Gee, this is beginning to take on the same kind of moves as if it was taking place in Manila.

The shoe is on the other foot.

Well then, that would seem to clear up the matter, does it not? The ball is now in Dhalla's court; it will be interesting to see how the matter progresses from here on. I think it can only get this minister in deeper than she is now.

Minister? Where?

Isn't she kicking stones down the street yet?

We need recall provisions. Of course to follow after criminal proceedings have taken place and IF a verdict of guilty is reached.

Ruuuby! You have some splaining to do...

This is sure turning into she said;they said thing. Well if the Conservatives can keep from any low and racist 'msm' remarks, they can keep the wanabe 'MI the royal one' on the burner for a while yet. You keep going 'I Ruby', keep them flames burning.

Ruby duby duby - whatcha doin' girl?!
Did you append; 'Brampton Filipino Seniors Club' to this letter?!

iRube as anon sez u gots sum splainin' to do gal! And oh and what a tangled web we weave and all that stuff.

"The letter (Dhalla) presented in the inquiry...was prepared by the office of Ms Dhalla." Ahh, that would explain the over-the-top testimonial, as in, "We have seen firsthand Ruby's commitment to people, to Brampton and the Filipino community. Whenever anyone has needed her she has always been there."

Erm, keep up the good fight, Ruby.

Ah..these Bollywood soap operas (!) :)))

Show us how much you really care,Aurora G. Villanueva,and back up your community by not voting Lieberal next time.Oh are you just a Phillipino version of I Ruby?
And who is this Atkins twit? Nice to see he upholds that high journalistic standard by investigating and "proofing" his stuff before he prints it,instead of just blindly following the Lieberals butts.
But then I guess onnocent until proven guilty is for leftards only,and not anybody else.Well.In their world anyway.

Sheeeesssshhh..."innocent".Where's my coffee?

What a tangled web we weave,
when we practise to deceive.

iRuby's in a bit of a spot now, isn't she? I don't imagine this is the first time she's taken advantage of a relationship to try to show herself in a good light.

The web of deceit is becoming unravelled. Who's surprised?

The assumption that Canada could successfully import whoever from abroad and instantly elect them into legislature was wrong, wasn't it?

Is everyone comfortable being ruled by the 3d world slave traders and document forgers?

It'll be interesting to see the media, which has tried to turn this into a question of whether Ruby is the target of an eeevil conspiracy to get her, doing their best to ignore or underplay this.

"However, when I signed the letter, I was unaware of the seriousness of the allegations of abuse. I was feeling sick at that time and was not properly informed. I was misled by not being provided with sufficient information to make an appropriate decision."

Pelosi and now Aurora G. Villanueva not properly informed. How does this always happen to liberals?

The plot thickens in the soap opera "As Ruby Turns and Twists".........

Given the formality of both the "confession" and "retraction" one might cynically infer that Aurora had found herself between a rock and a hard place.

That was my take as well, Sgt.

It appears that "feeling sick" Ms. Villanueva was coached by HRC lawyer Giacomo Vigna in writing the letter...

MR. VIGNA: Sorry. Mr. Chair, I don't have the flu but I don't feel in a serene state of mind to proceed with the file today. I don't feel very well. I feel dizzy, I feel anxiety, and I am not in a serene state of mind to proceed with this file today.

I have a lot of things worrying me right now and I don't want to elaborate, but my colleague said, Mr. Fine, there are some certain incidents that have occurred which I don't feel at liberty to elaborate right now, which have had an impact on my ability to proceed in a professional way on this file, at least for today, because I wouldn't be rendering the Commission a just service by proceeding in this condition.

I am not dying, Mr. Chair, I don't have the flu, but I am not mentally capable of proceeding under these circumstances.

THE CHAIRPERSON: But the witness is here?

MR. VIGNA: The witness is here. It's not the question of the witness. The witness is here. I thought until this morning that I would proceed, but I really don't feel primarily mentally able to proceed, and physically too.

MS. KULASZKA: I am very concerned about this very hush hush allegation that some sort of breach of security has happened. The only people who have been here for the last two days are us, either counsel or a representative of the party. No one else has been here in this room. I know of no incident outside that's happened....

