May 27, 2009

Top Unconservative Thing the Conservative Party has Done

Voting begins!

Posted by Kate at May 27, 2009 12:16 AM

I voted for "Banning incandescent light bulbs" which I feel is the same as "Pandering to the climate change/global warming fear mongers".

The "Banning incandescent light bulbs" thing is a gratuitous crime of commission while I think everything else that is listed are either acts of omission waiting on a CPC majority or responses to the dire economic crisis.

The exception being the appointment of senators which is largely dependent on the individual province's cooperation in electing them in the first place and of course the Bloc Coalition saw the vacant seats as political plums begging for a takeover of the Canadian government.

Posted by: Oz at May 27, 2009 1:49 AM

I went with "Massive increases in government spending and a return to deficit spending". I think this is one of those vote-early-vote-often deals (although I only did so once, I swear) ...

Posted by: nv53 at May 27, 2009 1:50 AM

I think two of the comments on the vote are worth repeating.

# wilson on May 26th, 2009 4:10 pm [#]

Definitely the auto bailouts, tho the alternate meant the entire industry moved to the US.

Are you working on the top ten Conservative things this government has done, Greg?
Some suggestions, if you are:

-Restore pride in and funding to our Military ending the Liberal Decade of Darkness

-Raise the age of consent to 16

-Put Tamil Tigers on the terrorist list

-Bring in the Accountability Act

-Income Splitting for Seniors

-Tackling Violent Crime Act

-Taxpayers Bill of Rights

-Universal child Care

-Tax Free Savings Account

-Labour Mobility Agreements, Interprovincial
# Nicola Timmerman on May 26th, 2009 7:16 pm [#]

I think the pandering to the climate change crowd is the worst because it is so dangerous. It can ultimately lead to the complete undermining of our economy and regulation after regulation.

I have to say the top conservative thing is bringing back pride and resources to our military.

It is easy to criticize their record until you consider they are a minority and exist at the pleasure of 3 extreme left leaning parties. You can't do anything but complain in the opposition benches. At least we are getting some benefit at present and many of the un-conservative items help to keep them afloat.Politics is not pretty and under the circumstances, compromise is necessary. The alternative is too disgusting to contemplate.

Posted by: Gunney99 at May 27, 2009 1:50 AM

I'm not going to post. I feel the Cons have been backed into a corner - they are doing the best that they can

So, ideology be damned - they are our best hope

Posted by: Erik Larsen at May 27, 2009 1:50 AM

I agree, Erik Larsen, but the "Banning incandescent light bulbs" thing really grates.

It was done when we all, including the CPC, thought things were rosey and I've had to stock up on a lot of bulbs to avoid a couple of $K replacing light fixtures.

By the way, that ban is going to kick in 2010?

ideology be damned - they are our best hope

Yeah, we take the policies we can afford.
Another gratuitous thing that really bothered me was recognizing Kosovo as an independent nation.
It wasn't in Canada's interest and it made the Prime Minister look like an American lap dog.

Posted by: Oz at May 27, 2009 1:59 AM

Agree Oz - that is a stupid thing to have done - I'm a libertarian at heart - and to ban something like that - well, it's fundamentally dumb

Whenever the government legislates something, there are always stupid unintended consequences

Posted by: Erik Larsen at May 27, 2009 2:11 AM

So, let's go negative instead of positive? I like wilson's comment about top ten things the Conservatives have done that we can agree with!

Posted by: Hunter at May 27, 2009 2:12 AM

Myself, I was at first naturally leaning towards the big-spending/return to deficits thing, but after careful thought and weighing all the consequential things over the long run, I realized that there's something even more important than money.

So the spending/deficits thing ended up in second place.

In first place is "Allowing the Human Rights Commission and Human Rights Tribunal to continue unhindered".

After all, hey, in places like Communist China, you can be as rich as rich can be, but what good is it if you have no liberty, no freedom, and know, at all times, that those fascists can do whatever they want to you and there's not much you can do about it?

So the worst offence of all is not terminating the hated so-called "Human Rights" Commission.

That said, the real test of whether a government is willing to do the right thing is when it's got a strong majority in the Commons. We must remember that we can't get as much as we want when the neo-Communists have a majority of seats in both chambers.

Which is why we must stick together to help the Conservatives get a strong majority, because what other option is there in this short lifetime? C'mon, everyone, make sure you talk up the Conservatives and talk down the neo-Communists at all times and opportunities, donate what you can, volunteer and, of course, vote Conservative. It's a vote well-cast, as I can assure you that the Canadian Conservative Party is, in my analysis, still worthy of our support... we just have to empower them to shove the Liberal Fascist Elites aside and serve the People!

