roswell's next UFO witnesses sighted missing will be "Philbert's" other clients, cousins Ches and Wal.
TBA.

Posted by: maz2 at May 27, 2009 6:05 PM

Indiana
You would probably want to wrest BC into the fold. You'll need some coastline dude. They can carve out an enclave for Vancouver, a piteously small one however a la Singapore.

That would leave Manitoba stuck between the Alsaskalumbia and Ontario - an unstable state of affairs. In which case Manitoba should be incorporated as well as a buffer zone. This would also afford an Atlantic outlet via Churchill, maybe yearround if the warming keeps up.

If the chips were to fall in place I could be induced to break out of the latte gulag Torontopelago and assist.

I'm going to keep my eye on the sitchyation.

Posted by: Agent Smith at May 27, 2009 6:21 PM

What will be interesting to see is if prominent Conservatives like PMSH and S.Day will be content to work from the opposition benches; or, if they will view an election loss as a sign that the Reform's experiment of trying to convince Canadians of our point of view is a dismal failure.

I tend to agree with batb that PMSH's liberal side comes from a place of necessity. I suspect PMSH is quite conservative and he personally shares many of the thoughts about conservatism espoused on this site.

We need our leaders back home, they don't belong in Ottawa!

For those that criticize the Conservatives for “watering the wine”, just remember the results of elections past. Conservatives running on a conservative agenda is the proven recipe for a Liberal majority government.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at May 27, 2009 6:21 PM

Indiana - i concur - it's probably even more important to keep the Libs 'out' of power as it is for the Tories to be in.

Posted by: Agent Smith at May 27, 2009 6:26 PM

I agree with both indiana, and agaent smith ...however i think there is a slow turning tide here in canada andi think people are starting to awaken politically and understand what conservatism is all about and i personally think that in the east is where we are going to see the biggest shift to conservatism ..i speak with all sorts of people out in ontario and they are very upset that the auto workers are only having there wages rolled back to 57/hr that is 114k per year to put friken lug nots on a car as well as a pension and great benefit's so we'll see people need to be held accountable for there actions and unfortunatley the liberals don't do that when your wrong your still right , whne some one beat's you fair and square at soemthing well the second place has got to have something to becausei t is'nt fair ...well screw the liberals and all of ignatieff's crap he is fake false and a total loser he has one agenda and that is his own selfish one stupid prix...sorry kate he makes me mad he lies right through his teeth about canada and how it got to where it is ....well i know alberta will alway's be conservative and it is growing here .....to i talk to 19 year olds 20 year olds here and they are pissed at liberals they will never vote for a liberal so some of our schools are still teaching something right ....anyway ttyl.

Paul calgary.

Posted by: paul at May 27, 2009 6:35 PM

Hey Filbert - what's up with your client ? - if memory serves correctly isn't this the second time now he's 'cancelled' a presser ?

What's this really about F i l b e r t ?!

Posted by: Agent Smith at May 27, 2009 6:51 PM

clair voyant McCallum said the same thing to Roy Green on Adler On Line to-day. He was criticising the deficit numbers and that was his one and only solution. As for the attack ads ALL the Liberal leadership candidates said the same thing about Iggy being out of the country too long. Who knew Bob Rae could be right about anything?

Posted by: Speedy at May 27, 2009 6:58 PM

start to balance the budget by selling CBCpravda.
sell it for a buck and save a billion a year.

Posted by: cal2 at May 27, 2009 6:59 PM

Uber-Dork said: "You know I am write ...."

That speaks volumes about your IQ. Please lay off watching all the animal porn and start reading books & practicing how to write. P.S. Go Iggy! LOL


Justthinkin: You completely misunderstood what I said. My point was that I just never actually believed that Liberals ACTUALLY took believed that they were the Natural Governing Party of Canada. With vapid supporters like Uber-Dork above, how could they?!

Posted by: Robert W. at May 27, 2009 8:41 PM

Conservatism has NOT been a failure in Canada. But look at what the conservative movement is up against:

- The Liberals
- The NDP
- The Bloc Quebecois & Parti Quebecois for the most part
- Most of the gov't bureaucracy federally and likely in most provinces
- An endless number of NGOs, all of whom are sycophants to the Liberals and the tax dollars they have siphoned to them for decades
- Most of academia
- The majority of elementary & high school teachers, who spent a great deal of time with our youth
- The entire CBC, funded with $1 Billion of our money every year
- Much of the rest of the MSM

So with all those forces lined up against electing even one Conservative Party member, it's actually quite amazing how well they're doing.

Posted by: Robert W. at May 27, 2009 8:53 PM

Remember when Iffy decided Quebec is a Nation should be in the Constitution?
What Liberals said about Iffy:

''Many senior Liberals were outraged over what they viewed as Ignatieff’s crass and myopic maneuver,
saying it betrays nearly 50 years of party history and runs counter to the legacies of Lester Pearson, Pierre Trudeau and Jean Chretien, who battled fiercely to engage but not pander to Quebec.
At best, this is insensitive, or worse, it’s a Paul-Martin-esque pandering to the votes of soft separatists.