MR. CHRISTIE: I have heard two explanations which are as frivolous as any I have ever heard in justifying an adjournment of a whole proceeding… To say I am not feeling well, but sit here and talk about it, is inconsistent. There is no medical certificate, and I heard very faintly Mr. Vigna say I'm not physically sick, I don't have a serene state of mind. Very few of us in the difficulties we face always have a serene state of mind. I don't know what that means.

This is not a case of a nervous breakdown or a mental state justifying a psychiatric examination. I am certain of that. To say I don't feel like doing it today is insulting...

MR. VIGNA: Mr. Chair, I will provide a medical certificate.

THE CHAIRPERSON: Please sit down, Mr. Vigna.

MR. VIGNA: I feel insulted by that comment.

THE CHAIRPERSON: Please sit down.

Being unwell seems to be the Get Out of Jail Free card for many people these days.

Post by: Aaron at May 21, 2009 7:28 AM

'Aaron' she was born in Canada.

That does not mean she acquired Canadian culture. Of course if you don't consider enslaving the immigrants as part of it. The broad is still an import in my books.

...I must be understood that I did it in my own way to help a friend.

With Liberals for friends who needs enemies?

The assumption that Canada could successfully import whoever from abroad and instantly elect them into legislature was wrong, wasn't it?

Are we talking about Ruby or Iggy?

Seems she was duped into signing something without knowing what it was going to be used for. She's quite possibly a senior herself. Irregardless, I'm glad she has set the record straight.
As to calling her a "broad" and an "import", thats pretty narrow. I have several friends and co-workers that are Filipino and they are some of the hardest working and talented people I know.

No defence for Ruby Dhalla here, but broad-brush smearing of immigrants is really out of place. Dhalla, it seems to me, is operating in a long-established tradition of political hucksters operating in immigrant communities, making alliances with a major political party (in Canada, normally the Liberals) to make themselves godfathers (or godmothers) in those communities. They deliver the votes and push for jobs and grants for their community (and special treatment for themselves). To some extent, it's what all MPs do, except in this case, it tends to be more raw and exclusive. Not all immigrants, however, fall into line, and there are a number of immigrant or first generation provincial and federal politicians who make an honest effort to represent all of their constituents. You just don't find that many of them in Vancouver, Montréal, or the GTA.

If you didn't write the letter but SIGNED it then it IS your responsibility. Can't backpeddle on it now. Nice try but not gonna wash.

Glastnost writes:

With Liberals for friends who needs enemies?

It should actually read:

With Liberals for friends who needs enemAs?

Whatda yah wanna bet that Giggles Taber makes mention of this?

How about Fife? this is too funny.

The rumble of Liberal head's exploding.

What's that, a Liberal exaggerating and bending the real truth? A Liberal trying to make it appear they have the support of a group, without their permission, and when really they don't? Please say it ain't so!

In response to "If you didn't write the letter but SIGNED it then it IS your responsibility. Can't backpeddle on it now. Nice try but not gonna wash."

Sure you can backpedal. You can retract the letter based upon the fact that you signed it not having full information. In fact, you can even just change your mind for no reason and retract it. So what? The new letter clearly sets the record straight that (a) this person never spoke on behalf of the Brampton Filipino Seniors Club, and (b) knowing the facts now, the person rescinds their support.

This isn't just a "he said/she said" story, as (a) there are a number of nannies telling the same story, and (b) the nannies have outside uninterested third parties (i.e. INTERCEDE) who support their claims that documentation was withheld and that Ruby was personally involved.

On a macro level, this is more of a textbook situation of how NOT to conduct damage control. Ruby's actions have blown this issue up. She's only in her 30s - take your lumps, plead mea culpa, lie low for a year or two, and come back strong. It is the way political survivors deal with these issues.

The Filipino community could love Ruby. Ruby could be loved by billions of people. That is all totally irrelevant. The issue is not that Ruby is or is not a wonderful human being. The issue is: did this abuse take place and, if so, did it take place with her knowledge. Ruby's sainthood is not a factor - this is nothing but Liberal smokescreening.