Give the Conservatives a real chance, with the real empowerment they desperately need... help ensure them a majority victory over Count Iggula and the Librano$!

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 27, 2009 2:34 AM

As Gunney99 rightly pointed out at 27 May, 1:50 AM, the Conservatives have still done conservative things with which we agree. Absolutely.

I believe that there's even more than meets the eye, because a lot of things have to be done slowly and below the Big Media radar. Even the Left has to do things slowly, too, after all.

For sure there's lots of little things (of which we're not aware, as it hasn't necessarily been reported) that've been done to fix plenty of the stuff that the Leftists broke when they were in power.

And don't forget, the Conservatives have also restored Canadian national pride and standing on the world stage. After the Liberals took it away to appease their supporters on the ultra-extreme left and their business cronies, the foreign tyrants.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 27, 2009 2:40 AM

Can't we have more votes and transfer the votes if one of the 10 points gets enough votes. Oh, wait, what is enough? And how do I make sure my second and third votes go in the right pile (hmm - mmm so confusing - maybe one vote is better).

Anyway, it was a very hard choice, but I went with over-spending. Mackenzie Bowell and Charles Tupper never bailed out my relatives from their shoe-making, Ontario small farming and harness businesses in the late 1890's! Even Mulroney never bailed anyone out (officially) and neither did Cretin (officially). The kids just went west or south, same as today. So why start now? I HATE buying Ontario votes, just as I hated buying Quebec votes!

Having been raised by depression-era parents, I am already hoarding my plastic bags and new incandescent bulbs that fit my lamps before NANNY arrives to check greenness and make sure that I am not smoking in my own home. I am glad some voted for that bulb error. What do you do with those scary mercury ones? No one told me they were scary!

The CPC can not kill the HRCs without a majority, so we need to work hard for that! Long gun control (lack of) is a great election platform, so they could not kill it just yet. We need it. I just wish they could better communicate the conservative agenda to Canadians on all fronts! Ignoring the press was fine for a time, when they were newbies, but every CEO knows that when people are nervous, communicate, communicate!

Two are forgotten: 1) failing to decrease current levels of refugee claims and lowering immigration levels; and 2) failing to cut government spending (too many hired).

Posted by: BC STV-not at May 27, 2009 5:52 AM

Off topic: How come GG Michælle Jean can eat seal yet she can't eat cat?

Posted by: Allahbama Joe at May 27, 2009 6:53 AM

Couldn't pick them all and I want to know why the Chryco/GM bail out isn't on the list. I hate welfare, especially for incompetent managers.

Posted by: the bear at May 27, 2009 7:29 AM

Posted by: the bear at May 27, 2009 7:29 AM

It's on there, it got my vote. The voting options keep changing position on the list,

"Giving billion dollar bailout packages to poorly run companies"

Posted by: AtlanticJim at May 27, 2009 7:49 AM

It's not which one it's all in what order.

Posted by: Western Canadian at May 27, 2009 8:01 AM


The top Unconservative thing that the Conservative Party has done is "get elected."  And just when I was convinced that the Libs were turning Canada into a one-party state, too...


Posted by: Garth Wood at May 27, 2009 8:09 AM

Posted by: Hunter at May 27, 2009 2:12 AM

It's not about going negative or positive Hunter.

Our responsibility as voters and conservatives is not to cheer lead but to hold our representatives feet to the fire.

The slugs work for us, not the other way around and I do not play cheerleader for the people that work for me. I do my best to ensure they do the job I hired them to do.

Posted by: AtlanticJim at May 27, 2009 8:16 AM

The survey is, in my view, invalid because the questions are without context and even, incorrect.

The government did NOT 'recognize Quebec as a nation'. It recognized the Quebecois (which is the population not the geographic or political territory) as a nation within a united Canada.

Furthermore, the questions are fallacious because they are 'begging the question'; i.e., they rest on an assumption that the Conservatives could have, if they wanted to, carry out various actions.

Getting rid of the HRCs in a parliament with a majority who are socialists - would be impossible. Same with the gun registry. Same with public financing of those very same socialist parties.
Defining one choice as 'dubious' (children's sports credits) is a biased question.
Same with 'massive increases in government spending' - biased question ('massive') and demanded by the socialist majority.