This is where Ignatieff’s nearly three decades of living outside of Canada — not to mention his obvious political inexperience — shows through.''

http://www.vigile.net/Ignatieff-s-Quebec-tactic-divides

Posted by: wilson at May 27, 2009 9:32 PM

I almost feel sorry for the huge voting block in Central Canada who eat this crap up.

Maybe if we had a less naive voting populace in this country, we could have a more conservative party to elect, but I guess sitting on the fence is the Canadian way.

Posted by: Joel Schroeder at May 27, 2009 9:54 PM

Another would be leader with a Narcisistic complex ala the incomparable example of Obama the "uber- messiah". In both their speech patterns their "I"s come too close together. In Ignatief's case take the "gnat" out of surname and they are adjacent to each other! I wonder if a cartoonist could make something of that?

Posted by: Bob Wood at May 27, 2009 10:39 PM

One of the things I found annoying was the pronouncement that the "centre" is where we say it is. Huh -- so if the Liberals move left (as they surely must if they are to grab votes from the NDP), then that becomes the new centre. There really is a lot arrogance here. And we are made to feel like errant children who had better not forget what we are being told. I do hope this guy is soon gone.

Posted by: LindaL at May 27, 2009 10:42 PM

Who needs negative campaign ads, just run that speech, it will never be forgotten! In fact we should send him a cheque for it.

Posted by: Larry Bennett at May 27, 2009 11:09 PM

Yes Iggy.

Invoke the name of PET.

Remind Canada why we don't need you or your party.

Excuse me. Off to the hardware store for some new farming implements.

Posted by: Curious at May 27, 2009 11:34 PM

The Fiberals certainly did not create my country! Just after he was working for Trudeau, the socialist, I was working for Peter Lougheed, who knew how to run an government and be a statesman. So there.

His ilk were neither indigenous nor pioneers! My pioneer ancestors were here building Canada well before it was a country or when the Count or Grants showed up! They were farmers, ranchers, school teachers and inspectors, Reeves before Canada was a country, wives of U.E. loyalists, etc. They cleared the land and built a life from 1784. This man is REALLY insulting; the more he tries to trump up his roots, the more foolish he looks. Napolitano of the North. Stop buying the book - read it later from a garage sale or libraries.

Posted by: Canada is me at May 28, 2009 1:09 AM

Canadians built and maintain Canada despite our governments, not because of them.

Posted by: bob c at May 28, 2009 1:59 AM

Canada is me - I could not agree with you more - don't buy Icky's book! Why give that spineless wonder any more of our money? We are forced to pay that money grubbing individual money for sitting on a nice comfy fur in the House of Commons (a term that must grate on Icky, given his elevated opinion of himself!)

Poor old hipster Icky has never forgiven his family for not leaving him a big fat inheritance so he could pay people to kow tow to him. His mind is thwarted with bitterness; he felt that his family should have been hailed as 'aristocrats of entitlement' when they got here from Bolshevik Russia; what he fails to mention is that no one in his family grabbed a gun and fought for Democracy in war torn bled blue Russia (only 'peons' fight for freedom, people like Icky are insulted from the business of freedom from oppression with vast wealth; they are the ilk that like having a 'nanny' and servants to do the dirty work. The last thing they want is the 'servants' having freedom from oppression - in whatever form that oppression takes: left or right, same bottom line for people like Icky and his ilk). The people of Russia did not want a Czar and they did not want a bloody Bolshevik tyrant, they wanted a say in the government and they wanted some control over their own lives. Nicolas II was not a bad man, he was a weak man who did not want to be a Czar, the family Icky comes from worked with and for the Czar and they resented his power but they didn't want freedom from dictatorship bad enough to fight for it.

I am Canada, I would strongly agree with you when you say you are Canada in a big way; me too! My ancestors came here to get out from under the tyranny of bigshots - and my family fought FOR the freedom of others; they were so happy to have a house and a piece of property that belonged to them and was off limits to anyone they did not want around them that they fought to give other poor souls that freedom. I don't know anything about the Grants, I am a Western Canadian and I grew up in the freedom that my parents place in the wild Cypress Hills made mine. My Grandad shot the tires of a gument tax collector's car in the early 1920's because he drove up to his place without being invited. My grandad towed those guys off his property with a pair of work horses. Grandad would not pay income tax ( he paid land taxes) after 1919 because income tax, in Canada, was a WWI amendment ( a war measures act) and Laurier ( a Liberano) who won the election against the wartime Prime Minister, Bordon ( a Torie), after the war; refused to take that freedom killing tax off the books. Income tax is still a temporary amendment in Canada, the right for government's to tax Canadian citizen's income has never been debated in the House of Commons!

