"Really, to get an idea of how awful it is, you’d have to sit a dog on a ham slicer."
h/t TimR
Posted by Kate at May 19, 2009 9:38 AMLove the review, I think I will take my Range rover for a spin, sad that can't have the turbo-deisel version thanks to California.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2009 10:49 AMWho would have thunk that a pine stinker hanging from the rear view mirror was a green statement?
Posted by: ural at May 19, 2009 10:56 AMQuite funny, and yet it seems accurate.
And, ural, there's one in every car.
Posted by: KevinB at May 19, 2009 11:19 AMThey forgot to put a windmill on the roof and made the fenders, trunk and hood as solar panels to charge the battery has you go...Idiots!;-)
Like Toyota's ecobox ("Man! I should have kept the real car I had 'Prius' to this piece of shyt"), Honda's new mistake will not sell either as they won't see any buyers anywhere 'Insight'.
Hints:
-Oil is still relatively cheap and people are noticing more and more that the world is not warming or swept away by giant hurricanes.
-In Europe, where taxes on petrol is extremely high, they drive much smaller vehicles. Some cars have only 2 cylinders and 3 wheels.
-Natural gas and coal transformation to fuel is also still an option and in large quantities.
-Until someone finds the way to produce hydrogen cheaply (Requires tremendous amounts of electricity which currently makes it's production redundant) and we can safely distribute and use it (Highly volatile and explosive)
THEN FOSSIL FUELS ARE HERE STILL BY FAR OUR BEST CHOICE.
Speaking of windmills ...
Can humanity be saved with 13th-century technology?
Does anybody know many more windmills there are in Holland today as compared to the 13th century?
Posted by: set you free at May 19, 2009 11:29 AMset you free, where is Don Coyote when you need him?
Posted by: Ken at May 19, 2009 11:37 AMFrom the review:
In the Insight you are constantly reminded, not only by the idiotic dashboard, which shows leaves growing on a tree when you ease off the throttle
To be scientifically correct, the leaves growing on trees should display when you are flooring this baby, and burning fuel, which would then provide the "pollutant" known as CO2 which makes leaves grow on trees. It sounds like Honda got everything bass-ackwards in their "Insight"ful design.
; )
Noel
"To be scientifically correct, the leaves growing on trees should display when you are flooring this baby, and burning fuel, which would then provide the "pollutant" known as CO2 which makes leaves grow on trees. It sounds like Honda got everything bass-ackwards in their "Insight"ful design."
; )
Noel
You are absolutely right Noel, but the few idiots (The very vocal leftard minorities) who will buy these think that Co2 is a poison. They're the same imbeciles who think buying and eating organic is beneficial to their health (No scientific proof whatsoever) and to their fellow men (It takes more land to yield the same amount vs. using modern farming, thus creates more third world hunger not to mention forest depletion for agri purposes).
Bearded berkenstock freaks are an obstruction to mankind's evolution AND A THREAT TO ECOSYSTEMS!.
This sounds eerily like the episode of South Park where it was said: "IT beat's dealing with the air lines".
""The Entity" is episode 511 of the Comedy Central series South Park. It originally aired on November 21, 2001. The episode is partially a parody of the hype and anticipation at the time surrounding the Segway, which was code-named "IT" before its official unveiling in December 2001." Wikipedia
You all sound like a bunch of "right-wing extremists" with your complaining. It has been saidith by the Owe that this is the type of vehicle Americans have been demanding for a decade. If not for GWB and the Big Three’s ignorance to this fact, the economy wouldn’t be in shambles as it is today. Cars too cold, put on a sweater! Rides too bumpy, put more or less air into the tires!
I look forward to the day when stupid customers are not the driving force behind what gets produced and retailed. I’m getting sick and tired of improvements, it’s not fair for those that choose not to improve!
Wow, an auto journalist who doesn't know what CVT is. Clue: the Prius also uses a CVT.
Also (regarding the energy to manufacture) apparently Honda's figures can be dismissed because they are not immediatly obvious to this reviewer (who dismisses climate change by the same method).
So all in all, good job keeping article quality up, more proof that Obama is a radical socialist/moon-shuttle-conductor.