How about 'appointing unelected senators', when there is no legal means, currently, of electing them? How about defining such an action as 'political expediency' rather than preventing the Liberals from stacking the Senate as they've always done?

So- the survey's questions are all biased and/or invalid.

The only valid question - and there's only one - is the one about light bulbs.

Posted by: ET at May 27, 2009 8:21 AM

Yes they are a minority, so maybe they couldn't scrap the long-gun registry or eliminate public financing of political parties but the others were choices, actions taken. First test should be 'do no more harm'; many of Prime Minister Harper's choices, actions fail that test from a conservative perspective.

I voted for the bailouts. Clearly a choice, clearly the antithesis of conservatism. So many to choose from!

Posted by: M Hawkins at May 27, 2009 8:39 AM

BTW ET, it isn't "getting rid of the HRCs", the item is "unhindered". A government has lots of means at its disposal beyond legislation (e.g., continued extensions of amnesty on gun registrations).

Posted by: M Hawkins at May 27, 2009 8:46 AM

I am an original Reformer in Oxford County, Ontario.
Putting water in our wine we morphed into Alliance and then to Conservative and elected Dave MacKenzie Woodstock's former police Chief.
So far so good, but sadly most of the ten unConservative things loom large in my mind.

The minority situation is obviously difficult, if one considers the fact that the hard leftist commie types that support Taliban Jack and the mushy left which would support a horny toad with a Liberal tag means there are fewer conservative voters in the country.
A hard row to hoe for conservatives bucking Canadian leftist corporate MSM infested with leftist lickspittle journalists.
I voted for HRC defanging.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at May 27, 2009 8:47 AM

The socialists very effectively got off their asses and got their ideas to dominate schools, media, entertainment and science. It is time conservatives did the same thing.

Posted by: Fritz at May 27, 2009 9:40 AM

What a ridiculous exercise in navel gazing stupidity this little competition is. I guess it’s all about finding your “inner liberal”.

Oh, and by the way numbskulls. It’s not the Conservative Party that’s not conservative. It’s the majority of Canadians that would have to take the credit or blame for that one.

All you’re doing is giving them a reason not to vote Conservative with all this self doubting and destructive guff. I’m sure your buddy WK is nodding his head in appreciation.

Posted by: Blame Crash at May 27, 2009 9:43 AM


-Income Splitting for Seniors

Got pick on you for this one. More privileges to the current group of sponges and deadbeats responsible for electing Trudeau and racking up the debt and refusing to pay for it isn't conservative.

You have income splitting for all or it's no different from "tax credits" instead of tax cuts.

In fact, for the current generation of old people, they should be given a special tax hike to give them their tab. You don't go to a restaurant and leave the bill for the young couple who comes in after you (or the poor server either.)

As for the broader question of unconservative things, I think ET said it best. They got elected. You do that by compromising. If you expect to live in Coyne's world of moral purity you will forever be the right's NDP. Nitpicking when they have a minority they'd like to upgrade is even more unreasonable.

Either you want the power to enact part of your agenda while slowing the creep of the liberal's agenda or you want pouting rights.

I'll take partial victory over pouting rights any day.

Posted by: Jason at May 27, 2009 9:48 AM

I'm with Joe, HRC defanging.

Soon the HRCs will make some ridiculous ruling that you can only express LIEberal opinions. I mean if you're going to have "thought police" then do it with gusto.

Gestapo, KGB, Stasi, and HRCs I think we've done them all now.


Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group "True North"

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at May 27, 2009 9:50 AM

#11) All of the above.

Posted by: Edward Teach at May 27, 2009 9:55 AM

Minority this, minority that...

Last election I was the only one who put up hundreds of signs in Brampton West. I was running 10 hour days on my dime hammering the poles into the ground.

The only other person who was putting up signs was the lady who oversaw the sign work. That's it, two of us. A couple of old fellows showed up and carried a couple of signs away to put on the neighbour's lawns. That's it.

Of course we lost the area by 100 votes. Can you hear it? 100 votes! Next time volunteer or shut up. You can't have it both ways, i.e. going on with your business and whining that the party did not get enough votes.

Giving billions to the poorly run companies is CPC informed decision, just as forcing mercury filled glass tubes into our homes. This is nothing but NDP governing style.

Posted by: Aaron at May 27, 2009 9:56 AM

How about really swinging this the other way?
What are the 10 worst things the Liberals have done to this country and its citizens?

Posted by: cryptic cynic at May 27, 2009 10:00 AM

Only 1/3 of Canadians vote conservative. Forcing conservative ideas on the majority is undemocratic.