The first and last paragraph of the (original) letter she wrote made it sound like she was well aware of the issue. The rest of it was just fluff and a character reference.

It looks to me like she wrote the letter, and she or somebody added the title to give it weight. I suspect it was her (or at least she was aware of it) because the seniors club is referenced in the last paragraph. The Fillipino Seniors Club probably took her to task for using their name inappropriately, and forced her to withdraw the letter, or they would have withdrawn it for her.

Just speculating.

On a side note, I love how this senior uses the excuse that she was sick, she was confused, she didn't understand what she was writing. If I suggested that about a senior I would be instantly accused of discriminating against old people.

"The assumption that Canada could successfully import whoever from abroad and instantly elect them into legislature was wrong, wasn't it?"

Oh you crazy SDAers. You just can't help yourselves can you? You can't even keep comments like these in check while pretending to be outraged by the abuse of immigrant workers...

I just want to see her naked. Where are the naked pics??/

Do any of you believe that the nannies laid on the couch side by side with Ruby's mother and then the mother would cook for them while they laid about? Of course this letter was a fake. This is the liberal way. Lie, deflect and accuse. Remember when one Liberal MP thought she saw porn on a CPC MP's laptop? Remember the uproar? Can you imagine if a CPC member was caught doing what Ruby has done? OMG...they'd be calling for a hanging. As for Giggles as commented on earlier...she's so enamoured with Iggy, the liberal puff pieces will never stop. Iggy wife # 2, better be careful!

This is hilarious. Ruby, Ruby, Ruby......always entertaining, even when the camera isn't rolling.

Anyway, I think it's pretty obvious who wrote the letter. Note it refers to 'Dr. Ruby Dhalla...' Who other than our Ruby thinks she has a right to be addressed as 'Dr.'

OT, but, relevant to Dhalla Nana Iggy's political future.

This is a saver; get screen shots.
CBC uses ‘adscam’ in a headline.

CBC does not use Liberal Chretien-Martin ‘adscam’.

CBC only uses Liberal at the end: “The ensuing scandal devastated the Liberal party in Quebec and helped drive it out of power in the 2006 federal election.”

This is the most important item:

>>> “the Quebec court also ordered 22 people — mostly current and former government employees — to state under oath”.

Does this qualify for the QOTD?

More Truth Ads, please.
…-

“Top court to hear Globe’s appeal over ‘adscam’ confidential sources

CBC News

The Supreme Court of Canada will hear the Globe and Mail’s appeal of a lower court’s order aimed at uncovering the identity of a confidential source used by the reporter who broke the story of the federal sponsorship scandal.

The top court’s decision was announced in a release on Thursday without comment.

At the heart of the case is the federal government’s $35 million lawsuit against ad firm Le Group Polygone, one of the ad companies accused of overbilling Ottawa, to recuperate funds paid to the firm as part of the so-called “adscam.” The case is expected to go to trial in Quebec in October.

The Quebec Superior Court at one point ordered Globe reporter Daniel Leblanc not to write about out-of-court negotiations for repayment between the government and the ad firm.

At the request of Polygone, the Quebec court also ordered 22 people — mostly current and former government employees — to state under oath whether they’d given information to Leblanc.”
urlm.in/clxd (cbc)

This is insane. The depths to which people will sink....

"The broad is still an import in my books."

Wow Aaron, aren't you quite the racist bigot... or are you simply a misogynist?

Just because you are a proud member of the Aryan Brotherhood doesn’t make you a better person than Ruby.

That does not mean she acquired Canadian culture. Of course if you don't consider enslaving the immigrants as part of it. The broad is still an import in my books.
Posted by: Aaron at May 21, 2009 10:10 AM

Keep in mind Aaron, that not all immigrants are by default Liberal supporters. I immigrated to Canada 20 years ago from another continent and have always supported a conservative cause. Such comments serve only to portray us conservatives as rednecks.

And yes, we need to keep Dhalla's feet to the fire on this - she entirely deserves this (unwelcome on her part) attention. But her ethnic background has nothing to do with this.