Posted by: Wilbert at May 19, 2009 12:43 PMWilbert
Feel free to be one of the fools parted with their money. Go out and buy one of your own. Then you have to drive it...
Posted by: Warwick at May 19, 2009 12:59 PMWarwick:
Why would I buy one? The last generation Insight was small and unpleasant, though it got good mileage. From what I've heard the new Insight is much the same.
Apparently SDA sucks at both engineering and reading comprehension, since I never even mentioned if I liked the Insight in my last post.
Education: not just for leftards anymore!
Posted by: Wilbert at May 19, 2009 1:28 PMRight Honorable Terry Tory,
I am leaving the military soon, if I grow a beard does that make me a moonbat? My wife thought it might look good on me.
Would it look funny if a beared guy was educating people on the myth of global warming?
I will never buy one of those hybrid cars as I believe they are crap and I also refuse to drink the koolaid. I also heavily suspect my VW Passat diesel is just as enviromentally friendly. It doesn't have a bunch of batteries that need to be discarded one day, nor does it consume copious amounts of fuel.
As far as beards go, I'll leave that debate open.
Posted by: Rick from AB at May 19, 2009 1:37 PMbeared=bearded, geez I spell like a lefty.
Posted by: Rick from AB at May 19, 2009 1:39 PMDear Dilbert;
The right are not demanding you do or buy anything. The left are demanding and implementing policies which will dramatically affect our way of life, standard of living, freedoms etc. When we ask for the proof which back-up your demands for this change, we are belittled and called deniers etc. by your ilk.
The left thinks everyone is going to accept their twisted logic, without a fight. Socialist's from Stalin to Hitler made the same mistake. You would do well to remember that, pinko.
Evironmental hysteria.
Is there no end Insight?
Apparently SDA sucks at both engineering and reading comprehension, since I never even mentioned if I liked the Insight in my last post.
~Wilbert at May 19, 2009 1:28 PM
I resent your collective assessment of all posters at this site, Wilbert, you commie symp.
Did I mention engineering or suggest you liked the car which is the thread topic?
No.
Yet here I am a regular commenter at SDA.
I am leaving the military soon, if I grow a beard does that make me a moonbat?
Abraham Lincoln had a beard.
General William Tecumseh Sherman had a beard.
General Ulysses S. Grant had a beard.
Colonel Sanders had a beard.
Jesus had a beard.
Mark Twain had a beard.
Socrates had a beard.
It should be considered, however, that being bearded can cause discrimination against you.
It is more than just a fashion choice.
doowleb
Apparently my comment about education was unfair, here's someone who has achieved the prestigious B.S. in Mind Reading.
Oz:
I do like the car, you fascist. You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus.
Posted by: Wilbert at May 19, 2009 2:33 PMI do like the car, you fascist. You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus.
What exactly causes you to label me a fascist?
I'm not a collectivist like you, Wilbert.
I'm not an American, like Hubert Humphrey, who was a Democrat, so i couldn't have voted for him.
I am a Christian, not a Jew or a Roman.
Those are the people that killed Christ* long before I was born.
(although I do believe all sinners are responsible for Christ's* death as the Bible is clear he was born to die that way for that reason)
*assuming this is the Jesus to whom you refer
Oz,
I could be discriminated against? By whom or for what reason? My old man has a beard.. perhaps I should tell him to buy this new Honda.
I'll probably grow one against my own will, hard to shave when you're hiding out in the hills hah.
Posted by: Rick from AB at May 19, 2009 2:56 PMThat had to be the best auto review I've read in years, and I've read hundreds. "Smugmobile." Oh.my.dog. Was ever a more appropriate term coined? Probably not.
I was rooting for hydrogen myself given that GM spent years and millions on research in that area. Their engineers always indicated the obstacles were significant. But, power without reliance on dimwit despots is not going to be a cake walk. In the meantime, I'm sticking to large noisy V8s as long as they're available.
Posted by: Jingoistic Patriot at May 19, 2009 3:02 PMRick from AB, google beard + discrimination .
BTW I have a beard.
Greens will enjoy the car, the suffering will make them feel self rightous and superior. Look at me! Look what I do for the planet! I am atoning for the enviromental sins of my fellow man! Look how great I am!