Posted by: Fritz at May 27, 2009 10:06 AM

Fritz: "The socialists very effectively got off their asses and got their ideas to dominate schools, media, entertainment and science."

The socialists win every time they degrade family and motherhood and herd moms-of-children into the workplace en masse, while advocating substitute care as "as good as" or "better" than a child's being cared for at home by his/her own mother.

Families, by their very nature, tend to be conservative, in the sense of valuing and defending against the collective what works best for them. And what works best for them is not massive government intervention into their affairs either at home, at work, or in the school.

Once, however, all the adults in the family have become members of the collective and their children are out of their purview for eight to 10 hours a day, becoming indoctrinated to the state's way of looking at things -- and being shunned, ridiculed, and politically disadvantaged if they think independently of statespeak -- conservatism is sunk.

So, I'd say it's pretty much a miracle that we have any kind of conservative government in Canada at this point and marvel at Prime Minister Stephen Harper's achievements, given the pack of socialist yap dogs with sharp fangs nipping at his ankles and going for his jugular. However, as long as there's no "family table," as long as families are fractured and the collective dictates to them how to bring up their children and conduct their affairs -- with sanctions slapped on if they digress from the socialist path -- we're never going to see "a return" to conservatism.

Posted by: batb at May 27, 2009 10:09 AM

BTW, I'm also with Joe and Hans: Defang the HRCs. It would send a powerful message to the collective, that their nefarious deeds have been exposed to the light -- and that there's more light to come ...

Posted by: batb at May 27, 2009 10:16 AM


What you mean to say is that leftards all thought 1984 was a "how-to" manual instead of the warning it was meant to be.

Infesting media, schools and governments agencies in order to drive an agenda not voted on by the public isn't democracy.

And the Liberals usually govern with 40% or less of the electorate. Chretien got a majority with 38% of the votes cast. There have been few governments formed in Canadian history which have garnered a majority of the vote (3 I believe.) So bugger off about democracy as you don't understand the facts.

Posted by: Jason at May 27, 2009 10:24 AM

Because citizens cannot be self-governing without good information, and because the HRCs are an effort to destroy information, I vote for allowing the HRCs to flourish.

Posted by: nick at May 27, 2009 10:26 AM

Well wrote 'ET'. The Conservitives have to win 'one vote:one voice', it take a lot of changes after 45 yrs of lieberal rule.

As 'Garth Wood' posted 'The top Unconservative thing that the Conservative Party has done is "get elected."

Posted by: Merle Underwood at May 27, 2009 10:41 AM

"The socialists very effectively got off their asses and got their ideas to dominate schools, media, entertainment and science. It is time conservatives did the same thing.
Posted by: Fritz at May 27, 2009 9:40 AM "

Fritz has it right. Until we stop the indoctrination of children there is no hope of anything but more and more dumbed-down socialists out-voting all opposition to that insanity.

Posted by: Hello Birdy at May 27, 2009 11:29 AM

Then go to your children's school and oppose the teachers, for Chrissake!

Posted by: Aaron at May 27, 2009 11:30 AM

Then go to your children's school and oppose the teachers, for Chrissake!

Posted by: Aaron at May 27, 2009 11:30 AM

fritz - as batb has pointed out, the reason that the socialists dominate the schools, media, entertainment' (but not science - I'll argue with you on that) because in Canada, these systems are essentially run by the state. That is, by the collective rather than by individuals.

Conservativism is, in essence, focused on the individual as his own agent; that includes the family. That means that Conservative government isn't within the civil service but rests with the people.
Socialism (Liberal, NDP, Bloc, Marxism, Communism, Green) reject the individual as an intentional agent of his own life and as the real source of government and insist that the individual disappear within the Will of the Collective - which is to say, within the Will of the Government - the unelected massive bureaucracy, civil service, senate, and the hapless MPs.

So, Conservativism cannot move in to dominate the schools - if those schools are public rather than private, and if we have a nationalized media etc.

Genuine science must remain individual or it is no longer science. AGW is not science. A very real problem in Canada with our science research is that it is primarily funded by..guess who..the govt. This means that the review boards narrow and limit and politicize the grant awards.

The HRCs are slowly being defanged but not by the government as chief agent but by us, by The People. Conservativism moves power back from the central authoritarian civil service and back to the people.

We Canadians, governed so long by a central authoritarian government, are unused to 'being individual' and taking matters into our own hands. But that's what is happening with the HRCs. That's people like Ezra Levant, Kathy, Kate and others. We have to do more of this style of People Power rather than passively insisting that the goverment does everything.