Statement from the nannies debunking the "conspiracy" theory.

http://www.sgmlaw.com/en/newsevents/SGMNewsDetail.cfm?ID=171

Wonder why this little nugget didn't make the news?

Oh who am I kidding...no I don't.

Forain

I doubt you'll dispute that on both sides of the political spectrum some people say stupid racist things. The difference between the left and the right is when someone on the left does this the entire group rationalizes the statement, never criticizes it; whereas, when someone on the right does the same the rest of us are embarrassed and we hold them to account, as has been demonstrated on this thread. The real issue is on the left, selective bigotry is one of the tools to push the agenda forward. I believe reverse racism is the term, and it’s not a crime as far as leftist institutions and people are concerned.

Back on topic.

There's nothing new here, and all of this will amount to nothing. I predict Ruby hangs on to her seat next election and the liberals make gains in Ont and Que regardless of, well, anything.

btw Kelly, a small pet peeve of mine, irregardless is not a word.

adam

""""Keep in mind Aaron, that not all immigrants are by default Liberal supporters.""""

nope, I'm not a lieberal supporter either, but me thinks Aarons point was that lieberals will do almost any thing to appease any and all minority groups just to garner votes, rather than govern, and Ruby happens to be a Canadian born "immigrant" ( in lieberal thinking)that covers a lot of ground, dark skin, sexy, female, minority. Ruby is above her pay grade (capabilities), and one must ask why????

Ruby appears to have been conforming to "cultural" norms, so she has not "canadianized" all that well.

Forain

I forgot, the most glaring flaw in your statement is it appears you're unaware that Aaron is a troll, he's one of yours.

Apparently leftards are smart enough to operate in independent cells. This way they can't roll over on each other if they're being water-boarded.

I think the most important consideration is just who appended the title to the letter.

If it was Villanueva she's trying to undo what she did. If not, then either the media did (and they should answer for it) or Ruby did and she should answer for it.

Who's the villain in this story?

Indiana,I concur,Aaron has been here before... I had an interesting conversation with a leftard freind about the Dholly affair yesterday. He was twisting himself in knots when I asked him which side had the most plausible story. His dilemna was that there was not an obvious bad guy (white person) in this story,and to actually denounce a visible minority person was giving him fits.

The reality of this whole "Ruby-said/nannies-said" exercise is that Ruby can only lose.

Whatever the truth of the matter, politics is a game of public perception. Ruby's conundrum is this: how on earth, as a seemingly high-powered, up-and-coming politician, does she challenge the testimony of a couple of humble Filipino nannies without seeming utterly mean-spirited and heartless to the public?

Her lawyer has already done her no great favour by implying some sort of conspiracy theory with persons unknown out to get her. Two strikes against her right there. First, there's her credibility: Filipino nannies in a convoluted Canadian political conspiracy? Come off it.* Secondly, it's all about poor little Ruby, isn't it?

Unless she can come up with close circuit TV footage of Harper in a Toronto hotel lobby handing the nannies an envelope containing $75,000, she's going to have to wear this one.

And because she is a politico, the sublime irony is that she'd be among the very first to yell for blood if an opponent across the floor were caught in the same predicament.

By the way, no partisanship intended here. It's not a Lib or a Tory or Kneedipper thing, it's the price of being in politics.

* Say what you like about the old blarney-master, but at least Brian Muldoon is sparring with a credible villain in public eyes (a dodgy German businessman)!

Forain, and you can't help taking them seriously.

Don't expect MSM to report this breaking news bulleton, if it makes the Liberal Party look even the slightest bit stinky they won't report it.

wallyj

Apparently your friend didn't have their HDIG scorecard(historically disadvantaged identifiable groups) with her. By my count Ruby is the victim here; she's a visible minority, a woman, and her lifestyle choices are being assailed. If you're looking for a Whiteman to blame, blame them all. Blame them for creating a society that is insensitive to the desires of those(who are not white) that wish to enslave foreign women. I've actually heard somewhere that some people are born that way, so it would be unjust to expect them to take responsibility for their actions.