Mark Twain had a beard?
http://www.mtwain.com/l_mtwainpictures.html
There goes my theory about "only buy cars built by companies that also build motorcycles". It would be helpful if Californica'd was declared a "hybrid only zone" and all registered moonbats there were given a six month window to get the PC transport of their choice.
Crabbing about how the CVT behaves in pool table flat England is a warning to everyone elsewhere. Cheap CVT's and lots of hill climbing engine power are not soul mates.
Not to be too cynical, but many years ago when fuel cells "were just around the corner as the power of choice for mass transport" someone at Honda let slip that they intended not only to lead that charge but become the go-to contract manufacturer of gas and diesel engines for the world during the bumps and gaps caused by fuel cells initially falling flat in various miscalculated applications. Nice work if you can get it.
Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at May 19, 2009 4:39 PMsounds like the car we are all going to drive if we don't do some damage to the assholes soon.
Posted by: old white guy at May 19, 2009 4:55 PMJust for you guys not to familiar with Jeremy Clarkson, the guy is a raging petrol head with a wicked sense of humour,(think the Mark Steyn of motor journalism) if you can get it watch him on the dhimmi BBC which he makes squirm but it is his program Topgear which earns them millions. His quotes and books are legend this side (UK)of the pond, however he does have his faults, well one anyway, he remains unconvinced by motorcycles, he professes that they scare him. Although he has had a go, and his two co-presenters on Topgear are both pro-motorcyles. And if prove where needed that he is worth reading, the lefties, greens, socialists, liberals, EU and all the other useful idiots hate him.
Posted by: DSV at May 19, 2009 6:17 PMDarnit! Now I have to go sit a dog on a ham slicer!!!
Posted by: OMMAG at May 19, 2009 9:32 PMWhat about diesels? More, along with Toyota's plug-in doubts:
Mark
Ottawa
DSV:
I agree Clarkson LOVES the supercars, I'm watching an episode with the Ford GT40 and BMW 5 series. He has such a biting wit with cars he despises (the Smart 4 seater comes to mind).
This show is the only reason I get BBC Canada, and I'm going to pick up the DVD's of the newer seasons that haven't aired here yet.
Posted by: mungman at May 19, 2009 10:53 PMI had a 1990 Pontiac (Suzuki) Firefly, turbocharged and intercooled. 1.0 litre engine, 0 to 60 in 7 seconds flat, could do 100 mph, 50+ mpg and a heater that would cook you in -40 degree temps. Only 70 horsepower. Best mileage recorded was 56 while driving through the Rogers Pass area of BC.
I also bought new a 1987 Pontiac Firebird 5.0L V-8. 250+ horespower and the last of the big ass Rochester 4 Bbl carbs. 150 mph, but if I kept it at an honest 60 mph I could pull off 40 mpg. Yes, FOURTY MILES PER GALLON! How? Very high gearing - at 60 mph the engine was only reving at about 1600 rmp. Best recorded mileage was 41 on a hot summer day in flat road northern Alberta.
My wife's 1988 Ford Mustang with a 2.5 litre 4 cyl. could barley produce 25 mpg.
Both cars were effectively 2 seaters as both back seats were all but useless unless aside from a cassette case and your jacket.
My motorhome (30 foot class C) is on a 2005 one ton 6.0 litre Chevy chassis and if I keep it under 95 km/h it will get me 14 to 15 mpg.
Pound for pound a smart car is very inefficeinet. You'd be way further ahead buying one of those stripped down Hyundai Accents being advertised now for $9995.00. 0% finacing too.
I bought a new Toyota Camry base model last year. The hybrid was just over $9000.00 more in price. Quick math told me I'd have to own the car for at least 7 or 8 years before I'd break even on the price difference.
That 'Smart' car is pretty dumb if you ask me, but like Prius (I prefer Pious) it makes thier owners 'feel good' about 'doing thier part' to save the earth. Whatever.
Posted by: Eskimo at May 20, 2009 12:08 AMBuy cars built by motorcycle manufacturers?
The list would include:
Honda,Suzuki,BMW,Triumph....who else?