Posted by: ET at May 27, 2009 11:32 AM

ET-"The only valid question - and there's only one - is the one about light bulbs."
There are other choices that deal with conservative goals. But to choose one of them over light bulbs ignores politics. That is idealistic rather than realistic.
Conservatives deal with the real.

Posted by: Cal at May 27, 2009 11:38 AM

The children are indoctrinated!

Get real. If that were the case then the hug-a-thugs would be right and crime really isn't the criminals fault...they were indoctrinated!

Everyone has a brain, most young people make their own decisions. That they're decisions may not agree with yours doesn't make them programmed, it makes you a narcissist.

Posted by: lance at May 27, 2009 11:42 AM


"but not science - I'll argue with you on that"

Argue away but the hard, university sciences are dominated by the Star Trek left. They rely on exclusively government sources for both pay and research money. Scientists are utopian by nature. I would extend the utopian Star Trek fantasy to compu-sci as well.

Now Engineers are different story.

Posted by: Jason at May 27, 2009 11:51 AM

Lance, oh, lance! You never talked to a child who says that global warming manifests itself in extremely cold winter 'because global warming leads to sudden climate changes'? I bet you never did.

You are dangerously overestimating ability of the children to come to their own conclusions. The children are blank sheets of paper that we are allowing the commies to write upon.

Posted by: Aaron at May 27, 2009 11:57 AM

Eliminate media bias and you eliminate the problem of normally very sane people going off on a tangent - forcing the CPC to 'water down'.

Neutralize the MSM and allow the voter to make THEIR take on issues - would result in a dramatic swing away from Nanny Statism.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at May 27, 2009 12:01 PM

voted for the bailouts, as it is everything a conservative shouldn't do... of course the minority government raises a question. Truly the most unconservative thing the CPC ever did was get elected.

Thank god they did. Imagine Taliban Jack as Minister of Industry. Imagine Dion's Green Shift having received a mandate. Shudder to think...

Posted by: meshuggah at May 27, 2009 12:11 PM

The most un-conservative thing that the government has done over the past three years and five months is generally this -- they have allowed fear to paralyze them.

The mantra comes through loud and clear in this thread, about one-third of the respondents don't even want to talk about this issue, they want to shift the emphasis to what's wrong with the Liberals or what's good about the CPC?

But we have to confront this issue soon, like before the next election, or the soi-disant Conservatives will be swept away. The Canadian people generally speaking have no idea what principles form the foundation of modern conservatism, because nobody is standing up for them. The media won't do so independently, and you certainly won't be hearing them in a classroom setting.

If the Conservative government and in particular its Cabinet ministers can't articulate real conservative values, then why not? It is partly because of fear, that to do so will bring punishment from the media. And it is partly because cynical opportunists who have taken over much of the party apparatus are only interested in power for themselves, and have no interest in conservative values.

They don't care if we surrender our economy to the eco-fascists and their lunatic theories. They don't care if human rights commissions and tribunals conduct show trials of political dissidents on the public dime. They don't even notice these things happening, because they are not really conservatives. All these people are, truth be known, are rejected Liberals who want the same power and entitlements, and don't mind using the blue colour scheme instead of the red one to get those rewards.

Sure, there's still some conservative principle mixed in, you can't just kill off a political movement over a few years by replacing some of the executive and by tolerating weak leadership. This is why the CPC is still half a loaf, so to speak, better than the miserable alternatives.

But that's not much of a slogan, "Better than the miserable alternatives." It's probably not even true in Quebec.

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at May 27, 2009 12:21 PM

Conservatives preach one thing and do the opposite.
Abjectly true to form, there is nothing unConservative in Harper's hypocrisy.

Posted by: philboy at May 27, 2009 12:23 PM


Liberal flip-flops:

GST (promised to scrap)
Wage and price controls (promised not to do)
Free trade (promised to scrap)

and many more irrelevant details.

Learn something. Fool.

Posted by: Jason at May 27, 2009 12:27 PM

Didn't your mother ever tell that two wrongs don't make a right, Jason?
Or maybe she hasn't gotten that far, toilet training being a priority.

Posted by: philboy at May 27, 2009 1:35 PM

If you play defense, you are playing for a tie.

Posted by: xiat at May 27, 2009 1:47 PM

In truth the most unconservative Thing the Conservative Party has Done is the gun registry thing. As long as it exists we are NOT free men.