Dear Kelly, Dhalla was referred to as a 'broad' and 'import'.

"I've actually heard somewhere that some people are born that way, so it would be unjust to expect them to take responsibility for their actions."

If that doesn't cut it, she could also use the time honoured argument made by millions of women that she's "accustom to such a life style". That should cover it.

Yes, Richard, I am a racist bigot. I come across as racist more and more, the longer I live in Canada, where I came as an immigrant 9 years ago.

While installing the signs last federal election, I was asked quite a few times by the immigrants (mostly from Asia) if the CPC candidate was white, and heard a sigh of relief when they learned that he was. Some of them went lengths about how sick they are of the perspective of having an Indian MP in the riding.

Not everything in Canada is my fault, you know.

"Oh you crazy SDAers. You just can't help yourselves can you? You can't even keep comments like these in check while pretending to be outraged by the abuse of immigrant workers..."

This is so idiotic, who can resist tossing a shoe at it?

Actually, I am not pretending to be outraged by the abuse of immigrant workers. It is standard procedure when newcomers show up with no skills and little or no language ability. What did they expect? (other than to be elected to parliament)

Most of our ancestors came here and did the crappy jobs for little money while being treated somewhat badly. The beauty of a FREE society is that you have upward mobility, but you have to work hard for it. Maybe take a little abuse along the way. That used to be called building character.

A lot of us born-here Canadians go through horrid times when first entering the work force unless we happen to have demand skills and an ability to communicate.

Immigration comes with great sacrifice that may only pay off in the second generation when their kids who are more assimilated into the larger society and are better equipped to go and make their own life. Aaaaand unless they are part of the religion of peace, they probably will have networked and made a lot friends and connections while growing up and going to school.

It's not as though Ruby was water-boarding them is it?

This is shaping up to be more of a cat fight based on envy than anything else.

Adam wrote, “And yes, we need to keep Dhalla's feet to the fire on this - she entirely deserves this (unwelcome on her part) attention. But her ethnic background has nothing to do with this.”

I agree with the first part of this statement, but not the second: WHERE has Adam been since multiculturalism and diversity became the new religions of this country? (In fact, the new, and unimproved, religion of all the post-Christian Western world?)

Ruby’s a “visible minority” Canadian. Therefore, all along the way, she’s been given all kinds of leeway and is "entitled to her entitlements". Notice her shock—yes, shock!—at being expected to be held accountable for her possibly less than sterling actions.

I’ve been in the Canadian school system for nearly four decades. It used to be that all students were held to high behavioural standards: there were serious—unpleasant—consequences for infractions. Now? We’re drowning in behaviour codes, but there are virtually no consequences, ESPECIALLY for visible minorities—and the worst of them play this game for all it’s worth. Ruby’s a Liberal: her party—Trudeau, 1982 Charter—invented the double standard.

Thanks to the Liberals and liberals, who have run this country into the ground, by their own rules, not because of so-called conservative bigotry, race has a whole lot to do with this.

I don't expect much from the MSM. While they were on Mulroney I asked the question where did Chretien get a 25 million dollar trust fund? I have a pretty good idea where it came from but they didn't seem to want to look at it. I remember when he was limiting contributions to the parties he said there are no limits on my trust fund. Liberals don't lie, they 'mis-speak.'

Requiem for Liberal Dhalla Nanny Iggy: Ruby’s Mine.

Ruby…

My little Nanny.

The sun shines east– the sun shines west–
I know where– the sun shines best!

It’s on my Nanny Ruby I’m talkin’ about, nobody else’s!
(H/T Al Jolson)

Hello Birdy, if the allegations are true these women were pretty much the Dhalla family house slaves. I wouldn't be inclined to focus on the character building aspects of that.

NP has the story up, add your comments or I shall be there by myself alone all alone with her. I don't like to eat on the floor like a dog or a slave.

Rose... sorry... who?

"Hello Birdy, if the allegations are true these women were pretty much the Dhalla family house slaves. I wouldn't be inclined to focus on the character building aspects of that."

Thankfully, somehow, they managed to escape the plantation. No doubt the whip welts will eventually go away.