Icky is definitely in the wrong place at the wrong time. He would have been wise to never consider working for a rat infested, mole eaten old polyester rag of a Political Party. I think he was sucked in because he wanted to see his picture in magazines trotting around the world and visiting palaces; playing the role he feels he was cheated out of by the Bolshevik Revolution. Like Lenin, he is a day late and a dollar short - Jackal Jacko is much more Canadian that Icky and Jacko is a mini man. PMSH represents his country with our well being in his heart and on his mind - he is like us, I am Canada. Our PMSH does not care about photo ops (he was rounded up for one such op by the southern "Youth" representing America!). If the Americans could, I am certain that they would swap us their "Youth" President for our mature, capable Prime Minister. If Icky wanted a top gument job he should have played in the junior league against the other landed immigrant to the US, IMO.

Posted by: Jema54 at May 28, 2009 3:04 AM

Crossposted at Stephen Taylor's blog:

Never one to speak humbly, regardless of his protestations to the contrary, Iggy says that Canadians are never to forget that THE LIBRANO$ created the country we live in? What about Canadians who've built this country and have had nothing to do with the Liberal Party of Canada?

'Seems to me in the six decades I've been living in Canada, getting an education, marrying, having a family, volunteering in my community, working, paying taxes, etc., etc., I must have had something to do with the building of my country, but in Count Iggula's vernacular, apparently, I didn't. According to his lights, it's the LPC that needs to be congratulated.

Who would have known?

So, the Liberals should be congratulated? For almost turning us into a socialist country -- which works for the elites but not for most of the rest of us, especially the middle class? For some of the highest taxes in the developed world? For having aborted over 2.5 million unborn children in the past 40 years? For a chaotic, run-amok immigration policy? For toxic multiculturalism and two-passport immigrants? For stealing $40,000,000 from Canadians through Adscam? For giving us PM Chretien and PM Martin, both puppets of a certain BIG BUSINESS in Quebec?

It's laughable his bragging about the Liberals' being "the natural ruling party of Canada." And, he's not being arrogant?

The only reason The Iggster can make these ridiculous claims is that he's so out of touch with the rest of us. He's parachuted into a country he has no organic connection with and lives only in his hermetically sealed Liberal world. He's totally out of touch with where most Canadians are.

He's an embarrassment. And if Canadians fall for him, I'm looking for an EXIT. We'll know, then, that we've been totally brainwashed -- certainly, one of the objectives of the LPC. I guess in their way of seeing things, brainwashing Canadians is something for them to be proud of. For the rest of us, it's a tragedy.

Posted by: batb at May 28, 2009 7:04 AM

“I am certain that they would swap us their "Youth" President for our mature, capable Prime Minister.”

Agreed. I can't think of anyone else, anywhere, who is as capable as PMSH. He is definitely our franchise player.

batb

I don't think it's brainwashing, I think voting patterns just highlight the different values Canadians have regionally. They don't care about us in central Canada, we're simply a resource to be exploited. There is nothing naive about it, central Canadians consciously support the oppression of western Canadians.

With friends like that; who needs friends?

Posted by: Indiana Homez at May 28, 2009 10:43 AM

The captive immigrants populations of GTA, the number of EI dependent eastern Canadians, the industry dependent on government hand outs, the number of government employees ensures that the Liberals will return to power. Sadly too many western people think they can change this type of "Canada". It won't happen. Just lie back and think of what the Reform Party should have been-a separatist party to gtf out of "Canada".

Posted by: Rob H at May 28, 2009 6:07 PM

Its inevitable that East & West become divided. The cultural divide is now a chasm. I expect the US will break apart into contending areas as well. The ground work has already been set in law. If not history.
This kind of polarization either ends up in civil war or just the severing of bonds over time as groups drift politically or religiously.

Heck who knows, parts of the US & Canada could join. All I do really think is with this great a land mass partitioning is inevitable with no single vision. Canada stayed together because of similar Anglo traditions incorporating French sensibilities. That foundation has been razed by the Liberals creating the social division to further personnel power. In the US certain Politicians have worked hard to make the Constitution. The glue of America. Make of it none effect, or twist it into the opposite of what was meant to be protected. The people. Without a Vision the people perish, or realign there loyalties.
This is what comes about when certain political figures think of Canadians as just a bank with workers to paint their legacy to the World. With us as serfs to the decomposition they call resurrection of a new culture here every 20 years. Using our hard earned money to look righteous.

Meanwhile they inflict the Inquisition called the HRC’s any who complain of they’re looting with entitlement like tyrants of old.
Canada is less a Country than a launching pad for the Family compact known as the Liberal party.
We have lost the right to be citizens. Where only subjects now & made to like it!
JMO

Posted by: Revnant Dream at May 28, 2009 10:54 PM

Indiana Homez -- I have said this before, if Alberta and Saskatchewan decide to leave Canada, puhleeez take BC too.

Posted by: gobidesert at May 28, 2009 11:48 PM

Steve: "EBD, if you define the GTA as everything east of the Ontario-Manitoba border, you nailed it."

This is the type of pig ignorance that makes me despair for the country. Um, Steve, this tiny fact may have escaped you, but Ontario elected fifty-one Conservatives in the last election. That's more than 1/3rd of their total seats. It's more Tories than Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta combined. So, please, get on your knees and kiss my puckered Eastern a** - without Ontario, PMSH would be backbencher SH.

Posted by: KevinB at May 29, 2009 3:40 AM
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