I hate being a subject, I am and always will be a citizen.

Posted by: FREE at May 27, 2009 2:14 PM

I hate being a subject, I am and always will be a citizen.

Get real, Free.
All Canadians are subjects of the Crown.
That is why the Crown cannot be sued and also why protection of private property(ie. guns) is not a guaranteed right under the Charter.

Posted by: Oz at May 27, 2009 2:22 PM

I voted for deficit spending. The Conservatives projected a balanced budget and then backed off it because of political pressure. So on one hand the Conservatives are not conservative regarding fiscal policy; but, regarding politics I think they took the conservative route, that was not to rock the boat too much.

wrt problems for the Conservatives and indoctrinated kids: Yes I agree the schools are attempting to indoctrinate our kids because they teach many issues as "settled"(ie gay marriage is a “right” according to my kids teacher). This is a major issue for everyone IMO, but I don't think it's the Conservatives #1 major issue. The only thing preventing the Conservatives from having(past and future) a majority is the overwhelming number of women that vote Liberal/NDP. The pattern seems to be the more unconservative the Conservatives become, the more women will vote for them; therefore, we have a paradox. It will take generations of women having "real" jobs before a cultural shift can happen. As long as women dominate the industries dependant on government money & entitlements they will continue to vote in overwhelmingly large numbers for socialist parties.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at May 27, 2009 2:37 PM

I agree with Blackbeard, #11 - All of the above.

In all fairness to the CPC, it is hard to be truly conservative with a minority. Remember, prying all those off the public teat will end up with a bunch of whiney babies at first. Now if we could have only those weaned being able to vote then that would be progress.

btw, Nova Scotia is in full election mode so the promises of bribing us with our own money is in high gear here. A doctor for every citizen is one. Queue up the Emergency Medical Hologram...

Posted by: Texas Canuck at May 27, 2009 3:45 PM

All Canadians are subjects of the Crown.
That is why the Crown cannot be sued and also why protection of private property(ie. guns) is not a guaranteed right under the Charter.
Posted by: Oz at May 27, 2009 2:22 PM

Uh turdoh removed the crown from this country a long time ago.. what you see with GG is nothing but smoke and mirrors.

Posted by: FREE at May 27, 2009 4:12 PM

The Queen is still Canada's Head of State and furthermore the Crown is the basis of all of our law.

Posted by: Oz at May 27, 2009 4:36 PM

Actually the MAGNA CARTA is the basis for our laws... oh why bother I would get better comprehension from a rock.

Posted by: FREE at May 27, 2009 5:06 PM

And who signed the Magna Carta into law?
Why, it was the Crown!
It was by fiat.

Posted by: Oz at May 27, 2009 5:21 PM

A contender for Mr. Harper's most unconservative action is his inaction on the ever-widening gap between aboriginals and ordinary citizens. Our liberals fashion themselves as guardians of equal rights even as they advocate the increasing and entrenching of permanent discrimination in favour of aboriginals. Mr. Harper recognized this hypocrisy until he became PM. Now the liberals might as well be running the INAC show.

Posted by: Dick Estey at May 27, 2009 7:07 PM

Aaron at May 27, 2009 9:56 AM

I do the signs for Ottawa-Vanier. We got out 5 teams thew first night and had 100 arterials up in 24 hours.

We lost, as usual, in ottawa-Vanier, and not by 100 votes.

Do you have an "unprivate" e-mail I can talk with you about the doing of electoral signs.

Posted by: RW at May 27, 2009 8:48 PM

Oz at May 27, 2009 5:21 PM

Oz, it was the crown, for sure; but under the knives of the barons always ready to overthrow the crown.

Posted by: RW at May 27, 2009 8:50 PM

Harper/Flaherty are not up to the challenge of fiscal manageent. These past 6 months have been a disaster. And these clowns don't know what is going on.

Posted by: aa at May 28, 2009 12:15 AM

and I suppose you do, aa?

You want to see a clown that doesn't know what's going on? Take a look to the South; the great Obamessiah is in way over his head. The U.S. is in much rougher shape than we are. 'Only problem being, that if the elephant goes down, it's bound to land on the mouse.

Posted by: batb at May 28, 2009 7:19 AM

I agree with Erik Larsen at May 27 1:51 am. CPC is playing a bad hand very well indeed.

However, I'm not letting them off the hook on the gun registry. That's got to be done, the amnesty is nice but insufficient.

Posted by: The Phantom at May 28, 2009 11:35 AM