I have some advise for any other possible house slaves in Canada. Think Paul Simon and

Just slip out the back, Jack, make a new plan, Stan Don't need to be coy, Roy, just listen to me
Hop on the bus, Gus, don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee, and get yourself free

I am not defending I Ruby, but she actually is innocent until da proof is da proof.

Again, I think this based on envy and it's a cat fight.

But you can't hop on a plane, Wayne, if powerful MP Ruby Dhalla has a grudge against you along with your passport.
And really, cat fight? If they were guys would it be a whole different thing?

Cat fight???? I want to meet your dealer,he's obviously got the best.

Aaron writes: "The assumption that Canada could successfully import whoever from abroad and instantly elect them into legislature was wrong, wasn't it?

Is everyone comfortable being ruled by the 3d world slave traders and document forgers?"

Is this the same European Aaron that likes wheezy little 1100cc engines in his cars? You're a dork, dude.

Crooked behavior and beating up the nanny is a Liberal thing, not Sikh thing. If the allegations are true, I'd say she's acculturated to Liberal white bread Toronto perfectly.

"But you can't hop on a plane, Wayne, if powerful MP Ruby Dhalla has a grudge against you along with your passport."

All right, just for fun Mr. Mambo, In Canada, you do NOT need a passport especially if you are not white.

You can be an instant refugee just for the asking, but remember don't show them any ID whatsoever ... Just make up a story of persecution and they will take your word for it.

Now that gig pays about $2600. a month with a host of great benefits that includes all medical, dental and even a freaking bus pass.

Who needs to be a nanny?

Now, if you are a retiring standard Bb white Canadian who worked and paid taxes all your life, but not for the government, you will qualify for less than half of what a lying refugee can get sans the bus pass.

You see Mr. Mambo, I really don't give much of shit about the slave-owning Liberals and their oh-so mistreated Nannies. They are all a creation of Pierre's great Mosaic. It is the epitome of the political correct sickness that grips our climate-change-terrorized citizenry ...

It's all fluff! It's not important and there is not much we can do about people like I, Ruby actually being a member of parliament either.

If you can handle one more point Mr. Mambo, It's this ... Under our promotion of ethnic minorities forming enormous ghettos in our major cities, the intent of our democratic system is warped by vote stacking within a minority group's political region ... where they are the MAJORITY.

We have such bigger fish to fry than salivating over the to and fro of these Liberals and their whining servants that I see this entire issue as an opportunity for some comic relief.

What is it with documents and the Lieberal Party??

Verbal reports, at inflated prices.. no documentation? Judy Scroat signs for strippers to work for her connected "made man" friends, Cretien signs a bill of sale, for his hotel...... on a napkin. A former Solicitor General, signs a sluts husbands name ...so she can get an abortion..
These people have a way with paperwork that, well just boggles the mind!!

And now we have Ruby's "endorsement letter" which, like anything a LIEBERAL touches, does not pass the smell test!

KEEP her around. PRIME MINISTER Steven Harper can always use this kind of help!!!
Makes an average Canadian's day!!

Unless that Canadian is a CBC fan...LOL.

Ruby Dhalla. Now abusing seniors.
In Canada. We did not make this up.
Choose your Canada.

I give points to the Senior just for gumption to stand up to this parade of disorderly liars.
As usual Kate, a witty headline. Still laughing.

I give points to the Senior just for gumption to stand up to this parade of disorderly liars.
As usual Kate, a witty headline. Still laughing.

LIBERAL MP DHALLA LIES NEVER ENDS. SHE'S A REAL MANIPULATOR. ME...ME...AND ME FIRST, IS HER ATTITUDE. THE MAIN ISSUE OF THE ALLEGATION WAS SHE EMPLOYED THE TWO CAREGIVERS WITHOUT LMO, AND THAT'S BREAKING THE LAW. SHE WANTS TO MISLED THE CANADIANS BY DENYING AND DENYING. TO FILIPINO COMMUNITY-THINK TWICE BEFORE VOTING THE LIBERALS ON NEXT ELECTION....